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#and I'm seeing it now with J*ncy
brekker-by-brekkerr · 2 years
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I hate Jancy and now the Chrissy and Jason ship (idk their ship name, maybe its Jissy) because the fans always prioritize the boys' feelings over the girls'. At least with Stancy and Eddissy, the shippers value the boy and girl equally.
Oh goodness I didn't even realise people were shipping Chrissy and Jason that's...wow. I completely agree. Recently I've started noticing a pattern with all the ships I find unhealthy-the male character is really the one benefiting from the relationship. Fans of these relationships generally don't care if the situation is crappy for the female, they're more concerned with the feelings of their male fav and will often twist the way they view and talk about the female character until she fits into that relationship. Of course not every single fan may be doing this, but it seems to be a large group. And when you consider who the female characters are in these ships at their core, you realise that these ships suck for that character and don't make sense for them, so even if people think they're not only focusing on the feelings of the guy in the relationship, they kind of are by neglecting who these female characters really are.
And it's interesting how the majority of fans of healthier ships discuss the way both characters benefit in the relationship and care about the feelings of both characters. Very interesting.
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gayofthefae · 3 months
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No bc it's the fact that I WASN'T that invested in Byler during vol 1 actually I got invested in between volumes so really the entire time I wasn't like "ooh another clue!" I started believing they were gonna be endgame - to the extent that I assumed it was the intention to be obvious and I was just behind only to find out that people didn't think it was as obvious as the St*ncy flirting was and was baffled - I literally was passively confident so I wasn't like noting down the proof at all I was super focused on Lucas and Max tbh and Byler was also cute, right?
So what I'm saying is that I realized in 4x02 then had no reaction basically, except empathy, of course, but no surprise, when Mike couldn't tell El he loved her even though they had not yet had issues when I started believing in Byler and I did not bat my eye when Mike talked to and looked at Will like that or all the other moments we've found obvious.
I am one of the many shippers that joined in season 4 after it BECAME obvious and then was like "you guys didn't see it??" I saw it and then analyzed how we got there for fun is what I think many antis don't understand. I didn't need the details to know. It was obvious to me, I just like to nerd out on filmography.
So point being it was always obvious. I never even thought of anything up until after the ily speech as "proof", or rather after volume 1 when I saw that there were apparently doubters I had to defend against, because I didn't NEED proof.
I went "Oooh he can't tell El he loves her I woonder why" in the same way I went "Oooh Max called Lucas' name in the upside down and her memories were a lot of him". Like I could have been wrong about them getting back together, technically, but it's the natural prediction one makes based on context. Byler was the natural prediction I made based on context. Just like L*max getting back together. Just like J*pper getting together. Could I have been wrong? Yes. Was I? No.
I just- I cannot emphasize enough how passively confident I was in Byler before logging on. I am now actively confident and with loads of proof, but honestly I feel like the biggest comfort and best argument to people who aren't invested like that is that once I realized - realized, not "believed" - that Mike would reciprocate Will's feelings, I forgot about it as a concern, relaxed, and just watched the show like anything else. If they got together I wouldn't have been like "told you!" because I didn't think anyone would miss it beyond the point I did any more than they would miss the other canon couple predictions I brought up - some people would, sure, but that many? Jesus.
Really, volume 2 just revealed to me that it was supposed to be more of a twist in season 5. It subverted my expectations of the Duffers' intentions for audience perception, not my expectations for the plot. I thought that everyone misinterpreted what they were obviously telling us but volume 2 revealed to me that I suppose we were purposefully divided. Doesn't change the outcome. The only surprise was the delivery.
Two times I had the thought "why are they doing this?" in the season. When Mike and Will fought in the roller rink and when Mike told El he loved her. Guess which plot became heavily backed up the more new episodes I watched and guess which one contradicted.
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kittykat940 · 5 months
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see thats what worries me tho. i dont think jopper or jancy were written well. even lumax, they all follow the "attraction at first sight" bull we keep on critisizing mileven for
imagine the duffers are just weirdo reddit dude bros ill cry
I don't think j*ncy or j*pper have that though they built a friendship first and the duffers have said they do not believe love at first sight I think we have enough evidence for byler endgame a lot of people hate milkvan now after s4 and I think that was the duffers intention and a lot of people love byler again the duffers intention anon if you are that worried I suggest looking at byler proof videos listen to people talk about that as a matter of fact i have the perfect person you can watch @cloudycleric go watch his videos he's amazing ❤️ much love anon I hope you're doubt goes away soon I'm also posting videos on here check them out!
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hazmatazz · 1 year
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ok i just want to ramble about what i want for byler kiss (and before it too) (also censoring all the other ship names just in case)
so first i want s5 to either be posted slowly, maybe by a week basis? or a vol 1 & 2 situation. i love suspense and i also want to see everyone's episode reactions instead of the whole season (also i can't binge </3)
saw a post where the op wanted the most awful tension between byler the wholeee time before the kiss and that would combine well with breaking up the episodes :) suspense and suffering <3
now byler confession? sorry i want that shit to be soft, quiet, and not at all rushed. just to really drive home how different byler and m*lven are. because mike's ily monolog? loud, ugly, awwwwwfuuulll. he only did it because he thought he needed to because she was like dying.
but my byler confession? no pressure. maybe the only pressure being "oh i want to tell will before the world possibly ends" or somethin but not because he feels like he has to y'know?
and YEAH i do want mike to confess first. but i also want it to be like obvious to will that "hey...maybe mike does return my feelings :/?" just because i love when will can read mike and also i don't want to deal with will being like completely shocked
(best ideas are like mike showing will the art binder? will seeing how much mike smiles with him/acts differently to him? mike talking about how awkward m*lven was? just! mike telling will how important he is to him)
anyways after the confession it's a soft, hesitant kiss (just wait) but oh no jonathan interrupts (sorry it would be so funny) so nothing further then.
now they're put in situations where they can't talk about it or do anything. it's obvious they're getting antsy about eachother. throwing obvious little glaces and smiles. either weirdly distant (to avoid suspension) or weirdly close (gay)
when they're finally alone? cue the fucking j*ncy/j*pper make out scene. obviously. i'm a sucker for that shit and they just need it after being apart for so long. like don't even talk before hand they're so impatient (been waiting YEARS anyways)
maybe afterwards or between these points you could shove in a little lettergate or will explaining the painting or whatever whatever. just hngg. needed to babble nonsense about it. so excited for s5 <3<3
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kurokoros · 1 year
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I know you wanted bitchy ST anons yesterday but your recent St/ncy reblog kinda inspired me, I hope that's okay.
Idk the thing about St/ncy that irritates me the most is that those who ship it blame the end of that relationship on Steve. And now that he has changed, it's fine and dandy. First of all Nancy isn't a price but also why is Steve the one to change and not her, when she was the reason why it didn't work in the first place? Like you said even in s1, we could see her actively pining after Jonathan while being with Steve. He was always the second choice to her, she even admits that to Jonathan in s2. St/ncy shippers want Steve to be happy, then why do you ship him with the girl who cheated on him? Just because he still has feelings for her doesn't mean she would be good for him.
Also the whole Steve being a bad boyfriend is simply not true, idc how hard the Duffers want to promote this point. People say Steve never listened to Nancy and didn't take her trauma seriously, but when they come with "proof" it's the scene where he says no to her trying to break the NDA. How is he dismissive by trying to keep her safe? In general Steve dismissing crazy ideas in the show isn't him being an ass or him not caring for that person, it's the opposite because those ideas would backfire in the real world. Like in s4 people really said see Steve is against Nancy's plan again, that means he's horrible to her. Imo Nancy (and the majority of the party) need someone who keeps them in check and not blindly following every move they make (aka Jonathan/J/ncy). [But Nancy doesn't really want that because she hates being challenged] Or Steve saying to Nancy her vision isn't real that Vecna wanted to scare her, people say he was so heartless while I interpreted it as him trying to reassure her that it wasn't real, that Vecna scared Max the same way, but I digress.
Back to s2 when he was a bit annoyed with them going to the Hollands, which was used as further proof to say he was the worst. Imagine sitting across the parents of the girl who is missing, but you know she died in your pool? And that for every week for a year. If Nancy's allowed to have trauma, why can't Steve? Also he's emotionally intelligent, he knows how hard it is for both Nancy and Barb's parents. Trying to make it better, by making like jokes at the dinner or telling Nancy it's not good and they might stop isn't him dismissing Nancy. Plus in the end, he was going with her regardless. Steve was the only one really trying in that relationship, while Nancy was eying Jonathan for a year.
Also tbh we know she blamed herself and Steve for Barb's death, if that topic would come up she would definitely let him know that, if not directly than more subconsciously. Steve isn't stupid and tbh if I were to discuss my trauma from facing a literal monster with my girlfriend while she also blames me vor the death of her bff, I would too pretend everything is fine. That's why he wasn't as phased by her accusation about Barb because he knew it somehow. Like Nancy isn't a sensitive person when she dislikes or has problems with something/someone she let's that person know somehow.
To sum it up, Stancy never worked from the beginning because Nancy never loved Steve and only stayed with him because it was a safe choice and she didn't want to be alone while waiting for the guy she actually wanted. It will never work too because Nancy would have to actively choose Steve first, which was never the case and I honestly don't see her do it in the future.
Oh boy! I'm always up for bitchy anons!
St/ncy as a ship is very weird to me, because I'm not sure who exactly is shipping it. Because the Nancy stans don't seem to like Steve and think he was the reason their relationship fell apart, and I don't know why Steve stans would want him to get back together with the ex who cheated on him with the guy he thought she cheated on him with a year prior (and boy it sure is ironic that Steve's biggest asshole moment in S1 is a result of him thinking Nancy cheated on him with Jonathan, only to have her actually cheat on him with Jonathan in S2). Is st/ncy just the het equivalent of st/ddie and harrin/rove where it makes zero sense canonically but people want the hot (white) characters to kiss? Who is st/ncy for?
Steve being a bad boyfriend has no basis in canon aside from Steve calling himself a bad boyfriend and Nancy not saying anything to disagree. As far as we know, Steve drives Nancy to school. Goes with her to visit Barb's parents for dinner every week. And I can only assume they actually talked about things between seasons. As for Steve not being supportive, I, frankly, think less people should be supportive of Nancy's poorly thought out plans. Like, in S2 I hate the j/ncy plotline because it never should have worked. Owens should have found the recorder, and, if they weren't wrapped up in plot armor, Nancy and Jonathan probably should have been found dead after a fabricated car accident or something. S2 Steve isn't unsupportive of Nancy's asperations, he's unsupportive of her half-baker revenge fantasies that could get people killed.
As for Steve being annoyed about visiting the Hollands... I'm actually on his side in that instance, based on personal experience. When I was a senior in high school, a girl in the grade below me (who I didn't know personally, but did know of) was unexpectedly killed in a car accident. The next day after the news broke, there were a lot of people mourning, and it was an extremely awkward situation to be on the outside of. Because I didn't know her, but I was surrounded by people who did, who were upset, and as empathetic as people try to be, there's still a massive degree of separation between you and people grieving someone you didn't know. In ST, Steve didn't really know Barb. He didn't know Barb's parents prior to her death. So once every week he goes to have dinner with his girlfriend and his girlfriend's dead best friend's parents, and he's the only one not grieving, or maybe he thinks he doesn't have a right to grieve. It's not a fun position to be in. It's not a position anyone wants to be in.
And it's probably an argument Steve and Nancy had a few times. Like, Nancy says Steve doesn't have to go with, but if he doesn't is that something she holds against him? idk there are factors there that it would have been really cool to see the show play around with via flashbacks to the gap year.
Anyway! I fully agree that st/ncy has never worked as a functional couple, and bringing it back romantically in S4 never should have happened unless it was to actually make the two of them talk about what happened in S2 (or to have the Upside Down being stuck in 1983 have a meaning).
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Stranger things incorrect quote generator (Ronance Duo, Fruity Four + Max and Dustin and a surprise kinda?.. Idk lol)
Pt 5
Ronance Duo
Robin: Are you sure Nancy's even gay? They barely even looked at me.
(She is, she just doesn't want to be distracted by staring at you or smth)
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Nancy: I'm gonna get my pilot's license. I've already got a driver's license and a cosmetology license, that's two of the big five licenses.
Robin: The big five licenses?
Nancy: Driver's license, cosmetology license, pilot's license, fishing license, and… license to kill! I can't wait to get that one.
(I feel like she would have all of them for some reason, also, let Nancy kill a man 😪)
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Robin: Look, I’m glad everyone’s on the same page.
Robin: But it’s the last page in a book titled “we’re all going to die”.
Nancy: That’s not even clever.
(wdym, that's the most genius thing I've ever heard)
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Robin: I made tea.
Nancy: I don't want tea.
Robin: I didn't make you tea. This is my tea.
Nancy: Then why did you tell me?
Robin: It's a conversation starter.
Nancy: It's a horrible conversation starter.
Robin: Oh, is it? We're conversing. Checkmate.
(checkmate indeed)
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Robin: Nancy, you love me, right?
Nancy: Normally I’d say yes without hesitation, but I feel like this is going somewhere I won’t like.
(¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
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Robin: Nancy is playing hard to get.
Robin: Little do they know, I'm a master at playing hard to get rid of.
(I love that incorrect quote so much, it's so funny to me)
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Robin: Hey, random question, what are your favorite flowers?
Nancy: Peonies, why?
Robin:
Nancy: Were you going to get me flowers?
Robin:
Nancy:
Robin: ᶦᵗ’ˢ ᵃ ᵖᵒˢˢᶦᵇᶦˡᶦᵗʸ
(I just imagine the last sentence in that Dustin voice when he was lying to the police about "a little might swim" or what he said)
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Nancy: Bro, I had a dream we fucked.
Robin: Bro, relax it was just a dream.
Nancy: Huh, gay, I wouldn’t fuck you.
Robin: You wouldn’t?
Nancy: I mean, unless you want to-
(She does 👀)
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Nancy: When you said 'Magic in Bed', I wasn't expecting this...
Robin: *pulls out card from deck* Now, was this your card?
Nancy: Holy moly-
(I want a Magician Robin AU)
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Robin: We’re getting married, bitches!
Nancy: And we're about to make it everybody else's problem.
(I wouldn't be a problem to me)
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[Nancy just realized smth big in one of her investigation while she was renting a movie at Family Video]
Nancy: I think I just figured something out. I got to go.
Robin: Aren't you forgetting something?
Nancy: Uuh...*hesitantly kisses Robin's forehead before running out.*
Robin: No, pay your bill! Damn, who raised you?
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Nancy: Did you know you remind me of all 26 letters of the alphabet?
Robin: What? Like J F K W S Q X-
Nancy: No, like, U R A Q T.
Robin: Awwww!
(They both are A Q T)
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Robin, to Nancy: I'll be under the mistletoe when you start feeling desperate!
(Christmas with Ronance)
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[Fruity Four]
Nancy: You ever see something that changes your life and you're just like "huh.."
Steve: I saw you.
Nancy: Honestly that's so cute and sweet but it kinda makes this awkward because I was gonna show you a picture of Robin in a turkey costume.
(sorry for the kinda st*ncy, but that with Robin is so funny)
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Eddie: What are you writing?
Nancy: The government wants to know what kind of weapons we have in the house. I'm letting them know it's private information.
Robin, looking over Nancy's shoulder: This just says 'fuck around and find out' in calligraphy.
(stupid government)
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Steve: Why is it that I always lose things as soon as I need them?
Robin: Actually, it's not that you lose things when you need them. You lose them a while before. It's just that you LOOK for things when you need them.
Steve: Okay yeah thanks Robin, that's great but WHERE'S THE FUCKING FIRST AID KIT?
(I never thought about that 🤔)
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Eddie: Hey Robin, have you seen the photographer?
Robin: Nope. Have you seen the meat tenderizer?
Eddie, confused: What?
Robin, grabbing the meat tenderizer out of the drawer: No reason, cute girl things!
(Yep just cute girl things 😇☺️, also is Jonathan the photographer? 👀)
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Robin: STOP!
*Everyone stops*
Robin: wAiT a MiNuTe-
(Fill my cup, put some liquor in it 🕺🕴️)
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Steve: You know what I’ve realized?
Eddie: Some thoughts are better left unsaid?
Steve: Nice try, anyways-
(I wonder what he realized)
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[Nancy when Steve told her about the dream with her having his 6 nuggets]
Nancy, to Steve: How do you tell someone politely you want to hit them with a brick?
(I'd also like to politely do that)
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Eddie: I hate how you're just born out of nowhere, and you're forced to go to school and get education so you can get a job. What if I wanted to be a duck? No one ever asked me if I want to be a duck!
(let Eddie be a cute fuzzy duck 😔)
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Robin: How did you break your leg?
Eddie: Do you see those porch stairs?
Robin: Yes.
Eddie: I didn't.
(Oof)
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Eddie: You need to be more careful!
Steve, who was dragged into Eddie's issue: Careful? CAREFUL?! I'LL CAREFULLY WRAP MY HANDS AROUND YOUR THROAT-
(that was them when they first met)
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Steve: *Gives a bouquet to Eddie*
Eddie: You know I'm allergic.
Steve: That's the point.
(They love each other very much)
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Steve: Do you want to be the Sun in my life?
Eddie: Yes.
Steve: Good, then stay 92,935,700 miles away from me :)
(that smiley makes it so much better😂)
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Eddie: Deep down, I'm sure I was always pretty okay with you.
Steve: Thanks, Eddie!
Eddie: It wasn't a compliment, numbnuts.
(I feel like that's Canon but also definitely not)
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Steve: I think it’s time I get my life in order.
Robin, narrating: But they did not get their life in order. In fact, they got drunk last night and fought a raccoon.
(he lost for sure)
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Robin: Honestly, I am so evil. So full of darkness. I feed of the souls of the living I strike fear into-
Eddie: You sleep with a teddybear.
Robin: He’s my sECOND IN COMMAND IN MY ARMY OF DARKNESS!
(This is basically King from the Owl house)
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Robin: If I may interject...
Steve: Oh, awesome, Robin was eavesdropping.
(Robin was probably literally standing next to him while he was talking to Nancy or Eddie or someone)
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Nancy: Keep it running. *Tosses keys over shoulder into empty parking lot.*
(😶 you good, Nance?)
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Robin: To everyone who has treated me poorly; I am sexier than you.
(She is)
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Nancy: I keep a picture of all of us in my wallet. Whenever I face difficulties, I take it out and stare at the picture.
The Squad: Awwww-
Nancy: And I tell myself "If I can deal with these idiots, then I can deal with anything."
The Squad: Oh.
(She had us at the first half)
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Nancy: Don’t worry, I know exactly what I’m doing. Everything is going to be fine!
Eddie: How can you still say that?
Nancy: Because sometimes, when things get tough, denial is all we have.
(✨Denial✨)
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Robin: I know every song to ever exist it doesn't matter if it's from the past, present or the future.
Steve: Oh yeah? Then continue this.
Steve: I don't cook I don't clean-
Robin: So let me tell you how I got this ring.
Robin & Steve: .....
Robin & Steve: GOBBLE ME, SWALLOW ME-
(I love their friendship so much)
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Eddie: Talk dirty to me, baby~
Steve: The dishes.
Eddie: Wh-
Steve: They’ve been there for 4 days and it’s your turn to wash them. You still haven’t cleaned them and I have asked you to do so several times.
(Canon, Canon, Canon)
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Robin: What are you getting Steve for the holidays?
Eddie: I don't know. It's kind of hard buying a gift for your partner when they already got everything they could've ever wanted when they married you. So I'm not sure yet.
Nancy: I'm getting Steve a divorce lawyer.
(I think Steve was talking about you when he said "he needs to get his ego checked" or smth)
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Nancy, talking to Steve: Well Steve, whenever I’m about to do something, I think ‘would Robin do that?’ and if they would, I do not do that thing.
Steve: …
Robin, from the distance: They’re not wrong though!
(I don't know what to say)
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Robin: What time is it?
Steve: I don’t know, pass me that saxaphone and we’ll find out
Steve: *BLASTS the saxaphone*
Nancy: WHO THE FUCK IS PLAYING THE SAXAPHONE AT TWO IN THE FUCKING MORNING
Steve: It’s 2 am
(Let her sleep 😪)
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Nancy: What should I do?
Eddie: *holds out hand* May I suggest dinner with a friend?
Nancy: Well, none of my friends are available, so I guess I'll have to go with you.
(Besties, also Eddie be like "You wound me, wheeler")
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Robin: Hey, Steve, are you free on Friday? Like around eight?
Steve: Yeah.
Robin: And you, Eddie?
Eddie: Umm... yes?
Robin: Great! Because I'm not. You two go out without me. Enjoy your date!
Eddie: Did they just-
(Yes she did, enjoy your date!)
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Robin: I am going to need you to swear-
Steve: Fuck.
Robin:
Robin: ...swear as in promise.
(I also love this incorrect quote lol)
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Eddie: And now for a gay update with Steve and Robin.
Robin: Getting gayer.
Eddie: Thank you, Robin.
(I feel like they do that to annoy Steve for some reason)
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Steve: I think you're still suffering the effects of your party last night.
Robin: All I drank was Redbull!
Steve: How many?
Robin: Eighteen.
(I feel like she would)
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[+Max and Dustin]
Nancy: So don't panic but one of us is possessed by an owl....
Steve: ....
Eddie: .....
Max: ......
Robin: ..Who?
Nancy: That's the thing we don't-
*Everyone stares at Robin*
(gasp)
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*Everyone is standing around the broken coffee maker*
Nancy: So. Who broke it? I'm not mad, I just wanna know.
Everyone:
Robin: ...I did. I broke it.
Nancy: No. No you didn't. Dustin?
Dustin: Don't look at me. Look at Eddie.
Eddie: What?! I didn't break it.
Dustin: Huh, that's weird. How'd you even know it was broken?
Eddie: Because it's sitting right in front of us and it's broken.
Dustin: Suspicious.
Eddie: No, it's not!
Max: If it matters, probably not, but Steve was the last one to use it.
Steve: Liar! I don't even drink that crap!
Max: Oh really? Then what were you doing by the coffee cart earlier?
Steve: I use the wooden stirrers to push back my cuticles. Everyone knows that, Max!
Robin: Okay let's not fight. I broke it. Let me pay for it, Nancy.
Nancy: No! Who broke it!?
Everyone:
Max: Nancy... Dustin's been awfully quiet.
Dustin: rEALLY?!
*Everyone starts arguing*
Nancy, being interviewed: I broke it. I burned my hand so I punched it.
Nancy: I predict 10 minutes from now they'll be at each other's throats with warpaint on their faces and a pig head on a stick.
Nancy:
Nancy: Good. It was getting a little chummy around here.
(Robin would be the one to take the blame, but only when it's Nancy tho)
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Dustin: LOWERCASE LETTERS ARE FOR THE LOWER CLASS!
Max: And here we have a capitalist.
Eddie: Did you just-
Robin: Let us all take a moment to appreciate that all of human history, human language, and the universe itself aligned to make this joke possible.
(takes a moment to appreciate etc.)
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Robin: I'm gonna need a human skull but you can't ask why.
Max: Only if you also don't ask why.
Max: *pulls four pristine human skulls out of their bag*
Robin: ...
Robin, grabbing a skull: This one will do.
(I'm not gonna question that... Just Mother-Daughter bonding)
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Robin: I'm never having a debate with Dustin again, they literally started their argument with "Riddle me this."
(I feel like Dustin actually said that in the show 🤔 idk tho)
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Dustin: A mosquito tried to bite me and I slapped it and killed it.
Dustin: And I started thinking.
Dustin: Like, it was just trying to get food.
Dustin: What if I went to the fridge and it just slammed the door shut and snapped my neck?
Robin: Are you ok?
(That's definitely a canon conversation)
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Steve: Yes, I'm adopting Dustin and you cowards can't tell me no!
(I loved when that happened in the show 🥺😔 such a precious moment)
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Steve: Have I ever told you that you cook well?
Dustin: Awww, no, you haven't!
Steve: So why do you keep cooking?
(Big oof)
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Max: Why should I make my bed, when I'm just gunna unmake it to sleep in it anyways?
Steve: Why should I feed you if your just gunna die anyways?
Max:
Max: I'll go make my bed-
(Steve stop being mean 😕)
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Robin: Where are your parents?
Max: What are parents?
Robin: That’s just about the saddest thing I ever heard get said.
(And that's how Max met her new Mother)
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Max, writing in their diary with a glitter gel pen: I'm losing my sense of humanity. Nothing matters. God is dead. There's blood on my hands.
(the pen is probably from a gift from El)
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Max: Sometimes I wonder if I’m hearing voices.
Max: Then I remember that’s the last bit of sanity I have trying to get me to fall asleep at a reasonable time.
(those two things (the one above) are what happened in between S3 and S4)
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Steve: Hey, do you know the password to Max’s computer?
Nancy: Fuck you, Steve.
Steve: Hey!!
Nancy: No, you misunderstood, the password is "fuckyouSteve".
Steve: Oh, no numbers? Not very safe.
(Lol, she did that after that "why should I make my bed" conversation)
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Robin: A pessimist sees a dark tunnel.
Eddie: An optimist sees light at the end of the tunnel.
Nancy: A realist sees a freight train.
Dustin: The train driver sees three idiots standing on the tracks.
(Dustin you smartass)
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Max: Do you think sex without love is a sin?
Nancy: If it is, I’ll see you in hell.
(Nancy is a lesbian confirmed 👍, not because she'd go to Hell)
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Eddie: Do you have a self-care routine?
Max: "Keep going bitch" said to myself in different accents.
(Robin taught her the accents)
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Robin: If you put a milkshake in one yard and crack open a cold one in another yard, which yard would the boys go to?
Nancy: Schrödinger's boys.
Max: FUCK!
Dustin: What about cracking open a cold milkshake?
Steve: As we all know, the milkshake brings the boys to the yard. The presence of the boys is a prerequisite for the cracking open of a cold one, but cold ones do not have any inherent boy-attracting abilities. Milkshakes, however, do.
Steve: All else being equal, the boys would proceed to the milkshake yard. While it is possible to announce the presence of cold ones in the hope of attracting some boys, the pull of the milkshake is much more powerful by comparison.
Robin: ...
Nancy: ...
Max: ...
Dustin: ...
Steve: Mind you, all of this nonsense hinges on whether or not the boys are back in town.
(Steve being 'smart')
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Eddie, to the Squad: I’d die for you.
Max: Then perish.
Robin: You will.
Nancy: Please don’t.
Steve: Cool.
Dustin: I’d die for you first.
(I'm sorry 🥺 it was just too perfect 😭 also it was from them first meeting so I think those would be accurate reactions, also Dustin 😭😭)
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[Surprise!! Robin and the Wheeler Girls]
Robin: *falls down the stairs*
Karen: Are you okay?
Holly: Stop falling down the stairs!
Nancy: How’d the ground taste?
(Karen is worried, Holly is annoyed that she keeps falling down the stairs, and Nancy is just used to it now and amused)
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Holly, talking about Robin: Is this a friend of yours, Nancy?
Nancy: Kind of? Not really. They're in my life and there's nothing I can do about it.
(^Nancy in denial)
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Nancy: Robin, what are you doing?
Robin: Making chocolate pudding.
Nancy: It's four in the morning, why are you making chocolate pudding?
Robin: Because I've lost control of my life.
Robin: Here's your pudding, Holly.
Holly: Oh that's okay, I'm not hungry anymore.
(that's cute and Robin would do anything for Holly, I love the fics with Robin & Holly bonding 🥺)
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Holly: I am darkness. I am an power. I am your worst nightmare. I could kill a man in more ways than you can imagine. I am the night. I am fury, I am a weapon, I am-
Karen: A doll.
Robin: A cinnamon roll.
Nancy: A sweetheart.
Holly:
Holly: ...stop it.
(That's the cute freaking thing I've ever seen 🥺)
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Nancy: Damn, the power went out.
Holly: Don’t worry, I got this.
Holly: *shakes rapidly and starts to light up*
Nancy: What-?
Holly: I swallowed a glow stick!
Nancy, on the verge of tears: WHY WOULD YOU-
(HOLLY NOO!! 😭)
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Nancy: *on the phone* Just snap his kneecaps and he’ll talk, I’m at a parent teacher conference.
Nancy: Anyways, you said Holly is enjoying finger painting! That's great.
(the teacher like 👁️👄👁️)
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Nancy: My life is a mess.
Karen: Nancy relax, go get a beer.
Nancy: I don’t want a beer.
Karen Who said it was for you?
(Lol)
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Holly: I don't know, it's not my cup of tea.
Karen: Well then whose is it?
Holly, staring at a cup of tea: I don't know!
(this was honestly unexpected 😂)
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[another Surprise?]
Argyle: If you water water, it grows.
Nancy: ...What.
Robin: They've got a point.
(so that's why Nancy said it last time)
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Jonathan: I never tell people off the bat that I'm gay. I wait. I wait until they say some homophobic shit and then I laugh and am like "you know I'm gay right?" and watch the look of terror on their face.
Nancy:
Nancy: I like you.
(wlw/mlm solidarity)
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Hope you liked it 👍, btw my posts are irregular, but rn have literally nothing to do for weeks so I may post a lot (also it's summer holidays)
Anyway, lots of love ✨🥺❤️✨
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I'm 99% confident that Byler will happen but when i look around me and realize that my irls do not even think of it as a possibility it makes me doubt. Do you also have moments like that?
I don't talk to anyone irl about Stranger Things, but I do have another online friend I talk to about it who is out of fandom. I've shown him a lot of the evidence, and he does agree that they should go with Byler as well, but he is also a lot more pessimistic than me and doesn't think it will happen. I do have days where I doubt myself, but those come fewer now after Vol 2.
I want to make a post on this at some point (maybe tomorrow perhaps or Monday depending on how things go) with examples, but I really don't think they would introduce this style of love triangle at the forefront if they aren't going to go through with Byler. A short rundown: there's two types of commonly used love triangles I've seen predominantly in media, one like the Steve/Nancy/Jonathan love triangle that started this season and one like the El/Mike/Will love triangle that was also forefronted this season. The Steve/Nancy/Jonathan love triangle will likely end in J*ncy because in the few love triangles I've seen that are like their season 4 love triangle, the person in the middle still remains with the person they were with originally when the love triangle started, and this kind of love triangle is one where both love interests have been given a full-blown romantic chance. The El/Mike/Will love triangle will likely end in Byler because only one side of the triangle has been given a full-blown romantic chance thus far, and this type of love triangle, in any film I've seen up to this point, ends with the person in the middle ending up with the person they haven't given a full-blown romantic chance to yet. This is how the first love triangle of Steve/Nancy/Jonathan also ended, with Nancy giving Jonathan a full-blown romantic chance when he hadn't been given one yet. Love triangles typically have a pattern like this in a narrative. I also don't think they would display Will's pain over his love for Mike like this if they weren't planning to make a satisfying conclusion where he ends up with Mike because A) they're not adding new characters so there would be no new love interest and B) displaying a character's pain so strongly serves a narrative purpose. One of the times I can think of this happening is the Bill/Bev/Ben love triangle in IT where, in Chapter Two, we're met with a flashback of Ben crying as he walks away from Bill and Bev who are talking in the field. Pennywise also tortures Ben when he shapeshifts into her, calling him names, and telling him Bev would never love him. But after all the pain Ben goes through, he ends up in a romantic relationship with Bev in the end. (Lmao that was basically a big chunk of my post already here, but I'll expand more on that at a later date)
So, I wouldn't doubt too much. Your irls likely either don't watch the show too closely or are blinded too much by heteronormative thinking. This is also where most of the bad takes from Reddit come from as well. Even face value tells us that Melvin at least is not working out because El doesn't need him (the script also says this very directly), the monologue did nothing (least of all save the world), and Mike can't give El the love she needs because he's treating her as a superhero rather than a person with powers (the contrast in Max treating her as just an ordinary girl with powers - "you have superpowers, what's the worst that could happen?" and the contrast as well with Will where he jokes about how El could use her powers to make them all super rich, but still including her as a person in their plans, whereas Mike continuously refers to her as a superhero or even Superman and displays feelings of inferiority). These are things that most audiences won't fully see on their first watch or two until they start digging into it. Just because you're digging, it doesn't mean it's not there. Paleontologists never would've found dinosaur bones by staring at the grass.
A good portion of the general audience by now has noticed a difference in Milkvan, but some of them tend to point fingers in the wrong direction - for example, blaming Finn's acting and saying he's a bad actor for not portraying Mike as being in love with El, rather than questioning Mike as a character and all his weird actions as of late. Another half of the audience does understand though that their relationship is breaking down. Sometimes things don't click for people initially or sometimes ever, and the ones that it never clicks for and they can never see the possibility of Megalodon not being endgame, are most of the time people who choose not to see it, and some of them will make up the most ridiculous excuses for it of all time. I've seen them. It could be any number of reasons why your irls don't see it, but the important thing is that you do and your media literacy is great. Sorry this got so long, lol. But thank you for reading, and good luck. <3
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I don't want to raise any false hopes/expectations but do you think there's the possibility they are just slow burning for Ronance? Robin obviously has a thing for Nancy, and I can't tell if she's still into Vickie or not. I don't see J*ncy lasting after Jonathan lied about his college apps, even if its not important. Nancy's smart, she'll find out eventually. Then there's St*ncy which I'm not even going to get into right now, but I'll be very mad if they decide to go in that direction.
Thanks for the ask. Those of you who follow me will know I'm a massive pessimist so I think deep down Ronance probably isn't going to happen... but I still have a smidge of hope. I'm mildly delusional about the ship and nothing can convince me that they aren't in love. They share bras, they hold hands, they have the world's most intense eye contact, they are clearly both girl kissers. I love them so much together that I literally have dreams in which they are canon and have big love confessions which I would turn into fanfic if I could creatively write. And I think narratively it could easily happen as a slow burn ship and it would be amazing.
Johnathan and Nancy are heading towards a break up at full speed so instead of having her fall into the arms of a dude who told her he has a dream of them having six kids despite the fact she has a boyfriend and doesn't want to be a typical suburban mom (look I love Steve and it was a funny haha moment about the mom meme, but that was weird writing), she should fall into the open arms of the world's coolest lesbian, one Robin Buckley.
However, they're really pushing this Johnathan and Steve love triangle annoyingly as well as the fact that Vickie exists to be Robin's love interest. At best, we'd get Robin having a crush on Nancy because of the way she acts around girls that she likes is the same as how she acts around Nancy. I really hope the Duffers get Natalia and Maya to write Ronance interactions because it would be so good and they both ship it but as Natalia said, the romantic tension was not the Duffers' original plan.
HOWEVER as I said, I really do see them together. Like the show could end with Steve and Nancy running away in their RV and having six kids together and Robin and Nancy would have some intense eye contact and I'd believe she loves Robin more. So whilst I don't have faith in the Duffers that they would actually write such a good slow burn queer ship, I still will always believe that they are girlfriends. And you all should too! I'm not trying to ruin the Ronance is canon parade because I really think it would work very well and be great sapphic rep, I'm just a huge pessimist.
Let's pray the Duffers make them canon for now! But even if they aren't, nothing can stop us from shipping them. I'm sorry if this isn't the response you were hoping for, anon. And if someone in the reblogs or replies has some Ronance optimism, please share it!
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shreya11111 · 2 years
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la cucaracha te da un ejercicio... por favor califica las naves de Stranger Things y el personaje de Stranger Things del 1 al 10. Y las estaciones. ¡Gracias!
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thank you for the exercise cockroach anon😍
so, i will just be doing st ships for now because i feel doing both ships and characters would make this post insanely long! i would appreciate if you could also send me another ask for the rating of the characters <3 (if not i’ll just make a separate post for it)
ok so, rating stranger things ships (shreya's edition):
St@ncy
Rating: 3/10
i really dislike this ship, mostly because i feel like it ended in season 2 with nancy being unable to say ily to steve (because she doesn't love him) and getting with jonathan instead. also, i just really want steve to not look for a girlfriend for five seconds and instead focus on his platonic ones. i don't like that the writers set-up this st@ncy/j@ncy thing in s4.
also there was no proper resolution of the relationship in season 2, plus i just think steve and nancy are on different pages and want different things for themselves (i really can't see nancy fitting into his "six little nuggets" story).
2. Midleven
Rating: -10/10
i'm sorry but i hate this ship so much. i don't think i've ever hated a ship as much as i hate midleven.
i could go on and on about why i don't think this ship works romantically, but essentially mike & el have no chemistry, have serious communication issues and just bring out the worst in each other.
midleven was extremely rushed in season 1, and majority of their scenes from that point on are extremely hard to sit through for me. i just think they would work so much better romantically. hopefully the breakup early on in season 5.
3. H@rringrove
Rating: -1000/10
why would you even ship this
4. Karen x b*lly
Rating: -50/10
ew
5. Willel
Rating: -10000000000/10
this should NOT in any case be a romantic ship. will is gay and he and el are basically siblings.
6. M@dwheeler
Rating: 0/10
i just don't understand why anyone would ship this romantically
7. St3ddie
Rating: 4/10
i think st3ddie is ok. i used to be a shipper before (mainly bc i liked the idea of their dynamic) but now i just don't see the point of shipping it. they had like three conversations onscreen or something. idc if you ship it and don't think it'll actually happen (i used to be like this) but if you're a really toxic shipper attacking bylers for no reason then pls go touch some grass.
8. Ronance
Rating: 9.5/10
ronance is amazing. it's like a breath of fresh air compared to the str8 nancy ships. i wish so much it would be canon but sadly i have high doubts about it :/ that doesn't mean i don't still enjoy it! nancy and robin balance each other so much <3
9. Elmax
Rating: 11/10
ELMAX HAS MY HEART!!!! gosh i love this ship SO MUCH it literally helped me survive the pre-season 4 drought oh my gosh. reading elmax/byler fics saved my life during that time omg.
max and el's dynamic in season 3 is INCREDIBLE. sooo much better than midleven. lumax wasn't amazing in season 3 so i much preferred elmax and it still remains one of my favorite ships of all time <3 (apart from byler)
10. Byler
Rating: ∞/10
literally the. best. ship. to. exist. ever. my favorite ship of all time. i’ve never loved a ship as much as i love byler.
mike and will have so much chemistry, and their relationship is an extreme slow burn that lasted THE WHOLE SHOW. they’ve also been friends since KINDERGARTEN so they have so much history together. they also just get each other and have shared interests. they can also just be themselves when they’re alone wit each other.
way superior that midleven sorry not sorry. literally 100x better. not to mention that it’s not a boring str8 ship like milkvan is.
11. Lumax
Rating: 10/10
amazing ship, phenomenal in fact. season 3 had me thinking otherwise, but season 4 completely changed my perception of this ship.
it’s so clear how much they love each other, and unlike midleven, they don’t have to actually SAY the words, “i love you” for us to know that.
i really really hope that max will be okay in season 5 :(
12. Jopper
Rating: 10/10
love them; don’t have any problem with them.
they’re really cute and i like the fact they started off as friends and it’s kind of a slow burn line byler is. season 4 was also really cute in regards to them and i love that they’re canon now. can’t wait for them to probably get married in season 5!
13. Boyce
Rating: 6.5/10
i mean, boyce was quite alright. i don’t have an inherent issue wit it, just that i don’t like it as much as i like jopper. bob was sweet to joyce and her kids tho, and it sucks that he died :(
14. J@rgyle
Rating: 6/10
personally, i don’t really have an opinion on this because i don’t think it’s going to happen but i mean, in hindsight, i think it would be pretty cute.
15. Duzie
Rating: 7.5/10
duzie is quite cute! i don’t have any problem with it. i like suzie and dustin both and they seems really adorable. i’d love for them to meet in season 5 in-person, and for her to meet the rest of the party. i think that would be neat.
16. St0nathan
Rating: 5/10
i don’t really know how to feel about this.
17. Murrlexei
Rating: 9/10
love them! they’re amazing. if you don’t ship them what are you even doing smh
18. M@stin
Rating: 0/10
why
19. Chr3ddie
Rating: 3.5/10
so apart from the whole age issue (which i’m not rly sure about tbh), chrissy and eddie literally only had like one PROPER interaction. sorry but even st3ddie had more screen time together. i feel like they would’ve been really nice friends OR would’ve been an okay romantic pairing IF a) there was no age issue (not sure if there rly is but yeah) AND b) they spent more time together just getting to know each other (and if chrissy didn’t die-)
20. Robin x Vickie
Rating: 6.5/10
i think they’re ok. i don’t really like how undeveloped vickie is as a character, and how similar they are (i would like some balance please), but otherwise idc if it ends up happening (which it seems like it will) and i think they are pretty cute together. i also just want robin to be happy so
21. Stobin
Rating: -∞/10
if you ship them romantically literally get away from me
so yeah, those were my ratings! thanks again, cockroach anon and i hope you have a great day!
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(Possible discourse but possible compliment and positivity?)
Im sending this in a different ask in case this isnt what you want to read right now, but i also want to say that your posts about st*ncy v j*ncy have made me realize that the reason i loved st*ncy was bc i loved steve, not bc i loved nancy, and bc i dont care for jonathan, and now i am appreciating j*ncy like i never have before so ty for making me see things in a very different light and giving me MORE reasons to love st ❤
Ahhhh I've accomplished a secret goal!!!! I mean, not REALLY, but ya know... I do have irrationally strong feelings about Nancy never having loved Steve and I just really want him to want better for himself, you know? I didn't think I had such strong feelings about either ship until S4 dropped and suddenly I found myself a Nancy-Jonathan warrior.
I get why there has been a sudden resurgence of support for the other ship though. Steve is a super popular character, and it's literally the only ship that has a canonical basis to happen going into the last season, so people just want him to be happy.
Confession: I thought the scene of Steve confessing his domestic dream life was actually lovely, in that he was always a directionless character who didn't seem to have any real passions or goals and now he finally had one. I thought it was a really strong character moment, Steve accepting that all he really wants is to be a malewife and dad.
For me, my ideal happy ending for Steve in S5 is for him to be in a happy relationship, hinting at him on track to fulfill his only real goal, but considering we've been told there won't be new characters added, it seems unlikely that's in the works, so I think him just chilling with his platonic soulmate Robin and her girlfriend Vickie is the happiest ending we'll get for him (unless I get my super unpopular wish and Kali comes to Hawkins wanting to help her sister and she and Steve fall in love, but even I'm not delusional enough to think there's a chance in hell of THAT happening).
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name-doggo · 2 years
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👀 if you want
The Only Canon ship (As of Now) I love is Lumax
I don't have Anything against J//pper or J//ncy (Censored so they don't show on their Tags), I just don't see the Appeal.
I do love the Family Bond El, Will, and Jonathan have, so I'm perfectly fine with J//pper Happening if it means they're Siblings. I would just make them Co-Parents if I were writing the show though.
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brekker-by-brekkerr · 22 days
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feeling soft about season 4 stancy tonight. i'm thinking about what it was like to be a stancy fan when the show began and then to watch j/ancy play out through the seasons and hate it and love stancy so much still and always stupidly hope for some way for stancy to come back to each other. i'm thinking about how if you tried to find stancy fics on ao3 they were all j/ncy fics with past stancy. how the tag on tumblr had tumbleweeds and finding anything stancy-related that, again, wasn't about past stancy, was rare.
and now, we have so much more stancy content because of season 4. so many more fans. the tumblr tag is full. ao3 has more fics. people talk about them daily and its been years since s4 came out. i spent so long thinking about how stancy could find each other again and to actually see it play out and see how many people it has made happy...it's just really special to me.
and to see nancy, my girl from day 1, have a storyline where she's not stuck with jonathan the whole time, where she's making friends and being a leader and the fans are showing her so much more love and respect, is everything.
so as much as seeing people hate on stancy hurts, and the shipping in this fandom (as in any fandom ofc) can make me want to scream, nothing can take away from the stancy content we now have. i'm just really grateful to be where we are now with the show, especially since everything we got from stancy last season is content i could have only dreamed for years ago but barely hoped to see.
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clarkegriffins · 2 years
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a lil stobin related parallel (kinda?) i noticed was steve comforting and going after robin when she saw vickie with her bf (now ex-bf thank goodness!) and robin comforting steve when he saw the j@ncy reunion. idk i just thought that was real sweet of how supportive both of them to each other, truly one of the BEST dynamics on the show and i'm so glad we got them <3
also steve's smile seeing robin and vickie interact was just so darn WHOLESOME, the way he's so happy for her PLATONIC SOULMATES INDEED🫂🫶🏽
it was def a parallel anon, (platonic) stobin is so important for me, they are so supportive and caring with each other, the way steve used to have toxic friends and robin probably didn’t have any at all, and they found each other it’s just so :’) it warms my heart, PROTECT THESE PLATONIC SOULMATES AT ALL COSTS
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icarianiscariot · 2 years
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stranger things, 1, 5, 7, 11, 17
LSKDJFLKJSDF HERE WE GOOOO
1. What originally drew me to it
my brother was watching it when s1 first dropped and i ended up seeing a couple episodes near the finale and was confused but intrigued so i sat down and watched it myself!
5. The character who gives me the greatest gender envy
hmmmmmm i mean probably steve or jon??
7. A character who feels like home
will 🥺 he's the heart of the show!! and he deserves to finally catch a fucking break 😭
11. A ship that makes me want to look into the camera like I’m on The Office
SLKDFJLKSDJFKJ m*leven and j*ncy (censored so this doesn't show up in search/tags, respectfully lmao). i don't like either of them as romantic ships. in s2 when j*ncy was going canon i was SOOOO disappointed!! idk i don't necessarily even want st*ncy to get together either but back in s1 i knew steve was getting more shit than he deserved (steve truther since day 1, love that he started getting actually involved and is now v easily probs the most beloved recurring character as far as i've seen ?? it's what he deserves!!) idk there was just something VERY yucky about how j*ncy got together to me, and the fact that by s4 it seems like the writers don't even like them either, like.......
as for m*leven it's just like. there's SO MUCH to unpack there. what was the point of eleven's "learning to be myself without mike" arc w max if they just retcon it to make her so dependent on him again? or just like. [gestures to s4] any of whatever the fuck happened there. in s1-2 i just thought it was the boring predictable het ship that the show would push, but atp i'm just like. god let them please break up and be friends????
17. The line of dialogue I quote most often
LSKDJFLKJSD i don't think i really ever quote this show much but will and mike's "crazy together" rotates in my brain every single time i think of this show <33333
(send me a tv show/movie/book/anime/fandom and some numbers from this list!)
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xstargaryenx · 6 years
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I'm ship Jancy but you kinda right about Jonathan being a creep and the way they got together. I mean I didn't see the point of Jonathan taking the pictures of Nancy and didn't even know why they put it in the plot. Also, If they did got together I don't want it to be in the way that Nancy just broke up with Steve. Idk, I actually don't ship it as much now after the way they got together. Also, opinions on stonathan?
Yeah idk just the whole picture thing made me not like Jonathan in the first place. Like why did they make him do that? And then he had them developed at the school too? Like what was he going to do with them and would he have just took them home like no big deal if he hadn’t been caught? I don’t remember him apologizing but him giving kind of a half-ass kind of one (if you can count it at all) but Nancy had to get him saying it wasn’t okay by bringing it up instead of him going up to her and formally apologizing like he should have. They way they got together was so messy. The journalist guy combined with Nancy still being with Steve as well as that everybody-telling-them-they-love-each-other-or-should-be-together trope which I feel can be weak a lot of the time. Idk it just didn’t sit right with me. Stonathan? Well, I kind of feel the same way about it as I do j*ncy. Soley because I’m not too fond of Jonathan so any ship with him, I’d probably pass on. Maybe if he wasn’t so loner-outcast-who-hates-everybody. I find those type of characters to be annoying more times than not but that's just me.
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brekker-by-brekkerr · 2 years
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Yeah I wasn't a fan on J*ncy but if that's what made Nancy happy then I'd be happy for her. I can try to like Jon*than even though I still hold the picture thing against him, but I blame the writers for that one. But to now see all these people turn against Steve it feels like that anon was right. They don't care about his happiness or what he wants they just want him their way and nothing else. The whole nightmare comment is annoying to me because the moment it's with someone they want him with Steve can have all the kids he wants. If they weren't lying about it I don't think it would bug me so much. They don't have to like the ship but dunking it for one ship but liking it and celebrating it for the others makes no sense.
Yes to all of this!! Stancy isn't an unhealthy relationship. People don't have to ship it, that's okay, not everybody is going to like/want the same things, but I'm tired of people searching for reasons to hate Stancy by tearing both characters apart for things that aren't even bad. And the way we know they wouldn't be reacting this way if these things were happening with other ships is annoying. Stancy is not this disgusting horrible ship that's ruining both characters and I'm so tired of people acting like it. Also the number of people who claim to be fans of these characters but then hate what makes them happy? It doesn't add up.
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