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dreamingmantis · 1 year

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Imagine a Miles and Gwen swinging scene that is almost like a dance sequence of weaving and leaping and acrobats, until they begin to whirl around each other as they hang on by their threads, closer and closer and closer and

#this is my beyond the spiderverse prediction #could you imagine the animation?#spiderverse #spiderman across the spiderverse #across the spiderverse #atspv #miles morales #gwen stacy #spider gwen #ghost spider #miles x gwen #gwen x miles #ghostflower #gwiles

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hobiebrownismygod · 7 months

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i have not yet seen a single discussion that between the start of the chase for Miles and the time Gwen returned to her dimension, no more than an hour passed and during THIS time Hobie managed to assemble a fully functioning analogue of the watch and deliver it to Gwen’s dimension, although I don’t think that the device for moving through the universe is simple technology. has he been working on this project for a long time? HOW LONG ago? do you have any thoughts on this?

(and sorry for my bad English! /g )

Like I said in my previous post on Hobie’s canon event and the way the watch works into it (here) I think he’d been working on that watch and his plan for a long time prior to ATSV for the following reasons.

He only stole a few parts in the movie

We only see Hobie stealing parts for the watch in the movie, twice. Once when he’s talking to Miles, which most of us noticed, and one more obscure time in the scene where Jess is first talking to Ben Reilly. If you watch Hobie closely you can see him grabbing a part from a passing Spider-person during Jess’s line, “we actually need you here right now for some reason”.

There’s no way he built that entire watch in an hour with just a few parts. There needs to be more than two or three parts to it, and he definitely didn’t decide to steal immediately after meeting Miles. He had a plan.

Nobody called him in.

We never see Jess or Lyla tell Gwen that Hobie’s arriving to help in Mumbattan. And Hobie probably wasn’t already in Mumbattan, because Pavitr looked surprised to see him as well.

Miguel also seemed angry with Hobie when he saw him, saying “I can’t with you right now”, but Hobie never gave him a reason to be mad. All Hobie did was arrive in Mumbattan, help them fight Spot and come with Gwen and Miles to the Spider Society. He didn’t mess with any canons, so why was Miguel mad at him?

He wasn’t supposed to be there.

I think that Hobie was off the grid prior to the events of ATSV but somehow, found out Gwen was in trouble and portaled to Mumbattan to help her. I think the reason Miguel was mad at him was because he hadn’t been showing up, he’d turned off his location (which I also talked about in my other post) and because he randomly appeared in Mumbattan when he wasn’t supposed to be there.

Project Bootleg

Hobie had a name for this plan. On the watch he gave to Gwen, he wrote the name Project Bootleg on it. I think he had made this plan before he went to Mumbattan and that laying the groundwork for Miles to escape, stealing extra parts for the watch, and formally leaving the Society was all part of this plan.

So to answer your questions:

Yes I believe he's been working on this project for a while.

Timeframe is probably no more than a few weeks, considering the fact that Miguel and Jess didn't seem too surprised to see him and Gwen hadn't mentioned anything about his absence.

He probably built the watch in a week, taking a little bit longer to actually steal the parts, considering that he's canonically an intellectual genius. It being a fairly complicated design wouldn't stray him.

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aloevhello · 8 months

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In ATSV, Miguel looks at a video of himself with Gabriella and at first glance it looks like our Miguel. However, it’s actually alt Miguel since that video shows him having brown eyes while our Miguel has red eyes which are a result of his spider powers. I figure this means that alt Miguel never became Spider-Man likely because he quit Alchemax, as the lab experiment there is why his transformation occurred in the first place.

Additionally, with alt Miguel having a family it indicates that this dimension is where Miguel (who was in a love triangle in the 90’s comics) chose Xina over Dana and in turn chose Xina over Alchemax. Xina and Miguel were very much in the trajectory of having a future together aka have a family before their fallout regarding Dana and Alchemax occurred. With alt Miguel choosing Xina and sticking to this trajectory, he was able to live the life our Miguel wanted to live if he didn’t give into fear and his need for stability.

Thus, when our Miguel sees alt Miguel getting killed, he sees an opening for himself to correct his prior wrongs: choosing Alchemax and losing Xina. I also figure Miguel jumping dimensions is how he’ll correct the wrongs enacted upon him in his past as him fulfilling Gabriella’s father role could be a way for him to reconcile having an abusive father in his childhood. I think BTSV will expand upon this point by revealing his true comic origins and show that him losing his interpersonal relationships (ie Gabriel and Xina) and making up for past mistakes and trauma is the reason why he left his home dimension.

I just hope at the end of BTSV, Miguel gets to go back to home dimension and see that his relationships with the people he cares about most, Gabriel and Xina, can be fixable. Additionally, I hope he realizes that he can still build the future that alt Miguel had with Xina, which includes him embracing his Spider-Man identity in that future as well.

#I’m not sure if this has already been deduced out in the fandom #but this more of my prediction/manifestation post for Miguel in Beyond #miguel o'hara #xina kwan #xinamiguel #spiderman 2099 #across the spiderverse #spiderverse

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fromjannah · 11 months

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my beyond the spiderverse predictions ☝️ (find my other spiderverse shit here)

#across the spiderverse #atsv #spiderverse #miles morales #miguel o'hara #gwen stacy #pavitr prabhakar #hobie brown #spider noir #spider ham #peni parker #ganke lee #atsv memes #jannah speaks #the alignment of everything is slightly off but oh well. L

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grendelsmilf · 3 months

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madame web was SO fucking funny i love that every single decision they make is certifiably insane but in a somehow very safe and pandering corporately-mandated way. here are some of my favorite choices:

an extended action sequence set to toxic by britney spears which stops in the middle to remind you that the year is 2003 so this song was actually just released

the villain goes to the opera, seduces an elegant woman with a single look, wakes up from a recurring nightmare wherein three teenage girls beat him up and kill him, proceeds to rant at this woman whom he’s just met about how hard it is to know how you will die someday, reveals that he is aware that she an nsa agent, and poisons her while he forces her to tell him the roughly 8 digit code that grants you access to every single security camera and government database in the entire world

one of the girls from girls is his assistant who tracks down three teenage girls for him by making composite sketches of their faces just via his own memories of his dreams. also, they are all wearing masks in his dreams, so how he was able to define all their features is extremely unclear

the fact that spidey powers originated from an indigenous tribe in peru does retroactively imply that every spider person within the spiderverse canon is performing an egregious act of cultural appropriation

adam scott plays UNCLE BEN, but because sony doesn’t have the rights to say the name “peter parker,” they are constantly finding ways to imply that he is, in fact, ben parker without outright saying it. we do see peter parker being born (i guess this spiderman was born in 2003?), but i’m not sure why we’re supposed to care since all of the girls (apparently) seem to have way cooler powers than he does

that said, we only see the girls use their powers in dreamlike sequences of the future. at no point in the present timeline do any of them use their powers whatsoever. except anya does have the power to be a #WomanInSTEM, so good for her.

dakota johnson’s cassandra webb, or “cassie,” (very normal thing to name your daughter who has spider-fueled powers of prophecy btw) cares for a stray cat who represents her own role as a “stray” as an orphan who grew up in the foster system (this is not subtle by the way, she literally says to the cat “gotta look out for fellow strays”). to illustrate that she is secretly a warm, nurturing woman despite her aloof and awkward veneer, this cat’s name is literally “cat.”

the villain of this movie never actually explains his motivation for seeking power beyond the fact that he had a difficult childhood. no details of his childhood are ever revealed. he is not given a single redeeming quality or even a reason to care about him. he is played by césar-winning and bafta-nominated actor tahar rahim in what i can only describe as the worst performance i have ever seen outside of a middle school play. he dies after being crushed by a giant letter S from a pepsi sign. you know. like a bug.

it’s never really explained why being bitten by a spider gives one prophetic visions, beyond the tenuous notion that to see the future is to “weave a web” of sorts. however, despite the fact that we establish that the villain can also see the future, despite having been bitten by the same magical species of spider, he never once is able to predict the future when it counts, such as foreseeing that he should dodge a falling giant letter S.

there’s an extended sequence dedicated to establishing that cassie’s colleague (who later dies in an ambulance crash) cannot grill for shit. as she sips from a refreshing can of pepsi-cola®️, she lambasts him for fucking up their burgers. this is the only piece of characterization they establish for him before he dies.

at the beginning of the movie, cassie receives a very earnest drawing done by a small child in thanks for saving his mother (she’s a paramedic). cassie very awkwardly refuses to accept the drawing, kind of just makes one continuous whine with the corners of her mouth until the entire family is weirded out enough to leave, and then complains that she has no idea what to do with the drawing, and will probably throw it out. we are meant to like this woman, probably.

cassie is a professional paramedic, but a hobbyist car crasher. she drives not one, but two stolen vehicles through the walls of buildings throughout the film, and it seems to be her go-to strategy in any fight.

cassie is allowed to fly internationally despite concurrently being very publicly wanted for the alleged abduction of three teenage girls. we never see her move through the airport despite the film heavily focalizing the issue of mass surveillance and preemptive criminalization in 2003 new york city, so i guess it just isn’t an issue for her. yet another win for white privilege

after cassie experiences a near-death incident on the job that triggers her latent powers of prophecy, her doctor recommends that she take the week off to get some rest and “watch old movies.” cassie clearly considers this to be sound medical advice, as in the consecutive scene, she is shown to be watching an early version of a christmas carol (in the middle of summer) and clearly feels a strong enough bond with scrooge that she feels comfortable speaking to him through the screen as if he were an old friend.

cassie has a vision of her mother researching spiders in the amazon before she died, and almost immediately yells “WHY DID YOU HATE ME!!!!”

cassie’s quest to save three teenage girls she doesn’t know ultimately results in the deaths of many more people, including multiple cops, train passengers, diner patrons, chopper pilots and people she may or may not have hit with her stolen taxi and/or stolen ambulance. but at least julia, mattie, and anya are safe!

after cassie is blinded and paralyzed(?), her entire personality does a 180 and she becomes a very creepy, ominous woman who serenely predicts the near future of her three adopted teenage girls, illuminated by a giant, weblike window. this is all done in service of setting up the sequel that sony clearly assumes is a given.

cassie attends her colleague/best friend’s sister’s baby shower (who happens to be played by emma roberts, and who also happens to be peter parker’s mother) and is for some reason corralled into playing some baby shower games, including “describe your fondest memory of your mother on a small strip of blue paper” (which cassie deliberately leaves blank, leading to a very awkward explanation of her mother having died in childbirth, but don’t worry, you’ll be fine) and “guess the name of my baby” (which is never actually revealed, because sony apparently has the rights to the name ben, but not peter).

anyone else really craving a nice refreshing can and/or glass bottle of pepsi-cola®️ rn, or is that just me?

#o #madame web #navya pls feel free to add anyth i might have missed #100

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shizukateal · 10 months

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In honor of Across The Spiderverse going digital, here's the Beyond the Spiderverse Prediction Bingo!!!!

Explanations below the readmore:

Spider Ham's Chekov Hammer: simple enough to guess, I'm just really waiting for that to pay off, preferably over Miguel's head.

Spider Noir and Hobie get along: just some good ole' fanservice.

Miles G. is actually a dork (he's just better at hiding it. mildly): Wow, great introduction Miles G.! Very suspenseful and intimidating!! Let's see how long you can carry that demeanor without breaking.

Margo / Miles (Miles G.?) / Gwen Love Triangle (Pavitr is annoying about it): Pass the popcorn everyone. How resentful will be Miles when he meets Gwen again? Is getting the spider-band together enough for him or is it just the first step into making amends? Maybe he feels more grateful towards Margo (and Hobie) and will give Gwen (and Peter B.) the cold shoulder for a while. Will Miles G. also enter the ring? Maybe this one really cute comic by @bubblypinkfreak will become true.

Jess Drew Subplot (baby is born?): REAL interested in finding out why Jess would ever follow an asshole like Miguel. Also she deserves more plot relevance. And fanart. Aaaaaand I kinda want to see her husband too.

The Spot Collapses in on himself: Gonna be honest with you, people, I have no idea how they'll fight him, this just seems like the cleanest solution.

Miguel's actually just as much of an anomaly as Miles: My own personal theory, not really based on anything concrete beyond some flags I get from Miguel and some stuff I'll explain later. Basically, I think Miguel's projecting on Miles, and that's part of why his beef towards him is so intense. The only explanation I can think of is that he destroyed his original dimension, not just the one with his daughter in it, and the serum we see him take is what keeps him "stable" and "belonging" to Nueva York. Or you know, maybe just the watch, but the serum is more sus to me.

Gwen Stacy Fall Subversion: Either Gwen completes her character arc by saving Miles from falling to his death or she saves herself, thus breaking her karmic cycle of getting fridged.

Meows Morales cameo?? Pretty Please???: C'mooooon he became instantly popular and he's adorable!!!!! <3 <3 <3 bonus points if multiple miles help out to fight against Miguel's squad later.

We spend some time on Hobie's dimension: No idea how the plot would get there, but the concept art of Hobie's dimension is fire and I want to learn more about him <3 <3 <3 tell us why you almost gave up the mask, darling, and did you kill a cop in your dimension? <3 why would you feel bad about it? <3 <3 <3 <3

Gwiles Morales (he hates that name): Apparently this is how some of the staff called him. Poor guy.

The Spider-Band fights Earth 42's Sinister Six: For those who don't know, they control Earth 42, as confirmed by the art book. Nothing better to sweeten Miles G. to our heroes' side than taking care of them. Bonus points if one of them is explicitly a fascist and Hobie and Noir punch him together.

Miguel Bites Someone: bonus points if it's hot as fuck. Sorry but it's true.

Lyla's the real bad guy (beyonder): I'm gonna let moviebob do the heavylifting here. Could tie to that personal theory I explained above.

Peter B. vs Miguel fight redemption: ok this one I'm biased for because I personally find Peter B. more morally culpable than Gwen in their whole drama with Miles seeing as he's the adult with a kid. But also yeah, good chance for him to redeem himself in Miles eyes (or not! maybe Miles wants more from him that just standing up to a bully) and take Miguel down a peg. Bonus points if he looses a leg, because apparently that's something that happens in Spidergirl's comic.

Prowler!Hobie somehow: Not saying our Hobie will turn into the prowler, just that the connection will be addressed somehow. Idk man, it just feels like positioning Hobie as another mentor for Miles is very deliberate.

Miles feels guilty about Earth 42: Juicy source of drama between him and Miles G. as well as a free character arc about how responsibility is more than just cause and effect.

Miguel tries to redeem himself by dying but Miles won't allow him to: Miguel O'hara has several problems, and I speculate they all come from his self-obsession. Everything about the spider society is about him erecting structures dedicated to his pain to turn himself into the martyr holding reality together. So if he's finally proven wrong, it seems pretty in character to me that his idea of making amends would be to do the same thing one last time for "the right cause", being the diva he is and how he thinks you can sacrifice one person to save everyone else and all. I don't think Miles will allow that, though. Bonus if the scene parallels the one in into the spiderverse when Miles returns Peter B. home.

That one @cheezthatboiii comic / Mileswitch: because what's the point of having a twin if you can't fool people about it?

Gonzalo/Gonza Morales: The correct alternative to Gwiles if anyone during production has braincells or is latine.

Margo Subplot (family issues): confirmed in the artbook that she ended up having more plot relevance than originally planned, and even if that wasn't the case she deserves it. And more fanart.

The Spot is defeated with kindness: Ok. Before I said that I don't know how the Spot could be defeated with violence, but maybe that's not needed? He is clearly a foil to Miles after all, and I think it would do him (Miles) a lot of good to practice some radical empathy, even on someone who kinda doesn't "deserve" it. This isn't so much about him being ""redeemable"" (fandom has ruined that whole concept) so much as how much empathy the narrative is willing to grant him.

Jeff meets Gonza before Miles reveals to him that he's Spiderman. He's confused by having 2 sons: this just feels to me like the most probably sequence of events given the franchise's usual use of bathos and subversion of expectations.

Spider Support Network Finale: No more spider society authority "correcting" the multiverse, every spider-person gets a watch so their friends can come over and lend a hand and prevent as many deaths as possible.

Aaron 42 gets severely injured/dies: I don't want this to happen, it just seems like a way of trimming some fat in the cast and getting some more drama from Gonza.

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hauntedradiotower · 11 months

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my predictions for Beyond the Spiderverse: Miles Morales hits the Spot with a googly eye instead of a bagel. the warm light of understanding heals all. the end

#atsv spoilers #across the spiderverse #across the spiderverse spoilers #the spot #everything everywhere all at once #beyond the spiderverse #tx post

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galactic-artist-27 · 1 year

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My prediction for Beyond the Spiderverse-

#spider-man: across the spiderverse #the spot #look at this sad little man #my babygirl #my art don't steal please

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ahndor · 1 year

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spiderverse thoughts under the cut cause. holy fuck. spoilers abviously

• one of the best movies i have ever seen. legitimately. having a hard time forming coherent thoughts about it right now

• shameik moore’s voice acting is phenomenal. out of this world. you can feel every ounce of miles’s emotions through his performance

• SO MANY REFERENCES!!! off the top of my head: andrew garfield’s spiderman, toby maguire’s spiderman, donald glover as the prowler, ps4 spiderman, animated tasm spiderman, PS2 SPIDERMAN!!!!!

• about the love triangle. it wasnt as big of a thing as everyone was afraid it was gonna be (thank god) and it seemed like hobie had no interest in gwen at all really?? (in fact he seemed more interested in miles but i DIGRESS—) like he really just seemed like a friend to her but because miles is 15 and like. in love he overthinks things. small win for the love triangle hater community (me)

• on that note. hobie. fucking. brown. the way he’s animated was nuts, he was so unique yet he fit right in with the rest of the cast. his characterization, the anarchism, his lil quips, him and mayday?? and the way he helped miles go against miguel and eventually helped gwen too?? i cannot WAIT to see him in beyond the spiderverse

• PENI IS BACK!!!! AND SHE GOT A NEW BOT!!!!

• miles being the original anomaly omg. it makes so much sense but i NEVER would have guessed that’s part of why everyone hates him (also i KNEW the hunt for miles would have something to do with jefferson’s death. i have receipts that i predicted that MONTHS AGO!!!!)

• they knew what they were doing when they designed miguel ohhhhhmygod. also i hope we get to see more of his vampire qualities in beyond the spiderverse

• THE BEYOND THE SPIDERVERSE SQUAD IS SO SICK. gwen, peter b (and mayday), pavitr, hobie, spider-byte, spider-noir, spider-ham, and peni!!!!! THE COOLEST SPIDER PEOPLE

• literally cant wait for beyond the spiderverse. it might kill me to wait for beyond the spiderverse

#across the spider verse spoilers #atsv spoilers #across the spiderverse #im. guys please go watch this movie #its a fucking masterclass in unique animation #every single voice actor knocked it out of the park #the story is moving and tragic and beautiful #ugh. ohmygod #mars speaks

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movedtodykedvonte · 1 year

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My one true prediction for Beyond the Spiderverse is Miguel is gonna catch up to Miles and hold him back from saving his dad only for Miles to either call out for his dad or take his mask off so his dad can at least see he’s Spiderman before he dies.

Either Miles’ pleas or Jefferson’s realization and care for his son reminds Miguel of those last moments with his daughter and how he’s been forcing multiple Spidermen to be okay going through that and is practically gonna be the cause of that for Miles and either let’s Miles save his dad or saves Jefferson himself.

#cause I doubt they are gonna keep #him stuck in his ways but I wanna know how it plays out #maybe he just sees 42 miles and realizes that that doesn’t destroy universes and has like this moment of blame that it was just him #or realizes he’s an anomaly too or whatever but helps in the final act #atsv spoilers #miles morales #across the spider verse spoilers #atsv #across the spiderverse #miguel o'hara

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heraartaxis · 1 year

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OH MY GOSH

ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE??

WHAT A MOVIE YOU GUYS, I LAUGHED I CRIED AND CHEERED AND THEN LEFT HANGING (talking about the cliffhanger alright ??)

The movie opening with Gwen being mad and riddled with guilt and trauma. I like how her room was color graded it’s quiet interesting

The whole sequence whilst fighting Miguel was so good, that train scene hell yeah he thought about it ahahaha and Spiderbyte sending him back kinda felt good you know.

Miles’s parents having a convo with Gwen was so not expected towards the end, I really didn’t think it would go well.

Guys Ben Riley!! Aka voiced by Andy it was so awesome to see that I wonder if he’ll turn into CHASM because he was having trouble in the beginning we saw.

ALSO PROWLER?? Dude that’s so cool like Donald wasn’t animated and MCU spideys that’s cool. Also venom universe hello?? Also Lego uni was hilarious.

But now the queries, Gwen won’t be able to travel throughout the multiverse because her watch won’t work right and Hobie gave his to her then how on earth will he be stabilized??

Also I was so pissed when Jessica didn’t take Gwen’s side but she was monitoring her like where is was headed to. I wonder if she’ll snitch.

And the villain Spot, did not expect bagel would have so much meaning ahaha!! Well he’s turning malicious kind of I wonder what would happen as in the comics he’s not much of a threat.

The Indian Spider-Man?? Hilarious and so good the animations the vibe and how the animators studied the traditional martial arts ‘kalaripayattu’ for his fight sequence is beyond my imagination.

I reckon if we watch this movie numerous times we would be shocked by its little easter eggs for sure.

Also you know how I clocked something was wrong when Miles traveled back?? His mom looked quiet a bit older if that makes any sense like wrinkles were there and the character shape was kinda different and I chalked it up to my imagination but oh boy was I wrong. THE GAME VERSION MILES LIKE HELLO AND HE IS THE PROWLER AND UNCLE AARON IS IN CAHOOTS WITH HIS DEALINGS OH BROTHER. I’m thinking that Earth-42 Miles might try to bring (our) Miles’s father to this this universe but that seems too predictable. I wonder what they have in store for us.

BUT THE BAND GETTING BACK TOGETHER?? PETER, GWEN, PENNI, SPIDER HAM, NOIR!! With PAVITR, SPIDERBYTE AND HOBIE?? That’s so awesome dude. OUR SPIDERBAND EXPANDED.

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0rb1s · 1 year

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OK IN CELEBRATION OF HAVING WATCHED ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE EARLYER IM SHARING MY SPIDERSONA HERE ON TUMBLR AS WELL

This movie was truly phenomenal and kudos to everybody who worked on it it might as well be my favorite movie now and I'm so happy I predicted the last plot twist and truly can't wait for beyond the spiderverse

#my art #across the spiderverse #into the spider verse #spiderverse oc #spiderman #spidersona

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hobiebrownismygod · 8 months

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Miles G./Prowler Miles being jealous of 1610 Miles cuz he thinks he has the perfect life - BTSV Prediction

So the fandom has basically already established that Miles G./Prowler Miles is most likely a vigilante, and is probably going to help Miles in the next movie. So...what are his thoughts gonna be? He just found out that another version of him, one who not only still has his dad, Jeff, but is also a super-hero AND lives in a version of New York that isn't bursting into flames is in his dimension. If you look at it from his perspective, 1610 Miles' life is pretty much perfect, not considering the whole Spider Society crisis.

We have to consider the fact that Miles G./Prowler Miles is a teenage boy. And what's the fantasy of the average teenage boy(I'm not saying every teenage boy and I'm not saying only teenage boys, I'm saying the average teenage boy so don't come for me)? Being a superhero. Miles G./Prowler Miles isn't a superhero. 1610 Miles is a superhero who's able to protect his version of New York, no problems. Meanwhile, Miles G./Prowler Miles' universe can be seen on literal fire. The Prowler, despite being really intimidating and cool, isn't enough to keep New York safe. So really if you look into it, Miles G./Prowler Miles isn't enough. They need Spider-man.

Earth-42 ⬆️

Earth-1610 ⬆️

Look at the difference! I know these pictures don't really compare that well, but you can definitely see the difference in color schemes! Earth-42 is much darker and more sinister (see what I did there haha) than Earth-1610 which is lighter and easier on the eyes. There's definitely no fires on Earth-1610.

1610 Miles' dad is also still alive. 1610 Miles is heading back to his dimension to save his dad's life. Miles G./Prowler Miles never had that chance. He never had a heads up that his dad would die, and realistically, he would probably kill for a chance to have done that.

Not only does 1610 Miles have it going for him in that aspect, he also now has a group of people who know exactly what he's going through. Miles G./Prowler Miles doesn't have that. Miles not only has mentors in his Spider-gang, but he has other teenagers like Gwen, Pav, Margo, Hobie, Peni, etc... who have gone through the same thing as him and can relate to him and be there for him. From what we know, Miles G./Prowler Miles and Earth-42 Uncle Aaron have been doing this job alone. Miles G./Prowler Miles doesn't have another person his age to relate to, or anyone at all to talk to this about from what we know. Even if he has a Gwen on his universe, or a Ganke, or even a Black Cat, he's doing it by himself. Another valid reason for him to be jealous of 1610 Miles.

Do I think Miles G./Prowler Miles and 1610 Miles are gonna be friends? Yes. Do I think they're going to be able to understand each other? Yes. Do I think Miles G./Prowler Miles is going to help 1610 Miles save his dad? 100%. But he is going to be jealous. At least until he truly sees what 1610 Miles is going through emotionally, he's gonna be jealous asf. Because on the surface level to him, 1610 Miles has it good.

Whenever I look at this picture the "sinnn, sin city wasn't made for ya" music plays in my head 😭

#atsv #across the spiderverse #miles morales #prowler miles #beyond the spiderverse #spiderman into the spiderverse #spiderman atsv #atsv miles #prediction #miles g morales #the prowler #spiderverse miles #miles my beloved #miles morales prowler #miles 42 #earth 42 prowler #earth42 miles

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kurozu501 · 11 months

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my prediction for beyond the spiderverse is that we’re gonna get a big confrontation between team miles, gwen, and the spider band vs miguel and his spider society and in the end gwen will be making her big argument for why its okay to change the canon events, using her dad as the proof it doesn’t end a universe at which point hobie chimes in like “oh yeah also ive changed basically every canon event i could and my universe is fine. just got the whole list of them from miguel, then went home and changed as many of them as i possibly could bc like hell i was gonna sit back and let people die. that’d be wrong.” except, y’know, he’ll say it with a british accent.

#spiderverse #hobie brown #i just think that would be really funny #he went home and immediately got his loved ones out of harms way #no way hobie just sat back and let people die bc miguel's dumbass chatgpt said to

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thattripleabattery · 1 year

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My prediction for beyond the spiderverse

#across the spiderverse #miguel o’hara #madame web #beyond the spiderverse #across the spider verse spoilers #spiderverse spoilers

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inkymono · 1 year

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SPOILERS FOR ACROSS THE SPIDERVERSE:

My consipracy theory/prediction for beyond the spider verse is that Miguel O'Hara's backstory is full of shit and he deliberately broke canon in a different universe by killing the Miguel that was there and taking his place (not that he randomly died, bc what a lousy lie). Also, I believe the Miguel that Spiderman 2099 killed was the spiderman in that reality, causing the world to collapse after his death.

Reasons:

1. Miguel says that he found another universe where the Miguel in that reality was going to die, went to the moment of his death, and then took his place... huh???? How did he find a universe where he was able to predict that Miguel was going to die if it wasn't a canon event? Alternatively, if the Miguel in that world was already dead then he wouldn't have been able to switch places with him because people don't usually respond well when people they believed to be dead come back to life. Also, hypothetically if he was able to predict that the alt Miguel was going to die and when, it's still kind of f-ed up to watch him die (not help), take and dipose of his body, and then steal the dead man's family. It's almost worse than murder.

2. In the scene where Miguel is carrying his daughter away from the collapse, Peter B Parker and other citizens are there, but guess who isn't? That world's spider man!! Conviently nowhere to be seen during a world ending catastrophe (because Miguel killed him earlier).

3. It explains why Miguel is so personally upset with Miles's existence- Miles is someone who wasn't supposed to be spiderman and killed (kinda) and successfully took the place of the old spiderman which is exactly what Miguel wanted to do and failed.

Other things I've noticed:

1. Kingpin from the first movie and Miguel O'Hara have the same plot. They both lost their family and will stop at nothing to get them back through interdimensional travel. Goes really well with the theme of repetition in ASTV.

2. The vials that Miguel injects himself with look slightly different from each other, maybe they're filled with spider venom from different dimensions? It would explain how he has his super speed in the first scene with Gwen but not in the chase scene with Miles (where an adult man in slippers carrying a baby is moving faster than him) because it's not a feature of his suit but a temporary power from a spider bite. Is this a stretch? Yes, but it ties into my theory that Miguel created the collection of Spidermen to find one with an ability capable of bringing back his family so I'm sticking to it. (Also we know he's a bitey vampire so I think his bite gives him the powers of whoever he bites)

Just putting it here so I can either feel super smart or super dumb when the next movie comes out 💖💖

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