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Their miracle was so big because Crowley and Aziraphale are the only demon and angel who eat and drink on a semi-regular basis

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During the Final Fifteen, there’s flashbacks to the Metatron’s and Aziraphale’s conversation. Why are they having this discussion at Marguerite’s? It’s early morning. Marguerite’s seems to be an evening restaurant(lunch at the earliest). All of the chairs are stacked on top of the tables, but interestingly all the fairy lights are turned on. There seems to be some lights on inside where they would be setting up for the day. The lights inside are not very bright though. It seems the conversation is taking place there because the restaurant is closed at this time. It would be hard to have this conversation at Nina’s coffee shop, because it’s bustling during the morning. But Marguerite’s wouldn’t be. It would be quiet. No humans interrupting just two angels… having a very nice and polite conversation with absolutely no manipulation at all…

*sarcasm

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Also it’s intensified by Nina calling Maggie angel later after saying that maybe they would be in a romantic relationship one day once she was ready… and we get this face..

When Nina asks Crowley about Aziraphale being his partner, Crowley gets slightly defensive of Aziraphale saying, “He’s far too pure of heart to be anyone’s bit on the side.” But that’s not what I want to draw your attention to. It’s the line after this..

“He’s just an angel,” he says, then slightly pausing, voice noticeably deeper, “I know.”

Yes, contextually, we know that he’s an angel, but Nina doesn’t. But interestingly, this seems to be the first time that someone has pointed out to Crowley that they seem like a couple. More to the point, it seems like this is the first time that Crowley realizes that the way that he talks about/to Aziraphale sounds like they’re in a romantic relationship especially when using the word ‘angel’ to humanity.

So yes, maybe, the entirety of his response is due to the fact that he just realized that he was in love with Aziraphale. But what if part of it is because he had just realized that for thousands of years he has been telling humanity that he was in love with Aziraphale and he’s just now realizing it?

This is why he tells Nina that he knows, because he now understands why calling Aziraphale ‘angel’ sounds so different to human ears. Now, he knows all of those humans who copied him by calling people angel were actually talking about their lovers. So how cruel is it that a demon turned the word ‘angel’ into a term of endearment and love?

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Good Omens | 2.05 The Ball

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There’s a deleted scene from the script book. It’s on the day that Aziraphale is opening the bookshop. Gabriel comes in with Sandalphon to give him a commendation and says that he can go back to Heaven. Aziraphale mentions that he just opened the shop but of course they don’t understand. Gabriel then says that someone else can take it over, maybe Michael. More shenanigans ensue. It’s interesting that it’s always seems to be Michael that Gabriel goes with first

"I opened the door for you."

I don't think these lines are just about Jimbriel opening the literal bookshop door. They're more clues that, when 3.01 airs, it will not be Aziraphale who is in charge of Heaven-- it will be Michael.

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The Good Place and Crowley

A while ago, someone sent an ask to Gaiman. It went as follows, “In the book, ‘Golden Girls’ was Crowley’s favorite TV show. Is that slo TV Crowley’s favorite or does he have a current TV show that he prefers?” He answered, “I think he’d love the ‘The Good Place.’”

The Good Place is one of my favorite shows. I completely understand why Crowley would like it. It has some of the best debates of the philosophy and ethics of modern day society including the afterlife. It argues that people should not be defined as good and bad. It shows that people can improve. It tells us why and how they improve.

There’s two things about Crowley that really connect him to these thoughts. 1. Crowley does not like to be defined as good(or nice). Though we haven’t really seen that include bad, I would assume that it would be the similar thought. It also might have something to do with Aziraphale saying those things specifically, but that’s another post. 2. That people are not defined by what happened to them, and that means that anyone can improve.

Crowley fell from Heaven. He fell from grace which made him demon which means that for all intents and purposes, he should be evil. But he isn’t. Crowley doesn’t ever really commit truly evil acts. Any truly evil act that Hell thinks Crowley committed, humans committed. Crowley just took the credit. Crowley likes the thought that people can change. In Hell, he sees tons of people who are awful, but he also sees people who just made some mistakes. He sees demons who are like him who don’t find joy in treating people terribly. He’s seen angels causing harm happily, but others giving away joy like lollipops.

Those two things are fundamental in the show, The Good Place. I would argue Good Omens as well. If Adam had always been treated like he was evil, he probably would have never had friends who he genuinely cared about so much so that their fear pulled him out of his power drunken state. If Aziraphale had assumed the snake was evil(if he even saw him lol), then smited him, where would Crowley and humanity be? The demon with the imagination burned to ash and humanity living with almost decision-less whilst tucked neatly within Eden’s walls. If people couldn’t improve then Shadwell would have never been able to put aside his fears and foolishness so that he could love Madame Tracy and show it. Gabriel and Beelzebub would still be planning Armageddon 2.0 if they hadn’t moved on and fell in love instead.

The Good Place reminds us of the things time and time again. Each of the four main characters get reset, and every time, in the right circumstances, they always become better people. They are also never really defined as good and bad either. At times, others try to define Eleanor as a bad person, but every time, she reminds them that, yes, maybe, she shouldn’t be in the Good Place, but at the very least, she should be in her very own Middle Place. Every time, Chidi teaches her how to become a better person(which only works, because she wants to be one) and in the process, he becomes one too. Just like Gabriel and Beelzebub.

This was way longer than I expected it to be, but here are some quotes from The Good Place and where I think they would fit into Good Omens whether that be place and time or people and relationships.

“Sometimes, when you’re feeling helpless, the secret is to help someone else. Get out of your own head. Trust me. The next time someone asks for help, say yes.” This feels like the whole of S2, specially Aziraphale with Jim and then Maggie

“If you have bills to pay and shit to deal with you don;t have time or energy to become a better person.”  The Resurrectionists in 1827 with Elspeth and Wee Morag

“If there were an answer I could give you to how the universe works, it wouldn’t;t be special. It would just be machinery fulfilling its cosmic design. It would just be a big, dumb food processor. But since nothing seems to make sense, when find something or someone that does, it’s euphoria.” All the couples in GO, but that quote right there seems to be how Crowley and Aziraphale has been holding on for so long

“I guess all I can do is embrace the pandemonium find happiness in the unique insanity of being here, now.” Nina specially during The Ball

“People improve when they get external love and support. How can we hold it against them when they don’t?” Beelzebub and Gabriel

“We have no plan. No one’s coming to save us. So... I’m going to do it.” Aziraphale(specifically him at the end of S2 in my opinion)but also just everybody in S1 with Anathema, Agnus, the Them, Aziraphale and Crowley, just all trying their best

“If soulmates do exist, they’re not found. They’re made. People meet. They get a good feeling, and they get to work building a relationship.” All the couples, but especially Aziraphale and Crowley with the Agreement, they were working on their relationship before they knew they were even working on their relationship

“What matters isn’t if people are good or bad. What matters is if people are trying to be better today than they were yesterday. You asked me where my hope comes from? That’s my answer.” Crowley, because deep down, at the end of the line, we know that he’s an optimist

*reminder that all of this is my opinion, if there’s anymore quotes you would like to add, please do, some of the information might be incorrect

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Also this one is directly across from it

What is it??? Who??

That head drives me crazy.

That's all. Look how it's framed in the shot -- right in the middle, with Crowley on its left and Gabriel on its right, as if it's the main character and needs a shoulder angel and demon.

It's just a head! And yet . . .

And yet . . .

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I just rewatched the scene and if you watch really closely it seems like he rolls whatever it is under his tongue. It also seems like he was showing Crowley that he had it before rolls it under.

People have mentioned ball bearings but also there are guns(sometimes called pellet rifles) that take bullets that are essentially ball bearings. Small, round sometimes metallic balls.

So does S2 have 2 bullet catches?

Edit: I need people to know that I don’t really think that he has something in his mouth. I added it in the tags but…anyway, here’s the tags: #watching it frame by frame all together though #makes it seem like maybe it’s just the light hitting the spit in his mouth. The light hitting the spit shows as white highlights. Also adding they were both really emotional before and after the kiss which makes a spit bubble even more probable

Michael babygirl, I apologize now for the close-up screenshots of your mouth I am going to put on the internet. Call Neil if you have issues with it, it's his fault.

Honey, why are you chewing on a ball bearing? I was going to be lenient and say it's a glint off of some saliva but nah she's suckin on a damn pie weight. I didn't see her take a bite of any dippin dots, did you? Who let her near my stash of Buckyballs that I was hiding from the Consumer Product Safety Commission? Just because you are bbgurl doesn't mean you get to eat bbpellets.

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*he hung out with Da Vinci willingly but I think that just intensified Aziraphale being his one and only, platonically and romantically, because humanity only lives so long

i know it's been said a million times but i still find it so fucking funny that shax told aziraphale that he isn't crowley's type. girl crowley's type is "aziraphale." not even nerds or bookshop owners or angels, it is ONLY aziraphale.

and that makes aziraphale's reaction so much funnier because he KNOWS she's bluffing. it's SO obvious. like he's oblivious, but he's not THAT oblivious. he's literally like the only person crowley has ever willingly hung out with. like nice try but that's the worst bluff ever, i thought you were supposed to be good at this.

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Almost - but not entirely

The part where the 3rd scene below smacked me in the face the other night on my nth rewatch of season 1, and I don't know how I missed it so many times before.

Soho 2007

Saturday - The Last Day of the World

Sunday - The Very First Day of the Rest of Their Lives

Adam had rebooted reality. He had changed the past and changed the present. So, on Sunday, people woke to find a world that was almost - but not entirely - the one that they used to inhabit.

And suddenly everyone on the sidewalks of Soho is walking in nice, orderly straight lines.

Just like they are in season 2.

What did you do, Adam?

Of all the newspapers available in London, Crowley chooses to read the Tadfield Advertiser in s2 ep 1 - and Tadfield still has perfect weather.

Just like it did in season 1.

Should the question be what are you doing, Adam?

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When Nina asks Crowley about Aziraphale being his partner, Crowley gets slightly defensive of Aziraphale saying, “He’s far too pure of heart to be anyone’s bit on the side.” But that’s not what I want to draw your attention to. It’s the line after this..

“He’s just an angel,” he says, then slightly pausing, voice noticeably deeper, “I know.”

Yes, contextually, we know that he’s an angel, but Nina doesn’t. But interestingly, this seems to be the first time that someone has pointed out to Crowley that they seem like a couple. More to the point, it seems like this is the first time that Crowley realizes that the way that he talks about/to Aziraphale sounds like they’re in a romantic relationship especially when using the word ‘angel’ to humanity.

So yes, maybe, the entirety of his response is due to the fact that he just realized that he was in love with Aziraphale. But what if part of it is because he had just realized that for thousands of years he has been telling humanity that he was in love with Aziraphale and he’s just now realizing it?

This is why he tells Nina that he knows, because he now understands why calling Aziraphale ‘angel’ sounds so different to human ears. Now, he knows all of those humans who copied him by calling people angel were actually talking about their lovers. So how cruel is it that a demon turned the word ‘angel’ into a term of endearment and love?

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Crowley’s very slight smile in response

Good Omens | 2.04 The Hitchhiker

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crowley must have known that aziraphale was also in love with him, he tidied the bookshop, he was planning on taking him to the Ritz after his confession, he had their song queued in the car these are not acts of someone who wasn't sure what the outcome will be.

which makes it so much more painful that he still confessed his love for aziraphale with tears in his eyes and on the verge of a full blown panic attack, he left saying "don't bother" but he still waited by his car til the elevator doors closed. all because

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A wily opponent,

this demon smiter must be warily approached.

Report any interactions

to the demon Crowley.

On sighting: AVVOID

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(first off: I'm not an astronomer, and I may be wildly off, but…) I had always assumed that "This too was incorrect. By almost a quarter of an hour", on the first page of Good Omens, was a throwaway joke. Today I realised it might actually be a reference; was it?

AIUI, Ussher said that although the creation occurred on the autumn equinox (22 September), he gave the date as 21 October to account for the drift caused by the Julian calendar, which was in use in Ireland at that time. I think he also said that it occurred at 9am Irish time, because that's noon in Jerusalem.

What just occurred to me is that Irish civil time is calculated from the Greenwich meridian. But Ussher lived in Armagh, 6.55° west of Greenwich. The solar time in Armagh at noon in Jerusalem is 9:19am and on 21 October is 9:11am. So 9am is off by almost a quarter of an hour.

Thanks for all the happy memories and the solidarity over the years.

I just want to show this to Terry Pratchett.

#good omens

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Oh jeeze there's a LOT of stolen Good Omens fan artwork being sold as stickers and bags on Amazon

I reported one big one but check Amazon in case your art is illegally on there!

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It’s so funny how Crowley is constantly saying “nothing to do with me! The humans thought of that themselves!” about various human atrocities. Oh no, that’s terrible, who gave humans the idea to think for themselves? We’re all trying to find the guy who did this.