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outivv · 1 year
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WHATTTT I DIDNT EXPECT HIM TO JUST… SAY IT THIS EARLY IN THE QUEST
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nightmarearian · 1 year
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helloo i just stumbled acress your blog and if you dont mind id like to ask-
FELLOW GENSHIN LORE FAN????
if yes then what are your thoughts on the next dain archon quest-
feel free to ignore/not answer btw, no pressure ^^
FUKC YEAH LOORREEE
I’m more into Khaenri’ah/Abyss lore, than anything else tho, if i’mma be honest lol.
I’m absolutely interested in lore and stories and general though to be honest I think my attention span and sleep deprivation doesn’t allow me to make up anything to big from scratch
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But I’d love to bounce of others if it weren’t for my social anxiety so please I’d be absolutely interested in anything with this
I’m really late to answering this shit to where people have already posted the cutscenes of Caribert onto yt, which I watched because impulse control is a myth and I’m quest locked so-
If you haven’t seen it yet then by all means ignore the rest of my rambling;
So Kaeya is specifically the descendant of the founder of the Abyss Order, Chlothar Alberich. Kae outwardly says he has no idea of the origin, with how openly he handles his last name, but he also says it ties up some questions he’s had.
Of course, quote Diluc, “you can only trust half of what he says at best,” so of course taking that with a grain of salt:
At ‘worst’ that means Kae always fuckin knew/This is just the final confirmation about it, and he knows a lot more about the Abyss Order. (Also funfact: one of his first, base lines, like the ones you have access to w/ friendship lvl 1, have something asking “Is the Abyss Order bothering you?” Not to mention there’s an anecdote on “You’re scars of the dark? That’s… interesting.” Oh, and that first archon quest in the domains and stuff; Where Kaeya recognizes hilichurl aren’t this smart and looks like he’s about to talk with a Abyss Mage before adult barges in. And the. “Let’s just say I was blessed with certain… linguistic powers.” Shit, foreshadowing goes deep.)
At best: He had just a bit of knowledge about it, and confirmation opens a lot up for him.
I do doubt he’d actually turn to the Abyss Order, cause Hoyo making him essentially a villain/major (enough) antag would be… uh, unlikely to say the least. I can see some spying on the Abyss Order and double crossing them though, that fits with Kae.
And at the same time, Caribert is apparently Chlothar’s son, right? He’s obviously affected by the curse, being the hilichurl. And so if we’re going with the “Kaeya is from straight up alive Khaenri’ah, not just the ruins” that either means through shenanigans Caribert turned into Kae or Kae has a sibling.
However, Kaeya is called a descendant of Chlothar, so that’s a separation of time; But then that also brings up the question of how Kaeya knows of Khaenri’ah? His Story says things/describes Khaenri’ah in things in general that paints it as if he actually lived there.
Did he live in ruins? Then I doubt he’d have as much knowledge about Khaenri’ah as he could very well likely have (and not tell us, obviously, the little liar [affectionate]). Not to mention the paper he stole when his father showed him about “what being an Alberich” is about and stuff; embers blah blah; that doesn’t sound like ruins…? Ugh. He has a stupid amount of 4-pointed stars on his design too; There is no way he doesn’t know at least a good amount about Khaenri’ah.
Following the Caribert -> Kaeya thing;
Chlothar did fuck around with the Abyss sibling (I play Aether so I’m gonna say Lumine) to try and find a way to help Caribert with the curse and stuff. Hell, after we dig up the bodies when Dain wakes us up, Dain questions if Chlothar found a way to stop the curse or something. So perhaps Chlothar did “cure” (to some level, otherwise they wouldn’t need to do the Loom of Fate shit) of some sorts that returned Caribert?
And then due to Abyssal time shenanigans (it’s already proven to fuck with time, look at Ajax/Childe) memories got fucked and Chlothar decided it’d be best to leave Kaeya in Mond, whether as a spy or for a better life? Kaeya does still have that eyes patch, after all. And it’s not implausible that there was a name change for ambiguity.
But at the same time, a ‘cure’ for the curse would be questionable - why hasn’t it been mass produced/practiced by now then? - not to mention I don’t think Kaeya would only get away from all that with just an eyepatch covering his face. And again, Kaeya was described as a “descendant” of Chlothar, and it’s referred to as an “ancestor/ancestry” specifically, so for the time thing it’s unlikely.
Not to mention, Chlothar also has a bigger star, closer to Dain than Kaeya’s. As Kae put it “pure-blood Khaenri’ahn”.
So yeah, Kaeya is probably just more of a descendant, if his appearance contradicting the description of a Khaenri’ahn has to say anything (“Light hair, fair skin, star-pupil” Kae is one of the 3 playable characters that has a darker skin tone, he has dark blue hair, and his star pupil is small than compared to Dain or Halfdan. …Though Chlothar has black hair. Huh).
But bring up the fact that he describes Khaenri’ah like he’s lived there and the. That brings up and entire other question/argument. Then what was Kaeya’s father, Chlothar or not, doing? Was he part of the Abyss Order? Or was it just something purely Khaenri’ahn? How is he not affected by the curse; was it the fact that he’s only part Khaenri’ahn?
So much questions so little information. This is the reason I love and hate lore aaaaaaa-
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Caribert & Kae are siblings? - Again the “descendant” and “ancestry” thing, and he is suspiciously absent if they are siblings. (Huh, the abyss/Khaenri’ah is having the small theme of siblings/siblings in arms. Aether & Lumine; Dain & Halfdan as brothers in arms; hell, in the more abyss based - Childe, you know with Teucer and shit, and then Kaeya, with Caribert or Diluc.
Of course I’m in love with the head cannon that Kae is from when Khaenri’ah was actually alive lmao :,)
And that’s only Kaeya, granted he is my favorite.
Now, the travelers. (Again, Aether as traveler, Lumi as Abyssal sibling)
Right. So we see Lumine’s memories of her time traveling with Dain, in which she meets Chlothar Alberich, who she sorta-helps with his son, Caribert. Then, once she wakes up, Chlothar goes on for a bit about the abyss being the answer to the curse or something, etc.
Assumedly, this would be where Chlothar founded the Abyss Order? At least, this is the main inviting event that leads to the Abyss Order.
I think, if I’ve read this correctly, Lumine is still traveling with Dain, so it’s not like she actively helps and joins with Chlothar. If what we say as the traveler in Lumine’s memories actually did happen, she probably joins the Abyss later; Alberich, maybe partly the fact that she’s princess of Khaenri’ah and was also incredibly helpful to the creation of the abyss order, gives her the title of Princess in the Abyss Order.
Did something happen during the travel that caused her to join the Order? Or was it just the fact of mulling it over for fuck knows how long and then splitting with Dain that got her to join?
Also, if the Alberich clan took over after the fall of King Irmin, then how do Lumine and Aether go into this? Are the the kids of King Irmin? We’re they too young to rule or something; then how was Lumine old enough to see the fall of Khaenri’ah? By then wouldn’t there be enough time for at least one for the sibling to rule? Then how come there’s no mention of it?
Hell there’s even the question of just how Aether could share memories with Lumine. Technically, nothing happened there that would indicate that there’s be like.. something to fuck around with for memories. By all means it’s just a place. Did another event happen here? Was the curse from Caribert just that strong/not as specific? Am I just looking a bit too into this part because let’s be honest they probably just need to drop this lore somehow?
Also, when Chlothar is talking to Caribert on the ledge, he says something along the lines of “remember this is a new place”
Essentially: This is new from what we know, it weird. (Come back here, please)
That either means something was fucky with Sumeru making it fantastical or they just left Khaenri’ah, which is more likely.
Then how long has Dain & Lumine been travling? The ruins of Khaenri’ah are said to be underground around Sumeru, curtesy of Kaeya*.
(*Wait, for the small story Kaeya tells, he say he want to go to Sumeru to learn more of his origins - again, grain of salt for the pathological liar - but that overall implies that he’s never been to the ruins of Khaenri’ah. Of course he could just be lying and as a child he just want to go home, even if said home we’re ruins, but still.)
How recent was the destruction of Khaenri’ah, then? Cause Dain & Lumine are both treating it as if it’s been long - Chlothar says something like “your alias” which implies that Lumine has been using the name “Traveler” during her travels with Dain long enough for it to just become.. well, her deficit alias.
And if Lumine was the Princess of Khaenri’ah, why would she give Chlothar an alias? He clearly has big fuckin stars for his pupils; If the destruction of Khaenri’ah was that recent, why would she be so guarded? Was Alberich suspicious during the reign of Khaenri’ah? But the Alberich clan took over in Irmin’s stead, meaning they were trustworthy and powerful enough to keep an entire kingdom together.
Just how long as is then since Khaenri’ah’s destruction, then? If it’s been long enough to where being weary of another Khaenri’ah is just “expected”, then there’s no reason for Chlothar to remind Caribert about our go Khaenri’ah.
If it hasn’t been to long, then why has Lumine not revealed herself, relieved at the survival and… not-hilichurl-indication of her people? And why do Dain & Lumine treat/talk about their travel, even just in Sumeru, as if it had went on for an long time?
Aaaaaaa-
I’d continue but’s it’s 2 am on a school night (morning) and I have an “out-of-sight, out-of-mind” brain so just. Take this. GN and thanks for asking! :D
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genshinconfessions · 2 years
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genshin speculations and sussy leaks [2.7+]
spoiler alert: speculations and leaks (most of them are sus) about future versions + spoilers about literally everything from 1.0 to 2.6
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guys idk why i’m sitting here typing this out it’s 1:22am and i have hw and class tomorrow buttttt
basically i’ve been watching chinese lore enthusiasts and i’ve seen some leaks that seem like they really make sense so i wanted to share those with yall since idk i have everything better to do?
okay i hope this was enough rambling for the ‘keep reading’ thing to come up but either way this is your LAST CHANCE TO LOOK AWAY if you don’t want to see leaks and speculations!!!!
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warning: all the video i’m linking are in chinese :( i’m really sorry, i couldn’t find any eng subs and it’s too late for me to go find videos in english
first things first, two / maps made by fans!! they generally check out with what i’m about to say next...
okay now this one chinese person i watch (here’s the youtube video uploaded by someone authorized) seems to be a geography major irl so they’ve identified some things about mondstadt and liyue that Just Make Sense. according to them, sumeru is right on liyue’s southern border because 1. there’s a place on the edge of the underground chasm where we find bigass roots (sumeru foreshadowing) and 2. some scholar in inazuma once mentioned that they took a boat to inazuma so sumeru must have a port.
they also said that the part bordering the chasm, at least, is going to be rainforesty because of parallels with the real world map (idk, it’s in the video, it’s pretty cool) and that there IS going to be a desert section but it’ll be farther south. i’m honestly not looking forward to the desert but i also sort of am...
THEN they said that fontaine is likely somewhere northwest of liyue since the bishui river comes from beyond there, and fontaine NPCs are mostly gathered around wangshu inn + realistic for endora to slime-hop to liyue through there. 
they’re like pretty sure that natlan is even more west of sumeru, and that snezhnaya is somewhere in the northwest. this is mostly because they believe that the fatui entered mondstadt through stormterror’s lair (it’s true that there ARE fatui in the northwest corner there...).
i’m pretty sure this same person also said (in a different video that i can’t find) that mondstadt is definitely going to have more regions. because the dandelion sea is presumed to be the ‘harder’ part, and because dorman port is somewhere mentioned by a lot of NPCs to be in the north but we haven’t seen it yet. also, cider lake/brightcrown canyon have to lead SOMEWHERE. 
they’ve also used a lot of evidence from mondstadt’s landscape and domains to speculate that there’s been an ancient civilization similar to enka/chasm/khaenri’ah that used to be in mondstadt. this also checks out with the lore of the seelies (which are everywhere, btw) so i’m personally speculating that one of these civilizations might be the seelies?? 
anyway, i’m not a geography major or anything, so even though all this makes sense, we’ll have to see.
i’ve been seeing a lot of leaks about scara and 2.7 recently and on reddit, things do check out!!! first off ppl are saying that itto is going to have a rerun, and different leakers have different views on xiao rerun. personally, i don’t think xiao rerun is too likely because he JUST reran (unless he’s an emergency rerun due to covid situation).
oh yeah, that’s another thing: apparently ppl are saying 2.7 might be delayed due to covid being really bad in china right now. other ppl are saying that it’s not likely because apparently hoyoverse has the next three updates geared and ready for beta. but we’re not betas or developers lol so we don’t know.
anyway, xiao banner or no xiao banner, it seems that xiao will definitely be in the story. so will yelan, itto, yanfei, and i think yun jin? last one i’m not sure about lol but it could also be klee (this is my speculation since leakers have said chasm is only going to run for two updates and we know klee wasn’t able to come in 2.6 since she was grounded). now i’ve only seen one leaker say this, but apparently there’s going to be another yaksha (not playable) who’s evil, which checks out with that one yaksha who vanished because he couldn’t take it anymore + xiao’s artifact domain + the lore from that one chasm quest. or multiple chasm quests, i forget. but either way, it’s the four-armed yaksha (in xiao’s teaser, it seems like they have an electro vision).
then ppl are saying that 2.8 is the last update before 3.0 and will feature kazuha, possibly klee, golden apple islands + fireworks, and heizou. apparently, heizou is the last inazuma character for a while (checks out if we go into 3.0) and is going to be anemo (lumie said it, so it’s probably reliable). that also checks out with the ppl saying that anemo will be really important in sumeru (apparently one leaker uncle also suggested pulling for hydro characters but idk how reliable that is).
oh and apparently we get hangouts in 2.7, 2.8, and 3.0, and fischl’s is going to be 2.8 + skin. this checks out with some news i heard a while back about how they finished fischl’s wayyy early but had to wait for oz’s VA to get replaced lmao. 
then onto 3.1, apparently scara is coming as a weekly boss. this checks out for two reasons: 1. someone said scara won’t be coming until sometime around anniversary and 3.1′s timing is coincidentally around september 20th heh, and 2. both 1.1 and 2.1 released harbingers as weekly bosses, so if the pattern persists, it sure makes sense that scara is 3.1. speaking of harbingers, ppl are also saying that arcchelino is the harbinger we’ll be meeting next, and piecing some things together, i’ve deduced that arcchelino might be a lady. MIGHT. possibly. perhaps. they were really hinting at it tho. (and apparently scara will be playable by the end of sumeru! rejoice, scara wanters!)
and speaking of sumeru, apparently collei is a dendro bow, yaoyao will be available through a hangout, and cyno might come soon? and based on Things, i have reason to believe that baizhu might be coming with sumeru, although many leakers have said that the new male character in 3.0 is someone we haven’t met yet :(
some things about sumeru... so apparently lesser lord kusanali uses a short female model and according to this sus video, she’s only a puppet archon for the people who are really in power. this is different from ei and raiden since ei personally made raiden and it’s technically still her in charge (even indirectly). apparently sumeru’s real power isn’t the archon at all. and that brings up to sumeru academia, which is apparently pretty high-tech and investigating Things (a leaker uncle previously said they were investigating khaenri’ah). also apparently the previous dendro archon (the one who died 500 years ago) might not be dead? since their power was apparently revival or smth but only during the night??
yeah really sus i know. idk if i trust that video very much LOL. 
some miscellaneous things that i read from leakers: unreconciled stars pt2, collei or yaoyao will guide us into sumeru, male anemo catalyst, scara might be catalyst, kazuha getting his own story, childe’s coming back in the story (whooo psycho boy!), standard banner is changing sometime during the next few updates, dendro will open up a whole new playstyle, fontaine has underground palace (multiple ppl have said this).
okay now sources. i got most of my stuff from the videos i linked and this chinese leaker info collection. there’s also some other stuff that i saw from other videos that unfortunately are also in chinese (also i can’t find them in my youtube history anymore sorry ;;) and from instagram leak screenshots.
now disclaimers: obviously these are leaks that we don’t know the truth behind. for the truth, we absolutely need to wait until the versions come out officially. all leaks are sus until confirmed by hoyoverse, and speculations are only speculations that we think of for fun.
don’t take this post too seriously! i just had too much energy i needed to blow off! if this post backfires on me, no it didn’t <3
- katheryne from liyue
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