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heretherebedork · 1 year
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I love the return of the darling couples. Absolutely adore. @absolutebl they came back sweet as cotton candy.
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moonstruck-me · 3 years
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A lot of things can't be had both ways. I'm not greedy.
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caprice33 · 3 years
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Only You - completed!
And I FINALLY learned how to use the link key. Feel so silly I messed up for so long. You guys are so nice not to point out the dumbness.
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Tis true - the ChengRen and XiSing/Yong Jie adventure is complete & up. The fix-it story for HIStory 4 that would not let go!
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Please enjoy. Leave comments and let me know what you think. Thanks!
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konaizumi · 3 years
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One of the reasons I'm so frustrated with how they're handling the xingsi x yongjie storyline (besides the obvious) is how much potential it had to be a genuinely interesting story that explored issues of love vs obsession and healthy relationships.
Like yongjie is, on his own, an interesting character, and they really could've gone more in depth and tried to explore his mental health issues and why he has chosen to cling to xingsi. He could've had a whole arc where he realizes that he doesn't actually understand xingsi and that he's been projecting a lot. (having in depth knowledge of surface level information about a person and making logical conclusions does not mean you understand that person)
Yongjie could actually grow as a person as he has to relearn both xingsi and himself and learn how to love someone selflessly. Like yeah, I think no matter what, their relationship is going start from an unhealthy place, but like the individual growth they could both go through as yongjie learns how to love other people and xingsi learns how to love and value himself.
Also, yongjie has a fun dynamic within the group, i thought his interactions with muren and li cheng were pretty cute and funny, and i could've enjoyed them if they weren't overshadowed but all the shit he did and they way they've decided to gloss over everything. Like, if his interactions were more motivated by jealousy bc he also wants to be that close to xingsi rather than possessiveness and not wanting others to be that close to xingsi, it would've been cute.
Just like, this relationship could've been so fun, the character development so rich and fulfilling and sending out a good, healing message about healthy relationships and self love. And I think the characters/actors have good chemistry, but that preview for next ep tho is just fucked up.
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heretherebedork · 1 year
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Oh, hey, wasn't expecting YongJie and XingSi here to show us what it means to be in a longterm couple and how they slowly make it work and figure out how to live together... but welcome!
But, also, how does this conversation lead to Liang literally cutting off all contact with Wynn? Poor Wynn.
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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I feel like I'm going to get whiplash from watching H4, frankly.
LiChen and MuRen as soft and awkward and caring, two men discovering that their sexuality and romantic interest isn't as straightforward as they thought (lol, straight) and growing closer as they move from friendship to love. There's humor, there's lots of awkwardness, there's LiChen being an idiot... it's all good fun.
Xingsi and YongJie are fucked up and broken and involve internalized homophobia, sexual assault, manipulation, abuse and a generally horrifying concept about someone who sees himself as the villain in a story where the villain is actually the one he thinks he wronged. It's a horror story about someone so distrusting of himself that he can't see how much someone is hurting him.
And you go back and forth between these two plots. Between a couple of friends learning that friendship can lead to love and a pair of stepbrothers discovering how deeply someone can be hurt if he believes that he made the mistake and can't see past that tree to the rest of the forest.
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moonstruck-me · 3 years
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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Xingsi, darling, he is exactly that kind of person. You can be okay with that, fine, but ihe is exactly the kind of person that would have kidnapped you if he'd thought you'd still smile at him.
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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"I can be the best boyfriend because I'm already part of the family" is maybe... maybe not the positive argument you thought it would be, YongJie?
Also, child, your boyfriend asked you to wait! Stop ignoring everything Xingsi says just because you think you know better.
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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*scream in chaotic trash*. No more nice couples, let's make this interesting. Love Set +XingSi/YongJie.
I do love chaos trash!
Love Set
Most romantic moment?
When Xingsi is trying to teach YongJie how to do dirty talk. I mean... sexiest or most romantic? Both. Both. Definitely both. Look, the end is sweet as sugar but this moment is absolutely perfect and really shows how their dynamic will work going forward.
What do you think their love languages are?
Is obsession a love language? YongJie's love language is definitely quality time. He just wants to be with XingSi at all times and never, ever apart. XingSi's love language is, to me, acts of service. He likes to take care and to be taken care of, to make sure everything goes well.
What kind of dates do they go on?
Very careful ones? Literally anything. Actually, since YongJie mostly just wants XingSi to himself, I foresee a lot of movies that they don't watch and a lot of very private corner booths in restaurants that are darkly lit and also LOTS of spa weekends.
Favorite kiss and/or hug.
It's gotta be the piggyback of joy when XingSi agrees to date YongJie. I know, I know, but that moment is just SO good. I love it so much. Absolutely one of the definitive, if not the definitive moment, for my love of this couple.
BL Pairing ask meme!
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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Favorite toxic pairing?
Mine is Mistuo x Mistuo
Okay, honestly, I don't tend to love toxic pairings.
But can I just go with Yongjie/Xingsi. Because holy fuck stepbrothers that were raised together, as brothers, with Xingsi as nearly a parental figure.
I honestly ended up loving them anyway. What a relationship.
Hmmm, other toxic relationships I actually enjoyed?
TumTar.
... Oh, hey, look, stepbrothers! Also, love that is given but not returned? Ugh, I love it. I was SO sad that LBC2 erased them. Were they toxic and not great? Yep! But I loved them anyway.
Other toxic pairings... (Hi, I never choose just one)
I think those are the two I enjoy the most, honestly. And I think they're toxic enough for this to count? I have no idea. I enjoy certain types of fictional dysfunction in a relationship but I also really only enjoy them if they're accompanied by the fictional people enjoying them as well.
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konaizumi · 3 years
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One of the things that bothers me about xingsi x yongjie is that they don’t match up well as a couple. Like yes, the rape and manipulation has completely turned me off this couple and would overpower everything even if they were a good couple, but yongjie just doesn’t fit xingsi’s needs. They’ve tried to set up this narrative of xingsi needs someone who can confidently stand beside him and come out to his father, and yongjie is ready and willing to do this, ergo, he is a good match. But xingsi needs more than that, he needs someone who will love him selflessly. He needs someone to support him, someone who can give him courage, someone who can make him feel safe. Because xingsi is scared. He’s scared of the world and his sexuality and that he may never have the chance to be happy. He wasn’t even out to his two best friends, though it perhaps understood by all 3 that they knew even if they never talked about it--but the point is that he needs someone who provides security.
And that’s why yongjie isn’t right for xingsi. Because xingsi needs selfless love but yongjie only knows how to love selfishly. The entire time he’s just assumed he knows how xingsi feels and that xingsi does actually like him, even if he’s not aware of it himself. His actions are always centered around getting what he wants, not building up an equal relationship. It’s always ‘how do i make him mine’ and not ‘how do i become his partner.’ It’s a very childish form of love and it shows that he lacks understanding of xingsi, despite the narrative trying to convince us otherwise. Him saying ‘i decided my birthday present would be you’ probably best encapsulates everything i’ve said. And, like I said, xingsi needs safety and comfort but yongjie got him drunk and raped him--a severe violation of his person. It made him feel extremely unsafe and he completely lost confidence in himself, worried about whether it was his fault for what happened or if he influenced his brother (which is obviously bs). Yongjie is literally causing xingsi to experience and feel all his worst fears about his sexuality.
And what does Yongjie do immediately afterward? He goes after xingsi without realizing the kind of reaction xingsi is having. Then, after xingsi makes him leave, rather than reflecting on his actions and trying to understand xingsi, he makes xingsi think he’s going to commit suicide (which i think we can all agree is not an okay thing to do) to scare xingsi back to him. Then he tries to justify his actions with the whole ‘i did it because i love you’ bs. And i know part of it is his own mental health issues that make it hard for him to understand other people and that’s why he doesn’t quite understand xingsi’s reaction, but rather than having xingsi try to explain, the writers have xingsi start to sympathize with his rapist.
Quite frankly, I don’t know how they’re going to try to salvage this relationship at this point. Especially bc they’re not really romanticizing the rape, like they kinda are but they’re also treating it like a severely traumatic experience for xingsi so i’m not sure how they’ll come back from it. Going forward from here, the only narrative the only narrative I think I could accept is yongjie realizing the impact of his actions and how he had misunderstood xingsi, then after a time skip (minimum length of 1 year, preferrably longer) during which yongjie learns how to love people in a healthy, consensual way, and xingsi learns to love himself and not accept any bs, they then are able to start a healthy relationship. I wouldn’t love it, but I could accept it.
But that doesn’t seem to be the way the narrative is going. I think they’re tailoring it to be this: xingsi is scared. Scared of society, scared of himself, scared no one will ever love him enough, that he will never be enough. Finding out yongjie loves him is shocking for multiple reasons and he runs away bc he is scared. But yongjie proves to him how much he loves him and the sheer depths of yongjie’s “unconditional” love (pls mark the sarcasm) will eventually get through to him and reassure him and chase away his insecurities.
Bleh. It’s a shame bc this story and the characters actually had a lot of potential, adn like, the story above sounds good on paper if they had just focused more on yongjie providing a steady sense of comfort and love, even while dealing with his own mental health, rather than yongjie selfishly taking until xingsi gives in. There’s also some meta here on negative conceptions of mental illness but I’m not gonna get into that. Anyways, in conclusion, unless yongjie is able to go through an immense self journey and understand and make up for his wrongs, i just can’t root for this couple.
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konaizumi · 3 years
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I just can’t quite get into yongjie x xingsi bc it felt like xingsi really only saw him as a brother til this point and they didn’t really have much romantic chemistry? Like I just never felt like xingsi saw him in a romantic light—he tried, but he always gave off ‘big brother concerned for little brother’ vibes to me.
Then now he’s in love with yongjie but it felt sudden and out of place and I can’t really tell when or how his feelings changed.
Also, I wished they had shown us the cuter, more lighthearted side of yongjie sooner, I might’ve like him more.
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caprice33 · 3 years
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Chapters: 1/7 Fandom: HIStory4 - 近距離愛上你 | HIStory4: Close to You (TV) Rating: Mature Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Teng Muren/Xiao Licheng, Fu Yongjie/Ye Xingsi, x - Relationship Characters: Teng Muren, Xiao Licheng, Ye Xingsi, Fu Yongjie Additional Tags: established relationships - Freeform, Affection, Kidnapping, Hurt/Comfort, Therapy, Threats, Happy Childhood, Implied/Referenced Child Abuse, Manipulation, Friendship, Loyalty, Trust, Healing, Camping, Consensual Sex, playfulness, Public Display of Affection, men kissing, Men Crying, Cuddling, Men making love, Step-Sibling Incest, Graphic Violence Summary:
It’s been four years since MUSE Weddings' sales team managers Teng MuRen and Xiao LiCheng went from co-workers to roommates to lovers. Four years since MUSE Creative Director Ye Xingsi was forced out of the closet, accepting his younger, dysfunctional stepbrother Fu Yong Jie as his lover ... the brother who raped him. Life is pretty good ... so why isn’t everyone happy?
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heretherebedork · 3 years
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Rate the following BL (1-5 then why):
HIStory 4: Close to You
HIStory 3: Crossing the Line
Brothers the Series
Love by Chance
Addicted: Heroin
HIStory 4: Close to You: OVerall? 3/5... Muren/Lichen is 5/5 and Yongjie/Xingsi is 2/5 so it kinda evens out. Yes, Y/X has amazing chemistry but that STORY no thanks, lol. L/M is one of my favorite pairings ever. Just LOOK AT THEM. Love them so much. If they/’d had their own show... I’d be there and never, ever stop rewatching.
HIStory 3: Crossing the Line: 3/5? Eh. Look, I get it. But, honestly, for me? Doesn’t do it. I never fell in love and can rewatch the bits I like enough to rewatch in under an hour. It’s not bad, I have rewatched it, but I don’t have much of emotional connection to it.
Brothers the Series: 2.5/5 This is a show that should have been cut in half in length and would have been so, so much better. But they gave me my favorite ghost-ship threesome AND KaowKhun so I suppose I can’t be TOO angry at it. But it’s getting season 2 and I don’t... I don’t get that at all. Why?
Love by Chance: 3/5 because AePete and TinCan are two of my favorites pairing but KengklaTechno can burn in a goddamn dumpster fire  I love AePete SO much, no denial. It’s so, so good and adorable and fluffy, one of the best pairings imho. I love them so much.
Addicted: Heroin: 5/5 It’s so good. It’s one of the best examples of what it is and does the pairing so, so well and the sweetness and the fluff and it’s just so good. Yes, the ending got cut off but it’s AMAZING regardless and you can pretend it’s one of the Thai BLs that didn’t get a second season that everyone still loves. Definitely watch this, okay?
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