#the nina project

[castleclerics]

ABSOLUTELY INSANE NINA PROJECT PARALLELS FROM FUTURE MAN S2 (2019)

so there i was…. minding my own business watching s2 of a show i watched solely for josh hutcherson. then suddenly… he wakes up out of a simulation in a bathtub.

anyways once he fully awakes he’s greeted by literal female brenner

i don’t even think i have to explain the next screenshots so just look at this shit

she tells him she's from the future and she went back in time because she believes he's the only person with "the skills to save our world" similar to how owens tells el the same thing in 4x03

this part is crazy to me because i already had a theory that if el did the massacre, that her sending one through the gate was something her own mind made up.

anyways so the reason they put him in the simulation was to ask him questions about this guy (its a really long story) but like in the og timeline this doctor creates a cure but it destroys humanity so josh wakes up in another timeline where he didn't save the world, where stu, josh's former coworker, takes place of the og doctor. but it's interesting to think about since brenner was trying to have el find henry all this time and what if he wanted to see what questions her brain could answer about him to collect info on him or something??

el saying to brenner "i came here to try and understand who i was." LIKEEE

he asks if he says no to the simulation process then what would happen so she tells him they'll wipe his memory and "the only side-effect would be the lingering sensation like something was off. it would just be gnawing at you never more than a shadow." which reminds me of el laying in bed and getting flashes of the massacre in 4x03.

anyways onto the twin/clone stuff !!!!!!

he escapes into the desert after this so og josh doesn't end up getting killed. so basically they clone josh to see which version of him will be the correct one powerful enough to take down stu. also og josh ends up stumbling into a room of all of his dead clones :)

AHEMMM el commiting the massacre........ (for backstory in s1 he blew up a building to save the world so it was for good) and brenner recreating henry over and over…..

also just look at all the screenshots it literally looks like it was filmed where s4 nina scenes were filmed...

btw i'm still making a masterpost thing of how el rly did do the massacre it's gonna take a while bc i still have to do a little more analyzing and go over alllll of nina

there's literally more parallels but i can't fit them in this post but they aren't too important, more just to show the writers genuinely got inspo straight from this. anyways how fun right my jaw was on the floor watching this

#the nina project #stranger things parallels #future man

[nances]

El Hopper + being a Madonna fan

remake of an old gifset of mine special thanks to @mayahawkins for helping me obtain HD material <3

#had to subscribe to picsart because i refuse to get photoshop that’s one software too many #stranger things #el hopper #eleven #jane hopper #the nina project #sam owens #max mayfield #elmax #lgif

[hawkinslibrary]

I left some Eggos out in the woods, and you came into my life, and for the first time in a long time, I started to feel things again. I started to feel happy.

#stranger things #strangerthingsedit #hopper #s4 #the nina project #st4 spoilers #spoilers #lex creates #dailystrangerthings #dailynetflix #dailytvfilmgifs #tvstrangerthings #tvedit #cinemapix #cinematv #netflixedit #userstream #userbbelcher #chewieblog #can we talk about the wording of 'came into my life' #hopper spiraling and isolating himself until will goes missing which leads to him finding el and reconnecting with joyce #he puts in the work for the investigation and he does help find and save will #and he continues to be there for them in the aftermath #and he leaves the eggos out for el and gives her a home #yet he acts like them choosing him has nothing to do with him and the things he does at all #idk if i'm wording that the way i want to word it #but hopper seeing himself as a curse when both el and joyce see him at his messiest and still love him... yeah

[theafictionados]

Every Afictionados Best Line Award (Sam)

Stranger Things Episode 405: The Nina Project by the Afictionados Podcast Network

#jonathan byers #argyle stranger things #stranger things #afictionados #best line award #episode #405 #the nina project

[v-i-r-i-d-i-a-n]

*Me rewatching Nina scenes pausing every too seconds*

“No that’s not…wait but that’s……that’s not-“

“Oh.”

#I learned nothing that I haven’t seen people cover but god #it’s so- jarring??? #watching it with a fresh set of eyes #watching nothing before or after and just focusing on those scenes #it’s awful #I know so much #and so little #stranger things #henry creel #edward creel #nina #the nina project

[will80sbyers]

#stedit #stranger things #strangerthingsedit #will80sbyersgifs #aes gifs #the nina project

[pendingfeels]

•STRANGER THINGS SEASON FOUR•

Episode Five: THE NINA PROJECT

#edit #edits #stranger things #season 4 #the nina project #aesthetic #aesthetics #screenshots #screencaps

[bylerschmyler]

How did he know?

How did he knew?

if he wanted just to say that El's powers were gone he could have just said "they were taken" but he specifically say stolen.

#stranger things #martin brenner #dr brenner #eleven jane hopper #eleven hopper #dr owens #the nina project

[ladyfromaspookyforest]

Stranger Things & The Fly

I was looking at the ST4 DNA board, which I haven't personally spent time closely examining, and I saw The Fly on there. I'm assuming they meant the 1986 version and not the 1958 one because...you know...the 80s. So my immediate thought was "oh. NINA."

But I decided to do a rewatch of The Fly to see what else paralleled, and it isn't just the NINA elements. Rather, there are two separate parts of the Stranger Things 4 story that echo The Fly. Someone has probably already talked about this, but I'm crap at searching for things, so I couldn't find it. SO I'LL TALK ABOUT IT ANYWAY. This will contain spoilers for The Fly (1986).

The purpose of the pods in The Fly is teleportation via disintegration. You put something in one pod, it disintegrates, then reassembles itself in the other pod. Sounds familiar, you say?

This is the second storyline I'll be talking about.

In The Fly, our scientist protagonist, Seth Brundle, has figured out how to teleport inanimate objects, but when he tries to teleport anything living, it goes wrong. I was going to post a screenshot of him attempting to teleport a baboon, but it's maybe too icky for tumblr? Basically, in Seth's own words, "It turned the baboon inside out." Hmm. Reminds me of...upside down? Seth says "Something was lost in translation." So when the baboon was transported by disintegrating and reassembling, it didn't come back right. This is because he says "Computers are dumb. They only know what you tell them." So he teaches the computers to understand flesh (yeah, idk how he did that either). And the next baboon lives! Huzzah!

What does that mean? Maybe that 001's transportation to this other world (which may or may not be the Upside Down...could even be, dare I say, the Inside Out?), something went wrong. We see how mutilated he became and while he lived and Baboon #1 did not, he still ends up looking like a grody sack of meat, just like Baboon #1. Seth apologizes to Baboon #2 about killing his brother in an aside, but the brother comment is interesting. Perhaps meaningless. But with all the weirdness surrounding Henry that we still don't have answers to (like who tf is Edward Creel?) and the time wonkiness we can expect from season 5, it seems possible that there's a different version of Henry (or Edward) that DIDN'T come out as a grody sack of meat.

After the baboon success, Seth decides to teleport himself (dumbass) and it's VERY IMPORTANT that there is nothing else in the pods or else the molecules could reassemble wrong. And a fly gets into the pod with him, causing his DNA to merge with the fly's DNA when he comes out the other pod. Which brings me back to the NINA Project.

The purpose of the NINA project is to do exactly what the pods do accidentally. The NINA project is intended to influence the person in the pod by putting them in there with an external source. So like Seth's DNA changes with the presence of the fly (accidentally), El's memory changes with the presence of the video tapes.

The fact that Seth comes out wrong could indicate that El does too. The video tapes could, in fact, be influencing her to remember events incorrectly rather than truly giving back her genuine memories of events. There are other people on here who have written some really incredible, comprehensive posts compiling evidence of all the discrepancies between what we see in flashbacks and throughout NINA, so I'm not going to try. But at the end of the day, we still don't know why. Evidence seems to support that Vecna is a different version of Henry/Edward than the one El is being told to remember in NINA, and what she's seeing may in fact be a combination of what she's being told to and what she truly experienced. If you were to look at this through the lens of The Fly, El and the videotapes being in a pod together would make sense as a merging of two things rather than as a recovery of her own memories. (How relevant The Fly is, who's to say, it's all speculation for fun)

Of course, Seth comes out monstrous and El does not (*cough* probably). This brings Seth back to paralleling Vecna, as his disintegration and reconstruction in a horrific way alters not just his appearance, but who he is fundamentally. I imagine something similar happened to turn 001 into Vecna.

There's a super weird quote in the movie after Seth merges with the fly but before he realizes what's happened. He's trying to get his love interest to go through the pods and she refuses.

"You're afraid to dive into the plasma pool, aren't you? You're afraid to be destroyed and recreated, aren't you? ...You can't penetrate beyond society's sick grey fear of the flesh. Drink deep or taste not the plasma spring...I'm talking about penetration beyond the veil of the flesh, a deep penetrating dive into the plasma pool." So...WTF amirite? It's sort of a bunch of raving nonsense, but there are key words and phrases in there that really stick out to me. Being destroyed and recreated. The multiple references to the pool. (There is no pool in The Fly. This is a metaphor but there IS one in Stranger Things) The veil beyond the flesh, which could be the veil of...shadows? And of course, it's all about fear.

Brenner tells El "If you go too fast, I'm afraid you could become lost in the darkness. And if you are lost, so are we all." As evidenced by The Fly, going too fast very much did get Seth lost in the darkness. Brenner was even at least partially right about El. He tells her she isn't ready but she leaves anyway and she doesn't save the day. The apocalypse comes to Hawkins. (And Max is lost in the darkness)

I think the clearest parallels with this movie are the pods and the disintegration method of travel. Everything else is me blabbing. But after this rewatch, I am intrigued by the idea of the other Henry/Edward being the "successful" version of a teleportation.

Here are a couple of other quotes I found interesting that I'll just be leaving here for funzies:

"The sheer process of being taken apart atom by atom and put back together again...why, it's like coffee being put through a filter."

"Human teleportation, molecular decimation, breakdown and reformation, is inherently purging. It makes a man a king."

#stranger things 4 #st5 speculation #henry creel #edward creel #the nina project #the fly #el hopper #stranger things theory #this is entirely self-indulgent #and i have no thesis #stranger things movie parallel #my dumbass post

[gayofthefae]

I love the way El glitches back into her younger self and the delivery of those first lines when she re enters her memories for the first time. It just really emphasizes to me that feeling of, even if this is in the literal sense, being made to feel small when faced with your abuser again. The way you don't just re experience in memory, but in emotional stature as well. You remember what you said. But you also remember how much bigger he was than you.

The same thing goes for when they show her 8 year old self in the mirror at the end of the NINA Project.

#el hopper #trauma representation #stranger things #the nina project #henry creel

[castleclerics]

u ever think about how “henry’s” “retelling” barely matches up and the dialogue and flashbacks tell different stories and then u remember that the entire time you’re watching little henry it’s literally part of nancy’s vecna trance. like ik vecna tells nancy true future events but….. cmon how much of it is even real it’s a vecna trance!!! he can show her ANYTHING he wants

and you ask yourself why tf is it that the scene of el opening every door and it’s the rainbow room every time parallels nancy breaking through this door and suddenly she’s back to the tattoo room ? even though el is in nina and nancy is in a trance ??

and how once nancy is led back to that room she’s faced with a vecna-ified brenner

and then once she sees him the lights flicker extremely similar to how they do with el and one here

and when the lights come back on nancy is faced with just vecna and el is faced with that weird green-screened one……

and then u think about all the brenner/vecna paralells such as this one i just discovered:

and how he can literally manipulate el’s memories while she’s in nina to make her see ANYTHING he wants

HENRY/VECNA/ONE MY ASSSSS MORE LIKE BRENNER/EDWARD/VECNA

#love this godamn show more than anything #edward creel #henry creel #vecna #martin brenner #el hopper #the nina project #stranger things #hawkins lab

[nances]

Jane Hopper + being a Madonna fan

#the way her eyebrows perk up upon hearing the comparison :) #has this been done before? #go easy on me this is my first time making gifs #rip quality though LMFAOOO #stranger things #stranger things season 4 #the nina project #jane hopper #el hopper #elmax #max mayfield #eleven #hopfield #sam owens #byler tumblr #bc y'all always got my back 🤝 #i need to get rid of the film glow filter next time 😦 #i'm too lazy to rerender though so i'll just let it be lol i don't expect this to blow up anyway

[counting-stars-gayly]

I was already convinced that the NINA Poject was foreshadowing El leaving her “train station” by breaking up with Mike, but I just found some more proof that I can’t believe I never noticed before.

“Since when did we decide Nina was a physical building and not a small woman? Sounds like a small woman to me.” — Argyle

“It’s not a small woman.” — Mike

“Small woman would be hard to see.” — Argyle

First of all, Nina isn’t a building; she’s a woman whom The NINA Project was named after, and her name means “little girl.”

Secondly, when Argyle, Jonathan, Mike, and Will went to find NINA, they never even found the building where that project was being worked on. What they did find was El standing in the middle of the dessert. El is a small woman — a girl. And she was hard to see. Mike pointed her out, yelling, “There she is!” and Jonathan asked, “Where?”

Not to mention, the person Argyle was arguing with in the “small woman” scene was Mike, who parallels the dead lover in Nina’s story and whom El is going to break up with. Out of all the characters he could have had that conversation with, the writers chose for it to be Mike.

#el hopper dump your boyfriend #byler #the nina project #el hopper #eleven hopper #cali gang #california gang #argyle #mike wheeler #mike x will #will x mike #st argyle #argyle st4 #milkvan is bones #anti milkvan #byler will be canon #byler will be endgame #byler for the win #byler evidence #byler truther #byler is endgame #byler proof #byler s4 #byler st4 #byler hope #byler nation #stranger things #milkvan bones #el deserves better

[theafictionados]

Every Afictionados Best Line Award (Robyn)

Stranger Things Episode 405: The Nina Project by the Afictionados Podcast Network

#dustin henderson #ted wheeler #stranger things #afictionados #best line award #episode #405 #the nina project

[stscreencapredraws]

stranger things week 2022

july 8th: colors - byler + blue

#byler #stweek22 #mike wheeler #will byers #scrd #stranger things 2 #stranger things 4 #stranger things #stranger things 3 #the nina project #vecna's curse #the case of the missing lifeguard #the gate

[duranduratulsa]

Now showing on DuranDuranTulsa's Television Showcase 📺...Stranger Things: The Nina Project (2022) on Netflix #tv #television #horror #scifi #strangerthings #theninaproject #davidharbour #finnwolfhard #noahschnapp #calebmclaughlin #sadiesink #gatenmatarazzo #joekeery #winonaryder #MillieBobbyBrown #PaulReiser #robertenglund #nataliadyer #charlieheaton #mayahawke #matthewmodine #josephquinn #2020s #Netflix #durandurantulsa #durandurantulsastelevisionshowcase

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