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late christmas drawing ,, was really torn between reposting this or not !! i feel like ive lost my edge n all but i liked how the faces turned out 🥲 its unrendered and unfinished in some places but my awesome moots convinced me 2 post it here !! so u have them to thank for … hehehej… i love them alot and have been writing sm drabbles of ambereve ..;
While the breakup was inevitable (especially if you read the comics), I think the show handled it phenomenally with it being even better than how it was done in the comics. Steven Yeun and Zazie Beetz absolutely killed it in this scene with you really being able to hear the heartbreak in both of their voices as Mark and Amber realize that for as much as they love each other, they can't make this relationship work. Then you have the "I can't live in your world, I want to, but I can't." which👏👏👏. That is some absolute peak writing. I haven't consumed many stories that actually treat the breakup as a heartbreaking moment for both characters involved since it's usually just treated as a minor obstacle to prevent the main romance from happening sooner. While I'm fine with that in some cases, I feel like it's a disservice when the main character's temporary love interest is a genuinely interesting and fun character who has a good rapport with them. In that same regard, it has been a nice change of pace to see characters who do care for each other attempt to make things work and talk about the issues before accepting that what they have just isn't going to work.
It's also a good commentary on the nature of superhero/civilian relationships since while someone like Debbie was able to handle the stress of it, Amber isn't able to do so. And that doesn't make her weak or a pushover, it makes her human because not everyone is built to handle that kind of life and it's totally understandable.
The way they did Amber and Mark's breakup was so much more heartbreaking than what happened in the comics and I love it.
The two of them talking to eachother about how they're feeling—instead of Mark doing all the talking and Amber agreeing without any extra input—was nice to see and gave Amber more depth as a character. I also loved that the emphasis is put on their failing relationship actively hurting them, instead of the problem being that they'd enjoy another relationship more. It makes the scene feel more emotional instead of just being an obstacle the story needed to overcome to get to Mark and Eve being together. (In the comics Eve shows up literally 2 issues after the breakup and goes "So we're dating now right?" It's very obvious that they just needed to get Amber out of the way.)
No matter how hard they try it'll never work, and that fact deeply upsets them, as well as the viewer. I feel so bad for them, but this is ultimately the best outcome for them.
I feel like a lot of people miss the larger discussion the show is having about superheroes in relationships, specifically with regular people, and reduce things to a ship war of who is better for Mark and who he should end up with, for whatever reasons you don't like Amber or Eve.
But if you've noticed, especially with episode 3, regular people being in relationships with superheroes generally don't go too well, in this world Kirkman has created. Olga with Red Rush, the man at the support group who was with Green Ghost, even Debbie & Nolan to an extent. Those relationships, and the problems they talk about, are foreshadowing, a preview of what's most likely next for Mark & Amber.
There is an equal possibility that they could work through these issues and have good long relationship (like Superman & Lois), they don't have to end badly. But they will end, sooner or later, and that's where Eve eventually comes in. Kirkman puts Mark & Eve (Superman & Wonder Woman for the comparison) together for a reason. There's a specific thematic purpose behind them, particularly pertaining to the question of "What would you have after 500 years?" As the story goes on and the years pass, this theme becomes clearer. It's just at the moment, the time scope of the show feels very now and present but if they intend to adapt the entire story, it will encompass a very long time. And then, well, it's not too hard to put it together.
twitter comic discourse is so braindead like wdym you would prefer amber dying over anissa?? a literal rapist.. versus an inexperienced teenage girl.... ok. got it.
I appreciate the nuance that the writers are taking with Mark and Amber's relationship. Mark is upset that he has to keep leaving Amber because he does want to be there for her. And while Amber understands why Mark has to leave since what he does is important, it's leading to her feeling ignored since someone that she loves isn't for her often. She won't ever tell Mark to prioritize their relationship over saving people, but that doesn't mean she can't feel neglected. Many superhero stories will have a hero in a relationship with a civilian and sometimes it does work out (heck, even Debbie and Nolan made it work). But Invincible showcases the flip side of it by exploring how much strain it can cause on a relationship and how some people handle it better than others. I do love this relationship and it's clear that they want to make it work, but neither fully understood just how hard this would be.
The pause to make sure, the communication, voicing out preferences, setting the mood, following said preferences, and being safe (both with powers and the condom). You guys don't know how proud I am of them-