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Today in Disney Channel History...

The Jersey season 1, episode 16 “Take Me Out of the Ball Game” premiered on Disney Channel (29 April, 2000)

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Muintir O'Shannon

In Strangeling (s1e8) we're introduced to "Munitir".

When Fi says the Strangeling spell, the last line is "in ainm muintir O’Sianhan.”

Roughly translated it's "in the name of family O'Shannon."

"Muintir has a wide range of meanings including family, household, community, kin. It speaks not only of your immediate relatives, but the wider groups of people from whom you descend by virtue of ancestry..." - University of Limerick Ollscoil Luimnigh

The word appears again in season two.

First, on the crest when Fi follows the banshee.

The translation, again, is "Family O'Shannon".

The events of Strangeling and Banshee affected Fi deeply because we see at the end of Vampire that she uses their common language as her password.

According to an online dictionary and language library, "muintir" can be pronounced at least three different ways and depends on the province you're in/someone is from.

Fi is American so her Irish-Gaelic accent doesn't really exist.

I did rewatch the Strangeling scenes (the first time she recites the spell and later when she repeats it in hopes to reverse it), and I *think* her pronunciation sounds closest to the Connacht dialect.

That could just be phonetics, but maybe that's how Grandma Kathleen taught her?

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Today in Disney Channel History...

The Jersey season 1, episode 15 “Elliot and Goliath” premiered on Disney Channel (15 April, 2000)

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The dragon's view of Fi in Strangeling

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Details from So Weird's Strangeling (s1e8)

The Macbeth promo poster.

Irene taking control of the bus.

Aunt Maggie in costume.

Molly disagreeing with Fi.

Hugs with Ned.

Sir Jack on stage.

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Angel Angles:

Fi's monologue of the episode // So Weird's opening credits

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Random Details from So Weird’s Angel (s1e7)

Ohio's welcome sign.

Gabe's angel necklace.

The different reactions (and not) as the family hears Irene's news.

Fi confronting Gabe.

A shot that was frequently used in Disney promos. Can you imagine Disney Channel showing this nowadays?

Concerning looks after Fi went to the light.

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Some parallels between Walter Rutledge and Fi Phillips in Sacrifice.

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Random Details from So Weird's Simplicity (s1e6)

Clu pulling the chair out for his mom to sit down.

Tad Raxall's office building.

The return of Fi's magnetometer that first appeared in Family Reunion and hasn't been seen since then.

Clu and Fi's height difference is adorable.

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Posters promoting the launch of So Weird.

Not sure why they were folded or how they were given out. They look to be the same size and according to the original eBay listing the first one is 41 inches by 27 inches.

"They're pretty big. I have movie posters this big." - forum user, Gabby who won the eBay auction 10 years ago.

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Today in Disney Channel History...

The Jersey season 1, episode 14 “The Girlfriend” premiered on Disney Channel (25 March, 2000)

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Since you've been posting about Banshee, I wanted to ask, what do you think of the ending? I was always confused as to why they let the Grandfather live, until I found out that, in the original script, Fi apparently trades years of her life for him. Personally I am glad they didn't show that. I get that Fi loves her Grandfather, but a 13 year old trading years of her life for an old man is not what I call a happy ending.

The final scene with Molly telling her parents bye and Grandpa reassuring her she’s welcome back and loves her is great. The ending with the Banshee (Fi’s feet touching ground and Jack finding her cold on the ground to her telling Grandpa everything will be okay), is underwhelming on face value imo.  

Without the original ending, one accepted theory about Colin living that’s floated through the So Weird community is – and apologies if you’re familiar with it already, but I’ll lay out the details for anyone who hasn’t heard it - Molly singing in her ancestors'/father’s native language, where the witch bloodline comes from, triggers something powerful/magical.  

When Molly sings

“Illin sha

Ma herrin fain

Lie-la-lie-la-lie”

her ring lights up, so does Fi’s, Fi’s feet touch ground again, and before the song is over we learn Colin is going to live.

The idea is that Fi fighting for her grandfather, not coincidentally after Grandpa told Molly SHE wasn’t a fighter, and Molly being open to something she often struggles with (her Irish/witch lineage/love for her father) created what we’ll see again in Vampire with Jack and Gabe’s necklace.

In that episode Fi explains it as, “Maybe it wasn’t about the angel itself. Maybe it was about what’s between Jack and Gabe… only love is stronger than evil.”

And Jon Cooksey also said there was a mystical connection between the rings (page 22 of the FAQ).

Mystical ring connections + Two (really three!) generations of witches in close proximity and caring for Colin simultaneously = His safety from Death who is getting closer every day.

But, like you said, without the original script it’s unclear what exactly happened. Even the fan theory is only an attempt to fill a plot hole.

Between the show and notes, Fi’s age is anywhere from 13 to 15 depending on the episode. I think even at 16 that’s still too young to make a decision like the original script has, especially since the trade is vague.

Like, how many is “some of my years”?? And in the original script and final cut of the episode the banshee's "Your grandfather will not die... for now" is ominous too.

There are countless stories where Death keeps its word but still gets what it originally intended.

What's the conversion rate for a young girl's life to an elderly man? Is Grandpa Colin safe for another year? Three? Will Grandma Kathleen be taken instead?

Also, if not for the Phillips trio visiting the grandparents, they wouldn’t have known about the banshee and Fi couldn't have tried to save him. 🤔

So whether it was years off her life or a spell, Fi's presence seems to be what really saved Grandpa Colin - unless Grandma Kathleen had some tricks up her sleeve.

Thanks for the question! You always ask great ones.

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TLDR: I like the Banshee ending we got because we can use the show’s lore and other episodes to guess what happened to save Grandpa Colin. It’s not exactly canon, but neither is the original script.

And even though making sacrifices is in character, I agree that no matter Fi's age in the show, her choice isn't sound for different reasons other than her age (like how many years would Death take from Fi, why would Death make a trade over Rick's loss that wasn't related, Death could still get what it wants at the sacrifice of someone else, seems more powerful story-wise if the O'Shannon women "beat" Death with witchcraft than make a deal, etc.)

#just my opinion #ymmv #what's your opinion on this fellow weirdos? #I'm really curious #share share share #thanks to Emily for the gifs #banshee #so weird #answered #so weird disney #disney so weird #zoog disney #witches #banshees #tw death #witchcraft

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Today in Disney Channel History...

The Jersey series finale, season 3, episode 24 “What’s Gotten Into Elliot Rifkin?”, premiered on Disney Channel (23 March, 2004)

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Can anyone translate this for me?

Irish fans, I need help.

Illin sha Ma herrin fain La-lie-lie-lie

#the rock

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So Weird - Celtic and Irish Influence Requested by liesellisabeth

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So Weird Problems

When someone mentions how much they love The Rock.

They’re thinking:

You’re thinking:

The Rock forged my spirit

The Rock was my anchor

The Rock held me fast through the storms of my youth

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So Weird - “Banshee”