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I'll admit, I ugly laughed.

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hey chai, long post incoming--i'm slowly chipping away at a draft of a vivzie drama masterpost i'll be phrasing as "why are people mad at vivziepop" for new-comers. i'll be including screenshots where i can and small summaries for things. that said, this is my rough list, have i missed anything that you can think of, or any specifics you think outta be mentioned?

VivziePop General Issues - Some from the Past that still happen in the Present

Inability to Handle Criticism / Confrontation

Transphobia

Misogynistic Tendencies

Issues with Improper Crediting / "Stealing" Ideas

Liking Tweets of Fans and Otherwise Who Agree with Her / Praise Her / Defend Her

Most of both her series’ “charm” is thanks to people other than her

Despite having two "LGBT+ friendly" series she primarily focuses on gay men and hasn't been the most LGBT+ friendly in other areas (acephobia, transphobia, lack of rep for queer women/wlw, thinks polyamory is just an excuse to cheat)

Conflicts between Vivzie putting forth an image of a struggling small-time creator who pulled herself up by the bootstraps and made it VS. circumstantial evidence that she is very well off financially and always has been; had her schooling paid for, spent a summer in Paris, takes expensive trips, makes expensive purchases, and lives in a million dollar house with multiple bedrooms and a pool

Testimonies of Ex-Employees and Friends

Erin Frost

KenDraws

Salem

VivziePop “Canon Events” of the Past and Present (20??-Present)

The Snake Tub & Creepy Fanart

Blaire White Fanart

Nazi Sausage Party Fan-Characters from blog “i-hate-jewce”

Starvader Drama

DollCreep / JayJay/Jiji Drama

Viv guilt-tripped a Patron for trying to get at least a partial refund for a financial emergency--many feel that while Viv was in the right for not wanting to refund the Patron, she handled it extremely poorly

Viv's 2018 "Apology"

Support of Angel Dust x Valentino as a “r*pe ships”

Her sister apologized on her behalf to someone she cyber bullied and her sister cited Viv as “having a problem” cyberbullying people. [Kedi's consequent reaching out to the sister having heard she was being a mediator for said person resulted in Viv saying Kedi was stalking her family.]

Viv kicking the original Hazbin Hotel pilot cast after saying she’d fight to keep them onboard [Michael has stated it was not a union issue and explained how he was even willing to shoulder the cost of having him on the show but was still let go.]

Viv saying redesigns are "disrespectful"

VivziePop Opinions of Other Artists

“I could destroy her” and everything else shitty she said about Kyra -- Kyra’s "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" comic & tweets People Suspect Are About Vivzie

Calling Tracy Annoying

Ashley (Creator of Far-Fetched)

- Viv wasn’t happy with Hunicast’s popularity (mainly run by Ashley) and was mad people were mistaking Ashley for the creator of Hazbin Hotel despite Ashley always making sure to correct people. - Viv learned something personal about Ashley that she used to make fun of her behind her back. - Allegedly one of the reasons Viv kicked most the original VA cast of Hazbin Hotel were due to them associating with Ashley. - Allegedly didn’t like that Ashley was leaving to work on her own indie pilot (Far-Fetched)

Bullying KediKatzen for having a similar art style, accusing Kedi of stalking her and her family, cyberbullying Kedi

SpindleHorse Related (VivziePop’s Animation Studio)

Rushed, Disorganized, Unprofessional Productions

Favoritism by Viv

“Cliquey” Behavior from Executives

Tight Deadlines

Underpaying

Working on other projects / working multiple jobs was generally frowned upon and discouraged.

In at least two instances Viv actually went out of her way to try and keep people from being hired elsewhere. - In one she told Ashley that Erin was "mentally unstable" - In another she told Nico Colaleo (Ollie & Scoops) not to hire “her artists” aka people working on her project(s).

VivziePop Criticisms Specific to Her Writing

Being Known to Skip Development to “Get to the Good Stuff”

Revealing / Confirming Story and World Lore via Liking Tweets, Making Tweets, or Behind a Patreon Paywall, instead of writing them into the series itself

Adding New Ideas Just Because She Likes Them, with Little Regard for how they Affect the Story

Rushing Characters’ Development and/or Retconning Characters to fit New Plots / Ideas

Apparent Lack of Research, Or At Least Poor Execution, of Her Ideas, Resulting in “Wasted Potential”

Concern over Mis-Management of “Morally Gray” and “Abusive” Character / Relationship Dynamics

Concern over apparent increasing themes of Inc*st in Helluva Boss

VivziePop Criticisms Specific to Her Art / Character Design

Over-Detailed Character Designs

Confusing Character Designs

Character Designs with Too Many Colors

Art style / designs that are “not animation friendly” --As well as her personal quality of art deteriorating over time

Animation is jittery, moving too much, or moving too fast

What Happened with Lackadaisy

VivziePop allegedly wanted to be on the Lackadaisy production in the past, but didn’t get hired

VivziePop has called Lackadaisy Creator Tracy “annoying” for “being active” in an animation channel on Discord

VivziePop tweeted a screenshot of a $5,000 Pledge to Lackadaisy’s backer-kit [which would’ve given Spindlehorse an Associate Producer’s credit on the future Lackadaisy productions]

Lackadaisy Crew Member ZeBirdBrain passive-aggresively replied that “since Medrano couldn’t be bothered to share the donation link, here it is!” And that money amount didn’t matter, every little bit counts.

It was revealed by SH Animator Mel in reply to ZeBirdBrain that the donation came from multiple team-members at SH (VivziePop did not mention this in her donation tweet.)

ZeBirdBrain deleted her original tweet.

ZeBirdBrain was harassed by VivziePop fans to be fired

Fans found tweets in ZeBirdBrain’s likes that appeared to be transphobic

One of ZeBirdBrain’s friends, a trans man, spoke up in defense of Ze, that Ze had known them since before their transition in 2013 and had been nothing but supportive.

Lackadaisy Co-Creator Fable, a trans masc, chimed in that they were made aware of the tweets, they looked into the matter, and were satisfied with the explanations they were given and hoped that would be enough for everyone.

[Fighting continued between fans and Lackadaisy crew members but the general consensus from the Lackadaisy crew seemed to be that they knew Ze to be a supportive ally, the liked tweets were a debated subject even in trans circles w/trans folk on both sides of the argument, Ze uses/used her likes as bookmarks rather than using the bookmark feature, and the reason Ze wasn’t saying all this herself was out of fear the rabid fandom wouldn’t take her word for it and would instead slander her further.]

Later, Lackadaisy’s Backer-Kit campaign ended, at which point Backer-Kit begins processing all the payments.

VivziePop posts a screenshot that “Spindlehorse’s” donation was denied.

Tracy replied to Viv’s tweet professionally, saying they had explained to SH the reason for the denial in private.

Viv’s fanbase became increasingly volatile towards this, claiming Tracy was “unprofessional” and “just should’ve accepted the money” and everyone should “boycott Lackadaisy”

Tracy, on one of her servers, not only elaborated more on the Ze incident (repeating much of what had already been said), but also revealed they had actually reached out to Spindlehorse in private, well before the campaign ended, and requested that they withdraw their donation. Spindlehorse refused.

i think that's about it--and obv where screenshots are available they will be linked in the full post i eventually make.

This looks amazing to me, and also you're doing god's work; something like this was insanely needed.

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Lmaoooo would be so poetic!

Oh my fucking god.

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The contrast between Viv and Gooseworx is so funny because Viv here is busy praising herself and getting into internet arguments with anyone who breaths wrong at her shows, while liking shitty opinions she's too cowardly to say herself, meanwhile Goose is legit just vibing.

It's hilarious. Viv is an egotistical trainwreck fighting with people on twitter, Tracy is extremely professional all the time, and Goose is whatever this is.

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Sarcastic chorus has been pissing me off in these last few days. Since the new episode recently came out he's been kissing Viv's shoes HARD. I didn't watch his review of the episode cuz the title and thumbnail made me stay away, but I watched his newest video about FizzxOxzzie and in that video alone he called Striker a racist, talked about Stolas like he's a poor innocent baby to victim blame Blitz by saying that he's the real problem in the relationship. As of me typing this he just released a video about HH and I couldn't even make it 5 minutes in as he kept spewing tons of red flags. Calling HH the "crown jewel on indie animation". "People are mad their headcanons are bullshit" "the hatedom around this franchise is insane" "the haters need to shut the fuck up". Yeah I think it's pretty safe to say we lost him. It's a shame cuz his videos on HB actually started off being pretty balanced as far as I remember, but now he's either on Viv's payroll or has fully been brainwashed by her cult fandom.

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I was just thinking today - why do people care if viv is problematic or transphobic or uses too much red or whatever dumb shit when like…

she literally convinced everyone that ken was a predator & groomer all because they wanted credit??? that actually harmed their reputation and career! she should be in jail for that shit??

Damn, I wish people cared that Vivzie's transphobic. I'd sleep a little easier at night.

But yes, the stuff with Ken was straight up false, and Ken has the evidence to prove it.

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I can just SEE Viv jumping and down going: "Me me me me me!!!!"

But seriously, I bet this pisses Viv off.

Fucking humble as hell, Gooseworx is.

https://twitter.com/GooseworxMusic/status/1724582528546468310

Goose is so normal and chill. This whole thing might be easier on her if she weren't, but I'm glad she is.

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https://twitter.com/GooseworxMusic/status/1713669841536909465?t=dSrZmMrj-VgimezxVSRq4A&s=19

I'm willing to bet a kidney that they're talking about Vivs fandom

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Y'know what's funny? I read somewhere that God won't make an appearance in HH because Viv doesn't feel comfortable portraying him.

Yet Smiling Friends had Gilbert Godfried as God in an episode, ironically where their character Charlie dies and goes to Hell and meets Satan.

She literally has angels named after female genitals. Why puss out of a massive character? Viv is so full of herself.

Charlie is literally the GRANDAUGHTER OF GOD.

Yeah, you can't make a show about the granddaughter of God and not touch on that at least a little. Also, that she proudly proclaims herself to be so influenced by South Park -- South Park, which had one of the funniest interpretations of God ever -- and then gets cold feet.

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I get Sam H are Viv are friends but I don’t like him either, when the allegations came out his best defense was to pull the fucking “well maybe you shouldn’t have led him on” defense and the “well that’s just industry” bullshit we’ve seen numerous animators pro/indie come out and say the industry is a fucking nightmare and how they were also used and abused because “that’s just the industry” He practically blamed the artists/animators for being lovestruck fans working for their idol and thinking she was their friends, and their fault for being too green in the Industry. Way to perpetuate the cycle dude. Also just because she “has the literally demeanor or a baby lamp” doesn’t mean shit when that’s literally how abusers appear to lure and trick victims.

Which is absolutely bullshit, by the way, the "too green" thing. Erin Frost had to endure so much of that one, but she'd been around the industry for a while.

Fuck Sam Haft.

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Surprised vivz and her crew didn't get kicked out off places in japan since that is a culture of being quiet and polite inn public and her and her friends are always loud rude and obnoxious

And then she could have made another tweet like this, only directed at the entire nation of Japan.

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Vivziepop stans can pop a blood vassal all they want, but unlike Viv, Goose doesn't have a long shopping list of well documented harassment, throwing people under the bus, or deranged behavior.

False. Look at this outrageous and DISTURBING behavior.

#Anonymous #vivziepop mention #image reply #actual blog post #PS I'm kidding.

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I don't know if it's okay to say this or not but there's plenty of Viv patreon stuff on Kemono Party. For people that are genuinely curious. Under VivienneMedrano. No spaces. If it's not okay to pass this info along then don't spread it. I genuinely don't want to get anybody in trouble but I also don't think her patreon posts are that valuable so..

COME GET Y'ALL JUICE.

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Strikers character is just him arriving, calling out ships for being toxic, then leaving

And Viv writes him getting beat up even though he’s still not wrong

Not even Vivzie can stop Striker speaking truth to power.

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Nobody's perfect, nobody likes receiving criticism, and we're all petty and snappy and mean sometimes. But yes, I'd say you're safe in taking some comfort in the fact that even if you were a great big asshole, you'd do less damage than Vivzie just by virtue of the fact that you don't have the platform she does, and a studio full of employees who depend on you.

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Chia, I genuinely love how someone can just ask, "Do you have proof of (blank)?" Or "Can I see the screenshots of Viv doing (blank)?" And you just slap that shit down like it's nothing. You've got this sgit backlogged, locked, and loaded, and I appreciate it, but more importantly, I appreciate you.

I don't always have an answer for things, but when I do, got it right in here!

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