#and i get the surface narrative

[hareofhrair]

I just got 100% of the achievements in Slay The Princess and I still don’t feel like I understand it.

#slay the princess #i understand its really fuckin good #and i get the surface narrative #but i keep trying to make sense of the underlying allegory and failing #which is just a good excuse to keep playing #even having 100% it im still seeing screenshots of stuff i missed

[shimmershy]

Buttercups and Golden Flowers

#i drew this mostly because i noticed that a lot of people mistake buttercups and golden flowers as being the same thing. #so i wanted to try drawing them like. distinctly different in the same image. #it's not a big thing but i do think the fact that they're different has some significance. or at least like. symbolic meaning. #my art #undertale #chara #chara dreemurr #safeutdr #something about the fact that they both look similar at least in color but one of them is poisonous. #the way golden flowers are clearly a positive symbol throughout the game and clearly heavily associated with Chara. #contrasted with the very negative connotations buttercups have. with asgore getting sick and chara using them in their plan. #you never see buttercups in the game. which makes it even easier to mistake the two. because we've only seen one kind of #golden/yellow flower. who's to say 'golden flowers' aren't just referring to buttercups? well. #why would there be golden flower tea if they were poisonous? why would chara want to see the golden flowers from their village if they're #the same kind of flower? they clearly have buttercups in the underground. #it feels almost intentional the way golden flowers are so easily mistaken for buttercups. or at least that the difference is so subtle. #it goes well with the way they're associated so strongly with chara who's also a very subtle yet important part of the narrative. #from a surface-level perspective the flowers that took their life and the one's they actually like/are important to them are the same thing #but when you pay closer attention to the narrative you can see the different symbolic meanings. #well. uhh I've thought about it too much don't mind me. #see i think about it from the perspective of chara being super adamant about them being two different flowers #and frustrated when anybody gets it wrong. because clearly. CLEARLY they're not the same. #'STOP confusing buttercups and golden flowers. i literally used buttercups to kill myself do you think i would still like them after that?' #'do you think i want to be associated with them? they're not the same!!' #<number one golden flower enjoyer number one buttercup hater. #i need a badge that says 'i have strong opinions about chara dreemurr because i kin them. i apologize for the wall of text' at this rate.

[hadesknockedupintheunderworld]

Okay, so a friend and I went back over a portion in the Season 3 trailer last night.

Because both of us (on separate days), after having watched the trailer a few times, essentially had the question: Is that green shatterspace portal actually Boscage Maze?

When I myself watched it I felt...idk...like the shade of green was different. And then my friend mentioned (after another look at it) that the color was more muted.

And then...we let our brains run.

Mind you, before the trailer or any summaries of the season came out, my friend and I were talking over discord. We'd decided that based on the evidence (Sonic's natural eminence of prism energy, whatever makes him special compared to Shadow, the fact he shattered the prism, etc) Sonic could theoretically have a deeper connection to the paradox prism due to the energy inside him. Then, they threw a what if in the air.

Essentially "I don't think they'll do it, but what if Sonic is the missing piece to the paradox prism. So they won't be able to complete the prism and do anything with it without risking killing Sonic"

To which I said "That would be so cool! And given that I've never believed Sonic's going to have to actually make a big choice between his old friends or his new friends existing—or at least that he'd never actually make that choice and would find a secret third choice—I think a Sonic's wellbeing versus everything he cares about makes sense. That has the potential to hurt the other characters, because if need be, Sonic would do it"

Needless to say we watched the trailer the first time and I was like "No way he was right. Like, it was a good thought, but none of us thought for sure that they'd do it"

Now, with that in mind. As I said, my friend and I decided to let our brains run after feeling that there was a difference between the green shatterspace in the trailer and the one for boscage maze. We couldn't shake the idea that the colors are different, nor the idea that the shape of the portal openings are different. And we've both seen people talking here about how it could be the last shatterspace open or something (boscage maze that is), but to me...that doesn't make sense. Without special context, it doesn't make sense why it would have to be Boscage Maze of all worlds that would be the last to collapse, or why taking Sonic to Boscage Maze of all shatterspaces could be enough to save him. Plus there are other voices talking in that scene. There are other people who would need to get to Boscage if it was truly the last, and if it's just to get Sonic to the closest shatterspace, the characters would have to be fighting in the in between space (between the shatterspaces). And my friend too, from looking at it, thinks that the green shatterspace in the trailer seems like it's farther out at the edges of the place between.

So, we rushed to the episodes to get a clear shot of the Boscage portal, and then a clear shot of the one in the trailer.

Now, turns out we were right about the color difference.

But it's the shape too.

If you've been looking in the main tag, I probably don't need to tell any of you that each portal (the part you enter to enter a shatterspace) is shaped like its prism shard. The first image is a shot of the Boscage Maze portal my friend screenshotted. The portal opening resembles the shape of the green shard, and the green is more vibrant than the more muted green in the trailer.

The shatterspace in the trailer is just...a completely different shape, both in portal opening and the crystals around it. If you need another angle of the Boscage Portal to compare to the crystals surrounding the portal in the trailer, here's another shot.

So, different green color. Different opening shape that would correspond to a prism we haven't seen before.

Let's return to the "Sonic contains the missing piece of the paradox prism and is essentially a living prism shard" theory, and let us also employ the idea that after the prism shattered and each shard landed in one of our alternate green hills, the shards gave off an outburst in energy that allowed the blue shard to fill the shatterspace with water, the green with dense forest, or the purple with mountains of crystal.

Now you're probably saying "But tumblr user hadesknockedupintheunderworld, what about the red shard? We saw a flashback. The red shard didn't just start growing buildings when it landed in what would become New Yolk"

And to that I'd say...you're right! We know based upon the Chaos Council's flashback that they used the prism shard as their energy source (whether they received it when conquering or after the fact), and that they themselves built New Yolk city without using the prism shard (after all, they only knew it as an energy source)

So, I say to you back. What if upon landing in a shatterspace, the shards were initially unstable. So they either caused a major change/addition to the world they landed in, or it's energy was properly harnessed and contained. That wouldn't be so far fetched, right? Because we know that Nine adapted the power core the council built to properly contain and channel the energy of the red shard to create his shatterdrive.

Now, the idea that the shards, while having shared powers, also have specific element based powers is not a new idea to this fandom. So let's run with this idea too, for funsies. If the blue shard corresponds more to weather (creating storms, lightning, flooding) and the green shard causes plants to grow (as examples), what, then, would Sonic be?

I'd say speed. Why? Well, besides the fact that that's Sonic's thing, let's backtrack to episode 1.

As of episodes 1 and 2, we know Sonic's body produces the same energy as the red shard. Before Nine crafted tech to attach to Sonic's clothes, the energy was not properly distributing to his body. Sonic would run and not be able to stop, he couldn't control his speed, and sometimes, he'd even start running without actually wanting or trying to run. In short, he could not control how fast he was going, how soon he could stop, or even when he would just start running. Even his shoes, which can canonically handle his usual speeds, had started to smoke after a while.

Couldn't you perhaps extrapolate from this that...Sonic became unstable upon entering New Yolk, his speed going haywire, and it was Nine's tech that properly contained and channeled Sonic's (he living shard's) prism energy?

And if Sonic is essentially a living prism shard...

Let's go back to the shatterspace from the trailer again.

A shard shape we've never seen before.

My friend and I got to this point and we thought:

"What if this is Sonic's shatterspace?"

As in, if each prism shard corresponds to a shatterspace, what if this is a secret 6th one that corresponds to Sonic?

Earlier I said that the ideas people brought up (without in season context) for how or why Shadow would speed to take Sonic to Boscage Maze wouldn't make sense. BUT

If there's a shatterspace out there affected by/created by Sonic's prism energy, it may not be a stretch for the writers (and our main characters) to conclude that getting Sonic there could keep him from disappearing.

Just...food for thought.

#sonic the hedgehog #sonic prime #sonic prime season 3 spoilers #sonic prime season three spoilers #sonic prime spoilers #sonic prime season 3 trailer #sonic prime season 3 trailer spoilers #i just be ramblin #essay time #So yeah my friend and I are calling it in advance that the shatterspace from the trailer is a new one that is specifically connected #to Sonic #I mostly just wanted to throw this idea out there #especially because I haven't seen anyone else say anything like this yet #so it’s more of an impromptu ''I must make this now before I forget!'' post #Honestly I'm really suspicious of the narrative the trailer is implying and I just...have this feeling that it's a misdirection on the #surface and we're missing smaller details (like how someone else pointed out that Nine is only shown to be in the Grim in the trailer‚ so #he's not actively trying to tear down the shatterverse or anything. Just get Sonic and fix the Grim.)

[kingworm]

'Heir of Persephone'

#zagreus #hades #hades game #persphone #zagreus hades #my art #illustration #fanart #i have this whole narrative in my head to explain an au of zag being persephones 'heir' and actually getting to be (partly) on the surface #with her #miles has heard me talk about it sm bc i only just started this game in dec #i think his time up there would give him more 'human' qualities hence skin tone #a strong healthy boy :) #who is short no matter the circumstances ❤️ #he cannot leave the cottage he will die lol #persephone au

[rawliverandgoronspice]

Are Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask, and Twilight Princess a trilogy?

Hmmm I think it's one of the potential ones? I always feel strange to leave Wind Waker out of the equation since I think the game is incredibly enriched in the context of the others (and vice-versa), but I suppose the pseudo-different timeline shenanigans do separate them pretty drastically?

Either way, to me it does feel like those three tell a pretty specific story that can be followed from beginning to end. The only character that somewhat gets lost in the sauce is OoT Zelda, who disappears quietly in the MM's flashback, never to be heard from again even though her role is pretty major in the setup to Twilight Princess (and Navi too, I suppose????)

The thematic arc we go through is also extremely interesting I think, if the three games are meant to tell a complete story!

We have a little boy forced to grow up too fast, ripped from a simple wondrous world he had control over to something much darker, revealing the cracks in what used to be comforting and simple --only to end the game thrown back in that very world now unfamiliar, unrecognizable and inherently fragile. Then we have Majora's Mask, which is *about* the most violent way possible to process that whole situation laid bare at its more frightening and overwhelming expression, but at least forces Link to reckon with these feelings and his sense of lost humanity; recovering himself and handling this trauma through enacting meaningful, small and personal connections (<3 this game!!!!). And then, we have Twilight Princess, which is basically a lot about the echoes of that previous thing, the long-lasting cultural/personal damage of both envy/greed/power obsession BUT ALSO injustice; and TP is among the best attempts the series ever had at sympathizing with the monstrous, as there's a huge throughline of moral values being something everybody has to reckon with and is capable of developing for themselves.

We start very black and white, that falls apart; we have to find meaning again in each other; everyone is accountable for and capable of doing the same.

Yeah, I think there's a lot to say about considering these three games a continuation of this very potent idea.

#asks #oot #ocarina of time #mm's #majora's mask #tp #twilight princess #thoughts #zelda #link #navi #thanks for the ask!!! #yeah these are really good games #even if on the surface the series is simple and accessible #DAMN it hits hard and well if you open yourself up to the fact there might be more #(which is why I always get >:((( when people downplay the narrative/thematic angle)

[my-current-obsession]

To be fair, the whole, “I’ll come back to you even if you don’t promise to wait,” is a line pulled directly from OG FFVII. It’s mentioned late game by Cid (who hilariously went to see a showing of loveless in Midgar but fell asleep then woke up just in time to view this ending scene 😂). But if you wanna deep dive on the meaning of this line, it’s worth noting that a version of the line is used in FFVIII in reference to the main ship of that installment — Rinoa and Squall — who also happen to be another mage/swordsman pair. And if you wanna go big brain square enix energy, there’s also the famous, “I’ll come back to you; I promise…I know you will,” between Sora and Kairi in Kingdom Hearts when he goes off on another journey while she awaits his return. If you go down those rabbit holes, it seems square really has a type for their main pairs, no?

I don't remember that line in OG FF7, but it's been years since I played it so I'll take your word for it. But you're right that similar lines/sentiments pop up frequently in other FF and KH games, so yeah, Square has a type. I still think the conversation between Cloud and Aerith in KH2 is the quickest and easiest parallel to make here though, considering the same pair can have basically the same interaction, in an entirely different game. Yes, Cloud could also have this conversation in the play with T or Y. But only Aerith's would have the added depth of being a potential callback/reference to another moment the pair shared.

And considering this game liked to callback to several moments between Cloud and Aerith in the previous game (him remembering their first meeting being what snaps him out of Sephiroth's control, the "will you be okay getting back", "if I said I wasn't" in the ending...) I think it's totally reasonable to assume that Square might have subtly referenced at least one Clerith moment from outside the compilation.

#clerith #final fantasy #final fantasy vii #i had to restrain myself from going on about how clearly aerith is meant to be rosa and she's absolutely the canon date #which. is true but is a bit of an unrelated tangent is this case and also i don't want to get dragged into ship wars #i'll just say that even beyond the surface level of rosa being a magic/staff user... there are lots of little things in aerith's favor #(specifically certain lines and physical gestures) #and those things add up. anyone paying attention (& knows the OG 7 plot) should know. it's OBVIOUS she's meant to be rosa #which is a huge contributing factor to why she's canon. just from a narrative perspective... #it makes WAY more sense to have the plot focus on aerith from just before the date (the battle square convo with dio. her writing NPTK)... #and STAY on her for the literal rest of the game... than it does to focus heavily on her before & after a sudden interlude with someone ELS #(hell and DURING. considering she ALWAYS sings after the play. and cloud ALWAYS gets a closeup looking enamored) #especially if half of that interlude - the play - has that someone else playing a role CLEARLY meant for aerith

[corfisers]

i really need to finish this one day

#one of my fave ideas but i keep getting stuck or starting over. third time's the charm hopefully #anyways. posting it as an excuse to rant because i'm losing my mind over this rn for no reason #incoherent but i just need to Talk or my brain won't shut up #you ever think about how fucked up it is that aoi feels guilty over what happened. i do. i think about her a lot #he can't even look at me. we aren't even blood related but he still had to go to jail because of me. i still love him #in reality none of it is her fault. it shouldn't be about doumeki in the first place. baby girl you were 15 when it happened. #you can say that yashiro is cruel in his dismissiveness (on the surface) of doumeki's trauma but you can see where he's coming from #you got a glimpse of what your sister was going through? of what i went through? and now you're sooo guilty over it? and who does it help? #doumeki's so focused on his own feelings that he ignored aoi when they were living together. “saves” her by pure chance #proceeds to focus on his guilt and ignore her again. if yashiro didn't get involved she'd be sitting in the rain for god knows how long #yet she still loves and to some degree idolizes him #yashiro and aoi both saying that doumeki isn't the type of person to be a yakuza too. doumeki's good doumeki's better than that #and then ch 24 happens. where yashiro says that he's going to throw up and doumeki's response is “i probably won't stop even if you do” #“guess i am like my father after all” and yashiro still goes “you're not. you're pure and im the problem” #(touches doumeki's face. rare gentle gesture. he's gentle afterwards too before leaving. man.) #he's not cruel enough to repeat what he said in the earlier conversation and he doesn't actually believe it anyway #but i wish yashiro was cruel there. it shouldn't have been about doumeki and his feelings. again. #something about yashiro throwing a knife at another person and it flying back at him huh #for all the talk about how doumeki supposedly romanticizes yashiro it really is the other way around. always has been #which is a whole other conversation but yeah. everything about aoi and yashiro in relation to doumeki makes me so fucking sad #but this is also what i mean when i say that aoi doesn't haunt the narrative per se but still has this weird presence? #she's in the parallels. she's in the brief but important mentions. she's in the “your sister was lucky she had you”. #wips tag

[danmeichael]

both ad lib lovers and the summer hikaru died to something really interesting wherein they take typical genre conventions and set-ups of BL and place them into a genre other than romance, while still portraying the romantic undertones. where the summer hikaru died does this with horror, ad lib lovers does this with comedy.

as opposed to hikaru's focus on horror, in ad lib lovers, jealousy, desire, and a fear of inadequacy and loving someone more than they love you is portrayed through the lens of improv. this accurately depicts that having a crush on someone as an adult is humiliating.

#not fandom #the summer hikaru died #sokuseki ad lib lovers #is it weird i could talk a lot about how well executed ad lib lovers is #like OF COURSE i can talk about the summer hikaru died and horror as an allegory for queer coming of age #but ad lib lovers seems significantly less narratively dense on the surface but is (in my opinion) so perfectly executed #the mix of diagetic and non-diagetic comedy is so fantastic and both are executed really well #it's also INCREDIBLY grounded in a way a lot of manga focused on comedy really aren't #oh my god stop talking this was supposed to be a joke post oH MY GOD #it truly feels like two guys trying to be funny. i believe that their act is funny in-universe #as well as finding the non-diagetic jokes that are for you the viewer really funny. #reframing common BL tropes for couples getting together as them getting their COMEDY DUO together #while also doing a really good job of developing a very sincere (if goofy) romance just outside the boundaries of the cliche works so well #i think there is a tendency to undervalue the effort that goes into making comedy work #comedy is seen as the lowest common denominator #but this is a manga that is just mechanically incredibly well executed on top of being really enjoyable #in my opinion idk #AND ANOTHER THING another thing these works share is societal. #horror and comedy are two places that queerness was historically allowed to exist in media mostly unquestioned #you are allowed to be queer if you're the butt of the joke #you're allowed to be queer if you're the monster. #in this way that makes them such a poetic canvas to explore a genuine and sincere love story between same-sex characters

[tibli]

it's bizarre to me how homestuck fans always talk about how like. you've got to go a little deeper than surface level to fully understand the characters and how they are. and then these same people will go on and on about how dirk is some uniquely terrible master manipulator and abuser. like. cmon man

#homestuck #dirk strider #dont misunderstand me he did do some questionable stuff #but a lot of his more troublesome behaviors are EXPLICITLY the result of miscommunication rather than just his actions alone #also his 'manipulation' is usually just uncomfortable at most. even including brobot bc jake wanted someone to spar w #sorry i just get annoyed bc people just like. have their minds clouded by bro's behavior #and seem to forget that the narrative makes it explicitly clear that dirk is very much not like that at all #outside of. again. a surface level interpretation based on his deeply negative perception of himself #im not including anything post canon in this btw bc they made him weirdly misogynistic for some reason

[vt-scribbles]

Something seriously lacking in my art is the ability to tell a story in a single illustration.

I've gotten so used to drawing my characters standing around doing random things that I've never practiced telling a full tale/putting implications into my pieces that require more thinking/looking.

It also comes from a lower amount of details in my works by default [since I like to get pieces done fast], but I'm tired of using that as an excuse.

#vent #kinda #sorry I'm just having a rough one tonight but I'll recover lmao #I think the AI art thing is really getting to me cuz like. #Anyone can make pretty images if they study and practice hard enough #[not to detract from people who don't tell stories with their images!] #but something in my brain wants to fight back because AI will never be able to Tell a Story through its images. #It can't make narrative choices through its regurgitation of random elements. It will never tell a cohesive and interesting tale through #detail choice #the worst it can do is create surface-level 'pretty' images by smashing together a bunch of mushed up information #but storytelling? that's human touch #that's intention. Thought. Choices. #and idk it's really bothering me lately that my images almost never... 'say' anything about a character. #this does not apply to anyone else's art I look at #it's just a standard I'm starting to feel my head apply to my own work and nobody else's. #which I'm taking as a sign that this is something I'm unsatisfied with #but the thought of starting to develop a completely new skill like that? terrifyingly daunting. #Sorry for the wall of tags I'm havin' some hella moodswings tonight #happens a lot when I get inspired by art I see #which I'm trying to work on but yaknow #it's a long process #anyways how's your night goin #I'm gonna cheer myself up by eating some amazing asparagus casserole

[narwhalandchill]

No way they had to actually nerf aventurines story boss fight 😭😭

#SPACE CAPITALIST FOUL LEGACY FACES THE FATE OF THE ORIGINAL 😭😭 #listen im the first one to call out how the omgggggg its hsr childe O___o shit with aven is just. dumb (& if anything hes hsr komaeda lmao) #but this is just so fucking funny 💀💀 poetic irony #(yap alert) n yes yes sure ik they do share some memeworthy similarities in the narrative roles they serve and some surface level aspects #such as. to stay on topic. the powered up form featured in a now-nerfed story fight threatens big population in attempt to draw out someone #thing. but as characters they rly couldnt be further apart. motivations and skillsets and worldviews and personality its . nothing lol. #like. they rhyme at times but thats not the same as rly being alike much at all and im tired of seeing it #but anuway yeah its. its so funny the boss fights for both got the fateful nerf i cannot believe this 💀💀 #i kind of get why tho like. aventurine had hands. i did double sustain jic and was fine bc fx blocked the CC enough but ya #hsr #hsr spoilers #2.1 spoilers #rambles #name a more iconic duo than me and not fucking keeping it curt and on topic in the tags

[fellhellion]

as a Rebecca enjoyer I would really like to see some options in book 4 digging into how little has changed if your detective is seeking or ambivalent to reconciliation, or the absence of apologies. As well as detectives who aren’t seeking/rejecting reconciliation but Rebecca cannot let go of anyways. Especially since we’ve now had one of the few times, according to the detective’s memory, Rebecca explicitly expressing regret for her actions.

#I kind of disagree w most people that the narrative is pushing you into forgiving her #kind of. #I think wayhaven’s writing style is intentionally pretty transparent to the reader on character motivations #even when they/the detective aren’t explicitly aware #there’s enough context clues to get an idea of what’s sitting underneath the surface #so I think the emphasis on Rebecca’s grief around her kid is more about telling the audience that her feelings on these matters ARE sincere #in nature. at least to how Rebecca interprets then #but what id enjoy seeing some more of in book 4 is the choice to pull open the conflicts happening here #Rebecca runs away AND engages w the detective irrespective of their wishes because she simultaneously cannot accept this relationship as #broken beyond repair AND is unable to acknowledge to herself the core issue to their relationship #the job was an obstacle yeah but the true conflict to their relationship is Rebecca’s avoidance w dealing w grief #and it results in what we see in either relationship state #I can’t let you go/I can’t believe it’s broken beyond repair <- can’t acknowledge what I chose to do #I can’t break down these walls/won’t spend time with you <- won’t acknowledge I ran away from you out of grief #and I think the next step narrative wise now that the tone to their relationship has gone through the big revalation arcs #is to start unpacking the WHYS #allow the detective to have those hard conversations and deal w whether Rebecca runs away from those or not #tunes talks wayhaven

[devotedlystrangewizard]

thinking gabriel thoughts (again)

#the guy who cut down minos without a second thought is the same guy who was the only angel to care about the ferrymen. fucking dies #his terminal entry literally says hes popular in heaven because of his radiant personality. he does nothing but insult v1 in 3-2 #get you a man who can do both #minos swears revenge on him while the ferryman literally worships him. #the skeleton in 1-4 who is worshipping him even after their life is long gone and the mural in 4-3 with traitor written over it #he looms over the narrative even when hes not there #he encourages even those in hell to Be Good and Have Faith but destroyed minos for trying to make a better life #different characters have extremely different views of him and all of them make sense! #heaven's specialest little boy can be hell's worst nightmare. as a treat #i also think about minos a lot by extension #i was just chilling on the wiki when i got hit with the 'he thought it unreasonable that people were punished for loving' and cried #like even as someone whos aroallo. it got to me! #it also raises the question of how much homosexuality is part of that. to me #is heaven ultrakill homophobic. discuss #i mean they do have Major bisexual lighting. in lust. #yeah sure theyre in hell hell is eternal punishment but he really was just. trying to make a peaceful existence #also the sisyphean insurrectionist lore fucked me up a little #ultrakill on the surface looks so simple but then you open up the wiki and its 'yeah the ferrymen tore their own flesh off their bones' #'king minos attempted to make a peaceful civilization in the lust layer and was killed for it but he lingered bc hes op' #'yeah actually the sisyphean insurrectionists are like that because the angels took away everything they didnt need for the punishment' #and you just have to live with that information now. you wont go back to blissful ignorance. you cant. #or thats just on me for taking lore too seriously. v1 doesnt care

[cosmicdreamgrl]

something i thought about after giffing the my time performance yesterday? the way everyone treats it like a thirst trap (ya'll think i don't see your tags when you reblog the set but i do) plays into the exact commentary it's trying to convey, and that's really sad tbh

#yes i think about this song a lot #i told you no one else loves it to their core as much as i do #i digress the point i'm trying to make is it's tragically interesting to see the subtext being proven right #is he hot af? yes i'm not blind as we all know #but i highkey dislike how people place such an emphasis on it #as if that's the only thing of note about him #the ick indeed #although in the case of this performance? the choreo/outfits play into the idea/persona the public has of him & also what's expected of him #the mots series much like the lys trilogy toys with the idea of perception (be it of yourself or through the eyes of others) #how in order to find peace you must accept how you see yourself and that you'll never be seen by people in the way you want to be seen #and this is such a brilliant addition to the larger narrative of the mots: 7 album #i repeat it's not suggestive at all in fact it's- yeah you get it if you get it #i guess i wish people understood that instead of just looking at it from a surface level #deep sigh #steph.text

[coffeeandcalligraphy]

something I find very intriguing about lonan & harrison is that in moth work/feeding habits, harrison thinks about/reflects on/worries about lonan SO much, and when he does, it’s constantly about the past, what they’ve already been to each other, etc (often romanticized). the same could be said in body back. this is kind of his fatal flaw!!! ON THE OTHER HAND lonan barely refers to harrison AT ALL in in MW/FH and now also in hallowed bodies, but when he does, it’s typically about their future together (which obviously doesn’t exist because they’re broken up). anywayyy very intriguing to me. 👀

#what could this MEAN #on the surface it’s that Harrison cares more and Lonan doesn’t care as much or at all #also a part of it is that when I wrote MW/FH Lonan was my favourite child & so his narrative took precedence (sorry harrison lmaooo) #BUT ALSOOO which is worse?? or is their a worse??? #Harrison’s line of thinking makes him resent Lonan even more than he ever did before #and makes him….. 24 karat harrison (a sin) #because he’s a really rigid person who can’t get out of his narrow world (especially when that world was 99% lonan) #on the other hand Lonan’s line of thinking isn’t as dramatic (sorry harrison lmaoooo) #but I don’t take it to mean that he doesn’t care at all but that he cares deeply in a different way #he really is focused on himself tho I will be honest hahahah #but I think that also speaks to him knowing he needs to get better WITHOUT constantly referring to Harrison as a crutch #now that I think of it I think the difference is: autism lol #Lonan ends up a much better person by the time we get to FH #I think it says a lot that he no longer needs to think about Harrison 24/7 for him to have gotten there #would that have been better for him??? idk!!!! #but the difference has always intrigued me!! #again some of it is my fault tho lol

[aq2003]

oh btw i get even more why brennan (like me) clocked sophomore year fabian as fucked up and sad even if some of the other pcs were like "what are you talking about dude" . it's because the basic core theses of fabian and leiland eftbk as characters are actually pretty similar

#AND matt mercer was like 'yes absolutely. my character has so many issues' meanwhile b4 lou could even say anything siobhan/adaine #went 'fabian isnt depressed his life rules.' #which like. 1) deeply incorrect statement. 2) fairly in character for adaine to say. 3) unfortunately this caused #a pretty big shift in tone w regards to how seriously fabian's arc ended up being executed #2.5) i could write a whole other post on how point 2 could be a super interesting thing to explore w adaine #she starts off so aware of there being no love from her parents towards her. so she sees love between a parent and a child #and cant conceptualize their relationship being ultimately harmful. like she learned long ago that there was no point seeking approval from #her parents meanwhile fabian made it his whole entire life's goal to do just that thing. both of them are fucked up in opposite directions. #crunchy concept yet very unexplored. and i'm not expecting this to happen in a potential s3 im just throwing ideas around like basebal #d20 #eftbk #fantasy high #sorry wrote all those tags then forgot to elaborate on how fabian and leiland are similar anyway it's this whole idea of #having this unhealthy dependency on the approval of someone you admire to the ends of the earth despite them being #fully and clearly a toxic influence on you. The whole illusion of inflated self worth howthat all crumbles when you Realize how fragile you #whole entire worldview was. and THEN you have an embarrassing breakdown in front of ur friends #and this is SO terrifying because you have really tried your best to look really cool and put-together in front of them #it's the 'getting knocked down SO hard and having to build yourself up by recognizing the love from your friends #+finding something completely different from the person you hinged your entire being on in order to find your way to the surface' of it all #also galfast/whitclaw are surprisingly similar narrative wise it's so funny to me. th storytelling series of nat 1s against an op enemy </3 #i think it WAS easier to execute leiland's character arc in the way it was bc a) he was played to be so CLEARLY insecure from minute 1 #and b) it is very easy to condemn ripoff sauron and say 'yeah this guy sucked and we're glad that leiland and maggie are free from him' #meanwhile for fabian. a) he has convinced himself that nothing is wrong with him even though there so clearly is #and b) you have to acknowledge that bill loved his son so deeply yet was such a bad influence on him #it's such a bittersweet-bitter complexity and i imagine it would be super hard to pull off esp when bill and fabian's dynamic is #played as fairly comedic most of the time. in this vein of 'this evil guy is so evil but he cares about his son this hard and it's funny' #and also just the fact this kind of bitter complicated parent-child dynamic is very rarely portrayed and pulled off well. #WHY the fuck are these tags so long if you read all this i'm so sorry