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incorrect-ikevamp-quotes · 1 year

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do you think leonardo or comte is older? i can’t remember it being specified but i’m not sure. i mean we have leonardo’s age but how old is comte??? i haven’t played comte’s route so idk if cybird mentioned it or made one up but his real historical birthday/place was pretty much unknown i think??? thoughts?

I always thought Comte was the older of the two? But to be honest I was never sure if that was just my bias talking or it was actually the case. So naturally, because I am So Normal, I did a little digging through all the stories I've read up to this point to see if there were any concrete indicators. The most promising lead I was able to find was from the "Tell Me Your Story" collection event.

Meta under the cut, since I was left unsupervised and it got long:

The contents that are most pertinent to what I have to say are as follows:

In this story, Comte speaks a little bit about his childhood because MC found him playing the violin. He talks about how he originally trained as a young boy on an instrument called "a rebec." Mind you, Comte says that he still has the first one he ever bought--he remembers because he acquired it the day he was told he would stop aging forever. In due course he takes it out to show her--and later plays for her, at her request.

Now, looking at all the facts. The violin was said to be introduced between 1540 and 1560, roughly speaking (I'm not a historian, this is all based on rudimentary research). This doesn't tell us too much though, as Comte does say the instrument he trained on and first purchased was much older. Many sources show the rebec dating back as early as the 10th century (meaning anywhere from 900-1000) in Spanish courts, a supposed mashup of the Arabic rebab and the Eastern European lira. The clearest written records (the few that exist) begin from the early 12th century and on, though it was at the height of its popularity towards the 15th/16th century.

Aside from the fact that that's fuckin crazy, that would place Comte as being born anywhere from 900-1100 (1200-1500 at the very latest). Now I know what you may be thinking. How the hell does that narrow anything down, Minnie?

Given the cultural implications surrounding the rebec's emergence, the context actually does allow certain tentative conclusions to be drawn. I've seen indications that musical talent with a rebec was considered a big deal as an indicator of wealth/higher status in the earlier years of that time frame. Taking Comte's childhood into account--that he was raised to effuse aristocratic breeding and poise--I think that makes it highly unlikely he was learning when it was most associated with street performers (during the latter portion of my posited time frame). Everything about Comte's family pretty much screams old money (aka wealth they were born into, not curated during the rise of the mercantile class trying to be posers), so I really can't see them raising their son to play commoner music.

Another very telling bit lies in the phrasing of how he found the instrument: "he discovered the old rebec among other goods from a foreign trader." Remember that in the latter end of the time frame, it was so commonplace it could probably be found among local vendors/craftsmen--there would be no need for them to be imported from foreigners. I imagine his family only had access to the instruments in accordance with their social standing; naturally the rich would have their connections, but not just anybody would have the money or means to get their hands on one.

If my beginner's dive isn't too far off the mark, that would make Comte anywhere between approximately 400-1000 years old. I get this hunch that he's probably somewhere in the middle, I just don't know where exactly. I wish I had a better estimation since that's a pretty huge range, but considering the lifespan of the rebec it's hard to tell.

The only great anachronism in all this is the existence of Comte's pocket watch which was gifted to him by his tutor (I believe that's what she was, I know it was one of the human people in his house when he was young). The first pocket watch is said to have been created in Germany in 1510 (and shortly after distributed in Italy), but honestly it feels a bit out of place compared to all of the other evidence available to us. If that's the case, then Comte could have been born in the 1490s (since he received it when he was like 12, somewhere around there). Honestly I do feel the game suggests that he's older than that, so there's some dissonance there. But I leave that up to personal interpretation, since I'm not 100% sure about it either.

Lowkey, I feel like they might have gone so hard with the timepiece imagery for Comte that they forgot the historical practicalities attached to them, so that's half the reason I don't know what to do with this information. I get that vibe of like something something rich people cop out, unless purebloods have weirdly long childhoods--

Leonardo I don't have as many receipts because I'm just a poor Comte stan trying to live (his collection stories are pain), but if we go by the indication that his in-game life loosely follows the historical figure and simply continues on with his faked death, that means he was likely born somewhere around 1452. I can't remember super clearly, but for whatever reason my only memory of age indicators for Leonardo was around 400 or so (which tracks with that interpretation). That would actually make him potentially younger than Comte, younger than I initially anticipated. Or, if Comte was born on the latter end of my estimations, they are at the very least close in age.

Also please don't hesitate to let me know if I'm missing any receipts on Leonardo, I have only one brain cell and she is trying so hard, my friends

As to the place of Comte's birth I haven't the slightest clue about that. It's pretty obvious he's of European ancestry, but as to where he was born/raised exactly, it's difficult to tell. Given all the talk of the rebec there's a decent likelihood he originates from the Mediterranean area/Southern Europe, as it is an Arabic instrument by origin that was adapted into something new by Spain. (This could mean he was born anywhere between France, Spain, Italy, or even the countries a little further up or closer to the Middle East.)

I considered Northern Europe/England, but honestly the evidence doesn't really seem to lean in that direction. Comte mentioned that he once lived in England and made friends there, but the way he talks about makes it sound like he was a visitor/traveler, not a native. And frankly, Comte isn't insufferable enough to be English lmao, he has a conscience. There is actually some tentative evidence for Irish descent, as the vampy mind persuasion/compulsion is termed "geas" in the game, which is a word that stems from Irish gaelic/folklore. The only reason I don't think there's a real connection is that there's no further evidence tying Comte to Ireland; and I don't think the etymology necessarily guarantees ancestry (though there is something to be said about the Irish gothic and vampiric origins).

Admittedly it feels like the game makes his nationality vague on purpose, and I think this has a two-part intention. The first is that historically he was shrouded in a great deal of mystery, so it only makes sense they would be reluctant to name a singular place. The second is that--and I don't remember where the screenshot is, I saw it a while ago--the game describes him as belonging to no one place (that he belonged to all and none). Keeping his character construction in mind, I feel like this aligns with his general theme of contradiction. He's a greater vampire who prefers to keep company among humans, he's a powerful being with a fragile/sensitive heart, he has strong convictions but hesitates constantly, he's able to blend in almost everywhere he goes but never truly feels like he belongs. It would only make sense, narratively speaking, to keep with that motif/trend.

Also quick aside, because I can't help the music nerd in me. Rebecs are bitchin?????? Holy shit slay. Fun fact: they appear to have been primarily used for festivities, played for dancing. That gives a whole new impression to the fact that he bought one the moment he found out he would never age any further. I guess I just think about how that's a pretty joyous purpose for the music (beyond the pedigree aspect). That he clung to this specific artifact as a way to remind himself of his connection to humanity, that it was about people gathering and enjoying each other's company (and yet at the same time, all the political games that come with such leisure)...what a reflection of who he is today. I think it's fascinating how much people are at the heart of his personal motivations and feelings, considering how easy it is for purebloods to become lone wolves (power and secrecy would lend itself to that.) Instead, Comte chooses to hide in plain sight and actively works to stay engaged in the times and among the population. Then again, if I were hundreds of years old I would probably also beg for a distraction from the encroaching madness so like ajkhslgfkjhfslakjh it's very sweet but also mood...

In short:

Thank you for the ask, lovely!! 💛💛💛💛 I hope this answers your question? I love any excuse to talk about my one and only 👀💍

#ikevamp #ikemen vampire #ikevamp comte #ikevamp saint germain #ikevamp leonardo #ikevamp meta #honestly i went down a much deeper rabbit hole than I anticipated #but the game is so vague and my mans so sexy that i just had to see the timeline for myself #in short: i don't need sleep i need a n s w e r s #although man if im reading this all correctly that's insane #that would make him potentially twice as old as leonardo b r U H H H H H #explains comte's sense of like 'im old enough to be too mature for this' (chops the back of Leo's head the second MC isn't looking anyway)#i still die laughing whenever i read comtes second bday story and it deadass says 'but before leo could make a wisecrack'#their verbal jousts to establish class clown dominance are hilarious #i have half a mind to give them wiffle ball bats and watch them smack the shit out of each other #with only that feral instinct that wiffle ball bats evoke in pent up middle schoolers #comte be like 'take the professional deep breath' in every other situation #but then on sight just **decks leonardo with a folding chair**#literally the duality of man #fangdad propaganda #all right all it is 1am it is time for me to sleep #but i hope you enjoyed this installment of minnie's rambles

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wizardnuke · 6 months

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no to be so real about this. growing up i saw crossdressing played for jokes onscreen all the time and every time i would tune out the laugh tracks and just watch those men prance around in pretty dresses and think. wait. i can do it the other way around. i can do that. it was a rudimentary understanding of gender nonconformity that processed to 8y/o me as "that's a man in a dress. i want to be a girl in a suit" but really meant "drag queens and trans women and crossdressers exist and i'm trans". i wish there was a way to tell every writer that's ever made a joke about those groups that theyre personally responsible for transsexualizing me

#i knew it was for jokes and i also knew there must be people that theyre joking about. i thought the jokes were mea #mean* and i wanted to be friends with the people they were being mean to and i wanted the clothes they didn't want to wear anymore #AND I KNOW SO MANY TRANS WOMEN NOW THE WORLD IS SO BEAUTIFUL!!#i know one (1) crossdresser guy and he is so so so dear to me. fuck the binary etc #and. god yeah i had myself figured out when i was VERY young. in comparison to some ppl i think. very young and honestly it sucked.#watching men in drag with laugh tracks and thinking where are the men who really do that they have to exist where are they where are they

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n7punk · 8 months

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insane behavior. like first of all, this is a comment on a T rated fic. so what the fuck is that 😂 I do have E rated fics, but if you're aware of that (which you SHOULD BE before bringing up nsfw as a bare minimum) then go comment on one of those. I keep the comments sections on T fics clean and i feel like that's basic logic lmao

second of all just. a weird way to phrase it.

third, you don't state a specific request unless you know they take them?? if you are asking whether they're open, it should be "do you take requests" and not "do you take requests for [specific thing]" because that's a lot more demanding and again: the nsfw thing. i guess "do you take requests for explicit fics" without saying what said thing is would be okay (IF they already have E fics) but also: don't most people take requests on their other socials rather than AO3 itself? like usually it's on your tumblr, twitter, etc that you take requests.

fourth. i don't. i don't take requests. i say in my FAQ i don't but i do Not think this person put that much effort in lmao

fifth. I HAVE MULTIPLE OF THESE ALREADY???? like this person so clearly Did Not Do Any Research and just basic logic is to check for said thing before asking. it's not hard you can literally search my profile for the tag like 😂 this comment is deranged on every level

#no part of this is not insane i had to point at it and laugh #i deleted and blocked them already lmao so don't bother looking for it #honestly there's been a few wild ones recently. myself and a friend both got comments from the SAME PERSON #randomly asking about a deleted fic by another author none of us had heard of or that had anything to do with our fics lmao #like guys: just don't bring up other fics in comments unprompted. its rude and rarely relevant and never necessary #im sure there will be some authors that feel differently but you never know which the author is and like #if you presented something you made to someone and they started talking about someone else's version how would you take that?#it's just kinda rude. and also the majority of the time the other fic mentioned is Bad lmao #(there are rare times when it is at least relevant and not bad that im like sure ill leave that but in general its just a dont)#at some point i will catch up on comments but the week long flare is making it kind of hard lmao. at least this was an inexplicable laugh

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aroaessidhe · 2 days

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2024 reads / storygraph

A Botanical Daughter

historical fantasy

a taxidermist and botanist who live in a greenhouse in a botanical garden, far away from the disapproval of Victorian London

when they receive a shipment of a strange sentient fungi, they cultivate it inside a corpse of a recently murdered girl - who was the best friend/lover of their new housekeeper

as she grows and expands her desires they have to deal with their feelings about the potential monster they’ve created

#A Botanical Daughter #aroaessidhe 2024 reads #man I really wanted to like this but I kinda had to force myself to finish it.#really not a fan of the writing style which is very emotionally distant and full of a lot of telling not showing #it could have gotten weird and atmospheric with the writing style! we could have gotten sentient fungi POV! but no.#The characters were flat. the conceptually weird/creepy/horror aspects were executed in the most boring way #the relationship between the men is something we’re told exists but…. I don’t feel it. I don’t like them as characters.#They’re not even interesting enough to hate - or like it could have gone in the direction of embracing the unhinged murder couple vibes #they flip flop between angry arguments and making up and I’m like what is the point of that?? Honestly I didn’t feel any emotional connecti #it kinda feels like it doesn’t know whether it’s whimsical quirky-cozy vibes or like properly gothic horror #it’s somewhere in between & fails at both. it maybe suffers from trying to play into the popularity of coziness #the closest to weird we get is plant lesbian sex scene but also I laughed out loud when I read the line ‘hungry for her loam’#like…..these men essentially create this person then cut her off from the world and her biological desires; control her autonomy/ability #to speak and the conclusion is <3 what a weird little family <3 and not she should #escape and kill them and/or make them grapple with the fact they are at fault for this potential ecological disaster let loose on the world #there’s also weird colonialist lines scattered throughout that don’t feel super interrogated…

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journen · 1 year

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I remember when this folder only had 5 artworks🥲

It’s been about a year since I got into codywan and almost a year exactly since I posted my first codywan art i think and let me tell you the brain rot is real probably not a day has gone by since then where I haven’t thought about these two fucks lol

#anyways sorry i made myself laugh with this hahahahaha #i also have more drawings than this but they are sorted in different folders for events and such #🤣#but honestly i havent had so much fun in fandom before getting into this ship! theres so many nice and talented creators and for the #most part its just so wholesome loll so thank you all!!! i feel v greatful hehehe #anyways sorry #journen is just having codywan feels this morning HAHHAHA #journen speaks #obi wan kenobi #commander cody #codywan

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hwiyoungies · 1 year

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sungjae ✧ wind and wish ✧ 230512

#malegroupsnet #btob #sungjae #yook sungjae #these are so tinyyyyyy i got so used to making big gifs #but he honestly had shit camera work 😔#would've been cool to have a close up of him laughing alas #also making this to get out of the funk i got myself in lmao #i like my gifs and that should be enough!!!! but i gotta admit that people liking them too is nice as well #anyways!! have the loml #b.edits

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therentyoupay · 8 months

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Her body was like lead.

She couldn't ever remember being this sore and heavy before, not even after the three-day trek over the Perito Moreno glacier along Argentina's border. Korra stumbled down the stairs, clutching the wooden railing hanging against the wall like a novice skater in an ice-rink, emitting quiet gasps and groans in turn. A moment later, Ikki bounded around the top of the stairs and—a fraction of a second later—bounced in, out, and around Korra's feet, shooting rapid-fire questions about everything from the band plastered over her shirt to—

"Korra, good morning, Korra! Korra, why are you walking so funny? Korra? Korra, didn't you listen to daddy's instructions last night? You didn't stretch, did you? Did you, Korra? Now you're muscles are going to seize up and paralyze so you can't walk and we'll have to push you around in a shopping cart everywhere and then you'll die."

"WAFFLES!" bellowed Meelo, who catapulted himself into Korra's left leg at the unfortunate end of an attempted slide down the railing. Korra's mouth contorted, and a silent cry of pain twisted itself across her face as Meelo extracted himself from her calf and somersaulted over the final two steps, all before taking off toward the kitchen like a chemically-enhanced Nerf bullet.

personal record now on ao3!

#therentyoupay personal record #tahnorra #honestly 2012!kris was something else lmao but MY HUMOR HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH I SEE SINCE I STILL MADE MYSELF LAUGH goodness gracious #trekking the perito moreno glacier was a self-insert personal experience by the way!!! i had just studied abroad in argentina!!#but not 3 days of trekking lol no more like 3 hours

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heartshattering · 6 days

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Today is an IBS flare day and I'm regretting all of my life decisions

#IBS #I always get overconfident when I haven't had bad symptoms in a while #'I haven't eaten this type of food in a few days so having it now won't hurt'#'Yeah this medicine isn't good for my stomach but I'm not feeling well so just one pill won't irritate my stomach'#:')#if my life was a show this would be the part where the laugh track goes off at how irresponsible I am #I really need to be more careful with what I eat #and manage my pain without meds that will just hurt my stomach more #OH and the freaking 3 cups of coffee I had today since my brain wasn't wanting to work #I'm not supposed to have that much coffee for like... 3 different health conditions I have going on #including tachycardia and a history of arrhythmia #it feels like I'm always sick and then I try to “fix” it by making myself a different type of sick 🙃#I feel so unwell right now #I guess it's a wake up call to take better care of myself but I'm so terrible at it #honestly it's a miracle I've been sleeping semi normally these days #but everything else feels damn near impossible #my stomach is so sensitive #ughhhhhhh

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dmumt · 2 months

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train was suddenly terminated as we pulled into a station so we all had to get off and find another train towards london except all those trains are also cancelled and delayed so why don’t we all just kill ourselves

#it was already delayed by over an hour because of the signal failure but they were like don’t worry we’re taking a diverted route #so we’re still gonna get to kgx just late . and then as we were pulling into peterborough they suddenly said oh we’re not going any further #sorry xoxo like hello??? u couldn’t have said this a few minutes earlier??? so the whole train had to quickly get off and now everyone is #packed onto one thameslink service to london . thank god i have a seat #and i also managed to get a snack in between the trains because i am hungry 😭#but fml seriously i was supposed to be home by now #british train system i wish you a serious die honestly why does this always happen #real jjong singing oh it’s a little bit funny . no it’s not . nothing to laugh about in my life #will i get my money back is the real question . how do i even process this refund is it a cancellation or a delay im killing myself #.txt

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esprei · 2 years

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OH HEY i just wanted to hop on real quick to say i technically had my first submas dream!

it honestly wasn’t much all i remember is i was sitting at a table with them and other people and i said something to emmet that made him crack up laughing

#i was cracking up too #and i was so proud of myself because i made him laugh #he had such a happy laugh too ;-;#like yeah i know i know the only part i remember was about emmet but i'll honestly take that as a win

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speakeasier · 3 months

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OHH BOY, LATE TO POSTING ONCE MORE. but it was partially because tumblr seems to have been acting up today??? part five and we barely alive, let's gooooooo.

a bit more on some relationships!!

-iris' relationship with hera has been rough all things considered. will probably explain more another time. but it's obvious why iris hated her at first. to this day, it's still not the best out there, as there is still some resentment. but it's tolerable. iris has come to gain some respect for hera over time and has learned a lot while serving under her.

-apollo's relationship with the muses is kind of like a manager to a girl group. lololl. the girls can manage themselves well enough, honestly. they can survive without him. (they've been entertaining even before he was born) but apollo kind of knows how to bring out the best of them with a good way of cohesion. he gives them a little oomph factor.

-the muses in turn, while taking apollo under their wing. wishes that artemis would join them more often. as sometimes it would be better to hear someone else other than apollo talk. plus they kind of want to wink wonk at the twins, even if subtlety.

-artemis sometimes hangs during casual down time or practice sessions, but she respects their sacred circle and time, so she doesn't stay long or visit often. she feels like she's a lowkey bother, even though she's not. she loves the muses dearly, and appreciates them a lot since they know how to reign apollo in.

-i feel like i should make some kind of venn diagram sometime. but in terms of the kids. you can kind of split them up into two main groups in terms of who hangs/talk to each other more often. artemis, apollo, athena, ares. and the other, heph, dite, dionysus, and then herms. there's obviously overlap and other intricacies, and honestly herms can even go to the other side. but for the most part, these peeps vibe with each other. will explain more eventually, hopefully!!

-this is kind of mean at least from me speaking on the outside perspective. but. LOLOL. the kids on olympus think seph is more a 'cousin' than a sister. if you ask them, they'll still say seph is a sib. but because she's kind of sheltered and sticks to demeter, her vibes is more of a cousin.

#WHEEZING AS I DRAG MYSELF OUT THE MUD SORRY IT'S SHORTER THAN USUAL #i had less time to think and prepare what i wanted for today because tumblr was acting funny amdkwkek #because usually when i post these i do it on spot like i think it on the spot i don't usually go preparing it and thinking ahead #like i could but then it would just be too easy which honestly at this point i should try to make it easier on myself since i'm struggling #but yeah if i really did think ahead and stuff i would put shit up to queue but alas LOLOL #sorry yeah i consider tonight a bit of a fail but i farted out what i could before midnight kwnskwwk #if i kept thinking i would have posted up at one or something laughing #rip #lore and behold #interpretation may vary

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