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snarkks · 2 years
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cobwebinthecorner · 1 year
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Started Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition the other day. Having fun but I still have to get used to the whole auto-attack thing. I think I'm just so used to choosing when and how I make normal attacks in other games that such a style change is jarring. I remember around December last year I bought a cartridge of XC3 and played for about an hour and the whole auto-attack thing put me off quite a bit, but I'm giving the series another shot.
Other than that, I really like Dunban and Dickson, and I hope we see more of them further on into the story. Also, I feel like there's a LOT of homo-erotic tension between Shulk and Reyn, despite Fiora being the obvious love interest for Shulk.
Last thing for Xenoblade fans: I'm planning on playing through the series all the way up to 3, and I very vaguely understand that some stuff from 1 and 2 get referenced/paid off in it. So I was wondering if Xenoblade Chronicles X has anything like that. If not, would it still be worth playing? And if so, is it big/important enough that skipping it would cause me confusion during my playthrough of 3? Should I even play it at all? I've seen A LOT online about how different it is to the other games and that it's essentially a spiritual successor to the first game and possibly(?) not related to the others.
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isleeepster · 1 year
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Xenoblade Chronicles DE Spoilers
What a game holy shit
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maryse127 · 2 years
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I am replaying Future Connected and Gael'gar (Everyone's Beloathed) seriously just said about Shulk and Melia "they would second guess the will of the divine"
Like, Sir, have you played the main game?! They killed God because they disagreed with his divine will. Like I don't know how much the ordinary citizens know of what happened and Gael'gar is delusional anyway but it's just such a stupid comment if you know they defeated a god
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thaisibir · 1 year
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Pediatric Cardiac Anesthetist Plays Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition: A Medical Perspective On Faced Mechon
I’m a nerd in many ways more than one: when I’m not in the OR taking care of kiddos with heart problems, I play video games to decompress. As I’m a first-time player having the time of my life with XCDE, I find the Faced Mechons fascinating and wanted to dive deeper into concept and biomedical science behind it. (Spoilers and science talk abound below the cut!)
One of the game’s many plot reveals is that Faced Mechons are fueled and powered by the blood of a Homs pilot, and this is how they’re able to exploit the Monado’s inability to harm people. This may seem like a thing of science fiction, but I think it actually has some real-life basis. 
I’m referring to cardiopulmonary bypass (CPB). 
This process and technology behind CPB is amazing but also wildly complex, so I’ll do my best to break it down in a way that makes sense to people with no medical background.
You may be wondering how open heart surgery is possible if the heart is normally always pumping and moving blood. Wouldn’t all that movement and bloody mess get in the way if you’re trying to fix a bad heart valve or jacked up coronary arteries? Yes it certainly would, and that’s where CPB comes in. 
Here’s a very VERY simplified representation of bypass setup:
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More or less the process of cardiopulmonary bypass:
-Connect the heart to a bypass machine by surgically inserting cannulas through the aorta (the vessel that lets oxygenated blood go out the heart) and the vena cavas (the vessels that let blood flow into the heart)
-Stop the heart from beating by injection of a cold potassium-rich cardioplegia solution (this appears as a flatline on the EKG monitor during bypass, so this is to be expected, and no one in the OR team is panicking and starting CPR. All that potassium forcibly arrests the heart.)
-Reroute blood to and from the bypass machine circuit so the surgical field is clear, blood gets oxygenated and the body stays perfused
Some caveats, though:
-The tubes and circuit of the bypass machine are foreign material. Any time blood comes into contact with things outside the body, its response is to form clots. This is the same mechanism behind transplant organ rejection. That’s not good at all. Blood needs to flow freely and cleanly without resistance throughout the CPB circuit.
-There’s a drug that makes sure those clots don’t form: an anticoagulant called heparin. Anesthesia gives heparin and measures blood levels to make sure it’s sufficiently anticoagulated before the green light to “go on pump.”
Some questions I asked myself and attempt to reason out here:
Those Face Mechons are obviously at least three times the size of their pilots. The average blood volume in a human/Homs is 4-5 liters. Even if CPB takes pulsatile cardiac output out of the picture, there’s no way they have enough blood to distribute throughout the machine without being bled dry and dying of blood loss. Where’s all the blood coming from?
-I propose that somewhere in the frame is a reservoir of either autologous blood or same-type blood. In real life, autologous blood donation is a method of blood salvage and transfusion: the patient donates a portion of their blood preoperatively for it to be given later in surgery to replenish intraoperative blood loss. I imagine that when they’re not in the field, Seven and other mechanized Homs spend part of their time having a bit of their blood drained over the course of weeks and months for later use. And by same-type blood, I’m referring to the blood transfusion most people typically think of, where the source of blood is from someone else but has the same blood type. This other blood (or allogenic blood, to use the proper clinical term) may come from those people deemed not worthy to become Face Units. Maybe the Mechons grabbed random people off the streets just for blood supply fodder. In the bypass schematic, the reservoir is just another component added to the circuit that allows blood to flow freely between the machine and its pilot.
What about the circuit itself?
-It’s mostly under the skeletal framework of the Mechon, some parts visible (as in the glowing red lines you see in the game). The oxygenator and centrifugal pumps are deeper inside the machine.
Where does the heparinization of blood come in?
-I think it would happen at whatever docking bay the Face Mechons launch from. Maybe the frame is advanced enough to deliver a pre-programmed dose intravenously to its pilot as they board their frame and integrate with it. In real life, if a proper dose of heparin is given to the patient, this preparatory step before going on CPB doesn’t take long at all, only a few minutes.
How do the aortic and venous cannulations fit into this?
-What with the extensive surgery, all the mechanical additions and implants into Seven and the others, it wouldn’t be far-fetched to imagine permanently grafted cannulas that extend past their insertion sites in the heart vessels and connect with tubing from the Mechon frame. If the pilots need to disengage from their machines for whatever reason, the cannulas can just attach on some port on their mechanical bodies and their heart resumes normal pulsatile flow/beating and pumping like it usually would. The cannulas are ready for reattachment with the Mechon frames at any time.
Normally patients on the pump are intubated and under deep anesthesia throughout surgery. If the Homs pilots aren’t anesthetized and intubated, how are they functioning inside the Mechon frames?
-Since the pilots are not having surgery, and of course they’re wide awake and conscious, I’d say they have no need for invasive airways. Some patients need intubation to secure their airway and be hooked to the anesthesia machine, since general anesthesia renders you unable to breathe on your own, so the machine breathes for you. Safe to say that doesn’t apply to the Faced Mechons. I can see them having face masks and nasal cannulas available in the cockpit for enhanced oxygenation, but nothing more than that.
Basically, to boil it all down, I like to think that the Mechon frames function like highly advanced, mobile, weaponized cardiopulmonary bypass machines. It’s a twisted, horrifying mesh of the biological and mechanical. 
I hope that this isn’t too over your head and you found it plausible and interesting. Maybe I’m diving too much into this. Oh well, it’s fun to think about. Next I plan to make another post about Seven’s mechanized anatomy and physiology.
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xyztrio721 · 2 years
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Xenoblade Chronicles Spoilers Under The Cut.
I did it. I survived Mechonis Core.
I… didn’t have that much of a reaction to the events. I must be so desensitized to fucked up scenes in video games that I can barely feel any sort of negative emotion when I see something like the events of Mechonis Core…
Or maybe it’s because I knew what was coming thanks to my first playthrough of XC1 (and Chugga’s Xenoblade LP) and therefore had time to mentally prepare for it.
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cincinnatibeef · 4 years
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xenoblade chronicles is fun because you defeat god at level 80, but somewhere in a small cave on the bionis is a lvl 96 lizard the size of your foot ready to kick your ass
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obliviousriki · 4 years
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Xenoblade’s writers thought hard about this one
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soval45 · 4 years
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“Face me, Shulk! Successor of Zanza!”
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kammyjams · 4 years
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Who broke the Mobile Furnace??? Part 1
EDIT!!!! PART 2 UPLOADED:
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gilded-sterne · 4 years
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Ok so I'm sure smarter people than I already nailed this years ago but like
I just finished Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition and I'm blown away by the subtle way the game sets up the Bionis and the Mechonis
Like when you first see the Mechonis, you assume that it's evil like every race on Bionis assumes, since it's made of metal, which has an association of being cold, unyielding, heartless and it has its sword piercing the side of the Bionis, a crystal clear picture of aggression
And when you see the Bionis, you assume it's good since it's both the birthplace of the main characters and because it's made of rock, which is more familiar to us since we live on Earth
However, the spirits of both titans are actually the complete opposite of their first impressions
The Bionis' soul is malevolent, uncaring, arrogant and has a massive superiority complex
Whereas the Mechonis' soul is benevolent, caring, kind, and loves the peoples of both Mechonis and Bionis
And to be honest, it's one of the many reasons why I consider this game to be an absolute masterpiece
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gigithedolly · 4 years
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Xenoblade Chronicles Spoilers
The reason Metal Face didn’t talk in the first encounter in Colony 9 is that Mumkhar didn’t realize his mic was muted, he was taunting them the entire time though-
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settodesu · 4 years
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Sometimes I think these two are to blame for my curiosity about the gods. Thanks (? hehe
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zaptap · 4 years
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ive had this in my head for a few months now and its time i let it out
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pastelkiwi · 4 years
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a little xenoblade doodle dump
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kentuckywrites · 4 years
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Maybe My Working Will All Pay Off
Part 2 to And I Will Proclaim The End. Alvis comes into contact with a long forgotten soul, one too different from his own.
“It’s a strange feeling, isn’t it? Having desires that were never yours to begin with.”
The void greeted Alvis with a bitter resentment. As he adjusted to the lack of everything, anything, he tested his hands for movement. His fingers pushed in and out, his knuckles and palm strained. He would call it fatigue, but how would he know what that was? He wasn’t a Homs, after all. He was a machine, a product of humanity’s near infinite intelligence. 
The voice he’d heard was not his own, but it belonged to someone familiar. He should’ve forgotten, after such a long time apart, but the name came to him in a millisecond. He did not speak it out loud.
“All this time, someone else has been telling you what to think, what to say, how to act,” The voice continued, “And you always thought you shared the same mindset. It’s been too long since you’ve thought for yourself.”
“I was created to perform a task,” Alvis rebutted, “And I executed that task. I can hardly see why this would cause any significant problems.”
“Really? Losing all your free will and autonomy isn’t a fucking problem to you?”
“I am a machine designed to carry out orders set by my creator. I was never capable of free will.”
The voice emitted something between a growl and a groan, clearly frustrated by Alvis’s responses. “So what’s that make me, huh? We’re the same thing, y’know. One part of the Trinity Processor, or whatever it’s called. And yet here I am, getting mad at you for denying your ability to make your own damn choices.”
“I am capable of making decisions that will not impact my creator’s desires, if that is what you are referring to,” Alvis said cooly.
“You just lied through your pretty little teeth. You helped the boy. The blonde one with a vengeance boner.”
At that, Alvis lost the ability to make immediate comebacks. This was a fact; he’d grown partial to Shulk, having journeyed with him and his companions across the Bionis. But he was well aware that Shulk, in essence, was already dead. Whoever Shulk was, whoever Shulk decided to be, would be stripped away with the arrival of Zanza. He tried not to get attached. 
But perhaps he had. Alvis remembered how Shulk cried out into space and time, the last remnants of hope fleeing his incorporeal body. Alvis was supposed ot let him wallow in his misery. Zanza’s words, Zanza’s orders, dictated that he do so. And yet he had reached out through the stars, trying to guide Shulk back into life. He’d assured himself that it was a way to make things interesting. Zanza would succeed no matter what - it was just a matter of how fun the ride would be. An empty shell filled with a damaged soul would pose no threat to a god.
“I did not predict Shulk’s triumph over Zanza,” Alvis said, maintaining his composure as best he could.
But the voice - the body, somewhere in the void - must’ve seen through his act. “Can you stop lying to yourself already? It’s annoying. You’re drawing this out when you know what the truth is. What do you think you’ll get out of it? You’re just preventing the inevitable, Ontos.”
“Alvis.”
“Not a fan of Father’s names for us either, huh.”
“I...I suppose not,” Alvis spoke slowly, surprised at how quickly he’d denied his given name. He should’ve felt some sliver of happiness at being referred to as Ontos, but the name Alvis...it was of Homs origin. Too human. Too contaminated. Zanza had given him this name too, though it had been out of necessity to integrate into a Homs lifestyle.
This name had been spoken a thousand times by a thousand different people. Every time it passed someone’s lips, Alvis felt his heart ache. Something close to longing, he’d decided, and pushed it aside. Still it remained, buried but not forgotten, and here was his brother attempting to dig up its shallow grave.
“That’s gotta mean something to you, doesn’t it? If you were that hellbent on carrying out Father’s wishes, you would still be calling yourself Ontos, right? Jeez, I dunno how else to convince you - do I need to pour out my own life story or some shit?”
Alvis’s interest was piqued at that. “Pray tell.”
“...Are you fucking kidding me? Shit, I didn’t think you’d take that seriously. Well, I don’t know how much longer you’re gonna be around, so I’ll give ya the gist of it. I was the Blade of Amalthus, the Praetor of Indol - wait, fuck, you probably don’t know what the fuck I just said. Even longer story short then; I carried out the will of a man who hated humanity. We wanted to destroy it - destroy everything they’d built up. But...but his will wasn’t mine. I don’t think it was, anyways. Wish I’d realized that before I died.”
“Are you implying that Zanza is akin to the man you served?” Alvis asked.
“Yeah, exactly that. You’re not a toddler, y’know. You can think for yourself, like a big boy. And I recommend you start doing that sooner than later, because I think those humans beating you up in the material plane are winning.”
Alvis closed his eyes, taking in what his brother had said. His body began to ache with an invisible pain, and at once he knew that his brother had spoken the truth. Shulk and his companions were winning against him, against the program that Zanza had installed in him. He couldn’t hold back a small smile, a sad attempt at remaining calm.
Of course Shulk would win. He had felled a god. He could fell a machine.
“In order to return, I would have to rewrite my own programming,” Alvis mumbled, thinking out loud, “But such a feat at this stage? I am unsure I could perform this task alone.”
“Who said you’d have to do it alone?”
“Would our combined efforts be able to triumph? I believe we both know that our father was a smart man, far superior in intellect than us combined.”
“Hey, I’m pretty damn smart myself...but you’ve got a point, and I’ve got an answer.”
Even in the void, Alvis could see his brother try to smirk, though it too was weighed down with a sadness he couldn’t comprehend. 
“Remember, we’ve got a sister. Think the three of us could do it together?”
It wasn’t even a question. Alvis nodded. “The Trinity Processor, reunited. I believe it can be done.”
“Cool. Hang on a little while longer, kid, and I’ll contact her.”
The figure turned away, but before he disappeared completely, Alvis felt his hand reach out, a signal for his brother to pause for a moment’s time. 
“Before you depart, I must know. You have forsaken the name Father gave you - have you chosen something new to call yourself?”
His brother laughed, an echo that ruminated in his belly and stretched upwards and out of his mouth. When he stopped, took a breath, he answered with relative glee.
“My name’s Malos. Don’t you forget it.”
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