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ohmaerieme · 4 months
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spm..... save me spm..
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dappledpaintbrush · 1 year
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you ain’t kicking it with elon
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Brobotussy
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illdothehotvoice · 11 months
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I got the Mr. L voice clips I've done what I've set out to do.
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legobiwan · 11 days
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Replaying some SPM to eventually get back into writing mode and the cut scene with Luigi in Bleck's Castle is SO INFORMATIVE.
The Goombas, Kevin and who I would like to call Gary, have his number, his checking account, and his home address in terms of manipulating him. The foreshadowing to the Mr. L persona is just delicious. That overblown ego tied with deep insecurity about not only his skills, but his comparison to his brother didn't come from nowhere, and it doesn't look like those issues weren't such a closely-kept secret in the Darklands.
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"I was saving Princess Peach, but I screwed it up..."
And doesn't that just tug at the heart strings? You didn't screw it up, Luigi. You just happened to stomp on a trillions-of-years-old cosmic force of destruction and unleash chaos throughout the dimensions. Hell, he even put a wrench in Bleck's plans by doing that. Doomed by the narrative, our boy is.
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"A daring defender? ...Me?"
He doubts their words (and well he should, not because they're necessarily untrue but meant to manipulate). But he both doesn't believe he's worthy of that appellation and yet desires it so badly.
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"My fans need me!"
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The commentary by Gary here spells it out. It was way too easy.
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"Must...stroke...ego."
There it is, laid out for everyone. They know Luigi has overcompensation issues. The inversion of this, the low self-regard turned outwards - manifests in Mr. L.
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The killing blow, so to speak. Gary and Kevin are acutely aware of Luigi's secondary status in relation to his brother. I wonder how many others caught onto this. No wonder Mr. L built Brobot. No wonder he's always calling out Mario's style. He may love his brother, but the insecurity is real.
In hindsight, there's nothing all that shocking about Luigi's transformation into Mr. L. It's all laid out right here in this beautiful cut scene.
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jell-o101 · 5 months
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hey are you familiar with the youtube channel "Man on the internet"? I think you'd like their SPM music.
Im picky with fan made songs. To my own disappointment, the only one i like is Brobot Battle :/
I have a distinct taste in music and it is VERY hard for anyone to recommend me anything choacpjspjcpsvp
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cherryfennec · 19 days
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hot take: the bosses in super paper mario permanently damaged any chance of the game ever getting rpg mechanics, it would make the rpg mechanics feel cheap and the bosses feel boring, especially super dimentio
abandoning the flippage and making the game be fully 3d like sm64 would be a good move though
Super Paper Mario stands out in the Paper Mario games especially because of the fact that the bosses aren't turn based. The fact that they mixed RPG and platformer elements was interesting, in the end some of them hit while some miss.
The bossess definitely have quite a lot of charm from being in full motion and not locked to turns, you get to see personality through movement like O'Chunks being a little slow to react, Dimentio and Mr.L being hard to catch and Bleck taking advantage of the background. A few that especially benefit are: Fracktails entire battle, Mimi climbing the ceiling midfight (and also her and Dimentio being able to flip after you), Brobot L-type or even Super Dimentio like you mentioned.
Despite this I have to admit that some fights might feel underwhelming gameplay wise. Getting personality is awesome but if it's at the expense of difficulty or unfun mechanics then it might be better to not push it. Especially with the problem of BIG open spaces. Chapter 4-4 boss room is super open and super empty which feels a little anticlimactic while Mimis boss room is super small and has little wiggle room. Mimi was in fact harder than Mr.L just because of the fact i couldn't jump or evade her as easily.
This doesn't mean that everything should be crammed into a small area but it is a little cheesy seeing the AI struggle to attack you in the few ways it can. (again with Mr.L, he makes mighty leaps in this large room and with how slow he descends and predictable the landing spot is you can just. walk under.)
When it comes to making it 3D sm64 style it would be conceptually interesting but personally? I think it should remain paper style. A story like this would be difficult and very time consuming to execute in the mainline 3D Super Mario style, especially considering the time it released in. The main focus here was clearly the lore and dialogue which a lot of people agree is the best thing about it. It's cut like a story book, which ties with being Paper Mario, and the idea that these characters are already doomed by the narrative.
But that's an entirely different discussion so I won't delve deeper or else we'll be here much longer.
If I could personally offer any changes to SPM it would be:
The timer on the FLIP ability sucks, either extend or remove completely. I want to see all these beautiful assets and bosses in 3D which are already fully programed but the timer is actively discouraging me from doing so because of the damage penalty. "Mario is getting nauseous that's why he can't stay there long" is a cool in-universe explanation but it's not fun gameplay wise.
Personal design nitpick but some areas could use some retouches. What do you mean you associated the colour of the Pure Heart to the worlds palette only in 4 Chapters? What about the rest? Please keep going!!
Increase the difficulty a little (aka make the AI somewhat smarter). Personality and struggle is what makes a character memorable in games. (really big detour but for example take Malenia from Elden Ring, she has lore that is optional to learn and yet theres a big chance you'll remember her anyway because she's a super hard boss)
This ones more of a 'what if' but I've been trying to imagine for a while the possibility of: normally everything is 3D/with depth like the other Paper Mario games and when you FLIP it becomes 2D (basically reversing the effect). I know this ruins Fracktail and would require more work with sculpting the environments but I like the thought of the hub being 3D. If not that at least add more assets to the environment when you flip. A lot of the time every tree and rock is in 2D while 3D is just so empty. Also consider just for a moment how little people FLIP during bosses and areas, probably forgetting they even can, and missing out on these cool models. Either that or they're aware that when they do FLIP they won't see anything because the cameras obscured by a wall (looking at you chapter 4).
In conclusion I think this take has stable ground and in the end I agree to an extent! There are some rather specific cases that I feel would work better in a turn based system but overall a lot of them are good as they are!
Making the game like sm64 sounds fun but could be difficult to execute without loosing any of the beautiful charm the Paper Mario format/style provides to it's stories.
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galaxygermdraws · 11 months
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If Luigi lost his arm, how did he get it back? And also plant horror is really good
I mean Luigi didn't lose his arm, Luigi still has it. It's one of those AUs where Luigi and Mr L got separated through magic frickery or something (haven't thought the details), but since the last appearance of Mr L (at least, by name) was at the end of the game thanks to the Floro Sprout, I kinda just went "what if he had plant bits in his new form" especially because. I mean. He's not even a full person, he's not even supposed to exist, he was made simply as a tool , he has no past, no memories from before the events of SPM, he has vague knowledge (like how he can come up with oddly specific nicknames for Mario, Peach, n Bowser) as well as having certain instincts intrinsic to being Luigi (like knowing he was supposed to have a twin, and thus building Brobot), but like. he was never meant to be a full person.
So he kinda just. Isn't physically fully a person. Part of him is tied to the stupid Floro Sprout. And I don't think Mr. L particularly likes having a plant arm, it prolly makes inventing harder, so he just kinda. decides to lob it off and replace it with a robotic arm because at least then he can use it to invent things (but also...it's safer. He wouldn't admit that the plant arm made him uncomfortable, or that he was terrified he would lost control of it, but the robot arm he can control. It's his. He was missing a human arm ANYWAYS so like, why not replace it with something that vaguely resembles how he should look?)
Also yes Plant Horror is a very good brand of horror I need more of it.
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serotoninny · 1 year
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Hey- hi. My sister and I grew up playing Super Paper Mario constantly. I would absolutely love to hear any and all thoughts you would like to share pls and thank you!!
HELLO! HELLO HI!
wanted to start off by saying Holy Shit!! spm was a video game me and my sister also played growing up!! we never beat it back then but recently she came home and got me hooked on it again and we played it all the way thru. we also did fun little voices for each character I got to be dimentio so that was very fun ^__^ i think Objectively its not a very hard game (which is why we were able to beat it LMAO) but what it lacks there it makes up for in STORY and super strong characters and i adore it so
IF ANYONE!! ANYONE wants to respond to anything ive said in this word soup of a post PLEASE DO!!! in the tags in the comments i just like seeing ppl talk abt whatever the hell about spm. Head canons Theories You name it
this is . a little scattered around. u do not have to read all of this but thank you for giving me an excuse to talk abt spm VVV
first of all themes of love being the answer make me wanna bawl my eyes out and i gotta be real i did tear up at the end of the game when blumiere and timpani have bounding through time ost playing and then walk out of frame. CHEFS KISS. lovely. i like how each chapter the gang goes thru has its own unique little set of townspeople and even thru little bits of dialogue u are left wanting to defeat the chaos heart even more because you dont want any of them to die YK? HEAVENS TO BETSY! THE DIALOGUE OPTIONS FOR RIGHT BEFORE CHAPTER 8 FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN FLIP/FLOPSIDE?? SHIT HURTED. npc reactions to all the shit going on were so good
one thing i WISH happened tho was. mario and luigi Sibling Love (i mean this platonically i want to specify Just in case there are any weirdos out there) Helps Save The World. i get the whole count bleck mansion part where everyone started sacrificing themselves to save the others which means they care for one another n whatnot which is good great and fantastic However i think it wouldve been COOL to see the whole gang esp the two opposing forces of Mario (prophesized hero color red) and luigi (prophesized Man In Green to contain the chaos heart and destroy the world) contribute to the reformation of the pure heart like some sorta balance between light n dark . BUT ITS FINE i love the game anyway because its probably the longest bowser luigi mario and peach have ever been on the same team
and completely unrelated, the entire premise of luigi being the harbinger of a great world ender is ALWAYS a joy. a fun little recurring gag if you will. like i cant believe this is not the only time he was the vessel for a great evil like what is up with that. every day i think abt that one luigi post abt how he's Doomed By The Narrative TM to be the Evil Twin Brother but he just chooses not to be. never not thinking abt that ever. hes so haunted by like literally everything got separated and brainwashed fought his brother aided in the destruction of the sammer guy world Died went to hell KOed spm satan got revived became GOD then saved the world. and he is some middle aged man in striped socks
MR L. GOD. that fucking guy. hes so lame. i like him so much. his theme goes SO hard in the silliest way imaginable. and i also like how even when he is brainwashed its kinda obvious he still wants mario around (see: brobot, the replacement brother). they fr tapped into luigis need to be useful and used that as is motivation to work for the count. yeowch. mr l to me is just luigi but Lots of parts of him just locked up and forgotten (plus a little minor bit of oh i dont know straight up brain manipulation, nastasia is a force 2 be reckoned with fr) Duno if im making sense here . anyway mr l is so so so hilarious to me because his one liners are so so dumb and i think the gag abt no one recognizing him is FUNNY (EVEN IF i think at least mario SHOULDVE recognized him but WHATEVS).
all of count blecks minions are . SUCH a fun little group. and while dimentio didnt give a fuck about them i still love his dynamic as the court jester whos a little bit of a bitch. the origins of them joining the group are very interesting because ochunks mimi and nastasia had been at their lowest when bleck recruited them and dimentio was like. let me in your emo band. ochunk's warrior code is something i think about a lot. he doesnt got a lot behind the eyes but hes got values he sticks to and i like that a lot in a character. him and mimi do spa days
bleck as a character makes me wanna chew through my walls. in a good way. guys who are slipping and dont want to get back up and bringing everything else down with them are fun and that is all. bonus! he still gets to be Somewhere quiet after the story's over
dimentio has to be my fave of the goons (not counting mr l). not surprising because hes just. so. ...... He is the Way That He Is. his little similes are so stupidly funny for no reason and i think being a Silly Guy and also a Guy With Ulterior Motives are the two funest traits a character can have. His ambiguous past is so interesting like yes bitch hide behind the mask keep cards up your sleeve dont let them know your next move!! something interesting i read somewhere was that. even after luigi the chaos heart and dimentio were separated that there were bits still mixed up between them, linking them not only prophetically but on the atomic level is a headcanon im tucking close into my heart . terrifying as it is super fucking rad !! luigi cannot escape the harbinger of doom allegations
dimentio and luigis entire dynamic is the best thing ever. because dimentio is a goddamn weirdo and luigi is. and i cannot stress this enough. JUST a fucking GUY. luigi is like "ill stop you you ne'er do well!" and dimentio responds with "im killing us both<3ciao!" why does every luigi villain wanna be no children mountain goats with SO BAD. they should keep doing it
god. the way mario is the mc and barely has a role in most of the story other than being The Hero of the Light Prognosticus is both a little annoying and also kinda sick /pos. annoying because mario is one of my faves and i want him to participate in the story more (not really a diss on the writing i just like him) but also kinda sick because . the way everyone in the game talks abt the hero from the prophecy is so. soooooooooooo. god. like everyone in favor of all worlds Not Ending preparing THOUSANDS of CENTURIES in advance just for mario to arrive. Pixls were locked in boxes and hidden away WAITING for him and its like. if he could talk back. i wanna know how he thinks abt all this. because throught the entire story You as the player kinda fuck things up for people in pursuit of the pure hearts. and mario cant rly SAY anything abt it cus its not Really his story, but MAN. what i would give for a little development on his end of the lineup during a few points like 'wilting' king croacus, figuring out squirps is now orphaned because he had to stay alive long enough to help the heros, Luvbis Entire Deal, and figuring out mr l was luigi all along. SIGH
i dont know much about the pixl war, but all of that lore is so cool to look into. ive got like surface level knowledge. even then i only rly care abt the history when im thinking abt the personalities of the pixls themselves. cus like they get their little moment in the spotlight and then they Never speak Again. dottie and cudge and fleep are some of the more memorable ones for me and i wish it was possible to hear more of them. but alas
squirps. :( in my heart. in my heart and soul. bowser takes squirps under his wing. forms an alliance with his kingdom (assuming. squirps takes over from where his mom left off). peach would of course also form an alliance with him. IDK. squirps is the Only One out of every major side character in the game who didnt really get a happy ending. while not everyone NEEDS one i think he deserves one. and in my perfect world he is being guided by two more experienced rulers (bowser isnt doing much in terms of teaching him good diplomacy but he sure as hell is getting him to hang out with kids his age like Jr).
bowser was so funny this whole game. love when evil guys get domesticated a little. thats all about him
PEACH. PRINCESS PEACH. god i love her. the way she was the only person to resist nastasias brainswashing AND her fucking umbrella is the most cracked defense in the World. blowing a kiss to the wind. for peach
ok so i cant think of anything else to say and i havent proofread this. if YOU, dear viewer, love super paper mario i need you to never shut the fuck up ever. there are like 12 of us
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ohmaerieme · 5 months
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i cant decide if theyd get along well or if theyd be plotting each others murders. actually no mr l would probably use branch for some dr eggman power source type shit for brobot
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dappledpaintbrush · 11 months
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He’s such a loser like genuinely
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duckapus · 11 months
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Since he doesn't really take care of himself, Mr. L doesn't have Luigi's buff form or meditation abilities. He does, however, still have Canon Luigi's abilities and his own canonical engineering prowess. He quickly uses said prowess to create Brobot M-Type, which is the same as the Brobot L-Type from his second boss fight in SPM but shaped and colored like Mario's head instead of his own to add injury to the original insult.
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illdothehotvoice · 2 years
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Anyways now i'm thinking about the Year of Luigi CD (Which. I need to restore THAT playlist too ugh) and how it was a great concept until you realize Luigi really only had one theme at that point xhsbcbsbcbsf. So they had to dig DEEP for it and use Super Paper Mario music (making it the only official release of those songs to my knowledge).
They also 100% could have used "Luigi's Story" from TTYD but no they really went "UUUUM. THE ULTIMATE SHOW????"
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ayoohype · 7 months
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YOOO! Idk what's going on in ur spm comic but I am HERE for it!! Like Mr L seems way more unhinged here! The bullets and brobot?? Mhm mhm. Very cool my good friend very cool *giggling noises*
I can't wait to see what u have in store for it! This is such a cool idea!
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YOOO! THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS.
Sometimes it does just feel like I'm writing it for myself (which I'm fine with) but knowing atleast a few people like it makes my day.
I've definitely decided to make Mr L more of a viscous character here to add more tension to the scenes. And trust me. There's more to come. I'm uploading later today the next few scenes so! WOOP!
AGAIN! THANKS FOR THE REBLOGS N SUPPORT!
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mscribbles · 1 year
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Ignore me if this has been asked before, but what are your thoughts on Mr L?
HM broad question but i'm more than happy to talk about spm!!
oh mr L is SUCH a fun character, i do kinda wish more with him was done in the game but he definitely has some great moments 😭 the brobot boss fights were definitely some of my favorites in the game (and the saving grace of chapter 4 imo LMAO) also the fact that luigi just becomes a huge bitch the second he gets his memories wiped will NEVER not be funny to me. also the fact that you can tell he highkey still misses mario because he builds a freaking robot to replace him is funny but also 😔
and his theme fucking rocks of course
if we're gonna talk about ships i kind of dislike mr L/dimenti0 or dimenti0/luigi. not for any legitimate reason, i'm just a little hater. the fanart for it is really cool but you'd never see it here tbh
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brainrot-yumm · 1 year
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Hey thanks bowuigi tumblr for reminding me that I was gonna draw a comic inspired by the things Mr. L will say to the different party members in SPM (specifically the “jump on/kidnap/foil” line in chapter 4)
Where Mr. L gets into Brobot and shouts to Bowser, “Hey, Mr. Tries-to-kiss-the-pink-lady-but-always-gets-foiled-by-the-red-man! I’ll kiss your FACE!!!”
and then theres a pause
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