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Decided to do another deep dive playthrough and take massive amounts of notes (and screenshots) to store as references for the fics.
It's not that I forgot how much I love this game. No. I guess maybe the reasons are what got pushed aside.
This is definitely one of the rare games that I wish I could play for the first time again.
It was this cutscene that sealed the deal for me when I played it the first time. I found myself mesmerized by Joseph in my first and second playthroughs. The Henbane is my least favorite region, for multiple reasons, but The Father's appearances make it better for me.
I'm glad I decided to do this. Reminding myself why I wanted to write about these boys in the first place. 🖤
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brownald · 4 months
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Bitches be like “How are you killing me in my psychedelic drug sequence😫😩🥺😫😩🥺😫???”
Not my fault you let me bring a .50 cal into your psychedelic drug sequence now is it?
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fc6 · 2 years
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the path to eden is clear to those who have faith.
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pink-power-armor · 2 years
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Stickers by ApricitasArt on Etsy.
Map of Hope County came with the game guide.
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darkri97 · 2 years
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Far Cry 5
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the-satellite · 14 days
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Ok I've harpes on Faith's writing a bit but. God dude they just threw WHATEVER at the wall for Henbane in general. The Bliss is so much nonsense. Cool nonsense, but it feels so violently out of place after fighting John who is exclusively physically violent with his own damn hands and Jacob who at least uses the excuse of classical conditioning and psychological torture. Faith is just MAGIC MISSILE MAGIC MISSILE I AM FLOATING WELCOME TO MY LITERAL MAGIC REALM THAT I MADE OUT OF A DOWNER HALLUCINIGEN SOMEHOW.
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missbiddle · 1 year
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me, knowing it’s gonna take longer than three weeks and at the very least months to renew/transfer warrior nun: but why haven’t they renewed warrior nun yet hmmm
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Far Cry 5 BlissResistant!Deputy scenario
Just giving my own two cents on this popular scenario.
This kind of deputy is just the Peggies worst case scenario come true.
Imagine being so dependent on the success of a drug that is used for almost everything (Bliss bullets and arrows as sedatives, Bliss used in the Cleansings, Confessions, likely Jacob's conditioning, creating work labour (e.g. the Angels), giving strength to VIPs and making the most stubborn Resistance fighter susceptible to Eden's Gate manipulations like showing them visions or just twisting words in a way that makes sense) with a confidence that it will never fail only for this one deputy, who is fighting against them (either violently or with a little violence but no intention to kill the person, up to you), to not be affected by it at all.
That must be mind-boggling.
Even more so for the Seeds, because this just adds to the challenge.
The issue John and Jacob would have to face is the fact that they need to capture the Deputy through other means, since Bliss bullets don't work and Bliss arrows only hurt. Then there's the fact Confession and Jacob's conditioning will take a bit longer with the Deputy given their immunity to the Bliss inconveniencing how easy it was for them to get their jobs done. Faith though? God poor Faith, her product is just entirely useless against the Deputy, and she can't interact with them as much as her brothers can either.
Joseph would take it as a divine message from the Voice and solidify his belief in the Prophecy.
Then there's the Deputy wondering what hell these darts are supposed to do to them, why the arrows are only aimed at their non-fatal parts and still allowing them to (at least attempt to) get away, why everyone's freaking out in the Henbane River, not really knowing Faith Seed that well beyond what everyone's tole them and what they've scene while completely sober, why their allies are walking towards what is obviously a wild animal, and why these priestesses seem completely shocked that the Bliss hadn't "worked" despite the fact blowing powder in their face (and eyes) leaves the Deputy vulnerable and completely inconvenienced ("what do you mean it "didn't work"? I am in agony from the fairy dust in my eyes, what else is supposed to happen?!"). Then the Resistance and Deputy eventually realise along with Eden's Gate that the Deputy is just immune to the Bliss drug effects (but not the "my eyes feel like their on fire because you blew dust in my face" effects).
How does this sudden immunity occur. I've come up with three scenarios:
Joseph unintentionally without any meaning to cause any harm did/said something that mildly made the Voice upset, and it had a tantrum about it and so decided to give this one person immunity to the Bliss just to torment Joseph more without giving an actual in depth thought on how that effects its plans.
The Deputy is just that 0.1% chance of people who happens to be immune to the Bliss and happens to be the person to arrest Joseph by chance, with the Voice itself not even realising this person could have been immune to Bliss.
The Bliss itself is a part of an eldritch hivemind that Faith and Joseph (both unaware of this information) have some level of control over (very aware of the control they have over the "drug"), and it's kind of upset at the Peggies (who are utilising, malforming and bending it to their will) and the Resistance (for burning it and experimenting on it in finding a cure), but it just thinks the Deputy is pretty neat (in this scenario, the Deputy doesn't do anything that is outright hostile to the Bliss itself), so it leaves them be (just going to add this here and say that maybe, the Bliss eventually grants the Deputy permission to have some level of control over it because it trusts them, but of course you can ignore this little addition if you want).
Anyway, what's all of your opinions on this popular scenario?
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dearingsxx · 9 months
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I need the father in my life
I adore Faith so much and it sucks that she had to die ,i wish they mentioned her somehow in New Dawn.
I should play far cry 5 again.
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takitori67 · 1 year
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Long ago I dreamed of Arjuna hugging me
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thespokentruth28 · 1 year
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Someone asked a writer if Faith was fully a victim, plied with drugs and forced into Eden's Gate. The writer said that Faith twists the truth to her advantage. So while she isn't lying, she is not telling the full truth. I don't think the original poster was saying faith was not a victim, I think they were pointing out how she is a manipulator. She lies to your character and tries to manipulate them with bits of the truth, and when she doesn't get what she wants... I just think all the villains in fc5 are very complex, cannot be limited to 'they are victims, nothing else'. Since we don't know most people who knew Faith before the cult, I take Tracey's words pretty seriously when she talks about Faith, considering she is the only one the writers focused on giving insight into Faith's personality.
Hi, I hope you like a long and detailed answer so feel free to skim. ;)
- Yeah i know about all this this but it doesn't really contradict to anything i think. it It is not only this line from her in the fight at all that creates this whole victim complex to Faith but all kinds of things, lore and environmental storytelling in the world. That Joseph didn't forcefully shovelled drugs down her throat or that she wasn't directly forced into the cult doesn't mean she isn't a victim and doesn't mean that she wasn't "plied with drugs" manipulated and "threatened" to be kept in line when she was already in it and possibly started to doubt what she was getting into.
Dean explained that there is always truth to what Faith says, but she is also good at turning the truth to her advantage - it is basically just him saying "i can't tell you that, you have to decide and determine yourself"... I mean it is not like this reveals anything we didn't knew about her and nothing definite... It is basically just "up to your own interpretation" but i think there is more than enough evidence in the game, Book of Joseph, and now especially and explicitly the collapse DLC that makes it easy to put two and two together that there is clearly a lot more to Faith than just being this "manipulator" and that her supposed "manipulation" ultimately is a result of her being manipulated and brainwashed herself.
In the Book of Joseph it is directly stated in his fancy ways that she was given drugs(scopolamine which is inspiration for bliss) to purify her and keep her in line and from doubt so it is only backed up there aswell. Again that it wasn't forced down her throat doesn't mean it was actually willingly or that she wasn't manipulated against her own judgement - i think the scene in the Edens Gate short is a perfect example to that. Nobody touches or forces Sarah in any way but she is clearly manipulated in every way and isn't really given the chance or choice to refuse or to leave the room neither so yeah that is a perfect example to how it can happen at the very start...
- I know about everything Tracey says aswell and what she says also lines up well everytime she provides some actual source information about Rachel. It is also worth noting that Tracey clearly is in grief for what happened even after all this time and feels guilty because she was the one who found Edens Gate at first where Rachel "slipped away from her". She outright states that her vulnerability, too good and trusting personality is what got her into it and that she didn't realized what she was actually getting into...
She explains that Rachel was this naive minded, keeping the peace girl who was always too nice, always agreeing, unable to resist or realize when a fight needed to happen which clearly says that Rachel isn't any way a strong willed person to speak up for herself and clearly confirms her as a naive minded person susceptible to manipulation which is also reasonable to conclude considering her past. It makes completely sense to the victimized arc she is given and backs up that she is not this self motivated manipulator in reality and in the end clearly supports that she was turned and groomed into what she is rather than purposely becoming it. It clearly supports the indications that she is more manipulated and brainwashed herself rather than being this evil "liar and manipulator" as we are tempted to believe based on what we are told by the resistance which is also completely one sided and biased aswell... It further hints that her childlike innocence, her naive faith and general sweet personality she express in the game most of the time is not her acting but who she actually really is - it isn't her "acting sweet" or faking anything but simply her doing the only thing she knows and have been indoctrinated into believing since a young age.
- That Faith got into this with Tracey and "choose to play daddy's little flower princess" when she was at her lowest and the cult were just a little peace group dosent in any way mean that she wasn't later on victimized, gaslighted and brainwashed to keep her in line when she realized and doubted the tests and things she saw on the inside. That they found and she got into this group willingly(as a kid mind you) isn't in any way a contradiction to her obvious victimization later on at all based on many implications in the game. She never says that she was actually forced or kidnapped into this cult in any way not in far cry 5 nor in the DLC... However that doesn't contradict to anything in terms of her being taken advantage of especially later on when she started to doubt and realize stuff which is also possibly here the actual more clear "unwillingness" and direct victimization started as Joseph had to keep her in line when she was hesitant, doubted her path and "tried to run away"...
- People are rarely directly forced into cults but simply lured in the name of "acceptance" and "belonging" and gaining their trust in the start. The it is very hard to get out again especially if the cult leader is determined to keep the person by all means necessary like Joseph clearly was with his "Faith" while Tracey was more "free" to leave and considering Rachels naive and easily manipulated mindset it is easy to see how she went down that road... Things in a cult is a little more complicated than just being forced or not. Especially for a young, vulnerable and naive teenage girl like her you can do a lot with just emotional words and talkings in the start because of her ignorance to anything else and the fact that she has no other happy life to compare to... Basically cult leaders and Joseph promises people what they have been missing and longed for their whole life and then uses their naivety and ignorance to indoctrinate them into his ideologies and into serving "his word" only which is what ultimately matters to him as he serves the "greater good". And it is only possible because these are young and mistreated people who for the first time felt like they were "part of something" and felt a misplaced sense of "love" and "family". So yeah Rachel got into the cult willingly before they became and actual cult without realizing what it was and but clearly didn't became what she became all that consciously and intentionally.
- The ultimate point In the final fight is that we breaks her out of her brainwashed vision and thus she starts to understand the reality more clearly, starts to remember and her real thoughts and doubts sparks on her mind. Even tho it isn't fully the black and white situation she describes that "NONE of this is her fault"(which she also clearly knows), It is clearly not her attempt at manipulating at all as some may be tempted to just assume but simply the reality sparks on her mind and her true Rachel comes crashing down to her... It is also her trying to justify to herself because she knows she is now responsible for bad things but clearly feels the need to explain that it wasn't her intention to became what she became and that her road to becoming it wasn't really in her intentions or in her agency - that she was young and clearly couldn't resist or handle what she was exposed to which is also completely reasonable to conclude considering everything you can learn about her origin and person as explained above.
Sorry for the wall, i hope i gave you a well defined answer. Lastly i think what i explained in my previous post that going into psychological understanding to how brainwashing works and how it affects people is key to fully understanding her story and key to understanding the fact that if someone isn't physically forced doesn't at all mean that they are willing which most definitely applies to cults aswell.
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bitchofedensgate · 2 years
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All what is going on in my mind rn is...
...Hope in the Bliss, playing with peoples mind, laughing, lulling them in, purring in their ear:"Hush, be good for me now" and digging in their brain for the most traumatic shit just to play it on endless loop till they give in or pass out.
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chobit92 · 2 years
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Oh The Bliss
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mishmesh · 2 years
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winged-fool · 1 year
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In honor of the Ides of March, my favorite Tiktok
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milkygothgf · 4 months
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I want to be corrupted into a total sex obsessed freak sooooo bad. I want to be forced to get horny from literally everything. Stick household objects in me. Make me hump shoes and bags and clothes. Make me finger myself anytime I talk on the phone. Make me rub my pussy juices on all of my things. Make me watch porn at work. Make me always keep an earbud in so I can listen to girls getting fucked streamed 24/7. Keep a dildo in me anytime I use my computer. Make me sexualize every nonsexual thing in my life. I want to be completely perverted.
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