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the intimacy of having your efforts reciprocated in the same intensity and with the same tenderness

#quotes

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How do we tell the sea that we are drowning on land?

#arabic poetry #literature

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#poetry #spilled thoughts

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Go ahead and screenshot this as a hater post to hate me for but whenever people romanticize Rhaegar/Lyanna/Jon as a family, I’m thrilled he was actually raised by Ned with Robb, Sansa, Arya, Bran, & Rickon.

This doesn’t apply to people who romanticize Lyanna & Jon as a family because I do that too 🫶

Just the idea of R&L being a happy family with Jon is actually infuriating when you remember that Rhaegar’s first family has to brutally die for that *dream to thrive* along with Lyanna’s brother and father.

#elia martell #rhaegar targaryen #lyanna stark #asoiaf

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lyanna might have died in a room that smelled of blood and roses but elia martell died alone in a room full of enemies, having witnessed the death of her children and the betrayal of her husband. she died and no one described how the room smelled cause no one cared.

#elia deserved better #anti rhaegar #anti grrm #lyanna isn't faultless #anti rhaegar x lyanna

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anecdote of the pig, tory adkisson // achilles & partoclus // house of dragon, 1x07 // plainwater, anne carson // the truth about forever, sarah dessen // lighthousekeeping, jeanette winterson

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Lyanna Stark carries some blame too!

Warning: This is not to hate on her, nor I'm denying that she was a young girl and to some degree MAY have been fooled. This is about accountability first and second her genius fans and the shippers

I literally talked to several people here who ships her with Rhaegar and they were ones who have posts that have most likes over discussions about them as I have seen so far and very clever takes that break down every argument as other Rhaegar and Lyanna fans claim. And I swear to god the amount of cope and stupid theories they say is ridiculous. Like all long posts and literally nothing!

My only regret is how I didn't take screenshots of their very clever arguments. All of them ended up deleting my comments when they couldn't reply and was hurt by me saying that Rhaegar could have very possibly liked Elia in Romantic way to some extent and that copmplex realtionship doesn't necessarily mean there was no love or attraction.

Apparently now we are liars and don't care about Elia and just want to shit on Rhaegar and Lyanna and if we truly liked her we'd want her to be a woman who never loved Rhaegar at all.

Not even a little feeling to the man, she agreed to risk her life for him and his prophecy no. We should say according to them that she did that to stabilize her position as future queen and mother of the next heir who eats, drinks and sleeps peacefully and that is more feminist as they MOCKED than her being hurt by Rhaegar (Rhaegar who is said to be very charming to all women but apparently he never charmed Elia according to their little hearts that refuse to accept there might have been something of romance between her and Rhaegar) .

Them: Like, what do you mean she would mind seeing her husband love another girl more after she did everything for him?😡 That's very not good interpretation and characterization of Elia. She should only care about her position! oh! She is the victim of her mother's AMbiTIOns

AND! Her liking Rhaegar and risking her life to give him children makes her weak!

Trasnslation: I can't accept her liking Rhaegar, or this will make the asshole prince I ship myself with as a self-insert of Lyanna more asshole and unlikable to others So Elia must never like Rhaegar in order for my ship to work! Let's work hard on making people believe this is the only possible scenario AND the only way for Elia to be strong good character otherwise she is weak silly girl if she loved her charismatic husband so my ship can sail!

That's the true strong woman and we Elia-fans are just bunch of haters and don't really like her and we are the actual misogynist for not saying she never liked Rhaegar and for not loving their GIrl BoSS lyanan stark.

No, I don't ship Rhaegar and Elia. I'm just stating a very possible scenario. I really don't do ships. I simply like Elia.

As for Lyanna....

Yes, Lyanna carries some blame, too, in case she knew of Rhaegar's plan and agreed to it and went willingly. You don't get to tell me that I shouldn't blame her because most blame falls on men and she was young?????

Like make it make sense. To what extent could your age protect you from accountability when you hurt others? Since when is being young give you the right to escape accountability? How else do you make sure that they don't turn out nasty?

Her escaping Robert and her eloping with married man EVEN in a scenario where Elia agreed are two different things that don't connect. (Elia would never agree happily. In such a scenario, she has no choice because of the prophecy.), it doesn't delete her mistakes. It simply makes her less guilty.

Reminder! She didn't escape until Rhaegar appeared. This may mean she never intended to escape until she fell in love with this married charismatic prince charming even in a scenario where she was a greenseer and saw her and Rhaegar are a MUst Be. They still ignored many things like others' safety for unsure prophecy.

Her story is so much more than just her age.

You all just ignore everything to make her look like nothing but a victim.

I had one tell me we shouldn't blame her because of the girl's girl and because men take most blame in her story??? Yes, they do, and??? Is that how we deal with women's mistakes now? As long as the biggest culprit is a man and you are young, you are free from accountability?

If this is what a girl's girl means now, then I'm not a girl's girl.

And guess what? Yes, I blame her to some degree and don't hate her. Yes, I definitely don't see her as likable but definitely not evil, and I know many of you don't accept these things mixed, but like or not they do with me and with many others who are silent about it because they don't want to be called ridiculous for disliking young girl. But not me. I don't mind.

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So someone on tt is tryna sit there are tell me that somehow GRRM writing constant pain porn is okay? I have by no means read all of his works and I never plan to but from the ones I have read, it's so blatantly obvious?

They're saying that because historically, women, specifically in medieval monarchy, had it bad (for lack of better words) that makes GRRM writing almost every single one of his female characters to be brutalized okay? No?

I truly hate to break it to yall, but ASIOAF is fictional. It's not real. There's dragons and magic and little tree people and giants and zombies and shit, but somehow, some way, it *needs* to be realistic in the sense of sexual assault? These people feel entitled to reading about women being...well, everything 70% of GRRMs female characters have gone through?

They tried to say I wasn't seeing it and that in reality this stuff happens...like I know. I've been SA'd. I don't want to read constant pain porn, but for some reason YOU DO?? Why're you so interested in that shit.

And GRRM doesn't even do it to bring awareness or anything along those lines, it's like he just enjoys writing it.

I'm not saying stop writing about rape completely, I'm not saying it's not an important topic to write about but the way GRRM does it just isn't needed. You can write medieval fantasy without constant rape. It's possible. It's been done. I promise the trauma porn isn't necessary.

Pick up F&B or smth like every woman in that book was groomed, raped, or SA'd in some way. It's disgusting.

#anti grrm #asoiaf #grrm criticism #grr martin #a song of ice and fire #grrm critical

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When I read Rhaelya's stans take on how much we who talk about Elia are so awful for making Elia nothing but a victim when she was definitely more than that, I feel like vomiting.

How selfish, cruel, and pitiful can a person be?

Because when you ask them what Elia could have possible been the answer is always either whoring around or was too awesome and progressive to care at all for how she was used as baby machine because she was going to be Queen and she wanted to stabilize her position.

And that appearantly a very cool personality and characterization.

I know a lot of people have no brain, but sometimes, heart and humanity help.

But I guess it's nothing compared to getting smooched by a man who left his family in danger for more than a year while he was having joy at a tower he named Joy.

Like I get it. You can't get prince charming out of your head but why not stay silent and just dream about it or go to talk to him in bots instead of telling the world of how cruel, jealous and nasty you can be because you don't want anyone to stand between you and your fictional perfect man? Why can't you like your awful man in silence without degrading Elia and hiding behind the perfect logic fan facade?

Why is being cruel and jealous is the only way about it? Why can't you like him like a normal person?

Disgusting. You really have no reason to do that.

#elia martell #anti rhaegar #anti rhaegar x lyanna #lyanna isn't faultless #anti rhaelya stans #lyanna stark #rhaegar targaryen #elia deserves better #a song of ice and fire #game of thrones #asoiaf

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I always thought that my first post or the post about if Elia and Lyanna's positions were reversed would get many hates and fights. It turned out the winter rose crown.

Now everyone is suffering.

To the anon who keeps entering Elia's support blogs. Neither Elia nor Lyanna haunts the narrative as much as you haunt our inboxes.

Refrain from humiliating yourself farther. You really need to calm down.

This feels like a troll.

I don't know if I should laugh or feel sorry for the others.

#anti rhaelya stans #anti Rhaegar #elia martell deserves better #lyanna isn't faultless

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The way Rhaegar cultists talk about Elia, *especially* when they're trying to be "positive," reminds me of the way "passport bros" talk about Latina women, with the whole "foreign = sexy = down for anything = doormat" thing. Elia's Dornishness only matters insofar as it sexually liberates men like Rhaegar, not Elia (because Elia isn't one of those stuck-up bitches like Cersei who resents people who cheat on them). Ironically, Dorne, one of the few places in the world women have equality, gets reduced to a culture of submissive women who will let their partners do anything so as not to seem prudish. Race doesn't exist in the world of asoiaf but the way people talk about Dornish characters, particularly Elia, is very much racist.

#asoiaf #elia martell deserves better #elia martell

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Catelyn Tully and Eddard Stark

#catelyn stark #ned stark #asoiaf

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arianne when areo hotah brought her ass back to sunspear after the queen myrcella shenanigans

#arianne martell

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Now that I think about, in fics where the author kills Elia, they’ll have Lyanna playing mommy of the year to rhaenys and Aegon, but in canon Lyanna said “fuck them kids” when she found out about Mya Stone.

It tickles me cause at least Cersei didn’t kill Robert’s bastards until Jon and Ned starting suspecting her kids of being bastards 😫

#lyanna stark

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Thanks to a reply by @sayruq, I was reminded of the strange stance hardcore Lyanna stans take towards her relationship with Elia. For them, Lyanna is a baby, a toddler, a child, a little girl who cannot possibly be faulted for anything.Each flaw anyone sees in her - without blaming her for the war and even running away with Rhaegar which most of us believed she did - is explained away with her youth. At worst, she can be lovingly taken towards a maternal bosom - Elia’s, most often - and gently hushed and crooned at that this wasn’t a good thing that she did and good girls don’t do such things.

At the same time, it’s anti feminist to have Elia feel any negativity towards her even in a scenario where there is no Robert’s Rebellion, aka Elia has to live with Lyanna’s constant presence in her life because she can’t leave unless Rhaegar throws her out - which again isn’t helpful for developing awe and sympathy for Lyanna. It’s anti feminist to have Elia and Lyanna, two ladies of high birth, with comparable station and sons by the same royal father, with one of them mightily shat upon in order to bring the other into their lives, feel like rivals and protect their respective children and social standing. Anti feminist, anti feminist, anti feminist.

Feminist comes from woman, right? So how the hell is Lyanna a baby who should be coddled and a grown up woman who should not be dragged any rivalries that would deem the poster writing them anti-feminist?

In how many ways is Elia supposed to crawl before Lyanna in order not to be considered a monster?

As sayruq was so kind to remind me, these talks about feminism somehow never come up when it’s a rivalry between angelic Lyanna and wicked Elia.

#lyanna stark

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To Those Who Pretend They Admire Dornish Ways...

… do you hear yourselves? Let’s have a look at your joke of an argument: you say Elia Martell wouldn’t have minded, couldn’t have minded Rhaegar’s affair with Lyanna because Dorne was just better this way. More free. When you don’t love someone, you don’t care what they do. You don’t care that they cheat on you, humiliate you, endanger you and your children. You claim it’s a good thing…

… And then, the next moment, you go shouting how Lyanna didn’t love Robert so she had the right to be with Rhaegar. There is just a teeny weeny problem: if not for Rhaegar, Lyanna would have likely married Robert whom she did not love AND seethed because he would have cheated. If your line of reasoning about the lack of love equaling lack of interest in the other person’s fidelity and this being awesome holds true, then Lyanna was a shrew. A hysterical, hypocritical, demanding bitch. The way your other half, aka the ones weeping for poor Rhaegar’s “forced” marriage sees Elia.

You can’t have it both ways. If Elia was so awesome in accepting humiliation and cheating, then Lyanna was nothing more than a jealous, self-obsessed, disgusting bitch.

Even I wouldn’t go this far.

#lyanna stark