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Am I happy Watcher rolled back their plan and apologized? Yes. Have I still lost any desire to watch their videos? Yes. Do I think people are being too harsh towards Steven, singling him out and such? Yes. Do I think Steven and Andrew bringing back worth it in the middle of a global cost of living crisis is extremely out of touch? Yes.
All of these things can coexist. Feelings towards the situation can be complex. It happens.
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sleeping positions that fuck up your spine feel so good for no reason it’s literally the devil’s deepest temptation
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I dream of cracking locks, throwing my life to the wolves or the ocean rocks
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so i LEAP from the gallows and i levitate down your street CRASH THE PARTY like a record scratch as I SCREAM WHO’S AFRAID OF LITTLE OLD MEEEEE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
you should be.
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I LOVE THIS
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can someone explain the black dog to me for my pea sized brain
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Hey to all those dickriding the Watcher boys right now taking about how 50+ US dollars a year “isnt that much and is cheaper than all the other streaming services.” Fuck you. Most people can’t afford groceries right now.
To all the Watcher fans shaming their own community for being upset that they can no longer watch something that they enjoyed. Fuck you too.
To all those who are signing up to have a subscription to this completely new and know nothing sub service. Or are donating to this google forms raffle thing. Please direct your money towards a charity of your choice or the Genocide that is happening to the Palestinians.
It will be a cold day in hell when I support someone who drives a Tesla over the starving and war ridden people of Palestine. Free Palestine. Eat the Rich. Fuck you Watcher TV for giving your audience something NO. ONE. ASKED. FOR.
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i am seeing all of the criticism of watchertv (and agreeing of course - it's entirely tone deaf and un-conducive among other things) but i feel as though the attitude i am seeing from a lot of people online involve absolving shane entirely, saying things like, "shane blink twice if they made you do this!" "shane "eat the rich" would never allow this!" "he was forced into this!" and redirecting all of the blame unto ryan and steven - mostly steven - saying that steven is the "ned fulmer of watcher" (wild thing to say) and delegating the responsibility of this decision entirely onto the two of them, and i cannot help but feel like there is an undeniable racial undertone to this rather vitrolic pivot. i understand being a fan of shane - i myself was a proud shaniac! - but i plead that we be conscious about woobifying an adult man who - though could have very well opposed the decision - was still one of the three ceos who okayed it! nothing is gained from scapegoating the two asian men and relinquishing the white one for the hate that this business venture is garnering. please, by all means, continue to criticize, but if you are, do it tastefully, and be careful with insinuations - especially without knowing the intricacies of the situation (and even if/when we do know something. criticism should never come from veiled bigotry) ! just because the property itself is shifting rather horribly doesn't mean we as watcherinas need to turn our community toxic <33
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"Omg y'all are babies who don't realize that they need to make money and just feel entitled to free art!"
First of all I think most Watcher fans will agree that nobody asked for "TV quality" content. In fact I personally find most of their new shows to be extremely overproduced compared to their Buzzfeed era videos, which were backed by an actual big company. So them blowing their budget on new staff and fancy sets is something few people asked for.
"But this is their art and their company and they're allowed to make it however they want, they can't just constantly make their old stuff to retain an audience!"
I mean, yeah, if this is what they want to keep making, more power to them! But people are not obligated to 1) enjoy it and 2) pay for it. Audiences will fluctuate. Look at the Try Guys and how much their stuff has changed while still being successful. So maybe they'll get a new audience that is willing to pay for the stuff they want to make. But it's perfectly understandable for a large portion of their old fans to leave. Cuz yeah. If you wanna say "um this is capitalism sweaty" then yeah, I'll agree with you. This is capitalism. And I have better things to spend money on. I am not entitled to their art, and they are not entitled to my money. If they stop making stuff I like and have access to, I will stop watching. Taste closed.
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capitalism killed my parasocial best friend, shane madej. may he rest in peace.
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genuinely cannot imagine dickriding the watcher guys the way some of you have been. like they made a bad business decision! they alienated their audience! they made jokes about "eating the rich" and then one of their owners turned around and bought a tesla! they said they'd pull all their old content off youtube and then immediately backpedaled and started gaslighting the people who noticed it! they're just guys on the internet, they're not your friends and they are not anti-capitalists. they just want money and they don't care about their primarily young/international/non-wealthy audience.
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"we wanna keep the price low enough where anybody and everybody is able to afford it" for an unnecessary $6 a month subscription from the mouth of someone who drives a tesla and wants to make a show where he judges whether a dish with edible gold and caviar on top of it is "worth it" while the majority of their audience is struggling to make rent is giving high key let them eat cake energy
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what watcher is doing is so stupid like, how can a channel with majority of its viewers being young probably unemployed people and students think is a good idea to make you pay to watch a fucking video, and also 6 dollars is not gonna be 6 dollars everywhere ( in my country is going to be very expensive). im not praying for anyone's downfall but i dont think this is going to workout in the long run.
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The most important comment in this whole mess
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