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createuntiltheendoftime · 2 years

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Lou McCloud the love of my life I love you

after being found out as a woman, she stays on as a rider (naturally) and when her dumbass boyfriend starts smothering her cause he wants to protect her or whatever, her exact response is.

"If you wanna stick around, quit bein my momma and stick to bein my man" (and then she rides off to go do the route he didn't want her to do)

I literally love this woman.

#the young riders #lou mccloud #The kid

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incorrect-the-young-riders · 3 years

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Lou: I'm gonna let God fix it. Cuz if I fix it, I'm gonna go to jail

#incorrect the young riders quotes #the young riders #lou mccloud #source: tik tok

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tzigone · 2 years

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Headcanon - Kid has a whole list of boys’ names

First child is due. Kid and Lou have so many loved ones (sadly, quite a few dead) that they could name the baby after. But it seems like a child ought to have their own name, one where they’re first person their parents think of when they think of that name. So they start talking. Kid has like 50 boy names in mind, but no girl names. Not because he’s eager for a son, but because he spent a lot of his childhood thinking about names he’d rather have than the one he got.

#The Young Riders #Kid #Lou McCloud #Louise McCloud #headcanon

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rated-a-for-awesome · 3 years

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Here’s a run down on the main cast of Young Riders. At least what I remember from the show that I watched years ago. I did look up the names to make sure that was right but the rest is just from memory. This is just season one characters.

Jimmy (James Butler Hickok) lovingly called that Dumbass. Fast shooter, super emo, slightly autistic.

Lou (Louise McCloud) classic girl character disguising herself as a guy to fit in. So freaking tiny I love her. Works her ass off to save her siblings from her dad.

Cody (William F. Cody) also a bit of a dumbass but not enough of one to threaten the supreme dumbass Jimmy. Diva likes fancy shit and loves being center of attention. Got a goofy grin that grows on you. Gonna be Buffalo Bill I think.

Kid just Kid yeah I know. He’s got curly hair and loves horses. Can take a punch. Yeah that’s all I got.

Ike (Ike McSwain) who I totally don’t favor over everyone else. I love all my dumbasses equally. Ike just a little more equal then everyone else. Shiny head and mute.

Buck Cross (Running Buck) BFF with my boy Ike. Maaaybe more then friends 👀👀 taught Ike sign language so they could gossip about the boys.

Teaspoon (Aloysius Hunter). Onion eater and sauna lover. Pretty sure he was a ranger and veteran.

Emma (Emma Shannon) mama of the group and she knows it. She could definitely order a hit on someone and have it done before nightfall.

Sheriff Sam (Sam Cain) will cover up Emma’s hits. Super into Emma.

#young riders #young riders moments

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valsore · 4 years

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Tagged by @nerdgoggleson, thank you!!!! I'm bored too 😆

Three names I go by (it was five but I only have 3)

1. Rebeca

2. Rebe

3. Mami

Five things I love to watch on TV (currently)

1. Trollhunters

2. Kingdom

3. Superstore

4. Brooklyn 99

5. Movies

Ten places I have visited

1. Many beaches and volcanos in Costa Rica

2. Paris, France

3. Moissac, France

4. Toulouse, France

5. Madrid, Spain

6. Boquete, Panama

7. David, Panama

8. Panama City

9. Orlando, Florida

10. San Andrés, Colombia

Four things I love to eat

1. Pizza

2. Tacos

3. Shrimp

4. Spaghetti

Four things I love to drink

1. Coca cola

2. Frozen cocoa

3. Rose wine

4. Michelada beer (that's beer with lemon and salt)

Six favorite ships

1. Gendry Baratheon and Arya Stark (GOT)

2. Gendry Baratheon and Arya Stark

3. Gendry Baratheon and Arya Stark 😆

4. Lou McCloud and Kid (The Young Riders)

5. Nathan Wournos and Audrey Parker (Haven)

6. Alfonso de Monferrato and Amalia Flores (Salve al Rey)

Four people I tag that I think will respond and he fun

1. @thereluctantbadger

2. @fandomjuxtaposition

3. @zoyarose

4. @sneetchstar

Thank you!!!

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witchesandwarriors · 7 years

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(agron-rebel- general here!! ) 1, 11, 13, 25, 27!!

Hi!!!

1: Why did you choose your muse?

Oh wow, this is going to sound so cheesy and lame, but I identified with Phoebe a lot when I started watching the show. I was feeling alone and isolated and had for awhile. I knew from the time that I was very young that my family’s religion was not right for me. They were very much Christian and I was not. I was very much Pagan/Witch, but where I was living and raised, it wasn’t something you really should talk about to people. Like Phoebe, my birth father left when I was a baby and although I was the oldest sister, I was pretty much an outsider with my siblings. Plus, there was the whole thing where Phoebe led with her heart and I had been accused of doing that all of my life. She was the third fandom character that I role played and it just clicked and she stuck all of this time.

11: When were you first introduced to roleplaying?

Uhm… I played Kitty Pryde with a comics roleplaying group in my sophomore year of high school. I also created and played original characters set in a high fantasy world that I created.I graduated and met friends who introduced me to Vampire the Masquerade and to Werewolf the Apocalypse. Then I was introduced to chat room roleplays on IRC. In 2005 I was brought to LiveJournal and everything kind of exploded from there.

13: What was your first OTP?

My very very first fandom OTP were Jimmy Hickok/Lou McCloud from the show The Young Riders.

25: How many languages do you speak?

Does knowing several phrases in a Tolkien language count?

I never know how to answer this question. Years ago, I was able to speak three languages and was doing pretty well learning a fourth: English, Spanish, Egyptian Coptic and Scottish Gaelic. Then, after my brain surgery, I lost that knowledge – though I can usually still read Egyptian Hieroglyphs. I just can’t speak Egyptian Coptic any longer. I’m trying to teach myself Gaelic again and I haven’t started up with the Spanish, yet, because I’m not somewhere that it’s spoken all of the time like where I grew up and I am drawn more to the yearning of Gaelic and Coptic. I also want to learn Latin.

27: What is your biggest fear?

Dying alone and forgotten. It’s possibly one of the reasons I write so damn much, in order to leave behind something that says “I existed.”

I am also incredibly claustrophobic.

#ask meme #agron-rebel-general #ooc meme #i love answering these #thank you for asking!!#anonymous #I Swear I'm Not To Blame ::Answered Asks::

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kaetien · 7 years

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Ship (Valentine) asks: 6, 8, 21 and 23 please?

6. What is your most angsty ship? Cole Turner/Phoebe Halliwell from Charmed.

8. Your oldest ship; the one you’ve shipped for the longest time? Jimmy Hickok/Lou McCloud from The Young Riders.

21. Favourite thing you’ve ever created for a ship? I once created a 50 song soundtrack for a ship I was part of in an RPG for several years.

23. Have you ever started shipping a ship because of the fans? Yes, I have. I now ship the crossover ship of Jim Hawkins/Ross Poldark due to fan creations.

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the-young-riders · 2 years

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Ranch Work is Hard But You Make It Easy

Summary: Modern Young Riders AU where Sam, Emma, Rachel and Teaspoon own a ranch called The Lazy Lady where the Young Riders live and work

Notes: this ♡is Ike using sign language.

Chapters: 2/???

Total Amount Of Words: 3,030

Words Per Chapter: Chapter 1: 1,370. Chapter 2: 1,660.

Chapters In Order:

Chapter 1:

Chapter 2:

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the-young-riders · 3 years

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What does this blog post?

On this blog I will be posting

art I drew inspired by the show

Fanfiction (because there's never enough fanfiction)

observations I've made while watching the show

what I like and dislike about each episode

quotes from the actual show

edits that I've made

what happens in the show and what I think should have happened instead

Things I think everyone would say if they were in a modern setting this also includes stories that put them in a modern setting

Gay stuff soooooooo much gay stuff

#the young riders #the young riders jimmy hickok #jimmy hickok #the young riders running buck cross #running buck cross #the young riders lou mccloud #lou mccloud #the young riders the kid #the kid #the young riders ike mcswain #ike mcswain #the young riders william cody #william cody #the young riders aloysius teaspoon hunter #aloysius teaspoon hunter #the young riders marshall sam cain #marshall sam cain #the young riders emma shannon #emma shannon

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the-young-riders · 2 years

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Maybe Sundays Ain't So Bad After All

Chapter Summary: Jimmy hurt himself trying to break a horse and Cody volunteers to stay at home and take care of him for the day

(Chapter 1, of Ranch Work is Hard But You Make It Easy)

Note: this ♡ is Ike using sign language

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Sundays were the worst because on Sundays Emma made everyone even Teaspoon go to church and the only way out of it was to wake up before she did, make yourself scarce and forget or turn off your phone but today was not like every other Sunday because today Jimmy had a free pass and didn't have to go to church because in true Jimmy Hickok fashion he was injured...... again... for like the third time this month

And since Emma and Rachel don't want Jimmy to be home alone Cody seen the opportunity for what it was and volunteered to stay with him

that was an hour ago and Cody really can't tell if he's regretting his decision or if he just wants to punch Jimmy in that pretty face of his for hurting his damn leg trying to break a horse he had no business being on so soon after recovering from a almost broken shoulder almost being the keyword

and yeah okay Cody will admit that a severely sprained ankle is not nearly as bad as an almost broke shoulder however with the shoulder he still had one good arm and hand and was able to walk and fend for himself with the ankle he had to be waited on hand and foot

and Cody was almost damn sure Jimmy was enjoying bossing him around way to much for someone who's supposed to be in pain, he just couldn't prove it without running the risk of getting in trouble with Emma and Rachel and possibly even Lou and if there was one thing Cody knew for sure it was that he never wanted to be on the receiving end of one Lou McCloud's anger so he he was just gonna have to man up and deal with it

maning up and dealing with it was a lot easier said then done

Cody stood in the kitchen next to the microwave waiting for the food Emma had made to finish reheating and that wouldn't be so hard to do except for the fact that one Jimmy Hickok was in the next room on the couch watching a rodeo on TV and yelling at HIM after sending him to the kitchen to get food for Jimmy

"Cody if you don't get in here you're going to miss the opening ceremony!!!" Jimmy yelled out from his spot on the living room couch surrounded by pillows and blankets, now it wasn't exactly normal for Jimmy to be sleeping on the couch but with his ankle like it was he couldn't get up the stairs to his room so Emma, Rachel, Sam and Teaspoon had confined Jimmy to the first floor of the ranch house

Cody sighed "Well which is it you want Jimmy me to bring you somethin to eat or me to witch the opening ceremony with you"

"both"

Cody shook his head it was just his luck that the one day he thought everything would be easy it turns out to be complicated just as he was considering forgetting about the food the microwave pics that moment to go off "it's about time" Cody mumbled as he took the food from the microwave and headed into the living room "here you go nice and hot" Cody said as he handed the plate to Jimmy who took it and nodded

Cody set down in the floor with his back against the couch "ya know Jimmy you don't have to call me Cody we's the only one's here right now"

"I know that" Jimmy shook his head and took a bite of his food

Cody watched him for a brief moment before turning his attention back to the TV

a few minutes passed by with the sounds from the TV and the occasional sound of Jimmy's fork scraping against his plate being all that filled the room it wasn't that Cody minded the silence exactly it's just that he thought that maybe just maybe with everyone gone Jimmy would actually act like Cody wasn't just a friend

it's not like they ever tried to hide the fact that they are dating hell everyone knew they liked each other before they did, and when they did finally get together no one not a single soul was surprised by it

so it wasn't that their relationship was a secret because it's not that keeps them from acting like a couple in front of the others it's because Jimmy didn't like PDA that much after having his heart broken so many times and they have enough respect for everyone else not to kiss and act all lovey dovey in front of them unlike Buck and Ike who don't care who's in the room and will kiss at any given opportunity

so no it's not the silence that's bothering Cody it's not the waiting on Jimmy hand and foot and running back and forth between the living room and the kitchen hell it's not even the fact that all of this is happening because Jimmy got hurt trying to break a horse when you work on a ranch around horses and cattle you're going to get hurt it's a given they've all been hurt before

what's bothering Cody is the fact that him and Jimmy are the only ones home and Jimmy is acting like the others are still here

Jimmy set his plate on the coffee table and looked at Cody he knew what was bothering him or at least he thought he knew and if anyone asked him later Jimmy would and will deny what he is about to do ever happened "Billy" it was short and sweet and soft-spoken but it got Cody's attention real quick

Cody turned his head towards Jimmy and graned as he looked Jimmy in the eyes

"What was that I don't think I heard you?"

Jimmy shiffed in false irritation "Billy" in the same soft-spoken way as earlier but this time Jimmy was looking in Cody's eyes when he said it

"see I knew ya loved me"

"Shut up and get up on the damn couch Billy"

Cody laughed as he helped Jimmy move around on the couch so that when Cody set down Jimmy could lean back against him and still be able to keep his foot propped up

"happy now baby" Cody put his arm around Jimmy and placed his hand on Jimmy's abdomen

"Yeah" Jimmy leaned his head back on to Cody's shoulder and they both turned their attention back to the TV and started watching the rodeo that was on within a few minutes both boys drifted off to sleep

about an hour or so later the others returned home and Emma and Rachel were the first ones in the house wanted to check on Jimmy and make sure that Cody actually kept an eye on him and made sure he didn't put any pressure on his ankle

upon entering the living room both women stopped at the sight before them Cody was sitting on the couch with his back against the armrest one leg was on the couch bent at the knee and the other was on the floor Jimmy was lying down with his back against Cody's chest and his head on his shoulder with both his leg propped up on the opposite arm rest of the couch both boys were sound asleep and none the wiser about the two women standing in the doorway

"I'm telling you boys that preacher gets no longer winded with every sermon" he's been was saying as he walked through the door looking behind him as he turned to look in front of him both in the end racial put their fingers to their lips and motioned for everyone to come over

so the others gathered around the two women and looked into the living room

Sam shook his head "Well I'll be damned"

"I don't think I've ever seen them like this"

"now of us have kid"

"♡they look happy together♡"

Buck pulled out his phone and snapped a quick picture to give to Cody for later before Emma and Rachel shood them away and left the two boys alone to rest

#bill² #aloysius teaspoon hunter #emma shannon #ike mcswain #lou mccloud #jimmy hickok #the kid #marshall sam cain #rachel dunn #noah dixon #william cody #running buck cross #the young riders #the young riders modern au #mccross

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tzigone · 2 years

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Young Riders futures revisited

So, per previous post, I’ve been thinking about head-canoning TYR futures. While I definitely think that them all going their separate ways thematically suits, that’s for an ending, and I’m continuing their stories, and I just think it’s more fun to keep the non-real-person characters in the same town. So, they shall remain the pretty fictional town of Rock Creek. I’ve come up with some ideas. Thus begins my long and rambling post.

We’ll start with Teaspoon. He loses his Russell, Majors and Waddell job/salary, but he’s still a US Marshal. His wages will support him. Especially as the area grows in population – a lot of his income will come from fees and more people means more fees. Strangely, though, the place gets a lot more peaceful after war breaks out. The most die-hard believers head east to participate, and there’s a lot more opportunity for thieves to steal big payloads from either government further east, too. Missouri is a mess. He’ll be taking up with Polly again. Eventually he ties the knot a 7th time. He’s early-to-mid-50s, so maybe has 5-10 more years of Marshaling, then retires and they live on the income from Polly’s saloon.

Rachel is next. While she did have a job as a teacher, from one source I found, the school year wasn’t that long in Nebraska (an academic paper had an average of 3.5 months in 1870, and I know length of school year by 1869 law was three, six, or nine months, depending on student population size). It’s not going to pay enough to support her year-round in 1860. So she goes to work at a hotel/boarding house (in some old things I saw quite a few businesses called hotels that functioned like boarding houses for single men, as well). Possibly a maid or waitress, but she may be able to get a cook’s job, and that would pay more. After that, she’ll meet a baker, fall in love and marry him. I’m considering making him an immigrant, as there were many in the west. I will need to check old census records to see where immigrants most common came from in that time in place. He has a successful business, and brings in well more than the average wage-worker, but it’s still not nearly enough for a middle-class lifestyle (as the term was defined then). They’ll have two boys, so as to avoid the issues of the surrogate-daughter (more little sister, IMO) Lou having received daughter-jewelry. 😊 Since they do have well more than a subsistence income, they are able to save for retirement, which will happen circa 1893. Death in 1905.

Kid and Lou have rather ample funds. I gave them $1700 in savings from salary, and another $3500 from Charlotte’s stolen loot. With this money, they decide to start a business. I know horse breeding and farming are commonly used. The problem is they don’t have a railroad yet, making transportation of grain expensive and probably not a good business option. Horses have some of the same issue, though they can move on the hoof. But the market – the army is buying up lots of horses, and I don’t think Kid is going to want to support the war effort against the south, even though I’m having him choose not to go back.

So, Kid and Lou have a livery stable. The town already has one, but the town is growing a lot (as mentioned when they moved there). Buy some land, buggies and wagons, some horses, maybe some mules. Given the prices I found for them starting out, I’d say they’ll still have a good bit left over. This is where advice from Teaspoon and Sam comes in. Teaspoon can tell them war means inflation and keeping your money in your mattress is a bad idea. They are not prepared to use banks – this is the era of wildcats and in 1857-1860 almost every bank in Nebraska failed (I’ve seen numerous sources that say only one bank survived, and a couple that say six “financial institutions” did, so I don’t know where the actual truth lay). So, what to with the extra money – put it in land. Rock Creek is growing, so they buy some town lots. And, with the south seceding, the central route for the Pacific Railroad (later called the Transcontinental Railroad) is very likely to pass. And a particular fellow associated with the project is buying up land in Nebraska and Sam knows that and so they also buy some lots in Omaha.

They, of course, immediately go get Jeremiah and Teresa after the wedding (St. Joe is not a good place to be). They can change out their paper bank notes for real money while they are there (I never actually checked, but assumed the bank notes to be from a St. Joe bank). Inflation is high during the war, but they do okay. Lou doesn’t get pregnant the first year, which they’re both pretty happy about. There’s a lot of transition, and they’ve just become responsible for two children, and war is breaking out. They teach Jeremiah and Teresa how to ride and how to shoot because they need to know how to defend themselves in a dangerous world (neither is amazing at either skill, but they’re competent). They actually don’t have a child until 1864. They’ll have five in all. I’ve looked up historical records for average family, and they were larger for their birth cohort (number of children per woman will decline a lot over the second half of the century).

The Homestead Act is passed and that brings more travelers through Rock Creek and they make more money. In 1865, the war ends, the railroad finally gets started in Omaha and Omaha raises property taxes. Their lots in Rock Creek have doubled in value and those in Omaha are worth five times what they paid for them. They sell the land, and some is saved for a house (they’ve been renting) and the rest put into Railroad bonds (the sexy tech of the era). They build/buy a nice 7 room brick house on two lots and some new furniture. Jeremiah moves out, Teresa starts working. By 1868, they are doing rather well for themselves (I did look up find an actual source on earnings for livery stables in the era and kinda work from that) and can hire someone to wash their laundry (no steam laundry yet, still done by hand and more expensive). Lou spends more than typical on clothing, but they can afford it, and I think it’s canonical, given how many dresses we saw her buy.

As the railroad moves westward, everyone knows they need to get a feeder line to connect to it – if they don’t, the town dies and people move to a town that did. Business owners are particularly aware of this. Fortunately for them, they manage to sell their town as a good place for a stop, and in 1872, they get one. The railroad makes more goods available and makes goods cheaper. And is very good for business. Their income goes up. Unfortunately for them, two of the railroads they bought bonds in fail, and they lose that money. But the other two are fine, and businesses improves. Especially after the recession ends in the late 1870s. Their spending increases accordingly, as does their savings. This era is deflationary, and their income stays similar while goods get cheaper. In 1880, the town gets water and sewer and they add a sink and build on a bathroom. Steam laundry comes in 1882, and everyone who can afford it loves it. By 1892, two of their children have married and they don’t need such a big place. They sell the house and buy a smaller one with modern amenities (radiator, electric lighting, etc.). The children grow up and none of them want the livery stable. Kid and Lou have provided enough for their old age and in 1902, they can afford to retire. Lou dies in 1907, Kid in 1916.

Buck obviously had only one salary instead of two, and no windfall. But he still has a nice savings – he has about $500 (well, he has more, but that’s after keeping some liquid as a cushion) and, like Kid and Lou, takes the advice and invests in land. He doesn’t start a business because he doesn’t think white people will do business with him. He probably could have gotten a position as a Marshal with Teaspoon and Sam recommending him and his stellar record, but he doesn’t want to go chasing bad guys without someone he can trust at his back. He ends up a teamster at the local sawmill (there are so many lumber buildings and no log ones, so I think they need to have one) because I could find Nebraska wages for teamsters in the 1860s. The first couple years are tight – he has to rent his own place because the hotel isn’t keen on him, and he buys cooked meals. But things get better.

In 1862, a new woman comes to Rock Creek. She’ll end up his wife, of course. She is 20ish. Her brother is a year younger. They inherited some money from their uncle. They didn’t know him, really – he didn’t live in the same town and they last saw him at another uncle’s funerals when they were 11/12. Embarrassingly, when their own father died, it was over a month before they even remembered his existence to notify him. Anyway, she’s using her portion to start a restaurant. Her brother invested in a brewery in another city (investor only – the only thing he knows about beer is how to drink it) and got a job at the sawmill while he waits for his investment to pay off. The Homestead act has passed, and people are going to be using this route going west, so that’s why this town. Unfortunately for the siblings, their uncle was a crook, though they don’t know it. That’s why the lawyer (who did know it) advised them to sell everything and split the funds and go to some other locale. They did, for the most part, but kept a few items. There was a rumor he stole something very valuable before he died, but it hasn’t turned up on the market. So trouble has followed them to Rock Creek. Luckily, Buck is there to help. Item found, and returned.

Her restaurant does well for itself. She makes about 3 times Buck’s (below average) wage. But he did well with his land investment. He also bought railroad bonds with the proceeds (he, Kid, and Lou chatted and came to similar conclusions). Only one of his four failed. After they marry, she keeps cooking at the restaurant, but after the first child is born, she stops and hires a cook. So income is down, but still very comfortable. 1868, she hires someone else to do laundry. She sells her old location and buys a new one nearer the train when it comes through – many businesses are doing the same. Makes it a bit more upscale (but we’re talking Olive Garden or Longhorn v. fast casual, not really fancy). Income increases.

They’ll have four kids in all, with the last born in 1876 (girl, girl, boy, girl). And his wife really wants to get back to the restaurant. And teamsters’ wages have been going down bit by bit since the train came years ago. So in 1881, Buck quits his job and she goes back to the restaurant. It is, again, a pay cut, but they are still making $1,800 a year between the restaurant and the bonds. As workers come there, they tend to keep their prices (and income) rising at the same rate as workers’ income. And food prices go down. So they’re doing well. Finally close down and retire in 1902. Not sure if any of their kids take it over. They have about $30,000 altogether and think it will last them until death (banks were paying 4% interest, so they’d have $1,200 just from that. Inflation in the teens means they spent more than they’d thought they would to maintain their lifestyle, but they have more than enough. He actually lives the longest of any of the riders and dies in 1923, leaving several thousand dollars for each child.

And I did Lou’s siblings too:

Jeremiah is still a bit tetchy about Lou having left them, though things are better than they were. And he’s nearly done with schooling (I have him 13). He’s not big enough for a man’s work yet. Now, quite often the normal thing for a child in his circumstance would be working without pay in a family-owned business. As boys got older an became men, they often started getting wages in family-owned businesses (at least for native-born – with immigrants, it varied depending on where they were from). But they sort of handle Jeremiah more delicately – having them boss him at home and work might make him rebellious, as might him not getting any compensation or paid a lower wage. Plus they want to teach money management. He can’t get full-time work at first, but there’s seasonal work and odd jobs and half his wages are given to Kid and Lou and he gets to keep half. Gets a little older and starts making far more money. At that point, he just pays them what he’d pay at a boarding house - which is far less than half his wages – and pays for his own clothes and personal expenses.

By time the war ends, he’s 18. And he’s ambitious. He’s saved almost $1000 dollars over the last few years. He found out there were way too many cattle in Texas after years of them not being sold off during the war. They were selling cheap. Many moved them east to sell at much higher prices. But he decided to start his own herd. Bought them in Texas and ran them east. There’s a line down the middle of Nebraska at which it goes from green to brown and there isn’t enough water that crop growing was widespread (irrigation was too expensive for many). The land was largely unsettled (by white people) and belonged to the government and cattle rancher would graze their cattle for free on it. That’s what he does. He can’t afford all that many, even at the cheaper prices (he’s got to afford to live to until they have calves that grow up and get sold). He knows it won’t last forever – Teaspoon can tell him when “the frontier” was much further east than it is now. But he can earn money now and either buy land later or invest in something else. At this time, some big cattle owners would still allow their cowhands to mingle their stock among his and run them both to the market at the same time. Which he does. It’s seasonal work, though. He’s making more and more money as his herd grows. The train arriving nearby and making transport much cheaper helps, too. Has money coming in by 1869 and buys more heifers. By 1872, his herd can give him a gross income of over $1000 a year and he quits working for others. Buys a small plot of land to keep horses (for round up – he’ll have to supply his employees) and builds a three-room cabin and a stable.

Now, he does meet a woman. She’s a former prostitute, and not ashamed of it – she made her money without lying, cheating, or stealing. She’s from St. Louis – grew up in a family that was poor in both money and love. Her older sister married as soon as she could – got out and didn’t look back, and she thought that was a good idea. She was smart and had aspirations of middle-class comfort, but little opportunity. When she was 13 her father and younger brother died of illness. Her mother took up with a new guy that could support her immediately and left the other kids. But they were all teenagers and “old enough to look out for themselves”. One older brother did help her get a job as hotel maid and she did that for a couple years. She wasn’t in danger of starving but had a lifetime of being poor to look forward to it and wasn’t keen on it. She started hearing about how prostitutes out west could make a fortune because there were so many more men than women. And this was an era when an independent prostitute could do that – that era ended circa 1882. Without an employer taking the bulk of the money the trick is not to spend all you make – prostitution is a young woman’s game and the money dries up as she ages. I used some actual numbers of prostitutes that did earn well (the ones that invested that money and were successful enough to be remembered). She spent about 4 years working and saved up $20,000. Invested in a brickmaking business (again, I got that from something an actual prostitute did) and some others and that generated and income of $700-$800 per year for a few years until she sold out half her investments and bought some Adams Express stock.

She and Jeremiah start keeping company maybe late 1870. They marry in 1873. Thing is, she’s not willing to get married in Nebraska. She’s just not willing to risk the laws – she wants to keep ownership and control of her money and income she earns after marriage. She’s making $3600 a year by now, and he’s making about $1500 (and it’s set to grow a lot soon), so they are very well off. The biggest meat market is in Chicago, and Illinois has property rights for married women, so that becomes their new home (he hires someone to stay on his land and be around if needed for cattle business). And of course, they both reinvest a portion of that, while still living very nicely. Climbing the social ladder was so important at the time (and for decades), but she doesn’t care much about being accepted by polite society, adopting their values, etc. I mean she likes some of those values, but wouldn’t adopt all of them wholesale. She doesn’t care too much if she’s socially accepted, especially in a big city with a lot of entertainment options that don’t require social capital. At least, she doesn’t care much at first. After she has children she cares more, for their sakes.

They rent in Chicago, rather than buy. She doesn’t have any contact with her family, but as each of his nieces and nephews reach adulthood, they get $600. Which was about the typical man’s yearly salary. Anyway, they live well and investments keep growing. The cattle business more so than hers, at first. By 1880, each is bringing in excess of $400 a month. But more and more cattle on the same amount of grazing land as new ranchers move in and existing herds grow mean it’s starting to be overgrazed. And there’s been more people, too. In 1881, he sells everything associated with his cattle and invests in the stock market, with both safer and riskier investments (advised by his wife). They have two children. And just get richer. By 1909 they earn well over $30,000 a year (net worth is over half a million) and they buy their first automobile. They live long enough for the start of the big runup on stock prices in the 1920s but are both dead by 1928. Over the years, Kid & Lou, Teresa, and Buck and his wife will invest in some of the same companies (one very predictable and safe and others riskier) that they buy. They don’t risk all their savings, of course, but since he's done so well, they do try some and it does help (I did look up actual old stock and dividends and actually keep track – coming from “the future” did give an advantage, I admit).

I don’t have as many details on Teresa. I have her born in 1850. She grows up to be short. By time she turns 14, Kid and Lou are doing well enough that they could afford to keep her at home. And the town has a high school. She goes for a year, but most of her friends don’t, and she didn’t enjoy it. And she does like the idea of having her own spending money. She becomes a part-time dining room girl at the hotel. She flirts, sometimes, of course. She prefers guys that came to town later – guys she knew when they were children just aren’t that attractive to her. But the town has grown a lot, so it’s not really an issue.

Anyway, two brothers move to town and open a furniture store in 1865. They look very alike, and people sometimes think they’re twins, but they aren’t. The younger one (six years older than her) eventually catches her eye, and they’ll start dating when she’s 17. The store is providing a decent living for both brothers, and he’s saved up enough for getting started and he proposes. But then his brother decides he wants to try his luck further west and wants younger brother to buy him out so he’ll have a stake. The business is worth it, and it’ll almost double his income (he’ll have to hire extra labor), so he’s younger brother is definitely interested. But it used up his savings and that means delaying the wedding. But they get married in 1870. They’ll have four kids.

Teresa is very happy, but is also interested in becoming wealthier, and she’s younger and more prone to listen to Jeremiah than his elders. So she (and her husband) do take more of his stock advice than the older ones, especially as time goes and he’s more and more successful. At first, in 1872, they just put a big chunk of their savings in the really safe company that is providing 8% returns. And it’s still a deflationary time, so that’s very good. And it’s safer than a bank to them at this time. So that’s where they put their savings every so often – they don’t have any other investments (besides the furniture business) for 15 years. They save a lot of money when young and newly married (and less ten years later) because they’ve been taught compound growth. And even more because more kids cost more money, which they also understand and don’t want to have to downgrade lifestyle as children are born. So they save $800 the year after the build a house. Then $700, then $500. By 1885 (youngest is 7), it’s less than $200 saved per year. In 1887, they cash out some of their Adams stock and buy into a riskier company for the first time. In 1889, they move to a new house – with electric, hot water radiators, and just modern everything. At this point they feel confident enough that they can just let their investments grow and don’t need to save anymore, so they are spending more.

Circa 1897, one of their kids starts working at the business – it takes about six years to transition over completely and for the child to afford the business (started working there part time before grown). They are well ready to retire, having over $70,000 (30 years’ expenses) in savings and investments. Both have died by 1925.

I know, I know – too much time on money and spending and not enough on story. I suck at plots, so I try to figure out “what’s the character’s life is like.” Well, how much income they have a big determiner. So I look up occupations and income. And then expenditure tables (much easier at the end of the 19th century forward than the middle). Then how do they invest their savings (because I read an interesting article that said that those that did have money to save in that time usually spread it out between risky and safe investments). I know I do too much with stocks – bonds were more common earlier – but it’s much easier for me to find and read the data. When you do just a business you made up for them to invest it, it gives you more freedom, and I do that some, but I’m never sure if I’m picking something reasonable.

Anyway, then we have to deal with Jimmy and Cody, who were real people, but have fictional counterparts with very differing details.

Like with Jimmy – I’m definitely having him adore Agnes. And the nature of his death is too well-known in pop culture to change. His real history of likely being a Union spy during the war is full of potential. But does he die in 1876 or does he die years later when the fictional one is 39?

And Cody – can the fictional one have a marriage that isn’t good, but not be so bad that he (falsely) testifies in court (for divorce) that his wife tried to poison him multiple times? I do feel like three of his four children still have to die young, though. Obviously, I’d never dream of leaving out the Wild West Show – it’s his most famous attribute.

#young riders #The Young Riders #Lou McCloud #Buck Cross #Teaspoon Hunter #rachel dunne #louise mccloud #The kid #kid

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The Young Riders playing Monopoly

(I swear my brain comes up with the weirdest things at the weirdest times)

Emma: the banker because let's face it she is truly the only responsible one

Teaspoon: he's not playing even though playing Monopoly was his idea but he is watching and trying to tell literally everyone how to play the game

Sam: also trying to give advice to the others that are playing and trying to tell them what they should do

Kid: somehow went bankrupt in the first round of the game but stayed around to watch

Jimmy: gets mad because he feels like he isn't making progress in the game so he throws the Monopoly money and his game piece across the room and storms off, he does come back later and trys to get Emma to let him play again but she doesn't let him so he sits and watches, he's not happy that Emma wouldn't let him play again

Buck: doesn't understand how or why people find the game fun when it seems to be purely about being greedy despite this he is doing good at the game, but he's only playing because Ike is

Cody: goes bankrupt not long after Jimmy storms off even though he was swiping money from the "bank" and picked up what Jimmy through when he stormed off, but unlike Jimmy he doesn't throw a fit and goes and sits down and watches the game

Lou: is winning she/he has the most money and owns a good portion of the board, she's/he's overall just better with fake money and real money than the others are and let's face it this game is basically made for Lou

Ike: right behind Lou when it comes to the in-game money and does own some of the board but not as much as Lou

#the young riders #jimmy hickok #william cody #running buck cross #ike mcswain #the kid #lou mccloud #marshall sam cain #aloysius teaspoon hunter #emma shannon

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