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#also I can’t imagine Joseph driving tbh
quentinbecks · 3 years
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✌️ Charlie & Joseph
lol thank you for indulging me in this one 💜💜
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cullxtheherd · 3 years
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Long(-ish) time listener, first-time caller here - just wanted to say that I really love your take on Jacob, and that your taste in music is A+! Also, I come offering a few songs that I think have big Jacob vibes - "Unsainted" by Slipknot, "The Heresy" by Mushroomhead, and "Feed the Machine" by Nickelback (just trust me).
hglkghjl oh my god hi!!! how are you?? first of all thank you what the heck skjhdndkf you are absolutely too nice sjdhsdjskdf but i am glad you enjoy my stupid shit™
and i am gonna dive into these songs rn.
yes but i would like to counter with this slipknot tune [x] and also this one cause i kinda forgot about them and now im scREam? [x] GLLHKGLLHBKGLHKGLKL
holy shit yeah i love mushroomhead but it's been yEARS since i properly listened to them- like?? since you had to buy the dvd to see the music videos cauce mf TV would not play them skjdskjsk i did not even know they had new content out?? tbh ksjfkdfjdkj?? but alsoo [x] and [x] anddd its taking me aGES to answer this cause im on a trip through songs of my younger years and like THANK you!!!! i am having so much fun skjfdkdjf
oh. my god okay. it's. it is. it. has taken everything in me to type nickelback into my youtube search bar. i'm really over here like:
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hgkhlgkhlghll okay but i AM listening here i go pray for me...
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okay. here's the thing. if chad fucking kroeger wasn't singing this i would really like this- the guitar solo is a little extra, but i've also listened to dragonforce and completed that shit on guitar hero0 jAYSUS CHRiST- anyways! i?????????????????? am going to have a lil quick jacob inspired music romp, join me if you like!
5 bands/artists, 5 songs below the cut!! but, FIRST!!
a warning: these first three groups will be triggering and offensive in many/multiple ways! please be prepared!!
𝙺𝙾Я𝙽:
Never Never: [x] - this is particularly nice™ if you follow my he was married timeline;
Shoots And Ladders: [x] - this pertains to childhood sexual abuse i haven't even had the stomach to write about yet for the Seed boys and it's not part of my timeline currently, but. it is definitely part of my headcanons and there is not enough brain bleach for me to ever live the same ever again 🙃
All In The Family [x] - i do not think this needs any explanation but i ammmm hahahahhahahahhksjud imagining john and jake hghg;glghlhglhgljhgl
It's On! [x] - i really forgot how much i miss early 00s/late 90s rock aaand wow so much of it it very The Seeds��
Coming Undone [x] - wow how hot was jon davis kdjskjdks i mean he still is but hewlp senmdddd shheelpppshdaslkf
𝐍𝐈𝐍𝐄 𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐇 𝐍𝐀𝐈𝐋𝐒:
The Becoming [x] - yeah 😢 it really do be like that. if you've never heard this before it can be a little... jarring, unsettling and/or painful to listen to, especially if you aren't in a good or positive headspace. there are a lot of sudden and loud mechanical/industrial type of noises as well a running background track of people screaming out in pain so... enjoy. that.... i actually?? really love this song and the entire album. it describes the fight with mental illness well in my opinion.
Mr Self Destruct [x] - it's perfect. would also very much work for Joseph but i do think this is just verrrryyy, sickeningly Jacob
I Do Not Want This [x] - this is another that is just not good if you aren't in the headspace for it
Big Man With A Gun [x] - this is just. explicit. and rude. and accurate. you're welcome.
Eraser [x] - don't listen to this if you're feeling low or not well mentally. definitely a deputy ship song.
bonus cause i can't follow rules even of my OWN making and i could go on for an embarassingly LONG time about NIN in relation to any one of my muses and sjkdnksdfns here you go:
The Perfect Drug [x] - this is a great song for any seed/deputy ship tbh but kdjkfdjfsnkfndhbf this a whole ass mf ass jacob seed ass mood and i am yelling out loud and my dogs are barking and all my cats ran awAY AaaaAaa
𝑺𝒚𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒎 𝑶𝒇 𝑨 𝑫𝒐𝒘𝒏:
Violent Pornography [x] - this song makes me laugh out loud to be honest?? i am not? a sane individual
Cigaro [x] - LMAOOAHAHHAHAHSJABSDKAS UBISOFT SHOULD HAVE HIRED ME FOR THE WHITETAILS RADIO SOUNDTRACK BYEE HHHAJKDnsaf
Suite-Pee [x] - sorry but this is apparently just funny meme time now im hahjdgsfkjddgf
War? [x] - accurate meme hour continues
I-E-A-I-A-I-O [x] - glhfmlkfgmlkdfg i'mm ghlghklgkhl the absolute mutterings of a ginger madman trapped between two mountains
𝓛𝓸𝓻𝓭 𝓗𝓾𝓻𝓸𝓷:
The Ghost On The Shore [x] - fricken love this song and this group
Drops In The Lake [x] - pooor ol widower. i've been toying with a universe where his wife is still clinging to life, mostly burnt and nearly dead in that old veteran's center and hahahaha this doesn't hurt at all 🥴
Long Lost [x] - this is fine. not imagining my otp. nope.
The World Ender [x] - 🤠🗡
Yawning Grave [x] - this is also a lucifer jam as fuck
𝕰𝖑𝖑𝖎𝖔𝖙 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘:
Silver + Gold [x] - super good ship song for character arcs; dep ship or not
Closedloop [x] - 𝒊𝒕'𝒅 𝒃𝒆 𝒃𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒆𝒓 𝒊𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒍𝒅 𝒘𝒐𝒖𝒍𝒅 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒔𝒍𝒐𝒘 𝒅𝒐𝒘𝒏 . . .
I Heard [x] - what a fuckin jam. also wow how cute is elliot?? ? wow
99 [x] - i dont have anything to say its just so accurate and so good
Without The Lights [x] - this is a very accurate interpretation of a physically and sexually abusive relationship through dance, please use caution! but this is going to be accurate for any canon type relationship with jacob or maybe even all of the seeds. personally i refuse to write any strictly non-consensual material, but i am fully aware this is more than likely something that happens. having been in similar relationships in the past this video goes on repeat a lot and i can't even begin to say how beautiful it is- i cry every single time.
"𝓬𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓸𝓯𝓯 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓭𝓸𝓰𝓼 𝔀𝓮 𝓯𝓸𝓾𝓷𝓭 𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓲𝓷 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓸𝓭𝓼 . . ."
hoLY COW if you made it this far you deserve something dont u... hmnnn. i'm sure i have something somewhere on a hard drive
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that should do sjdkjfkd ok i love youu thank you for sending me this ask akjnsfdskf i hope u are having a great day!! bye!!
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Suicide au: even in the best case scenario I don't think Heathcliff would ever fully recover. What kept him going for most of his life was revenge and he doesn't have that anymore, so there's no real drive. if he has ANY it's Hareton but then that is not so much. On the upside he's not socially experimenting with children, and on the downside he's not doing anything.
I’m putting all the suicide au asks into one to answer so I don’t spam my followers and so there aren’t a bunch of triggery posts. Bold is me, normal is Kira Heathcliff being this mentally ill is likely to just shut down and not do anything
do you think a partial redemption is possible in the suicide au that needs a better name? I think so but then I always think that...
Not really, I think that in this AU the suggestion is that there is a lack of motivation and a self hatred but not necessarily a regret and in order to be redeemed I think you have to be willing to attempt to make amends. It’s what differs Heathcliff from say Darcy. Mr Darcy is a dick but he does everything in his power to right the wrongs he did.
Oh poor Hareton would be a wreck if he found him. If he's dead- well, yeah. Basically what you said already. What if he's not? Also what would Cathy or Joseph do?
Hareton would not cope. He’s only like 16 and he’s probably mentally a lot younger and this is a man he worships. Joseph would probably just spit hellfire. Cathy would be torn between her hatred for him and her sense of humanity.
There's a lot of "let him kill himself" from Cathy and she and Hareton have a proper screaming match over it. It would be one thing if it was at the house but it happens in the village and it starts in very coded language and ends with everyone in fifty feet of them knowing the details of what exactly happened. No one thought it was possible for them to be cast out more than they already were but surprise! The only way they could get even more isolated involves pitchforks and torches
Oh god yes. Neither Cathy nor Hareton can hold back much when it comes to Heathcliff. They are both very passionate in different directions.
Okay so, let's say Heathcliff fails. You think he shuts down after that? Like just gives up completely, on everything? I imagine Hareton would be really clingy after that, to Catherine's annoyance, but she might tolerate it for a time if Heathcliff is completely shut down bc bc he's not hurting anyone anymore, except maybe Hareton 
I definitely think Heathclif would shit down. Cathy would hate Hareton becoming clingy to him, she would definitely tr and tell him that he doesnt owe Heathcliff anything and that Heathcliff has in fact treated him like shit and now is a great time to get away
Okay so I think a lot about the asylum thing would depend on whether the reformation had reached them yet. There's no way Nelly and/or Hareton because I'm unsure of who would be in charge of this would put anyone in what was basically jail, but I think that between Heathcliff being obviously mentally unwell and him just not caring anymore, a lot of the power of the estate or whatever is shifting to Hareton.
The power would likely be with Hareton but he would give it to Nelly, he wouldn’t feel that he could deal with it.
Alright idea: Cathy wants to start a Heathcliff free family with Hareton. Hareton is not gonna leave Heathcliff's side until he's sure he won't kill himself. Cathy figures that, excluding murder, the only way to get her goal is get Heathcliff better. Cathy starts volunteering to sit with him instead of Nelly. She starts off basically ordering him to get better, then starts screaming at him, then finally sighs and says alright why did you try to kill yourself because talking's her only other idea
She asks him that but she has no patience either, she won’t hear his sob story, she won’t let him paint himself as a victim and she agrees with him when he puts himself down.
Getting Heathcliff to talk is hard though. She realizes quick she's gotta start slow with him, and she hates small talk, so she talks to him about Hareton and that gets some response. Not much but some. So they keep going and Cathy is approaching this very clinically until Hareton says something about how he's glad they're finally bonding and she flips. Hareton is a little disheartened but he's still daydreaming about a picture perfect family and he's gonna make sure he gets it
Cathy is not bonding, she still hates him with a vengeance she just loves Hareton more than she hates him and she sort of screams that when flipping
Hareton is at least temporarily in charge and he makes Joseph caretaker of the Grange because he and Cathy don't get along. That is the only thing he does. It makes him feel giddy with power. Cathy suggests he get REALLY crazy and move a chair from one corner to another but he says no let's not get ridiculous
Oh Hareton darling :L
Nelly wonders why she's not happier. Don't they get the happy ending she's been praying for? Isn't Heathcliff suffering for his crimes? Why is she so sad?
Nelly has a weird set of feelings towards Heathcliff but at the end of the day she can’t completely give up of him.
After a month, while Hareton's working, Cathy declares she and Heathcliff are going for a walk and drags him along. Catherine has been cooped up and so has he honestly and Cathy finally stops walking when they reach her favorite tree, and they sit down and she asks him again and not too gently why he tried killing himself. He doesn't answer. She pulls out a paper and says if he answers he can visit her children once. He says letters aren't legally binding. She says that's not stopped him before
Hearthcliff is surprised that he cares about visiting her children, he doesn’t really but he sort of does.
He looks at the paper for a long time and says he can't tell her something he doesn't know. She sighs dramatically and can't help thinking that a) he seemed to genuinely want that and b) he didn't just make up something. She decides she needs a different question and asks him if her mother was really an angel who did no wrong (a question she knows the answer to, deep down.) He smirks and says that he loved her, and she was vibrant, and she was a lot like her, but doesn't answer the question If Heathcliff were to talk shit about Cathy1, Cathy2 would probably flip because all she’s heard is a very rose-tinted story of Cathy1′s perfection from Edgar.
Hareton has a always been a little tough starved tbh. He was so happy when Cathy started casually touching him (not in a weird way in a chill way) and he's started to get a little bolder in general. He hugs Nelly now, which started awkwardly but she loves it, and he's sleeping in Heathcliff's bed, just to be sure nothing happens it's not because he can cuddle him not at all. Idk if Heathcliff is keeping his thoughts to himself or if he's so out of it he hardly notices
Heathcliff is barely aware of him being there (also this is like a reverse Patrick and Branwell situation)
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twilight-deviant · 7 years
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honeybunchesofkittens replied to your post “crystallized-atlantic replied to your post “Oh god. Okay. It’s almost...”
honestly your theory >>> their 'twist'. Like super lame twist. Did this feel like a weird episode to you too?? Like a lot of odd added moments but then whole sequences of events not included? Like Lucy vs Fiancee but then totally skipping the team FINALLY working together. We didn't even get a moment of them all in the car?? It just skips ahead to Lucy and Wyatt visiting her grandfather??? I was SO thrown.
Thank you. I agree. My theory is better. Hahahaha. jk. I'm not kidding. The powers that be have spoken though, and I guess... we just... have to live with it? That was the big twist they decided to give us. Even though I'm already poking holes in it. 
May I be honest? May I say something maybe a little negative? 
Forgive me, Timeless, but none of the recent episodes have been very good. They've had great and important scenes and plot points, but have, overall, felt a little off for one reason or another. I think the last really good one was 1.12. Following that, the feel of the episodes, and the show, changed a bit. Though 1.14 was pretty good, pretty standard Timeless. But the wrong parts have had too much focus and the right parts are brushed over too quickly, like you said. Maybe it’s because they started focusing on the characters too much instead of the history and how they affect it and it affects them. Don’t get me wrong, I think characters should ALWAYS be the number one priority. Characters > Plot any day. But maybe Timeless needs that balance of history to feel right.
And like you said! That awkward cut near the end? It's legitimately like they left a scene out. Did my tv skip? The Lifeboat takes off, Flynn and Lucy speak with Ethan, and then it cuts to Lucy walking in the door with Wyatt? I think you left out a few steps there, guys. Too much implicit. Not enough explicit. Where’s Flynn driving the car with Lucy in the passenger seat when they drop Ethan back off at that club where his car was? Where’s Flynn buckling Lucy into her seat in the Mothership? I want to see the interior of the fricking Mothership already! Where's the part where the Mothership lands in Flynn's base that he doesn't even change after Lucy sees it, trusting that she won’t send people after him? Where’s Flynn pressing one last time how much faith he’s putting in her? Then Lucy meets back up with Wyatt and Rufus, and we don't even get the "See, Flynn didn't hurt me and he let me go" moment. After they made us sit and groan through that stupid long lingering look before Wyatt would get in the Lifeboat? No dismissal of his unnecessary concern that Flynn would kidnap her or harm her? You can’t spend precious time making the boys worry over leaving Lucy with Flynn and then not even show the relief when she walked in perfectly free and unharmed. They blew 53 seconds on that goodbye that could have gone somewhere else, and we didn’t even get the payoff of her being right about putting her trust in Flynn and going with him? Nope, didn't get any of that. I mean, thank goodness I have decent perception and imagination. Granted, it is all sort of superfluous, ya know. It’s so implied that we don’t really need it. But the cut there was so awkward that they probably should have left something in the middle, any one of those steps. Because Wyatt walked in after Lucy and I was like wtf?
The finale, in my opinion, tried to squeeze way too much in, and the editing didn't help. Maybe it should have been a two-hour-long episode. Maybe they should have put more from it into 1.15, which was sort of a filler episode, tbh. I know they like to separate each episode and concentrate on one specific time/event, but there was a lot from 1.15 that could have been cut. There was a lot from 1.16 that should have been expanded on.
I mean, they titled the episode "The Red Scare," but they focused more on gay rights in the 50s than anything to do with Russia and spies and the witch hunts therein. Which is a GREAT matter to focus on, don't get me wrong. Timeless has long addressed the injustice to women and black people in the past and how far we've come since. Homosexuality is something they have also needed to confront. So good job finally finding a way to make that relevant. And in such a personal and tragic way, talking about Ethan's struggle. But it's not relevant enough to an episode where they also wanted to squeeze in fear of Russia. Timeless has spoken before about the almost forgotten fear of the Cold War. In both 1.04 and 1.08, Flynn tried to help the Russians win. This was a chance to finally cash in on some of that setup and pretend it had all been culminating towards one big (if minor) plot. But we just had too many other things to focus on. So the threat of Joseph McCarthy thinking they were spies was brief and inconsequential. If anything, it just took time away from more important matters. And we never even touched on the threat of Russia itself. The inclusion of this historical event was definitely over reaching. Look, if you don’t have time for it, you don’t have time for it. That’s okay. The episode was just so all over the place trying to cram so much in. I think we could have just dropped this whole historical event and saved it for a day when we could give it the appropriate attention.
And you mentioned Noah, so I’ll just comment on Noah real quick. He deserved better? This pure cinnamon roll, too good for this world. His scene was way too brief and squeezed in there. Like they felt they had to address his storyline since they were using him, but they also had to wrap it up in two minutes. Use him, break his heart, make him cry, kick him out. He’s been in four episodes now. He’s a very minor character, but a character all the same. Don’t just wrap up his storyline like you’re checking off boxes before the finale. Precious baby. And don’t use his confrontation with Lucy to bring it back around and push the Wyatt/Lucy agenda. Ugh. Once again, if you don’t have the time to properly address this plot, just let it lie. We’ll come back to it in season two, but if we don’t get a season two, I’ll remember it as it was: hanging out there with possibility.
Sorry, yeah. I ranted a little. But the pacing and the editing in this episode was... shoddy. 
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