#there are a lot of good reasons to criticize him. esp wrt his sense of entitlement to katniss.

[rowan-guerrins]

people on tiktok well on all social media sites actually will loudly critique the fact some people (especially those who only watched the movies) “didn’t get the point of the hunger games” and then turn around and say gale is the worst person in the universe and treat him like he’s a monster, and that all these traits are innate characteristics completely isolated from the circumstances in which he lived and the people around him. like girlie i think maybe YOU didn’t get the point here either.

#obviously this isn’t to say you need to or were “supposed to” like gale #there are a lot of good reasons to criticize him. esp wrt his sense of entitlement to katniss. #but he’s not supposed to be a Villain™️ #like he’s a poor traumatized (brown coded) boy whose very valid anger was used to groom him into a perfect soldier. #kind of almost like it’s a critique on the militarization of young boys. esp those who are underprivileged. #which doesn’t excuse his actions & it doesn’t mean you have to like him #but it’s enraging when people act like he is a heartless monster who is unredeemable or whatever. like. oh that’s not…. #bonus points if they babygirlify cato and clove (and marvel and glimmer) and cry about how they’re just kids #+ “they were only the way they are bc of the capitol 🥺”. #like yes it’s a big point that they were kids groomed to be child soldiers because the capitol pressured and “rewarded” career districts #to churn out child soldiers and whatnot. but that. ok. #truly just how do you hold the belief that to an extent excuses them or at least makes them sympathetic— #—but then not extend that empathy to gale. side eye. #esp bc a lot of the stuff is taking potshots at gale to uplift peeta/everlark. #like. uh! okay! #obligatory disclaimer i don’t actually like gale. however i am at my limit on weird and bad and inconsistent takes on him. #yeah he sucks. almost like that’s because he was horrifically oppressed by the captiol + then was groomed to be the ideal soldier by coin. #crazy how that’s the point. #and AGAIN. doesn’t EXCUSE what he does. but it’s important to acknowledge bc it v much contextualizes who and what he is and does. #the hunger games #gale hawthorne #i don’t think i need to tag this in the anti tag but lmk

[starsapphire]

exactly exactly u get it !!

tim having a Taurus heavy chart esp Venus is soo big brain. genius.

I think Bruce gives off more Capricorn vibes personally? but also like a lot of them do. its just that earth sign vibe it's insane. for him I was thinking like Gemini but yk what as I'm typing this I've decided that's jason. jason has the most insane like mix of earth sign n air sign but in a derogatory way (I say as someone an earth sun with an air moon)

anyways aqua moon tim is a v valid argument I see it !!

anyways I'd love to hear your thoughts on more batfam zodiac hc bc we r on the same wavelength (no pressure tho <3)

i'm also on the capricorn bruce train (i mean come on... ambitious, driven, logical, obsessive, self-critical...) and i think his chart has to be like 90% earth signs because something is wrong with him. However in my opinion bruce is The aqua moon. independent, intelligent, curious, aloof, analytical about emotions, a little self-righteous, that's bruce!!! i think he's also a cap rising. it just makes sense. world's most saturnine loser. bruce's birthday is given as 7 october on prime earth, 7 april on earth-2, and 19 february on earth-1 but none of those make any sense to me. in my heart

jason's chart has to be so fucked up honestly. he's canonically a leo and honestly i do think that fits him... he's very dramatic, arrogant, can't handle rejection, and he can be desperate for attention (imo jason's most important trait is that he's desperate for people to prove that they love him). but he's also very driven and dedicated to his moral code. not that his moral code is wonderful but well. he sticks to it. up for debate but i think his moon sign is cancer. i don't know that i'd call him particularly nurturing but he is very emotional both in a good way and a bad way, and also manipulative (side effect of being a bat ofc) and attached. (a fire sign in moon would also make a lot of sense esp leo). as for his rising sign i'm leaning toward gemini tbh. i do think he has a lot of earth signs in his chart overall but i don't think his big 3 are earth signs 🧐

i haven't read enough damian (yet) to make any judgements for him... sorry everyone. don't worry bruce dies soon in my readthrough so i will read so much damian forthwith

cass is canonically an aquarius and i agree with that!!! impulsive, stubborn, overconfident, emotionally constipated, but with a very deep sense of justice (re: cassie's staunch commitment to the mantra of "nobody dies") and very clever and creative especially wrt problem-solving. her moon sign... i'm leaning toward aquarius (for the same reasons) or capricorn (also emotionally constipated, determined, goal-oriented, extremely self-critical). aries rising.

steph has no canon birthday sooo we get to do whatever we want. i think steph is an aries. hands down. impulsive, optimistic, dynamic, positive, determined, a little selfish. aries are so tenacious and steph's middle name is tenacity. her moon sign i'm honestly not sure... in relationships (both romantic and platonic!) she can be very insecure and possessive. she loves SO hard but she's so scared of losing people/not being loved back. i'm leaning toward scorpio but i would love to know what u think... i do think this definitely leans toward venus in taurus. her rising is Definitely sagittarius (optimistic, opinionated, enthusiastic). her lilith is in aquarius. i don't have a justification for that i just know this.

#sorry it took me a minute to reply i was making what turned out to be some very mid lime shortbread cookies #thank u for humouring meee #ask #anon

[necropsittacus]

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13. Thoughts on Admiral Holdo?

not fond of her. i tend to agree with the assessment that she seriously fucked up while she was in charge, and that the way that whole plotline was written was very white-feminist-y. i don’t like how she talks to poe at all. it’s honestly difficult to like.separate out anything i could say about holdo as a character or a person from comments on the writing of tlj, or from issues with the way Poe was written that i’m not necessarily the most qualified person to talk about--like, this is incoherent, but like. Even If you were going to make the argument that the way she treats him is justified by him being a subordinate who had made impulsive bad decisions, that still runs into that poe was established as a really good pilot who maybe shouldn’t have been written like that in the first place. and i still don’t think it’s justified there tbh esp considering the whole white woman in position of power being a dick to a man of color aspect, but again im not the best person to talk about that probably

i do feel that she Could definitely have been a good character had she been written differently, but the way that arc in tlj was actually written left a bad taste in my mouth, and so i don’t like her very much

14. Thoughts on General Hux?

unpopular opinion but he bores me. like, he’s a completely terrible person obviously, but he’s not even one of the villains i’m attached to he’s just There and i feel like i’ve heard he has more backstory etc in novels but movie hux didn’t honestly interest me enough to bother looking for it. i really only care about him wrt his impact on other characters i’m more invested in. 

16. Least favorite ships?

i don’t really like kylo with anyone. also anything involving master/apprentice i don’t generally read, unless *maybe* it’s written to be creepy, with characters where that makes sense to me? also i frequently see really niche things like padme/palpatine or something that i could honestly have lived without knowing existed but it doesn’t feel like.worth it.to complain about something all of three people write as a Least Favorite Ship

19. Did you like Yoda?

not at all. fucker is emblematic of everything wrong with the old jedi order, personally oversaw most of that, and also just gives anakin and luke consistently terrible, destructive advice. anyone who’s had to listen to me for very long is probably aware i mostly take a “the institution is deeply fucked up but there’s a lot of good individuals” approach to the jedi. i...honestly do not see yoda as one of those good individuals. he was in charge for like. multiple hundreds of years. and probably a huge chunk of the problems with the prequels era jedi can be laid at his feet. also, he personally is just absolutely terrible at interacting with traumatized children and was not really a positive influence in anakin’s life. also “yeah we’ll give him an Actual Teenager to take care of! so he’ll have to let her go! as a test! this is a good idea” what the fuck? 

also part of the reason luke was so good was ignoring yoda’s advice fight me

20. Sith Code or Jedi Code?

SITH CODE. it’s just. more interesting to me. also imo the sith code doesn’t explicitly require most of why the sith as a group tend to be bad? like “through victory my chains are broken” could just as easily be taken in an anarchist/Genuinely Liberatory sense as the “other people having free will infringes on mine so i gotta take over everything” shit that comes up periodically. also it’s interesting to me that it was like. written as a direct answer to the jedi code? that’s cool. the seven different russian translations on russian wookieepedia are also cool and comparing them is an interesting exercise in what it Actually Means

also like. not 2 be a sith apologist on main but,, the sith code i feel like parts of it can actually be taken as personally relevant for me, without any obligation to do murders or be a space wizard or whatever, if i tried to follow any kind of approximation of the jedi code it would probably make me very sad very fast

21. Do you believe Kylo will get a redemption?

considering the current state of things I wouldn’t be surprised if an attempt at that was made in canon, but I don’t think it’s a good idea or remotely the most interesting thing they could do with his character. i did like the redemption fakeout(?) in tlj. 

i feel like. there’s already enough criticism of the sequels as being an OT rehash in some ways, and kylo and anakin are very different characters but i can see how doing the same kind of ending for kylo would just be boring or repetitive. and i would be VERY surprised if they managed to handle anything where he was redeemed+lived well, honestly

also don’t agree with the take that he needs to be redeemed to maintain the themes of star wars; vader was a special case, not all sw villains get redemption arcs, not even close. and it would just be way more interesting to me if he isn’t, honestly. i want kylo to lean into the dark side more. so basically, i don’t think it’s impossible that he’ll get one but i’d be disappointed

thanks emma!!!!