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"History Anew"
Itself and its class both named for the legacy of the original Great Experiment, the USS Excelsior, under Hikaru Sulu's command, the new USS Excelsior of the Excelsior II-Class sets forth to continue a storied legacy.
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Familiar but Different by Jetfreak-7
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The Greater Experiment - art by Jetfreak-7
Featuring a significant departure from her basic frame, the Excelsior II Class is the culmination of nearly a century of field experience and continuous improvement. By all accounts a radical redesign, she still retains the spirit of being an adaptable heavy cruiser. Well suited to undertaking general Starfleet duties of exploration and defense.
The class pathfinder USS Excelsior (NCC-42037) is seen here navigating the Ghesania System, once the furthest area ever traversed by a Federation vessel. Today is a routine test flight however, as she monitors the performance of her refurbished BL-III Series nacelles. A high endurance powerplant that has become her definitive nacelle design.
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End of History
On her final cruise, the USS Enterprise-A heralds an era of change as the torch of one generation is entrusted to the next.
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Lots and lots of random spoilerific things about Star Trek comics
Gold Key's old run was written by people who had never actually seen the show. Later they involved fans like Doug Drexler to make things a bit more authentic
This however made them, IMHO, amazing
Blond scotty. Wearing green.
Voodoo planet, with papier mache versions of Earth landmarks which, when blasted with a death ray, cause the real ones to collapse
Spock learns voodoo to combat this threat
The Enterprise completely razes a planet of hostile plant spore things. Like full on extermination of all life
There's a locked room on deck 7 full of evil Vulcan spirits. A yeoman blunders in and all hell breaks loose
Kirk doesn't know what a god damn black hole is
Spock is kidnapped by aliens, has their entire knowledge downloaded into his brain which makes him into a bobblehead for awhile
The Enterprise is briefly taken from Kirk and given to Captain Zarlo, who is a total bellend
Spock forgets to have pointed ears sometimes
The old UK newspaper comic strips were even worse. The first few issues feature "Captain Kurt" and he wears a red shirt. Bailey is also a lead character, giving away which one episode they had knowledge of
Depictions of the Enterprise in their very first strip will shock and horrify you, but after that the art becomes amazing and maintains a very high standard
Marvel did a series following The Motion Picture, and it was a vast improvement, although they technically had rights to the movie and not the series, which led to a little weirdness. Tons of references still were snuck in, though
There's a series of Book and Records, which you can listen to on YouTube and are goofy fun. The Enterprise desperately needs a meal in the art, though.
They draw Romulans as green wizards
They didn't have the rights to Nichelle Nichols or George Takei's likenesses, so get ready for White Uhura and Black Sulu!
They didn't have the rights to The Animated Series either, so M'Ress is a human with weird face paint and Arex is substituted for just some guy
There's an unlicensed Chinese adaptation of The Motion Picture's novelisation (made with zero prior knowledge of Star Trek), which features an all-star cast like O.J. Simpson as Decker and James Brolin as Kirk. It's called The Star Trek, which is a better name than The Motion Picture, IMHO.
DC comics' first run is considered some of the best Trek ever. They're made with love and a deep knowledge of the source material
You know how Star Trek III takes place right after II? WRONG. It was several months later and the crew (with Saavik taking over from Spock) had tons of adventures in the interim. It just seemed like it was right after😂
Before Worf and long long before Ash Tyler, Kirk had a Klingon on his crew
He was a cowardly Klingon named Konom who fled the Empire
He fell in love with a human woman named Bryce
They adopted an albino Klingon/human child with dwarfism which they named Bernie
Kirk has an unhinged, insubordinate crewman on board named Bearclaw and they hate each other
Tension escalates and eventually there's a stabbing
Sulu/M'Ress happens and I don't think people knew what furrys were in the 80's
You know how Spock comes back at the end of III but isn't his old self until the end of Star Trek IV? WRONG AGAIN. He came back just fine, and lost his marbles following an incident months later that just happened to line everything up to make it all seem like it was right after.
After STIII, Kirk becomes captain of the U.S.S. Excelsior NX-2000 and Spock becomes captain of the U.S.S. Surak. We get a few issues exclusively focusing on Spock's ship and his band of merry weirdos.
The U.S.S. Surak keeps changing design, starting off as a sort of Oberth-class ship, then randomly becoming an Excelsior-class ship and finally ending as the warp sled shuttlecraft from The Motion Picture
The Surak's crew include a giant chicken man, a Vulcan hating racist lady and a balding man with a bicycle
They all die horribly and a massive reset button is pressed so everyone is exactly where they were at the end of Star Trek III
In order to make that work they had to bs that the Klingon Bird of Prey was hidden in Excelsior's shuttlebay all this time despite it being way, way too big for that
There's a full on mirror universe invasion
Kirk becomes a celebrity from saving the galaxy all the time
Mr. Arex comes back and becomes chief of security but doesn't really do much
HORTA CREWMEMBER. It's as amazing as it sounds
The first Next Generation comic miniseries was made with knowledge of the first 2 or 3 TNG episodes and nothing else
Everyone is hench as fuck. Picard has washboard abs and bulging muscles
Data is emotional and Troi feels the emotions she senses a la "Encounter at Farpoint"
Wesley is drawn as if he's 10
The B-shift con and ops team are a husband and wife who wear caped superhero versions of Starfleet uniforms with bare legs.
They argue. A lot.
The crew meet an alien Santa Claus and Q loses his powers years before "Deja Q"
The whole Q Continuum visits the Enterprise and they're all John De Lancie but in Starfleet uniforms of every colour under the sun.
After that initial miniseries, the Next Gen crew lose a lot of their muscle mass and start resembling their on screen counterparts a lot better
Picard had a brother who fell down a hole and died as a child. Q offers to rewrite history so he doesn't die. Claude Picard grew up to be Space Superhitler and turns Starfleet and the Federation fascist.
Before all this Q turned Jean-Luc into a goat for the lolz
Marvel's The Early Voyages was very literally Strange New Worlds before Strange New Worlds.
They have a pyrokinetic security officer named Nano and he's awesome
Marvel lost the Trek license quite suddenly, and so the series ends on a cliffhanger where Admiral April is up to something iffy.
Marvel did a Starfleet Academy series featuring Nog and its utterly fantastic
A female Andorian cadet tries to make Nog feel at ease by greeting him in the nude, but Nog fails to take it as an innocent gesture and she immediately sends him flying across the room
Romulan agents with split personalities in Starfleet Academy!
They visit Talos IV and get help from Captain Pike, who's still alive
IDW comics did a prequel to the 2009 reboot where Picard is an ambassador, Data is captain of the Enterprise-E and Nero has hair. It was co-written by the movie writers and was considered sort of vaguely semi canon ish for a time
They originally wanted the Romulan supernova to destroy a lot more, including Earth and have Nero kill the TNG crew. It was the Star Trek Online devs that got them to scale things back because they'd have no universe left to set their game in.
Nero's ship looks like it does because after Romulus was destroyed he took it to a secret Romulan base and had it equipped with reverse-engineered Borg technology
You thought DC struggled to keep ship designs correct? IDW's comics keep using traced fan art from Google Images, and fan art (sometimes with unique ship designs) has shown up on multiple occasions as the Kelvinverse U.S.S. Enterprise
In one IDW TOS comic, the bridge is totally covered with TNG LCARS graphics.
In another, an Orion ship is a gigantic Stargate sticking out of the middle part of Battlestar Galactica.
Wanna see Kelvinverse versions of TOS episodes? That was their first comics run, picking up after the 2009 reboot movie. They start off very faithful and as the series goes on things diverge more and more
To the extent some stories have very different backstories and outcomes
We visit 2 Kelvin mirror universes and a genderswapped universe too. No, Kirk doesn't do what you're thinking.
Q visits the Kelvin Universe and brings the crew forward in time to their version of Deep Space Nine
Nero's time in Klingon prison (from the Star Trek 2009 deleted scenes) and escape is fleshed out
Nero meets V'ger.
Nero mind melds with V'ger.
V'ger turns away due to the sheer force of Nero's hatred.
I wish I was making that up.
Klingons get their hands on Narada's technology and go to war
We get a Khan backstory where the Eugenics Wars are a full on nuclear conflict and "Khan" is the title that little Noon Sing adopts when he takes power
After being revived in the 23rd century, Admiral Marcus has Khan surgically altered to look like Benedict Cumberbatch as part of his John Harrison cover identity
They did a series of shorts called Waypoint, and in the first one Geordi is captain of a future Enterprise and his crew is made up of holographic versions of Data and it's a really sweet concept (this was several years before before ST: Picard brought Data back twice)
There's a prequel series centred around Number One where nobody manages to say her name before being interrupted. If you put the bits together it seems her name was Eureka Robbins. Of course, this is long before novels and SNW made her Una Chin-Riley.
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One of the things that's really gotten under my skin about Picard--and, to various extents, the Kurtzman era in general--is how lazy some of the class names are.
In the 25th century, we have the Constitution III/neo-Constitution class (e.g., the Titan-A) and the Excelsior II class. In the 32nd century, we have another generation of Constitution-class, probably the Constitution X at that point or something, and a new generation of Intrepid-class.
At least for the 32nd century ships, it makes sense. This is a heavily weakened Federation and Starfleet that's trying to lean into a more prosperous past, and that's on its way to rebuilding that former strength. Having things like new starship classes reuse older class names makes sense in that context: they're setting the standard they're hoping new officers will live up to, and they're tapping into some proud memory of how things were. It's the same reason they have an Archer Spacedock instead of naming it after a far more recent historical figure, basically.
This logic doesn't work for the 25th century's Constitution III or Excelsior II classes. This isn't a Starfleet at its weakest point. This is a Starfleet that, in the previous thirty years, had won the Dominion War (2375), struck a good, hard blow against the Borg that probably crippled them for a while (2378), and the destruction of their oldest enemies, the Romulans (2387). From a strictly military point of view, the Federation and Starfleet in the beginning of the 25th century is likely to be in the strongest position it's ever been in.
While there had been upsets like the Romulan infiltration from Picard's first season and the current Changeling infiltration, it's not like Starfleet has ever been free from alien infiltration. TNG had its own alien infiltration in Conspiracy, and DS9 had its own paranoia over potential Changeling paranoia--particularly prominent in Homefront/Paradise Lost, but it was a part of the buildup to the Dominion War at large. Given how in Voyager, Seska had been able to disguise her Cardassian heritage for years, some level of alien infiltration is probably expected in most of the major powers' military services, even if they aren't happy about it.
To me, what makes this tendency lazy isn't actually whether or not it's defensible from an in-universe perspective, though. It's because it's a tacit acknowledgement of a broader world-building question I've had for a while, but it doesn't actually give a solid answer.
The question is when does a starship class become a distinct class instead of just being a new variant? The Kurtzman era's answer is apparently just to gesture vaguely and say, "Dunno; just whenever the previous generation gets too old, I guess." This is an unsatisfying answer because it ignores that previously, the answer seemed to be a lot more nuanced than that.
In TNG's Cause and Effect, we're introduced to the Soyuz-class, which is visually so similar to the Miranda-class that you'd be forgiven for thinking they might be the same class. In dialogue, it's mentioned that the Soyuz-class was retired at some point in the 2280s, while the Miranda-class would remain in service until at least the 2370s.
Later on in DS9, one of the mashup ships that appeared in the background of some of the big fleet shots was the Yeager-type. Keep in mind that this was considered a type and not a class in its own right. It was a subclass of the Intrepid-class (the original, not the 32nd century version) that had the regular saucer section but an engineering section that resembled that of a Maquis raider.
So the Kurtzman era's solution to the question--that is, to try to wave it away--doesn't actually resolve the core issue. If anything, it actually causes the issue to become more complex.
In PIC's The Bounty, during the scene at the starship museum where Seven and Jack are seeing which ships he recognises and which he doesn't, Jack identifies the Enterprise-A as being a Constitution II-class. This is the TOS movie era version of the Constitution-class that most people who have a thing for Star Trek ships have been referring to as the Constitution refit for the last several decades.
Therein lies why this is now a more complicated question. Yes, the refit Constitution was visually very different from the original version from the show, and even in-universe, Will Decker (the captain in The Motion Picture) refers to this version as almost being a brand-new ship. However, I feel like almost should be the operative word there: even though this was a major refit, there was never the intent for this to basically be a brand-new starship class, despite what the Kurtzman era writers might have to say.
Plus, you know, there's still the question of what kind of refit makes it a brand new starship class. Clearly the kind of refit that might make a Constitution-class like the Strange New Worlds version of the Enterprise into something resembling how it looks in the original series or like the New Jersey doesn't count.
But also, neither does the kind of modifications the original Excelsior-class undertook that made the Enterprise-B look a little bit different to the original Excelsior. Or, apparently, the refit that the Lakota underwent in Homefront/Paradise Lost that gave it the kind of firepower to go toe-to-toe with the Defiant (which Chief O'Brien refers to as being unusual).
Honestly, I'm not sure if this era of Trek writers even has a solid answer to the question. They may want to be seen to have an answer, but I don't think it's one they've spent a lot of time considering. That's an unfortunate thing, given the fact they've decided that the Titan-A, a Constitution III-class, should be the hero ship for this final season of Picard.
I know this is a bit of a weird thing to have a bee in my bonnet about, but this has always kinda been one of the gaps in Star Trek's world building when it comes to starship design. I'd just like for there to be a solid answer to this that isn't stupid, given how there apparently is one in universe.
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The “flathead 45” motor had Harley-Davidson’s longest production run, from 1929 to ’73, in all sorts of guises, from roadster WL’s, racing WR’s, military WLA’s, and longest of all, the Servi-Car trike.
With an estimated 50,000 45′s built during World War II alone, there was a seemingly endless supply available for every kind of use and abuse in the second half of the 20th century. Not many survived into the 21st century in un-chopped, un-bobbed and unmodified condition, as we find with this lovely machine.
Harley-Davidson was late to the game with its first 45 CI model when it was playing catch-up to the popular Excelsior Super X and Indian 101 Scout. The 45 gained a stronger frame and engine improvements like larger flywheels, aluminum pistons and better oiling in 1932.
Five years later, more changes to the 45 line resulted in the Model W of 1937, which proved a stone reliable workhorse machine with a four-cam timing chest that made the W ripe for tuning. The Model W and its variants proved perfect for Class C racing, which allowed only cataloged machines of 45 CI (or OHV bikes of 500cc).
Late 1930s Model Ws were home-tuned across the U.S., and Harley-Davidson offered racing models like the WLRD and WR, which proved to be the mainstay of Class C racing for more than a decade. The Model W’s longevity had much to do with its simplicity of design and heavy-duty construction; the flathead W is often mistaken for a Big Twin, as it shares styling with its larger 74 CI and 80 CI brothers.
This final-year 1952 (titled as a ’53 with G Model cases) Harley-Davidson WL is a landmark machine. It’s rare enough being an original bike, with all-original fenders, tanks and more, but the 1952 Model WL is the last year of the original, non-unit-construction 45, which was replaced by the unit-construction Model K that same year.
This bike was comprehensively restored 200 miles ago, with a full engine and transmission rebuild, re-spoked wheels and more; today, it’s ready for more years of enjoyment of this ultra-reliable and sweet model.
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1941 HARLEY-DAVIDSON W 45CI FLATHEAD!
Harley-Davidson was late to market with its new 45 CI flathead Model D, introduced in 1929 to combat the exceptional popularity of Excelsior’s Super X and especially Indian’s remarkable 101 Scout.
The Model D was regularly improved in line with the rest of Harley-Davidson’s range, gaining a stronger frame in 1932 and numerous engine improvements including larger flywheels, aluminum pistons and better oiling, which warranted a name change to become the Model R that year. Five years later, yet more changes to the 45 CI line resulted in the Model W of 1937, which proved a stone reliable workhorse machine, hiding four camshafts inside its timing chest. Those individual cams made the W ripe for tuning, and it proved perfect for use in the new Class C racing, which allowed only catalogued machines of 45 CI (or OHV bikes of 500cc). Late 1930s Model Ws are rare, as home tuners across the U.S. worked their skills on the W and its variants: the WL, WR and WRLD models.
The continued use of Class C rules for AMA-sanctioned racing into the 1950s meant the Model W stayed in the Harley-Davidson catalog through 1952, while its engine remained in production through 1973 in the Servi-Car. The Model W’s longevity had much to do with its simplicity of design and heavy-duty construction; the flathead W is often mistaken for a “Big Twin” as it shares styling with its larger 74 CI and 80 CI brothers. The W is easy to tune and even easier to maintain in standard tune, and the WLA military version—“A” for Army—earned the nickname “the Liberator” in World War II. 1941 Harley-Davidson Model WLD is a rare machine, as only 302 Model W’s were manufactured that year, with the high-compression Model D Sport Solo variant being the least common. Within a few years, the flathead 45 CI would be built in the tens of thousands annually in preparation for World War II, but unmolested early civilian models are hard to find.
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"243- Special Presentation- The Excelsior II Class (Space Engine)" を YouTube で見る
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"Renewed Chase"
A recreation of a classic scene from Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, but with the new Constitution and Excelsior-Classes of the 25th century.
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The Greater Experiment by Jetfreak-7
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The Starships Enterprise - art by Thomas Marrone
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The USS ATLAS NX-75013 was a protoytype in Medium Type Design of Starships with most parts from the Excelsior-II hull and a new secondary hull attached known as shuttle and fighter bays. In each starboard and portside bays are 192x fighters, 96x Boarding shuttles and 96x Medical Shuttles.
The USS MIDWAY NCC-4301-B was another ship of the Atlas Class but had another hull attachment which connects both shuttle bays or support. On this new hull has a FWD, AFT Torpedoes bays and computer controlled Phase Turrets on the starboard and portside of the hull. The Midway Class has the same compliments as the original Atlas Class Starship, 192x Fighters, 96x Boarding Shuttles and 96x Medical shuttles.
The USS TIRPITZ NCC-1250-C had also a new hull above the ship but closer to the saucer section as a FWD, AFT Torpedoes bay with Warp field stablizer wings attached to the portside and starboard hull. This Nimitz Class supports her battle group in any like the histoical moments of WWII, the Battle of Midway. Withe the same amounts of shuttles and fighter which her sister ships have.
The USS LIGHTNING NCC-67219-C had a redesigned blueprint from Mars Shipyards S-A-5's Designing Station of constructing anothet shuttle bay on top and within a torpedoes bay only facing FWD. Starfleet Command was intrested in this design because in it's new shuttle bays are the 48x new state of the art fighters for future use. The Sword Class was updated and brought into the 24th Century for the Dominion Wars and several engagements involving Borg and Romulan battles. The Sword Class has more fighters than her sister ships for Tactical Missions and Invasions, even this starship would be under command by one of Starfleet's finest Captains and Commanders.
Starship Chart © SR71ALPHA / Kevin Sean Morrow 13/07/2012
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Excelsior II class U.S.S. Excelsior NCC-42037, from Doug Drexler's Artstation.
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