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gnnosis · 10 months
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“i’m trapped.”
[ dead poets society (1989) / chapter viii, chen chen / young royals 2x04 / the raven boys, maggie stiefvater / “rocks in my shoes” (unreleased), noah kahan / ted lasso 3x11 / welcome to nightvale, joseph fink & jeffrey cranor / “homesick,” noah kahan ]
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Jamie didn’t forgive his dad’s abuse; he let go of the control his father has over him: Ted Lasso 3x11
Watched Ted Lasso 3.11 last night, and I really regret going on social media to see peoples’ takes before watching the actual episode. Based on some reactions, I went in scared about how bad they fucked up, and came out bewildered at a general lack of media literacy and bad faith people have in shows they profess to like?? 
Tons of people with more relevant life experience have spoken about the controversial plot line of Jamie “forgiving” his dad, but it truly did not read to me like a story of a victim forgiving an abuser and letting them get away with stuff or even inviting said abuse back in their life. His mom, who had the most significant conversation with him in the episode imo, insists that his dad won’t change and embodies the “fuck him” attitude. 
However, this episode also makes it clear that isn’t working for Jamie! He is constantly affected by the specter of his dad (looking back in the stands over and over, clearly worried about seeing him after a long gap), regardless of his dad actually being there. 
Explicitly, textually, within the show, any forgiveness would be for Jamie, not his dad. But also, nothing in the show indicates that Jamie actually forgives his dad, even after talking to Ted. 
Instead, to me, it reads far more like Jamie letting go of the control his dad has over him, despite not even being present. Before the conversation, the stands are a source of fear and anxiety for him (get Phil Dunster an emmy!!), but not only because the Man City supporters are booing him, but because he connects that to his dad (his mom literally says that his dad will be in the stands booing him, for him, all those Man City fans hating him could camouflage the larger threat of his dad).
After the talk, he taunts the crowd back, essentially letting go of that fear to better heal himself, taking control of a threat that isn’t really a threat at all. He is taking his mother’s advice to let his father out of his life, to stop proving anything to him, to stop setting himself up in opposition of his dad - hence the crucial climax of him making a “selfish”, solo goal, despite that being something his dad would want from him. 
In regards to the text to his dad at the end, it was the most bland text I’ve ever seen. There was no forgiveness or emotion to him hoping his dad would be okay, it’s like a text you sent to an acquaintance from ten years ago because you heard their dog died. Instead, this is also Jame in fact letting go of his anxiety and fear - multiple times, he is anxious *because* the last time he talked to his dad was when his dad showed up unexpectedly in Wembley, and he’s constantly paranoid it will happen again. In my mind, this is Jamie taking control of the situation while being emotionally distant in order to cut that sense of anxiety out and make the first step toward that inevitable meeting again. He is reducing his dad from a terrifying unknown to a situation he starts and can control. 
Because this time Jamie knows he will be able to handle whatever is thrown at him; not because he deserves or accepts abuse but because even if abuse is doled out to him as a result of reaching out, the rest of the episode shows how much love he is surrounded by, how much support. When the announcer says “this must be so meaningful to his family,” it is his mom + stepdad, his coaches, his fans, and his team we see first. His dad is an afterthought (though I think it is completely in character for the “forgive and humanize everyone” show to have his dad also choose to heal - completely separate from Jamie’s own journey or even his knowing.)
And that the direction he has chosen to take is in honor of that love, and for that love of his team and his real family. 
People keep saying he should have cut his dad out entirely, but he is already doing that at the start of the episode, and for this specific person and situation, it isn’t working. It isn’t contributing to his healing process, and it seems kind of one note for everyone to insist that all victims be able to or willing to cut people out of their life. Peoples’ relationships to their abusers is not black and white, which the show has already demonstrated with the fact that Rebecca and Rupert can have good times together while she still has strict boundaries and knows he was and is abusive. 
I thought Jamie’s story was a well done, nuanced take that didn’t give an inch to his father’s previous treatment of him, from Jamie or the people around him. I believe even Ted offers the path of forgiveness because he recognizes Jamie is in a place for it - an emotional place where he has moved beyond anger and spite, and a physical place where his dad doesn’t present physical danger to him. The episode was so sincere in showing how badly his dad’s abuse has hurt and damaged Jamie, and how forgiveness, for him, means choosing to let that relationship stay in the past and move on.  
Respect to everyone’s opinions though!!! I think it’s totally okay to be critical of the show, especially when some story lines are so important and sensitive. I just truly didn’t even see the biggest issue most people have with the plot line, which is a sincere forgiveness of abuse i.e. that the abuse was okay. I definitely also think him blocking his dad would be another way to get control over his anxieties, but not one I think meshes with the tone of the show.  
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but I loved the episode—though I do think next week will rip my heart out. 
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submitting my predictions (read: manifestations) now
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trentcrimmisgay · 11 months
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Jason Sudeikis mum vs Becky Ann Baker (cast as Ted Lasso’s mum season 3)
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mysweetobsessions · 9 months
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"Thank you... and fuck you" - Ted Lasso
Ted Lasso, 3x11
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lunar-years · 25 days
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Three people coming together to maximize their joint slay…
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fondlyfervently · 11 months
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no one has ever babygirled so hard. emmy in the babygirl category for phil dunster please. i’ve never seen such staggering achievement in the field.
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madfoxx · 11 months
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“In japanese culture they have a myth where they believe, that all soulmates are connected by an invisible red string, and those strings are attached to each of their little fingers.”
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atorionsbelt · 11 months
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phil dunster talking about filming the mom city boot room scene:
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skeletaltumbleweed · 11 months
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ted lasso refusing to show jamie’s goal and instead staying focussed on his reaction is just so fucking personal as a burnt out gifted kid perfectionist. cause it’s not about the goal, or the win, or his skill, or his talent, or what it means for the team or the game or anything. fuck all of that cause it’s about his joy. what he can do matters jack shit cause it’s about him. fuck how good he is at something what’s important is that he likes doing it, he’s proud of himself.
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sprqpointintern · 11 months
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this episode was just an hour of me crying 😭
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gnnosis · 11 months
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[ ted lasso 3x10 / east of eden, john steinbeck ]
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The full circle of the first time Ted substituted Jamie to teach him humility and kindness after a goal and Jamie blowing him off, to Ted waiting to substituting so he can play for himself and succeed, only taking him out once he scored for himself through forgiveness and hard work.
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ambnight · 1 month
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Nate the Great haters are my enemies
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trentcrimmisgay · 11 months
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roy “tough love” kent brought jamie “responds positively to roy’s tough love” tartt into the boot room for a private harsh pep talk and jamie just cried. bawled.
all humor of the scene aside: roy talks to him like he usually does, just thinking jamie needed some extra motivation. but baby broke down & instead of just closing off to all emotions like roy usually does, roy HELD HIM WHILE HE CRIED. and asked keeley for help. i can’t stop thinking about it
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I'll never be over the fact that after the game in 'mom city' jamie is sitting in the training room looking all tired and sad with his red-rimmed eyes, all alone, and in walks fucking roy and keeley because they want to celebrate with him and they would never leave him alone because they love him
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