Thank you @anotherkindofmindpod for another great series. 💕
I really appreciate your willingness to look beyond established narratives and to do so with empathy, intelligence and humour.
Listening to ep. 3 of A Mistake In Many Ways, which explores the deeply dysfunctional communications of our favourite dynamic duo, I was reminded of the two anecdotes below… each, in their way, rather telling.
1. John’s ESP. (Hmmn.)
“If Paul is really, really hurt by [‘How Do You Sleep’], I'll know by the vibes coming around, even if he doesn't call. I'll explain it to him, I'll even write to him, if he really, really thinks it's really, really serious.” [My emphasis] (John Lennon, September 1971)
Source: https://pizzaandfairytales.tumblr.com/post/48118123500/if-paul-is-really-really-hurt-by-it-ill-know
My takeaway from this is that, amazingly, despite the ocean of acrimony (and the literal ocean) between them, John Lennon was still convinced in the autumn of 1971 that he could read Paul McCartney’s mind!
In a way, it’s quite sweet. You might have thought that John would have fallen back on the usual post-breakup cliches, e.g., “who knows what’s in that guy’s head? / I don’t even know him anymore / I thought I knew him…” etc. But no.
This leads me to wonder, do you think John ever considered if Paul was “really, really hurt” by other stuff (including, for instance, the divorce meeting)?
And what on earth did he mean by the vibes? 🔮 (A word from Mal? A letter from Linda? ‘Here, There and Everywhere’ coming on the radio? 😉)
Either way, I would echo whoever suggested that John’s belief in their shared telepathy was a significant part of the problem. As he eventually admitted in ‘I Know (I Know)’, “I never could read your mind.”
2. Paul has feelings. (Honest.)
‘Iris Caldwell [Paul’s ex] remembered an interesting incident in connection with the song [‘Yesterday’]. She had broken up with Paul in March 1963 ... and, when he later called up to speak to Iris, her mother told Paul that her daughter didn't want to speak to him because he had no feelings. Two and a half years later, on Sunday August 1, 1965, Paul was scheduled to sing ‘Yesterday’ on a live television programme, Blackpool Night Out. During that week, he phoned Mrs Caldwell and said, ‘’You know that you said that I had no feelings? Watch the telly on Sunday and then tell me that I've got no feelings.’’’ [My emphasis]
Source: A Hard Day’s Write: The Stories Behind Every Beatles' Song, Steve Turner (1994).
Honestly, this is heartbreaking. 💔 And definitely a pattern of behaviour imho.
Paul doesn’t feel nothing; he feels everything (but beneath a mask of indifference or even flippancy). And the sadness is that the mask fits.
It’s the “laughing in the face of love” charge, isn’t it?
And Paul is so wounded by the accusation that he is still brooding on it and trying (however problematically) to set it right, *two and a half years* later.
With this in mind, I’m struck by the number of interviews in the 70s in which Paul insists that he is not *really* hurt by the breakup / Lennon Remembers / HDYS etc. It’s cool, everything’s fine, I’m fine, rather enjoyed it actually.
And then, in the 80s: of course I was fucking devastated, what the hell do you people take me for?! 😭
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Anyway, I would *love* to know your thoughts on any or all of the above… and (especially) whether you believe that John sent that letter in ’71.
I really, really hope he did.
But I doubt it.
*goes on hoping*
Love this so much! ❤️ Nothing to add EXCEPT:
John definitely did send Paul a letter in late 1971 (and convinced Ray Connolly to hand-deliver it)! Unfortunately we don't know the contents of the letter, but hopefully it was full of apologies and love!
See excerpt below from Tom Doyle's Man on the Run:
Listen to AKOM here
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I'm slightly insane about how in Intermezzo, Kayne basically set John up for the bait. He made a lot of comments about John's mistakes, lies, how he fell back into his old ways and basically became like the King in Yellow again. That he didn't want Arthur to know that, because he knows if Arthur knew, he'd lose him.
He cares about Arthur so much. All that time in the dark world, all the time being stuck and reverting back to old habit, *but he still remembered Arthur and wanted to go back to him*.
And John sees how Arthur is treating him because of his memory, he sees how Arthur is relating to other people, and their snappiness and impatience with each other, and then Kayne gives him the choice to get rid of Arthur's memory.
Saying YES. Because he doesn't want to lose Arthur's relationship and wants it to be good.
God they are both such messes. Arthur has made so many fuck ups and mistakes, and so has John, and their friendship makes me very unwell.
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“I always felt the split was a mistake in many ways.” -John Lennon, 1976.
In this series, Phoebe and Daphne will argue that the breakup of the Beatles was an accident, the result of insecurity, hurt feelings and misread signals. Backed by rigorous research, we’ll analyze the events between September 1969 and April 1970 with probity, thoughtfulness and empathy.
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Episode One will examine the divorce meeting that triggers the six-month-long standoff between John & Paul. We'll discuss Paul’s reactions, both in the moment and over the following week. We’ll also dissect some striking statements from John in a revealing interview he gives just days after the divorce meeting.
Listen here (or wherever you get your podcasts!)
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idle clone^2 food for thought (cw gun tw murder) and. thinking about how danny in canon is very protective of his people. and as a collective fanon we like to make him go Batshit when his people are severely injured.
and im just mmmmm,,,,, danny would kill if damian (or anyone in his family) got extremely hurt. but only under very specific circumstances. like they've been backed up into a corner and can't get out and it's either kill or be killed. like his go-to is non-lethal force but then someone takes out his little brother, whose breathing but not getting up and hurt badly, and there's nowhere for them to escape and these guys are gonna do much worse soon.
but there's a gun nearby and within danny's reach, and the guys who have them trapped are gloating and only half-paying attention because what are they going to do now? they have him trapped.
and they hurt his little brother.
and danny doesn't see red. everything just goes into cold, static focus instead. and he puts a bullet through the stomach of the first guy he sees.
And i'm just picturing Danny with this stone cold fury on his face, his hands shaking, as he looks the main guy (who know he's a clone) in the eye and says "your first mistake was thinking i'm batman"
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There's a certain CCCC summary video that we really, really like. We think it is a great video for people if they want to grasp the story more clearly, if they're confused, or if they're listening to the album for the first time.
That video being Chonny Jash and the Weight of the Mind on Youtube by W3tBl@nk3t. We think they cover it really well.
However, I'm sharing this for a different reason; they say few certain things that really struck with us until now, that I'd like to share with the fandom. Sometimes, we see people really just.. Miss the point of CCCC entirely, and I'd like to shine a light on what was said here. If you'd like to hear this for yourself on video, the timestamp is 35:57-36:45.
“..I bet we all could relate to that, they are the prime example of the side of you that suffers and the side of you that hates yourself for suffering:
The side of you that just wants to slow down and feel everything even to the unhealthy extent of not being able to do anything else(1), but also the side of you that so desperately wants you to get over it(2).
Sure, laying in bed all day every day to rot isn't healthy, but neither is boiling things down and invalidating your own emotions. Both are paths to inevitable disaster, and that's what Chonny is doing here. Keep in mind that the idea behind this album is being whole, and that means neither of these sides are entirely in the right or the wrong; this album is about inner compromise and acceptance(3).”
1.) The side of you that suffers; Heart.
He is representative of Whole's emotions, he holds them. Your emotions can go haywire, especially when one's mentally ill and has no way of their feelings being validated. An emotional person like Heart suffers under the weight of crushing, devastating feelings. He wants to feel things out, have time to just process everything, even if it takes them days or weeks to get over it. It's not healthy, but feeling is what he does, and he wants to help because he knows he has importance. Solely focusing on just your emotions isn't the best thing to do, however.
2.) The side of you that so desperately wants you to get over it; Mind.
Many people have been there, have wanted themselves to stop wallowing in their own emotions and just do something else, even to the point where you think feeling things out is unnecessary. This is also unhealthy, but not intentionally. Like Heart, Mind just wants to help, everything he does is in best interest. This is what he thinks will get them to move on the quickest; to leave behind emotions and focus on anything BUT that. Also not the best thing to do.
3.) This album is about inner compromise and acceptance; About being whole.
Neither of Heart and Mind are right nor wrong. They have their own ways of doing things, of what they think will help their whole self out the most, but both are unhealthy despite the good intentions. They fight over who's wrong or right, when they shouldn't even be doing so in the first place. It's your thoughts against your emotions, basically; your feelings contradict your thoughts, and it leads to an inner war of sorts. This won't make things better, which is why you can't have Mind over Heart or vice versa; you'll need both of them. In the album, they are only able to be whole when they get along. They harmonize, they 'combine', they see eye to eye with each other and work together instead of fighting over and over. Inner compromise is achieved with this, and acceptance can lead them away from any disaster that there's to come.
What we're trying to say is that mental health is a large thing tackled within CCCC, and yet we see a lot of people who overlook it; thus, end up missing the point of the whole album. We see a lot of people believe Mind's perspective a little too much and treat Heart quite harshly, or the other way where people demonize Mind and say that Heart is perfect, when it's not really that in the slightest.
This is not a hate post towards people's interpretations of CCCC or how they view characters, I'm just saying that people can tend to overlook what's in the very narrative, and we see a concerning amount of people do such.
Anyways. Stream CCCC and put your Hearts and Minds in the get along shirt. Have a nice day.
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