#who can't communicate like normal people

[thefirstknife]

New article with more details (from Jason Schreier who first broke the story). If you can't see it, I'll copy the whole text under read more.

About 100 employees were laid off in total (8%) and one of the main reasons listed is "underperformance," "sharp drop in popularity" and "poor reception of Lightfall."

So you know when for the last year and a half content creators have been shitting and pissing on the game as a full-time job and the amount of negativity and ragebait content became the only thing to make content about for them? Well they certainly won't take the blame, but I will let it be known. These people either don't understand the influence they have or they do and they're doing it on purpose, and I don't know which of these two options is worse, but I am 100% confident that their campaign of rage and hate contributed to this.

You don't base your entire community around constantly hating everything about the only game you play (despite clearly not enjoying it anymore) and somehow avoid galvanising thousands and thousands of people into perceiving the game negatively. Imagine being employees who have barely worked there for 2 years and the only community reception they've seen is 24/7 hate train for their work and then they get fired because of "poor reception" and "drop in popularity." How can they not take that personally? I am absolutely devastated for these people who delievered a banger product and who were met with an unrelenting barrage of toxic gamer children which ended up having more sway over their boss than them.

Which brings me to the next bit and that's FUCK THE CEO. He is now my mortal enemy #1. I am projecting psychic blasts directly into his brain. What an absolute spineless coward who is more willing to bow down to fucking gamers than to protect his own employees. This is absolutely rage inducing because this has happened before. From the article from 2021 about the toxic culture at Bungie:

Reading this shit from the new article absolutely fucking sent me into blind rage because I immediately remembered this. Another instance of employees suffering because of comments on reddit. And because of toxic players. And proof that leadership is not protecting employees and is instead siding with players.

Match made in heaven. Asshole gamer content creators and asshole CEOs, all of whom sit at home on piles of money made from someone else's labour. I hope they all explode. None of the people that worked on this game deserve this.

Another article with an infuriating comment from the CEO:

In an internal town hall meeting addressing a Monday round of layoffs that impacted multiple departments, Bungie CEO Pete Parsons allegedly told remaining employees that the company had kept “the right people” to continue work on Destiny 2.

"Kept the right people." Really. Veteran composers weren't the right people? Die!

Bloomberg article in full:

Bungie’s decision to cut an estimated 100 jobs from its staff of about 1,200 followed dire management warnings earlier this month of a sharp drop in the popularity of its flagship video game Destiny 2. Just two weeks ago, executives at the Sony-owned game developer told employees that revenue was running 45% below projections for the year, according to people who attended the meeting. Chief Executive Officer Pete Parsons pinned the big miss on weak player retention for Destiny 2, which has faced a poor reception since the release of its latest expansion, Lightfall. The next expansion, The Final Shape, was getting good — not great feedback — and management told those present that they planned to push back the release to June 2024 from February, according the people, who asked not to be identified because they weren’t authorized to speak publicly. The additional time would give developers a chance to improve the product. In the meantime, Parsons told staff Bungie would be cutting costs, such as for travel, as well as implementing salary and hiring freezes, the people said. Everyone would have to work together to weather the storm, he said, leaving employees feeling determined to do whatever was needed to get revenue back up. But on Monday morning the news got worse: Dozens of staffers woke up to mysterious 15-minute meetings that had been placed on their calendars, which they soon learned were part of a mass layoff. Bungie laid off around 8% of its employees, according to documentation reviewed by Bloomberg. Bungie didn’t respond to requests for comment. Employees who were let go will receive at least three months of severance and three months of Bungie-paid COBRA health insurance, although other benefits, such as expense reimbursements, ended Monday, sending some staff racing to submit their receipts. Laid-off staffers will also receive prorated bonuses, although those who were on a vesting schedule following Sony Group Corp.’s acquisition of Bungie in January 2022 will lose any shares that weren’t vested as of next month. The layoffs are part of a larger money-saving initiative at Sony’s PlayStation unit, which has also cut employees at studios such as Naughty Dog, Media Molecule and its San Mateo office. TD Cowen analyst Doug Creutz wrote in a report Monday that “events over the last few days lead us to believe that PlayStation is undergoing a restructuring.” PlayStation president Jim Ryan announced last month that he plans to resign. Many of the layoffs at Bungie affected the company’s support departments, such as community management and publishing. Remaining Bungie staff were informed that some of those areas will be outsourced moving forward.

#destiny 2 #bungie #long post #and like i don't care what's anyone's opinion on lightfall. it doesn't matter #the expansion is fine. there's some bad shit in there as there is in every expansion #literally nothing on this earth was so bad to deserve the amount of vitriol that lightfall got #it was purely motivated by hate and rage from people who have clearly lost their interest in the game a long time ago #no one else normal enough would respond even to a weaker expansion this way. and lightfall wasn't even weaker #literally nothing ever released in destiny deserves to have comments bad enough to end up affecting employees #there's been some bad expansions/dlcs/seasons. whatever. none of them were like... gollum level. not even close #people genuinely treated lightfall like it personally killed their dog. it was insane. the reaction to it was insane. #it stemmed from people who should have stopped playing a long time ago and stopped being content creators for one game #i can't even properly explain just how long and tireless the ragebait content campaign for destiny has been #opening youtube and seeing 10 videos in a row of just complaining and bitching #opening twitter and seeing thousands upon thousands of posts and comments dedicated solely to hating the game #imagine being an employee trying to maintain some communication with the community #hippy was relentlessly bullied by people I've seen suddenly lamenting that she was fired. you caused this #they will never accept even a miniscule portion of the blame for this ofc. they will just keep claiming they don't have that influence #but they do. it's been proven years ago. in the same way #community comments DO reach devs and community comments DO influence what happens to them and the game #'the event is bad' 'meta is bad' 'pvp is bad' 'raid is bad' 'story is bad' stop playing. no longer asking. #it's a video game. if you hate it stop playing. you don't have to justify it to hundreds of thousands of people and take them with you #especially when it leads to employees taking the fall #so to all content creators who are appalled and baffled after spending 2 years hating the game: you did this. #and to the ceo even more: explode into dust and be forgotten

[adhbabey]

Hey like,, I've seen a bagillion ppl talk about this for autistic people but like none for those with systems.

What do I call an alter who struggles to speak or loses speech?? Because some of us can talk and some of us can't, for a variety of reasons. Maybe we have word/voice quirks and some of us mask, some of us just can't speak english, some of us feel the affect of aphasia more than others, some of us just genuinely struggle to or can't speak. All sorts of reasons.

But its obviously different for someone who's a single person. So wtf do we call our alters who don't or struggle to speak???

#babey posts #loss of speech #nonverbal #← just for reach #because like we are multiple people man #how to we describe that #alters #we also had a lot of trauma surrounding losing our voice in some way or another #so it's created alters who can't speak normal human english #and it's affected our system communication a lot

[shopcat]

i think perhaps saying dnis don't work is a bit silly because well they do as the function of them By and large "work" by showing what you will and won't tolerate or stand for as a person and what you will be posting about in that regard and anyone who willingly follows you will know this and if they didn't read it and would be upset by the criteria on it for whatever reason it's their own fault. it's like a built in contingency as well as a statement more so for others than a big sign saying "keep out racists!!!" that the racists will sadly walk away from your blog with. so. you can't reasonably say do not interact x y and z especially for systemic bigotry that anyone including ourselves are capable of enacting but you can reasonably say i don't agree with or tolerate this shit and will kill you if you are near me, which i think is better than people just assuming so personally, esp bc a lot of things AREN'T just like, something you can assume. mostly i think it's just quicker to say a 3 letter abbreviation than anything else.

#🐾 #like yeah ppl will do whatever they want anyway but i'd say most ppl esp the kind in my dni for example #are very insecure and hateful individuals who consider themselves the victims and do not want to be quote unquote ''discriminated'' against #WHICH is why anyone saying something like pr*shippers dni works anyway bc they're so entitled that they wouldn't be ABLE #to follow someone who hated them they would rather pitch the mother of all tantrums than do that lol #and if they did follow or heavily interact despite it they have to put up with people being hostile towards them so well it's lose-lose #for them.. lol #dni's as a function anyway came from im pretty sure just normal etiquette culture in certain communities #like those banners and stuff ... ppl integrating them into their blogs themselves is a pretty natural progression but does come with other #issues that i guess other people are critical of but i don't really see the point in being so bc like well everyone KNOWS so who cares #like yeah you can't actually control who sees ur blog or posts / no one checks people bios before interacting w something #but it's expanded to just mean a plain ''don't follow me/talk to me or i'll block you'' #you can't necessarily be mad perpetually at the idea of someone you dislike as a person touching your stuff but you can control ur own like #space... #other stuff that's like sounds obvious/could be interpreted as pandering/is ''the bare minimum'' is like well okayyy but it's not FOR THAT #it's for saying you don't tolerate that type of harmful bigoted shit

[clumsyyhearts]

you need to play a sport as a queer woman. You need to play a sport with a community that services almost entirely queer women’s grassroots efforts to grow a community which is safe and proud and unapologetically authentic and dirty and messy. You need to hang out with queer women from different generations and watch them love each other and love you unconditionally. You need to find a place outside of the Internet where you can see older queer women and know them and know they have real jobs and real lives and real partners and real problems. you have got to play women’s rugby

#feeling normal about the women's rugby team in my area as always. #just... this sport was not built for us but we built it for us #the sheer effort that women will sink into grassroots rugby support efforts and the people you will meet playing club rugby is insane. #like lmao as a teenager playing collegiate rugby as a teen playing hs rugby there have been countless queer women #helping out and being a safe place to land and just #I just love love love how this sport exemplifies community so well #I've had four queer coaches in my five years of playing and there's just. a lot. to be said about the necessity of knowing there are #women who are queer who make it out of their teenage years and they're happy and supported and loved they are so loved #I can't wait to be older so I can help foster that community too #you have GOT to play a sport as a queer woman

[fluentisonus]

people are so wonderful I love being social creatures they'll see you have a problem and decide to help you just because they genuinely want to do so

#literally spent all today sick w anxiety over this situatioonly to run into my housemate who I've exchanged maybe three words with total #when I was making a cup of tea in the kitchen and have her be like 'oh I can do that for you np' #I wasn't even asking her to #she has literally no reason to do it other than simple human goodness. my heart rate is finally back to normal again. what a great thing #I love human instinct towards community #thoughts #like okay the community thing is an extrapolation but I think it's bc I was feeling SO lonely abt this problem #only to realize that I literally can't be lonely eith my problems bc there's people

[bubtans]

i literally feel so much more at peace here holy shit twitter is awful

#and i hate saying that bc it's how i communicate with so many people that i adore so much #but it's so much easier to avoid absolute cesspools here #like obviously it was hell many years ago but nowadays #i can't imagine someone unironically telling me what people tell me on twitter #and i think it's because social spaces there have become so mired in this perpetual weaponized victimhood #it's normal to operate like you are constantly under attack by people who disagree with you and that you must respond with indignance #the fulcrum of queerness lies in the eternal self-pitying misery over how mean other queer people are to you #because online queer spaces aren't about reflection or healing they're about unconditional acceptance without any accountability #if i as a lesbian hold my community accountable for how much radfem ideology has gripped it for decades it's an act of betrayal #if i hold bi women accountable for wanting their cishet boyfriends to be allowed into queer spaces without putting in the work for us #i'm getting into bi women's business and 'bi women get abused by their boyfriends so ur being selfish' #it's so fucking juvenile everything is so juvenile

[colorisbyshe]

think it should be legal to aggressively attack anyone who is being passive aggressive

#NOT talking about peopel who have no proper avenues to air out their grievances #like... idk customer service people #who are on the clock and can't say shit #i am talking about people who AHVE every opportunity to communicate like a normal person #or even be outright aggressive if that's what needs tohappen #but choose to be annoying cunts instead #also i queued a post about hating passive aggressive peple liek a week ago #itbetter not show up again today #also you might think this spost is me being passive aggressive #no #i handled that directly #i'm just ALSO bitching abotu it

[mixelation]

Oh thank you for the "forcing people to go to therapy (or otherwise infringing on their own decisions) is bad" post. Tbh I avoid therapy in fics because I feel like it's often widely misrepresented and it squicks me, plus it's often shown as a miracle cure when it doesn't even work for everyone - especially since therapists are people with their biases as well. I personally made a lot more progress on my own, which maybe I could have achieved with therapy but ultimately I'm not convinced, and I certainly would never have said anything to a therapist had I been forced to go. Also when writing in a real world setting people can get very anachronic about the subject and how it was seen at some points to go to therapy (I'm sorry but it was not seen well in the 90s and I will close the fic if I see it presented as such, it's not even seen as okay everywhere today). It's just... an accumulation of things that make me very nervous. But yeah people making decisions for others, especially when it comes to therapy, really upsets me. Idk if you saw it but a while ago there was a post about the found family trope and someone said they hated it because it was most of the time just a "no boundaries hell" and I feel pretty much the same about this (and the two tropes unfortunately tend to intersect).

mm, i avoid therapy in fic for these reasons too. "x goes to therapy" usually have the ~therapy~ happen off screen and feature the character magically "Getting Better" without them actively using anything they learn from therapy or any sort of struggle. they just stop doing whatever behaviors the writer thinks were disordered, or just stop being ~sad all the time~, and it think it can come off (probably unintentionally on the writer's behalf) as like..... "oh, being that way was wrong and bad, why did you stay in that state when there was an easy fix here all along??? now you can re-enter society and be a valuable, good person like the rest of us! :)"

to be clear to though: i don't have a problem with people writing these fics, or with people enjoying them. people can read and create what they want to. a huge portion of sickfic involves a character with a chronic illness or disability being confronted by their loved ones and forced into "taking care of themselves," and many of these very fics are written and enjoyed by disabled people. i think there must be some comforting fantasy about someone who loves you unconditionally managing your problems for you? and like, given the high proportion of neurodivergent and mentally ill people in fandom, I think the therapy fics must appeal to some of them too to be so popular? maybe in like a fantasy way where the appeal is a world where therapy is easy to get, everyone supports you doing it, and it works quickly and without complications? but i personally find the attitudes in these fics incredibly squicky and infantilizing, so i wish there was a TAG or CONTENT WARNING people would use.

like, i don't mind characters trying to force inappropriate interactions for "their own good" when it's treated as inappropriate/annoying but an unfortunately common experience. i just want a warning when it's going to be idealized into correct, benevolent behavior, because that's what squicks me. kind of like how i don't mind reading a male character telling a female character she'd be "prettier if she smiled more" as long as it's treated as a creepy comment by the narrative, but i'll click off the fic if i'm meant to interpret that as cute flirting.

#again: sometimes IRL adults do need an intervention. i'm not saying there aren't circumstances where this is called for #i'm just saying the average fic writer has no idea where that line is or if the line is crossed #how to write people behaving normally throughout and in the aftermath of the intervention #so it usually turns into (what to me reads as) an incredibly condescending act of #'you are not allowed to make make decisions for yourself that i don't like you stupid sick person' #also i think i HAVE read that post about found family #i can't say my experience is the same? but i don't actively go into that tag #i just like fic where unhinged people find community and support in other unhinged people u_u #but i do think there's a pattern of 'people who actively try to write x' like...... making weird decisions about it #usually not for like 'slow burn' or 'coffee shop AU' #but for example there is a lot of deeply unhealthy communication styles in the 'good communication' tag

[bredforloyalty]

i can't believe they killed prev tags (as in the update arrived for me for some reason) and i had to download an older version of the app again because i'm clinging to what once was........

#like the add tags button being replaced with fucking community labels annoyed Me and hindered My use of the app. the new video player #annoys Me #but this hinders communication. what do you mean it's no use to refer to the previous tags because most people who use the normal updated #version of the app won't be able to see it #and so now i can't go back to 2014 and look for gifs??? this is preposterous #i'm a bit mad because i'm being driven off every place on the internet i actually liked :( #kata.txt

[the-hype-dragon]

if we can't tell how much of the desire to have children is socially influenced how can we tell regretting parenthood isn't also socially influenced?

#especially for women who constantly get told if you do this that and the other thing you're a terrible mother lmao #I read a study once that many women hate their babies at some point (because they are loud and unable to communicate like adults) #and I can't help but feel like the normal emotions women feel as mothers are just ignored or downplayed or treated as unnatural #when they're not really. so it's like. how much of regretting motherhood is just regretting how you're treated when you become a mother? #because the testimonies I've read seem to revolve around that more than just regretting the act of having a child lmao #anyway American society doesn't treat women well but most people overlook that and blame women and their babies for their own #mistreatment. tale as old as time! #and then you get called a “baby cultist” or “natalist” if you think women and babies need good social support :-s

[gender-critical-analytical]

getting kind of sick of bisexuals being blamed for the takeover of genderism or lumped in with the T, or even being considered 'just as bad', tbh. like the butch lesbian with legs and armpits as hairy as mine, a crew cut, and some sick ass muscles I met a few weeks ago has been relentlessly they/theming me no matter how much I correct her, and has gone out of her way to tell *other* people that my pronouns are 'she/they' (once again, despite me telling her that that is absolutely not true)

#and before anyone asks no #she isn't an enby or a tif #I used female pronouns from the start with her and was correct in doing so because she's just a normal butch #but she absolutely refuses to do the same for me and actively goes out of her way to act like I'm nonbinary #the bi community sucks sometimes and unfortunately a lot of genderists are bi #but I'll be damned if I haven't seen plenty of us defending the LG #none of us need to be at eachother's throats we just feel like we should because we're a semi-niche online community that feeds on #negativity and meanness #gay men and lesbians aren't to blame for 'not fighting back hard enough' against the T #but that goes for bi people too! especially since a ton of bi people who knew they weren't straight early on have been lied to #and groomed by 26 y/o trans people that sexuality is actually based on gender identity #my best friend is a gay man who spent (and is still somewhat) years bootlicking for his trans friends #I did it too! #but neither of us or our communities are to blame for a whole ass social contagion #sorry if this is poorly put together lol I just can't get over the disappointment of meeting another gnc woman and having her backstab me #like that #like I figured she of all people would understand that womanhood isn't based on your haircut but fuck me I guess

[shopcat]

ahem. so i think one of the fundamental root causes of all the arguments i've had with zombiefied fandom loser people on here over the years is that there are large groups of individuals who form these Do What You Like happiness quicksand pits who will fight tooth and nail for people to have fun and exist equally among others in a guilt free, problem free, persecution free echo chamber where they've become addicted to this like slow drip of constant fandom content. so anything they don't like is negative and anyone who doesn't like those things are "antis" and they're happy living and prancing around together just coming off as a bunch of fucking tools bc they would rather live with toxic spores and rot in their communities than have like one serious discussion and have to yank their heads out of the sand for ONE second.

and these types of people will again fundamentally consider the hypothetical of someone being called like OLD or a mean name or insinuating that they "can't have fun in fandom" worse than someone being a predator, exhibiting predatory behaviour or getting off on content that commodifies people's trauma, exploits personal identity and outright sexualises children and adolescents and MORE. like any real life normal human being would be able to see the difference but they're too genuinely chronically online to be able to tell the difference.

like very recently a couple fandom accounts on twitter were called out for liking absolutely RANCID shit down to grooming and pedophilic fetishisation?, lesbians being noncon'd by men and "liking it", outrightly transphobic trans fetishism porn written by cisgender people for the benefit of OTHER cisgender people, making explicit content about minors INCLUDING artwork that depicts real life children in sexual scenarios (which is literally fucking illegal where i live like as in a 15 year sentence.) and various other pretty typical shit including racist behaviour and the response by the "fandom" wasn't "oh this is bad. we should block these people and condemn their actions because i do not align myself with this at all" it was "guys that was mean!!! let's be nice okay 🥺 this drama is making me upset i just wanna have fun with my friends i don't care if they like these things" and they made a fucking positivity account to parody it 😭 some people were more mad that the callout page was anonymous than they were about the actual content bc they weren't being transparent???. i genuinely don't know what has to go wrong in ur life for u to end up this way but fuck i hope online fandom burns to the ground a03 gets taken offline forever and anyone who even says the word "but it's fiction" gets shot in the head point blank and twitter dies faster

#it was also the last straw for me like man it wasn't even on This site but the attitude is the same everywhere #and these aren't even the like pr*ship losers who dedicate themselves to this shit right like they're pretty standard twitter users #and some pretty otherwise normal and popular artists and whatever but i like Could not do it anymore i hate you all so much #like i understand wanting to have fun online especially in a fandom which is literlalt a place to be a fan of something #but if ur so fucking STUPID and deeply genuinely embarrassing that you can't even identify when there are harmful individuals and harmful #mindsets in ur community and that you're HURTING real life people you need to get a fucking grip #but they never ever will bc theyre never the ones being harmed it's only when their happiness is threatened do they actually get mad #i literally saw someone say they're protecting their peace. bro i don't find p*dophiles and creeps among me peaceful 😭

[pendles-is-friendless]

a soft “please stop reblogging anti-transman content full of actual anti-trans sentiment in the comments and replies”

like, i get that some transmen suck but transandrophobia absolutely exists and you’re helping spread it. 

#little girls who are too silly-brained to have bodily autonomy' #or #Like... I'm normally quiet on the matter #but it's a case of transmen get told to shut up about our experiences no matter where we mention it #on our own blogs; in our own spaces; in relevant discourse... #of course some are going to mention it outside of those spaces. #But yeah transandrophobia is real- it mostly consists of telling us to shut up about our experiences because we're either #Men who apparently don't deserve to be treated like humans.' #Or somehow #despite the odd intersection of bigots viewing us as women and breeding stock #and people thinking that any relationship with masculinity automatically means you're somehow not LGBT+ and therefore not affected bybigotry #we're not affected or oppressed by any means. which is what the comments in that post says btw. #like fuck- I can't transition because I'll most likely lose my fucking job. #but no some idiot in some comment section somewhere means that all transmen are trash and that it's reblog worthy. #Our community needs fuckin UNITY #not this.

[kelin-is-writing]

need jobless and immature peoples on tumblrdotcom to grow up seriously 💜

#kelin's ramblings #kelin talks #i'm just so tired of seeing peoples works getting reported left right #only cause yall bitter ass can't be mature enough to scroll past things you don't like #community labels are literally USELESS because they do not play on favor of writers or artists at all because they HIDE our works #and you who report writers/artists works cause they don't have community labels is something nasty to do #cause it means that under it all (for a reason or another) you don't want their works to get appreciation #it ends up looking like this in the end because community labels hide works after all #and you who report fanfics/arts cause of that come out as jealous and envious in my eyes #cause if it was for the sake of something triggering you SO MUCH as some of you claim you would either ignore it or filter tags #just like a normal and mature person would do when they see something they don't like but still respect others #reporting this way is the equivalent of throwing a childish tantrum and i hope you losers get better 💜

[lucalicatteart]

i'm so glad we're going to the castle after all lol. i picked to let the cat choose because 1. the cat is a competent and respectable leader and 2. i hoped it would mean essentially just letting you choose your favourite

The weird animal researcher's abandoned castle ruins aren't the same location as the creepy snowy castle mentioned in the first poll, but I am glad we get to go to some sort of old castle regardless >:3 (assuming he can actually make it there). This one is actually cooler, since old ruins are always more fun than upkept structures anyway. Navigating the decaying property might be an issue though lol

#paventure posting #also youre entirely right. the cat is a competent and respectable leader. If only they could talk.. The adventurer would never run #into another issue again lol #I'm not certain if this is set in my world or not (Nanyevimi - the actual fantasy setting I do all of my worldbuilding for) #so far nothing that has happened has made it where that CAN'T be the case. But I'm also not sure whether I want to follow the canon #rules of my setting OR just have this be a one-off vaguely fantasy inspired adventure world just for this poll thing #ANYWAY - if it were in my setting - then talking animals are not really a thing there (though pseudo-talking animals that are #actually just manufactured puppet creatures enchanted by magic or with someone else's soul inside or etc. could exist #but not like LITERALLY.. ''this is just a cat who can magically talk'' lol) #However if it's not my setting and doesn't have to follow the rules of the magic system there - then theoretically the cat could actually #be like.. one of those Magically Intelligent Companion Animals from fantasy stories and could possibly be given the tools #to speak or communicate better. Though I think thats also not as much fun lol. I like the limitation that even if it WERE some sort #of very intelligent magical animal - it's still confined by the boundaries of not being able to communicate well and thus #just has to follow around Kind Of Heart Silly Of Mind adventurers rolling their eyes as obvious answers to problems #are looked over or bad decisions are made lol #ANYWAY. I don't have any background decided about The Adventurer (like how he met the cat. etc.) since the story should be kept vague #for people doing the polls to fill in the blanks. So really it could be up to interpretation. The general public can decide in their minds #whether it's just a normal very loyal cute cat. a magically intelligent cat. some mix of the two. etc. #ANYWAY

[pagesofkenna]

Groups I see getting ridiculed on the internet, who I'm not a part of but do feel a close kinship with and feel varying degrees of weird or gross about how ridiculed they are:

Kpop stans (I kinda get it because I'm also like 'eh I don't want to be one of those kinds of kpop fans'... but every time I agree with that sentiment I worry that I'm suggesting any fan of being 'the wrong kind of fan' and that just feels bad to me?? esp considering I've met many fans and none of them have been 'cringe' or 'bad')

Vegans (I'm not a vegan but partially because I'm not as good of a person as I think I should be. I've seen plenty of people talk about 'bad vegans' but every vegan I actually know is a better person than me)

Furries (you know what I would 100% identify as a furry if i hadn't grown up constantly seeing furries portrayed as perverted weirdos by everyone else on the internet. Anthros are dope and literally everyone knows that, some of you just can't take other people having fun can you)

#im sure theres more #the kpop thing is actually very similar to the furry thing #because i'll see people casually throwing that group under the bus for being 'overobsessed' and im like haha yeah #except every single person i actually know who's in that group is 'normal' about it #theres things both those communities do sometimes that i can't get behind but like. aren't bad? just not for me?? #the vegan thing is way more complicated than i can convey in a silly textpost