#Hazbin hotel character criticism

[skyx-the-witch]

Vivziepop male character: *is supposed to be hot and attractive. Canonically everyone wants to fuck him, he is flirty, confident and makes everyone fall in love with him as soon as he appear. Hes got the best voice actor to make the most masculine and attractive voice to match his supposed sexiness. Everyone in the fandom talks about how he makes them wet their panties*

The fucking character design:

#hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #Helluva Boss critical #Vivziepop criticism #This type of characters makes me umcomfortable #I hated Moxxie's ex in that one episode #they tried so hard to make us simp for him being “smexy” when he is just ugly af #Hazbin Hotel will have lots of these #Never simped for Lucifer and Alastor and never understood why everyone in the fandom did #Helluva Boss criticism #Hazbin Hotel criticism

[barb-l]

Just wanna take a moment to talk about how much I adore Vaggie's verse in "Whatever It Takes", especially this line.

Because it makes so much sense after finding out Vaggie's backstory. Unlike the other residents in the Hotel, Vaggie wasn't someone that needed Charlie to be redeemed. Vaggie had always been a good person. She was a real angel who put down her weapon and refused to kill a child, even if it were a demon.

Lute saw Vaggie's mercy as a weakness and flaw that made her undeserving of her halo. Vaggie didn't need someone who saw and believed in the good in her. The problem is that she was seen as sinful just because she extended her kindness towards someone supposedly damned for eternal punishment.

Meeting Charlie made her realize that she wasn't alone. Vaggie is an outcasted angel for showing mercy to a demon, while Charlie is a ridiculed demon for believing in redemption for damned sinners. Charlie understood how it felt to be punished for her kindness, but still persevered with who she is, and so Vaggie does too.

One of the things I love about their relationship is that Charlie didn't "fix" Vaggie. She saved her, yes, but Vaggie had always had that good in her that she acted upon despite the consequences even before meeting Charlie. Such a pure soul like Charlie deserves someone whose kindness isn't dependent on their romantic relationship. It's why Vaggie saying that she believes in Charlie's dream aren't just empty words for the sake for supporting a loved one. Vaggie may be more realistic about it, but she definitely means what she says. She has saved a demon before, heaven's orders be damned. So she'll help Charlie save many more.

Vaggie isn't just helping Charlie with hotel just because she's being a good girlfriend. Well, she is duh but also they both just genuinely care about people even Heaven abandoned. That's why she and Charlie are partners.

#hazbin hotel #'vaggie is a bland character whose existence is dependent of charlie' u just dont see her the way i doooo #just because her whole world revolves around charlie #doesnt mean she has nothing going for her as a character without their relationship yanno #that's a criticism more fitting for --AHEM! #chaggie #vaggie #this is a vaggie appreciation post #a real angel!

[deerboy]

Bringing Vivziepop to a gay bar but it's full of bears and stone butches and she starts crying, clutching her chest and throwing up.

#hazbin hotel critical #her male characters are all twinks and charlie wearing a suit is the closest thing to butch she can make without getting scared

[deadbeat-motel]

ᑫᑌIᑕK ᒍOKE-Y ᖇEᗪEᔕIGᑎ

My friend and I were talking about how useless these characters are. He suggested I redesign them and since they're basically over-glorified pets, I decided they should just be pets like the cat they own.

Vivziepop underestimates the power of fugly ass creatures.

#vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel redesign #deadbeat motel redesign #//I did this in like 15 minutes// #//also i don't understand why these nothing characters get to have a full tuxedo//

[fizzy0bloom]

everytime some dickrider start to bitch about redesigns i want you to show them this

did she even try ??

credit : https://x.com/DorozDACL/status/1770193431257616586?s=20

#hazbin critical #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique #helluva boss critical #helluva boss criticism #helluva boss critique #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critique #stans and antis dni #twitter #idk how to call this like the character still have yellow eyes and a suit yet still she did this lmao and the pose help #hazbin hotel redesign #helluva boss redesign

[poisonheiress]

Someone needs to say it: The "Heaven is actually bad" plot line that Hazbin is based around is useless when you spend more then 2 minutes thinking about Vivzie's Hell and her characters.

Besides it being much too early for this idea, the revelation that Heaven or at least the beings running it aren't good people has little to no impact when the people who are being harmed by this are all horrible people. Stay with me here. None of these people are people who were unfairly brought into hell and we are never ever introduced to someone who was either. Why should we care that Heaven is "evil" and blocking redemption when all the sinners in hell we see are the worst of the worst who would have never gotten in even if it was fair.

For the "Heaven is bad" plot line to actually work, you need people who were just one sin away from Heaven, who would've gotten into Heaven if circumstance hadn't forced them down a path that stole it from them. You need characters who aren't comedic villains but land in the middle of morally grey. Those who deserved to be in Heaven but because Heaven refused to consider their circumstances, they were tossed to burn with people much worse than them. Those are the people who should be your main cast cause those are the people who would actually be impacted by Heaven being bad/ Heaven lying.

Angel dust, for all his trauma, was still part of the mafia and likely had killed people before (showing to almost take joy in it). Husk became an overlord and gambled souls, so he had to have had blood on his hands before hell. Alastor is a serial killer, and the list goes on and on. Sure, these characters are (somewhat) interesting, but they don't make for good characters to have when the key plot line is that Heaven is a scam. Even if that fact is true, none of them were ever going to get there in the first place and this is something we also se in every single background sinner shown in Hell too. They were never close to getting there, so why would they or we care that Heaven is bad when all sinners are shown to be horrific people who are at best in the dark grey area of morality.

If you look at it from the "angel's are unfairly killing sinners" route, it still doesn't work. If the angels are killing them, what makes it different then the sinner on sinner violence that hell is full off? Why is them dying by angels this bad thing when they are just as likely if not 10x times more likely to get knifed in the back by other sinners in hell the other 364 days, especially when everyone here apparently is just as horrible as the next person. You cannot condemn the angels for killing demons and then make a joke of out sinners killing each other and never show sinners who doesn't want to kill people. Life either matters or it doesn't and when the main cast doesn't even show a care for life (outside of Charlie's who's entire flaw is her naivety), why should the audience.

On top of that, Vivzie's whole overpopulation aspect and the Heaven plot line would connect better if she actually had people like those I mentioned above, people who stole to survive but got tossed out cause stealing is technically wrong, people who killed another to protect someone else but were still sent to hell because even though they saved that person's life that person wasn't supposed to be saved, people who passively engaged in sins but never really did anything harmful under them. This would add into how Hell is so overpopulated and highlight why its so important that Heaven is evil/ why Charlie's plan isn't just a naive pathetic fever dream.

In the end, Vivzie should have never made Heaven the central plot of this show nor tried to assign this blatant good vs evil to that conflict. Neither her characters nor her writing choices are able to respond to this conflict in a way that will end or even tell the story in a satisfactory manner.

#anti hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #spindlehorse critical #spindlehorse criticism #also I am not just talking out my ass for this #I had/have this same problem in one of my original works #where I had to make the relationship between Heaven and God and cambion a lot more complex then just oh this side bad this side good #and thats what you have to do as a fucking writer is ask the hard question and be ready to scrap characters and ideas to answer them #When you deal with human characters nothing is black vs white and the minute you claim it is #you have failed

[gh0stygray]

Lute redesign!! aka the sapphic knightify of lute because I actually really enjoyed her character. I was interested in her way back when she was first teased along side Adam and when I finally got to see her in action in the show I was enthralled, I loved her songs!

For this design I decided to add more armour to her, she’s not afraid of getting hurt or anything but I feel like it sets her aside from the rest of the exorcists. She takes her job incredibly seriously, she is a lieutenant after all. I added some crosses to her design and made her wing colour match her hair, also added a second hair option to show off her undercut!

It’s a brighter purple and I think she looks neat with it, I’ll probably add some casual clothing for her, I found it weird how she and Adam were actively sporting their exorcist outfits freely in heaven when the rest of heaven isn’t supposed to know about the annual extermination. Lute even had blood all over her outfit.

I hate Adam but him and lute as a duo was my favourite part they were funny and their duets were great, kinda feel like we got a major villain death wayyy too soon tho. I should be taking a crack at the seraphim sisters or Adam next.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin #hazbin lute #hazbin hotel redesign #hazbin hotel fandom #hazbin hotel fanart #hazbin art #hazbin critical #hazbin hotel lute #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin hotel critique #hazbin hotel art #character design #art #sketch art #sketch #artists on tumblr #artwork #digital art #fanart #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel exorcists #ghostygray

[toastyghostcriticalblog]

This tweet aged poorly like milk

#yeah viv Millie trying to kill herself because she feels like she is not a good wife GREAT character development 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 #and don’t get me started Charlie #anti vivziepop #vivzepop critical #anti hazbin hotel #anti helluva boss #helluva boss critical #hazbin hotel critical

[m3nty-chocalatte]

Alstor redesign pfp cause I wanted to and yall seemed to like this design🦌 also Happy Black history month I had to him right✊🏾

Drooling below\also participate in the poll!

#my art #art #digital art #fan art #m3nty's art #hazbin hotel #hazbin alastor #alastor hazbin hotel #alastor redesign #hazbin hotel criticism #hazbin hotel redesign #black characters matter!! #black history month

[plaguedpriest]

real quick vox redesign, not rlly a "fix" thing but just for funsies :7

#my art #aesterart #hazbin hotel #hh #vox #redesign #character design #tv head #hazbin hotel critical #< not rlly but tagging this cuz ik some ppl blacklist th tag for redesigns #made this in like 2 hours n prob could whip up a better design w/ more effort if i wanted #but i just wanted 2 get some basic ideas down ......... #i like the idea of vox having a tv show host kind of persona! would contrast nicely w/ alastor i think #and also wanted to give him a more boxy body shape #+ the warmer primary colors cuz thats what i associate w/ tv imagery in my head #idk

[scientistservant]

My redesign of Sir Pentious. He’s mine now.

He’s a sorcerer/illusionist instead of an inventor. He can use magic, including hypnosis, as well as store things in his hat.

Penny’s stripes and eyes, including the ones on his inner hood, glow in the dark. His amount of eyes have also been greatly reduced, because holy shit, I pity the animators. The eyes on each side of his hood are false ones, merely patterns.

Haven’t designed them yet but his eggies are still around! I love the idea that he lays them himself, because oviposition is rad, and Sinners being unable to have offspring while Lucifer and Lilith were able to have Charlie is incredibly stupid and makes no sense. So Pen has been given egg-laying privileges.

And a new name. I just have to think of one. It’s 5 am and I’m going to bed.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel redesign #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin critical #anti hazbin hotel #anti vivziepop #sir pentious #character redesign #snake #cobra #oviposition mention #ocs: percival silas viper

[fortunelowtier]

There's something rlly funny about the biggest Hazbin/Helluva shill on the platform preaching about bad character writing lmao

#tadc #the amazing digital circus #hazbin critical #hazbin hotel critical #“OH SO NOW THE HAZBIN FAN IS GONNA PREACH TO US ABOUT CHARACTER WRITING” #/ref

[hyyyperfixated]

viv ruining cherri’s character to make husk the only one genuinely caring for angel and reaching out in a real way was evil and wicked and despicable. addict cherri would NEVER do that shit. free my wife!!

#This is why i have little faith in huskerdust #How many female characters are going to be mischaracterized to make them the Perfect Character TM #caroline is talking #hazbin hotel critical #vivziepop critical #cherri bomb #angel dust #huskerdust #< by extension

[rev-illustrates]

-Reimagined/Redesigned The Princess of Hell - Charlie Dawnbringer (my name). This was drawn out of what used to be my liking for the pilot as they massacred my girl Charlie. I feel she was dumbed down in the season we got and lost her authority, personality, and other traits I loved.

-I made her a bit average sized and gave her hooves. I wanted her to have snake like hair and for her horns to be of her mother and for them to be shaped like her father’s wing crown. She even had a crown in general ! I wanted her to look like she’s actively running around doing things due to the rolled up sleeves and vest she wore. I see her as a tomboy like the old art. Shadows on her hands like her father and mother. Rosy cheeks and lipstick. Another trait I gave her is that she makes little trinkets for herself and others. Such as the bracelet on her wrist having a moth on it for Vaggie, and the cotton candy earring she had.. I swapped the red she had for a more orange color it makes it pop more same with her eyes.

Re-Redesign of Lucifer coming soon, !

#character art #digital art #hazbin hotel redraw #hazbin hotel redesign #hazbin hotel critique #hazbin hotel critical #hazbin charlie #vivziepop critical #vivziepop criticism #vivziepop critique #anti vivziepop #character design

[raviosprovidence]

I already told some friends this but it makes me extremely mad seeing Lucifer's design in Hazbin because...vivzie already designed lucifer for zoophobia and he's *so much better*

Look at him! Like yeah it is all red but at least it's a nice muted red with lighter accents in the eyes and eyebrows. He's not 50 shades of blood.

The big horns that reference a broken halo are a wonderful touch. I love the grizzled face and hunched back that show he's Old and Has Seen Things. I like the cloak that adds an air of mystery as to what's behind it.

Compared to this...

This is just a White Onceler. He doesn't convey anything lucifer to me other than the snake and the apple on his top hat. He's just another generic triangle tooth twink.

Going back a bit, It also helps for zoophobia that he was supposed to be in a world of characters who WERE bright and colorful so he actually stood out in a good way

Look at these guys! Sure, it's busy, but I can actually tell which characters are what. They all feel like they have their own identity and aesthetic due to their different colors. It's what a cartoon cast is SUPPOSED to look like.

Old lucifer would have stood out in that cast because not everyone is fucking red. New lucifer barely stands out, only because he looks so much like Charlie. And even THEN, they look like siblings!

this isn't official art done by Vivienne but I couldn't find any other good screencaps showing them side by side. If someone didn't know shit about hazbin they'd think charlie and lucifer were twins. Nothing about new lucifer's design suggests that he's a father or even older than 25.

It's sad, honestly. I used to look up to vivienne when I was younger. Now, she's a shadow of her former self as an artist.

#anti hazbin hotel #anti hazbin #anti viviziepop #media critical #fandom talk #character design #hazbin critical #hazbin critique

[squiddcakes]

Redesign of my old Cherri Bomb redesign because it looks bad and outdated.

#this looks infinitely better I jsut might keep this design #unlike some people I know how to add ethnic features to non human characters #and have accurate period clothing. #anyways dont follow me expecting hazbin stuff I want nothing to do with vivziepop #cherri bomb #hazbin critical #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel #hazbin redesign #art #digital art #character design