#so stop making character judgements

[sparring-spirals]

From like. a character analysis perspective. i LOVE Ashton's tendency to have some very good instincts when it comes to like human nature and fuckery that are also very clearly swayed by their own experiences and biases, because the combination of correct gut instincts with strong confidence makes it. Easy to buy in. Or easy to bristle.

Ashton tells F.C.G "This is what happens when you start externalizing every fucking problem that you have-" and, with affection towards F.C.G- well. Yeah. And then he starts breaking down the issue- how its about people with power fucking with others, how the end goal and the aim doesn't matter, their methods are clearly AWFUL and going to harm tons of people, and besides, if they had such a clear and proper image about what they're going to achieve they could just tell people. They're going to hurt people, they're killing, people, fuck that, fuck them.

"It's easy to make a nice world by killing everyone who disagrees with you. If you get down to five it'll be amazing. Fucking utopia."

Its- beautiful. And correct, in more ways than one, and probably what everyone needed to hear, and also has so much of their own experiences and resentment threaded into it, reductive to an almost dangerous point. Dangerous because he's right, in so many ways, and confident and righteous with it. Dangerous because of how the life lessons and the rage and the loss have left them with base tenets about human nature and motivations that are clear cut and resigned and simple. Because simplicity is powerful, and reassuring, and keeps them going, and is also not infallible.

I just feel like. Ashton is so, so fucking right, often and especially here, is confident in his stances and judgement in a way that has been tested by flame and resigned itself to pessimism. Ashton is so right, and the reasoning is often so sound and tempting, and there's also so much of them, their own losses and shortcomings that bleeds into their confident readings of the world and its overall nature, in ways they maybe don't even realize.

ashton is- full of solid instincts, and also flawed by having lived their life firsthand, and also confident in a way that is reassuring until you find yourself in a blindspot, up against an immovable rockface.

#idk if i can articulate this correctly. its something taliesin always does well i think- characters who sound reassuring and correct even #when their judgement starts to veer. but with ashton its very much like- oh theyre right. theyre right so often but so much of it is fueled #by their own experiences in ways they dont always seem to realize. and yet its often reassuring to listen to them BECAUSE of that #the simplicity of the worldview is part of how theyve managed to make it. and for good reason! but its not infallible. #critical role #ashton #character meta #ashton meta #c3e49 #cr liveblogging #my meta #my progress through this ep is. so slow. and would be faster if i stopped writing meta like every 2 minutes but. theres so much happening! #okay no more meta till the laudna ashton convo i promise #speculation #im gonna watch it before the ep tomorrow i swear #but uh. maybe during my work break becahse. i need. to sleep again.

[wall-e-gorl]

hellooooo ive made a uc fankid oc <3 more about her under the cut, so that this post isnt a mile long <3

her name is Dyllin, because i had to, and shes SO cute. Shes got a little lopsided grin, and one dimple, and the cutest smattering of freckles on her nose right where her fur starts to turn pink. Both Rian and Atty are trans, so they raised her gender neutrally until she could tell them who she was herself (thus atty using they for her in that one art), and when she was about 3 she said she was a girl and now she wears all the pretty flowy dresses she can get her hands on (uncle foq supplies many of them)!

in the art above shes: 14, 16 (colored in), 19? (lines), ambiguous age younger than 3, 5?, and also 5. I think that ill mainly draw her as a little kid or around 14, cause those ages are where more interesting dynamics happen with people. Lots of funny kiddy moments, and growing into your own person moments. Which! is what im about in fankids! beyond just drawing a cute kid and having fun with design (which im also all about but just to give an explaination for why im drawing her at those ages). I dont think i want to go into adult ages for her yet, cause for the moment its about her being a fankid for me.

She takes after Chet and mostly Foq much more in personality than either of her actual parents, so shes a very carefree happy-go-lucky kid. To Rian's absolute horror (see below, for their rage at finding out), Foq flounces his way into being a archfey and becomes her warlock patron when shes a little kid, but its alright Aunt Scenda is her cleric deity so shes got a balance for his chaos! (she doesnt balance shit but it does make rian not kill foq over the pact so! whatever works!)

#my art #unprepared casters #off the rails #if you dont want to see her block this tag -> #dyllin wright #(no judgement if you do obvs) #anyway. ive been holding onto her since on the rocks part 2. before we knew they both made it #i made her and then went aw fuck i made a fankid (whoops) for characters that may or may not make it (whoops!) #SO ive been holding onto her for a while cause i was like. doubting myself if i should keep her officially cause while fankids are normal- #for me to make. they arent like usual content for dnd shows i think? it feels a lot more personal and i had a whole debate with myself for- #a WHILE. and it quickly morphed into a debate on whether i should POST her cause i uhh didnt stop drawing her? as you can see? #eventually decided that i would test the waters (talked with friends privately about it and also posted a more like usual oc with kor) #it all went well so i figured id wait til a between arcs week and then post her. and here we are! #we miiight have a post mortem still coming for 12 idr buuuut i want to show her now i think #aaaaaannnnnd POST

[lord-squiggletits]

"Rodimus is a better Prime because it didn't hurt for him to bond with the Matrix while for Optimus it did" headcanon/theory my beloathed.

One day I'm literally gonna snap and make a whole post addressing why what's wrong bc I'm tired of the inaccuracy and tired of ppl not understanding the Point TM of IDW and its version of the Matrix/Primacy and even more tired of people putting down Optimus in favor of Rodimus by essentially arguing that being unworthy means you deserve to be punished/put in pain bc you just weren't good enough to hold the Symbol of Ultimate Authority

#it's wrong on so many levels both in terms of lore and as well as like what the general themes of idw1 are #it's just a validation contest using the matrix as some magical symbol to decide who's the most special #which is ironically something that was a plot point in exrid/OP. specifically how stupid of an idea that is ldskjflksd #ppl revealing that they havent read anything besides mtmte/ll as usual #like half the reason ppl think optimus is a bad prime and rodimus is a good prime is literally bc like #optimus was written by an author who was specifically trying to deconstruct him (sometimes to the point of absurdity) #and rodimus was written by an author who takes a more optimistic/idealistic approach. and is also better at writing #but also like am i seriously the only person who thinks that that argument is fucked up????? #like 'OP felt pain which means he's unworthy/not a real prime/not a true leader' #ok so you think that there's a hierarchy of moral goodness in which anyone who falls short of that Moral Ideal should suffer #as a sign of their unworthiness?? like does that not sound dystopian as hell to any of you?? why would you WANT the matrix to work like tha #even if the theory were true (which it isn't) why would you view the matrix as a good authoritative moral judge of character #if its idea of 'moral judgement' is to inflict pain on anyone who's supposedly not truly good/worthy #wasn't the entire point of the ending of LL (including rodimus being a good leader) that everyone is worth it? #like rodimus literally said 'you ARE damn well good enough' or something like that #so what? everyone else in the universe tries their best and that's enough but somehow when OP suffers it's like #a sign that he's not actually a good prime/leader?? we're really going with the punitive perspective purely for One Guy?? #swear to god ppl are projecting their authority issues onto Optimus the way they shit on him for things they would excuse #if any other character did it #Optimus is uniquely deserving of pain/being marked as unworthy bc idk he was a cop once and that offends my delicate sensibilities #what's even funnier is how much harm was inflicted by rodimus as a captain sheerly due to his stupidity or ego but everyone forgives him #i guess bc as long as the matrix likes him that means he's valid no matter what he actually does as a person #WHICH IS SOMETHING IDW ITSELF ARGUED AGAINST BC A LOT OF THE PRIMES THAT WERE CHOSEN BY THE MATRIX #WERE DICKS AND THE FACT THEY COULD WIELD THE MATRIX DIDN'T MAKE THEM GOOD PEOPLE #like oh my god stop using the matrix as an arbiter of moral authority in idw1 it literally goes against the themes of the story #including the themes that are embodied in rodimus himself #idw op love

[everlastiingiimmortals]

wishlist — is it weird that i want someone to be rude to Jing Yuan? i want someone to try to provoke him, not through threats to him or his loved one but insults, derogatory assumptions slung his way, comments on his appearance or his demeanor or his behavior. i want someone to drastically underestimate him, and maybe not even realize how grossly incorrect they are in their assessment of him — because that's canon. whether it's because they don't really know a part of him, or all of him, or because he's no longer the person they once thought they knew, i want that conflict. i want that misunderstanding. it doesn't even have to be significant or particularly hurtful, but i want to showcase his tolerance and the way he looks at you so evenly, that in the silence following your words you realize you made yourself an ass for assuming. assuming what? anything. relationships, habits, personality, his pacifism as a general, truly anything that could be found or misunderstood to be a fault simply because you don't know him is on the table, but you cannot apologize because before you can even say sorry he's brushing off your words like he's heard it tens of thousands of times.

#//wishing star; (WISHLIST) #this is a tall order because im not asking for enemies #i'm asking for friendly/neutral/etc muses to fuck up in their understanding of him #and in that mistake make a gross error #what i want is the /judgement/ flung his way as it is in canon because truly nobody really understands the depth of jing yuan's life #not even his son #i want someone to assume this man has never had a lover in his life and receive no answer in response and just regret what left their mouth #i want someone to comment on his size or how much he sleeps and assume that he really is just slacking off because he will not correct them #BE PROBLEMATIC TOWARDS HIM!! I PROMISE IT IS OKAY #THE WHOLE POINT OF HIS CHARACTER IS HOW MUCH DOGSHIT HE'S WEATHERED OUT OF SHEER LOVE AND MF WILL NOT STOP NOW BC #THOSE UNDERESTIMATIONS SERVE HIM SO WELL #honestly u dont even gotta be /problematic/ because theres so much of him that could be very innocently misunderstood #pls just gimme those kinds of conflicts pls pls pls pls YALL LOVE HIM TOO MUCH

[bonsaikitten444]

never make a cow themed insert oc before the game is finished, worst mistake of my life

bonus them snuggling with a idol because we stan committing idolatry around these parts

#ultrakill oc #kinda? not really #machine oc #bonsai.art #im working on that terminal entry trust #theyre so happy to see Minos!! (hes about to “judgement” them out of existence) #my baby my silly guy #should i stop drawing my oc i keep saying im gonna make non ultrakill in ultrakill? yeah. Am i gonna tho? nah #like ik i said last post they arent an ultrakill oc but its my comfort character my rules fuck you

[citrinide]

Saying this in the nicest way possible.

Some people really need to shut up.

#cecil.fm #DESPERATELY begging some of you to stop ignoring huge parts of a character JUST because you like them #He's an asshole. He's CONSISTENTLY an asshole. He makes slights and unnecessary judgements toward EVERYONE. PLEASE IT'S NOT JUST THE CHASSIS #yes this is about Wheatley obviously I'm going to be pissed over people misinterpreting characters from my special interest AGAIN #I was there when people UwU-ified him and treated him like a precious baby while demonising GLaDOS at the same time I'm bashing heads in rn #they're. fucking. FOILS!!! #THEY'RE BOTH BAD PEOPLE OH MY GOD THEY BOTH MAKE UNNECESSARILY RUDE REMARKS YOU NEED TO ACCEPT THIS OH MY GOD #I am begging oh my fucking god #there's moments where I see this behaviour and like desperately want to block people because oh my god what ELSE are you blatantly ignoring #like I'm not innocent either here I'll be the FIRST to admit my f/o is a shitty person too! He's a pathetic little suck up #he's annoying and so fucking rude but I'm not ignoring any of that! #The portal fandom has such an issue with this I swear to god. nothings changed we're going in circles. character analysis is dead. #I think thats what made me cancel LaaC originally too. fuck. #this is why I stay in my little Aperture Tag corner. Because at LEAST we aren't operating under the false pretense that Nigel is some saint #forcing you all (non-specific) to play the game again and TRY to explain away the blatant instances of him being all types of awful #just a general sentiment I've seen again recently that I REALLY despise. stop declawing characters im going to MAUL you #anyway sorry for the tag rant im just very passionate about this game and people misinterpreting characters WILDLY off is. Yeah :)) #extra note: blaming the chassis for his actions as if he wasn't predisposed to that behaviour is a stupid ass take and always has been <3 #i could go on for hours but I'd hit the note limit so <3 #one of my biggest pet peeves in fandom honestly.

[simmaster]

a collection of rust and things ive tagged as him

#sorry for the second one but not the first ive decided he is bi its just never mentioned bc its not relevant to the case #but he prob didnt want to fuck marty so for the second one i do apologise i just thought it was funny #i was so autistic about making this every sc was chosen very carefully #especially the first one bc its his rant about how humanity should stop evolving where he is a judgemental asshole hypocrite shithead #(although i wanted to use him at the travelling church bc thats even more accurate but i couldnt find a sc i liked) #and i chose the third one bc while that is a summary of rust in general its very him when hes crash so i needed a sc of him ''in character' #anyway. no one is reading this so i need to stop rambling to myself now #micah.txt #detectiveposting

[p2ii]

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#0ne piece fans talk about zoro (and Luffy's tbh)'s intelligence and hygiene in a way that doesn't sound borderline ableist challenge #(failed) (impossible) (fuck you +'justification I don't care about' + 'sbs quote I don't care about' etcetc) #it's not even ABOUT HIM atp. just the way y'all talk abt that shit in a vacuum makes me so uncomfortable sometimes #like this is Tumblr entry level shit. lacking academic skills dosnt make you stupid and blanket judgement of poor hygiene (again. not talki #about mosshead specifically. I don't CARE about his workout routine) is a dick move??? #like y'all remember real people struggle w that shit for actual reasons right? #also I feel there's a level where the directionally challenged jokes just stop being funny #ppl have 5 jokes abt zoro: he's racist (be so fucking FR) he's directionally challenged. he's dumb. he dosnt bathe #and yet ppl are mad when s@nji haters refuse to see the nuance of sanji's character over his CANONICAL sex offender joke #like one of these is alot more justifiable imo #not that people like considering zoro's character on a deeper level anyway #just the same 3 jokes with a 'devoted to luffy' thrown in ever once in a while if Ur lucky #zoro fans may be 'annoying' and I can't talk on the front of dudebro's cause idk #but like. we're right I think. and also the only ones not so fucking mean to him all the time? #silly bullying between friends and actually not understanding his character or being weird abt his 'flaws' or whatever are completely #different things #also the z/s traitors... sorry but unless it's ooc this ship exists for s@nji

[bitchthefuck1]

How long does a show have to be bad before y'all stop saying we "just need to give it time" and accept that it sucks? Serious question

#like. after the first season erased Inej's trauma and established the characters in ways that completely fucked up the trajectory of their #arcs you couldn't scroll more than 2 seconds without seeing someone chastizing any naysayer with 'im sure they'll include/fix/make that #work in the next season stop complaining its not fair to judge it'. and now that season 2 is out and Inej's trauma was ignored even more #than before and they've shuffled all the plot beats and character moments in ways that rob them of their impact and make half of them v #virtually meaningless because they haven't been built to i STILL see people mocking and chastizing anyone who speaks against it with #'oh my gosh just give them time to tell the story they clearly changed things for a reason and obviously they must have a very good idea #that they just haven't gotten to yet and if you stop complaining and stream the show nonstop we'll get season 3/the spinoff and itll be #so great' and like. where is your faith coming from? what have they done that makes you think they're good at this? why do you trust them? #how long does something have to consistently suck before you accept that it sucks? #when are you finally 'allowed' to point out that just isnt very good? how many seasons need pass before you can pass judgement? #shadow and bone

[blackkewpie]

not to expound upon the political implications of fandom every chance i get but noel gruber is revolutionary gay representation because he wants to be fucked up and evil and it is so disheartening to see transformative works where they act like his wants and personality are character flaws. roadblocks in the way of the most conventional and milquetoast gay romance story ever put to word document. which isn’t terrible but the fact of the matter is noel gruber exists to say not every gay person wants to be normal or wants to have a normal easy heteroimitative life. marlene dietrich was a bisexual woman who endured mountains of hardship on every level and did important things and made important art. jean genet was a writer and activist who lived on the fringes of society doing survival sex work for most of his youth. liberace was never *out* out and was torn apart relentlessly by tabloids about his life. these are the people he canonically admires, he wants to be a starving artist and live a fantastic, queer, risky life that offends and challenges the mainstream. not because he is too naive to want a normal quiet life, but because he was raised in the bosom of the most banal, sterile, conservative small town existence he could have possibly been in and knows for a fact he wants the complete opposite. queer assimilation to the heteronormative standards of life has been a powerful tool in our survival, yes, but the point of that is to survive to make a world where that isn’t necessary anymore. the ease straight white cis abled society offers is one that exists at the expense of those who do not fit it. that is why the girl is fucked up. in a perfect world she shouldn’t have to be any other way.

#idk I just started reading a massively hyped transformative work in the fandom and jfc #it doesn’t hurt anybody and I know why it’s there #but dear lord #the amount of times they go out of their way to either implicitly or explicitly #punish or contort the aspects of Noel that make him fucked up #it’s just interesting #esp because they also make him trans which is why I’m reserving judgement #obviously they’ve done some of the work bc they’re not being weird about his gender expression #but OOOF you’re so close come on come on you can do it #also my other favorite character is constance and I can talk about black joy and radical acceptance with her for hours #but understanding what is oppressive about small conservative hegemony is crucial to understanding noel #and tbh thats his flaw to overcome by the end of the show imo #going from take me up and away above this small town cliche #to befriending mischa and sharing Constance’s joy during sugar cloud #realizing he did challenge people and was tragic and counter culture in his own way #in his own silly little small town #that’s the mountain he scales #to stop reducing his own accomplishments #but that has nothing to do with changing the fact that he doesn’t want to be like everyone else #and would have taken his queer rebellion further if he could have #ride the cyclone

[padfootastic]

Remus is definitely the most woobified, sugar-coated marauder in fanon. He was so interesting in canon when he was portrayed as a character who was on the good side but with typical villain traits: charismatic manipulator, selfish, gaslighter, etc. His motivations were understandable too. What are your thoughts on him? How do you feel about him in fanon vs canon?

hello 💜 i absolutely agree with you! re remus: i have one super rambly answer here which i still fully stand by. also some more thoughts under a cut so remus fans can skip this one lol

honestly, fanon remus makes me so annoyed i don’t think i can even properly articulate it lol. it’s gotten so bad that people will completely forget how the man acted in the books and then have go and say ‘oh it was completely out of character for him to do x’ when like,,,,no? (i mean, if u don’t care about canon then great, just say that and we’re gucci) like i’ve literally seen people argue him trying to run out on his wife and unborn kid was ooc as if we didn’t get multiple examples of his cowardice (self admitted) and avoidance tactics. like, he was not a saint and he definitely was not a morally upstanding person. he often comes off so much more favourably compared to sirius and james when the man wasn’t any better. all his faults are whitewashed into ‘he was scared of losing the only friends he had’ which is such a shit excuse (even more than the ‘poor werewolf’ one). i once saw someone saying ‘how do you think remus would’ve reacted to harry’s illegal tournament entry’ as an aside to ‘how would sirius have reacted as a free man’ and i remember being completely baffled because…we know how he reacted? which is that he didn’t. the man didn’t even bother to send a letter to harry, didn’t show up before the task when everyone else’s families did, didn’t help him with any of the crises, wasn’t there post graveyard. like, there’s a theme here. remus has no interest in cultivating a relationship with harry (or if he does, he has a very shitty way of showing it). honestly, he’s kind of terrible at relationships in general imo.

i’ve mentioned this before, i think, but also the double standards with which he’s treated coupled with the complete lack of accountability is so frustrating. like, remus can mess up more than anyone else but it’ll never stick. for eg, you’ll have so many people saying sirius treated harry like a second coming of james (and i do blame the movies for that one) but remus’ repeated usage of james as a way to manipulate harry is completely ignored. like that scene in poa is actually cruel. sirius’ forced absence from harry’s life is thrown in his face, but remus is never once questioned. (it’s why him being called a second godfather is a pet peeve of mine tbh). he wasn’t a known werewolf until poa, what the fuck was he doing until then? that’s the thing right, there’s so many gaps in his storyline that u can fill it any way u want. fans will do it favourably, while people like me who don’t like him won’t.

there’s also the whole sirius aspect of it, for me. as far as fictional characters go, i think remus is terrible for sirius. like most people think the exact opposite, yeah? remus is out of sirius’ league, there’s a power dynamic that’s skewed in sirius’ favor, remus’ low self esteem, trust issues blah blah. but i genuinely believe it’ll be sirius who comes off worse in a r/s relationship. so ykno, that just adds to my bias lol.

editing to add: guess it’s the hallmark of a successful manipulative character, though, that he flies under the radar the way he does eh? like that’s the sign of success right there, that he can pull all the shit in the world without it sticking to him so good on him lol

#remus lupin critical #like that man literally tells a 13yo harry that he’s gambling his parents sacrifice away. fuck man. that’s heartless #and it’s not like he did anything to make harry understand why he must be careful. didn’t have one meaningful convo with him did he? #but feels the need to pass judgements like these #i’m sorry if u were expecting a more neutral/balanced answer lol #my dislike for him has exponentially increased in the past few months #i can accept he’s an interesting character bc of how utterly grey he is. but that doesn’t mean i rly like him lol #i think i could’ve? if the remus fandom wasn’t the way it was #clearly they like the fanon version of him better but i just can’t get behind it tbh #it’s just annoying how he’s constantly treated with baby gloves s’all #also!! the fanon view makes it so that the ooc tag is *never* used #so even if u want to escape it u can’t #like i’m sure someone would be like ‘well pen if u don’t like remus just stop reading & bitching?’ #but that’s not possible when he’s *everywhere* and u can’t even filter it out lol #and i’m constantly living in the hope that it won’t be that way in a fic #which does happen ngl. just very rarely #pen’s asks

[snixx]

my most formative friendships will always be with the scared-of-balls girls who consistently got picked last with me for team sports in pe and with whom I’d spend the whole period complaining with in loser solidarity <3

#so I made a new friend today:D #no actually I can proudly say I’ve been the last person chosen for teams in pe every single class for the past five years 😎 #this one time everyone paired up and the teacher made me play with the wall by hitting the ball at it over and over again ksjhfhhfhjh #(I laugh now but god I cried so much and wrote the longest emo diary entry at 2am that day) #I still stand by my judgement that pe is unnecessary and public humiliation that traumatises you for life #but anywayyy it gave me character development and catalysed some of the best friendships of my life so not complaining #i stopped giving a shit in ninth grade definitely haven’t cried on court since then #I think that’s when I started skipping pe on the regular idk why I thought I was super stealthy then but now I def think it’s badass #when I couldn’t sneak off I’d just spend the whole period complaining with the scared of balls girls or pretending I was troy bolton lmao #ANYWAY I couldn’t sneak off today because the teacher has her eye on me now but I DID make a friend #took me back to my roots tbshouldve known this is how I’d make my first friend in this godforsaken class oh my god #physical excruciation

[invictarre-archive]

( @acalculatedfuture​  /  Anabel )

#I can make it easy; I can take the lead. if you think they're looking at you; they're looking at me | answered ask #it's our time to shoot for the stars; and we're not gonna stop until the world is ours | in character. #acalculatedfuture #I saw that your anabel is p judgemental / gives a lot of harsh criticism and so I was referencing that here <33

[llycaons]

oh my fucking god of COURSE she feels the need in the middle of a serious conversation to ANNOUNCE oh of COURSE I would never go to times square to see the ball drop, that's SO gouche and BENEATH me lady shut the FUCK up you are not better than anyone else just because you're rich and get attention for singing holy shit I hope this bitch (the CHARACTER not the player) dies. and this is ironic as hell because there is literally nothing tackier than loudly proclaiming how classy you are so. fail

#I would never wish death on a real person for being annoying in a game but I do hope her character dies forever #so she can stop acting like she's better than everyone. and like all she cares about IS herself! #this does not make the argument 'she sings pretty and people like that so it's okay that she's harvesting life energy from them' #look very good! jesus christ. tell us MORE about how you're so rich and classy and full of yourself yeah we LOVE it #and I get its a game for fun and everyone is playing along etc. but just once I want to see her put in her place just ONCE #someone doesn't like her song and she's subject to someone else's judgement and she sees how much that sucks. just ONCE #d20 lb

[sidesteppostinghours]

i scream a little whenever i think about caines 'gone soft/driven' achievement juxtaposition and thats just how it has to be sometimes

#SO GLAD I TOOK THE TIME TO OVERHAUL HIS CHARACTER BECAUSE EVERYTIME I THINK ABOUT IT I WANT TO SQUEEZE HIM. LIKE A STRESS BALL. #he is not empathetic he is not particularly nice but they Want to be good- or at least not as bad as they could be #they dont want to become the sort of villain that harms people unnecessarily for their goals #but hes going to be anyway because he refuses to give up on what he believes in #he is deadset on achieving them and he knows that at some point he has to make the decision between saving people and completing the missio #and when the time comes they wont be saving people #and maybe they know that #and maybe thats why theyre so comfortable with letting others know theyre the villain #especially with chen #they trust his judgement more than they ever should #he wont stop for him but he believes chen needs a fair chance to stop him if he ever goes too far #im going to. strangle them #they are an AWFUL villain. an awful villain #but they ARE a villain no matter what #caine lynzal #pulp speaks