#we KNOW how bad the crusades wer

[ruthlesslistener]

Frankly i am so tired with "PK and WL" are colonizer... first, she is an ancient tree, she probably was born in hallownest eons ago (she probably CAN'T move around great distances so she either hided during the radiance time or was saw as a minor deity), in other hand, the people who worshiped the void was wiped out of existence due The Radiance "you are with me or you are my enemy", at least PK was "all right you other gods stay in your lane and we all ok" (+)

(+) they are gods, they dont really understand (or care in some cases) mortal lives...even Unn who is the most hands off (ha) of her followers, she hide herself and left them to believe she abandoned them to the plague.

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Yeah same here, though I'm hesitant to say that PK was in any way better than the Radiance because Unn herself is pretty damn old, which indicates that she and Radi likely lived in harmony before PK bc they weren't fighting for the same caverns. But hard agree on WL being native to Hallownest's caverns, because her roots are spread all over the kingdom, which indicates that she lived in Hallownest her whole life. So she literally can't be a colonizer, because these are her native lands, she just didn't have power at the time- AND she married the Pale King, whom she is still very fond of even after his death. The Radiance, on the other hand? We got no idea when she came to Hallownest, let alone if she was hatched there. What we DO know is that the Void civilization appears to be the oldest instance of bugs and gods in the caverns, and that they mysteriously 'dissapeared' before the Radiance gained power, which leads me to believe that they are the true natives and she was the one that destroyed them- esp. since Seer mentions how she tires of 'history's repetitions' when talking about the gods

Also, the thing with Radi losing power? It wasn't because of some violent takeover, as PK himself didn't engage with her directly. He literally just convinced the moth tribe to change sides. Sure, these are just the developer notes, but seeing as the idea persisted to the final game, I don't see why I shouldn't accept this as a somewhat rough explanation of what happened in canon

And like. Don't get me wrong here, I'm not defending what PK did or claiming that what he tried to do was justified, since this sort of shit is really serious and could count as cultural genocide. But it's important to note that the moths managed to keep their culture through the years and that there is no mention of the Pale King himself being the reason they died out, so it's likely that they were simply incorporated into Hallownest after he took it over. I don't believe his claims that he gave bugs mind in the slightest, but after seeing how Radi herself seizes control through the infection, my guess is that she likely did not allow anyone but her moths the freedom of will, and all he did was break that control. Radi gives me very Bad Christian God vibes tbh, in that she only allows you to accept her rule and will brutally punish you if you don't follow her every whim, so I really wouldn't put that sort of thing past her. Count in how she has an angel aesthetic vs Grimm's devil aesthetic, and it becomes even more apparent. Really Radi is more of a crusader than anything else, determined to burn out what she considers to be her enemy- the void- despite it literally just vibing otherwise

I also really despise equating what the gods did to colonization, because actual colonization is so much worse than whatever happened in Hollow Knight. We have no proof that the bugs who followed PK weren't native to the caverns, and the gods themselves don't follow along mortal ethics, either- the reason why they're securing this power struggle is because they NEED worship to survive, so if anything, they're like giant animals fighting over resources, caring little for how their followers live or if they get trampled in the process. There's also no proof of each of the different cultures within Hallownest being snuffed out by the current god, as they only get punished if they show deference to the 'wrong' one. Combine those points with how we KNOW there was a void civilization before Radi and that it has been OBLITERATED from the records, and, well...the lore really points to Radi being the one who initiated all the genocide, with the shift from her reign to PK's coming about simply because she was no longer as popular with her source of energy as the shiny new light in town was.

TDLR: What the gods did is in no way even CLOSE to colonialism, and even if it was, then it would be the Radiance's destruction of the Void Civilization that would be the closest instance of it, while PK (WHO IS STILL IN THE WRONG BTW IM NOT DEFENDING HIS ASS) just kinda booted her out and took over the shop, perhaps because he just so happened to fall in love with another god that was already living there (WL).

#hollow knight #anon #reply #the radiance #the pale king #the white lady #pale king #white lady #radiance #hk #tumblr learn the difference between annexation and colonization for the love of fuck #im also not dissing on radi here btw #i like her as a character #but dear fucking god my family is from an islamic country #we KNOW how bad the crusades wer