#queen channary

[impossiblesuitcase]

So interesting to think about how Channary would view Cinder. Would she find her cybernetics disgusting? Of course. But would she blame Levana and declare her precious Selene innocent? Undoubtedly.

She would hate Adri for mistreating her daughter, and be proud of Cinder for reclaiming the throne and becoming queen. She would be satisfied that Cinder marries Kai—Channary's own choice—and becomes empress. But she would mock Cinder's humble job as a mechanic, and certainly would disagree with her decision to dissolve the Lunar Monarchy.

Channary loved Selene, but would Channary love Cinder?

#tlc #the lunar chronicles #lunar chronicles #selene blackburn #linh adri #levana blackburn #queen channary #channary blackburn #linh cinder

[wassupnye]

I just KNOW once adri and pearl kick the bucket, Channary will be tearing them apart for what they did to her baby

#tlc #the lunar chronicles #linh cinder #cinder #marissa meyer #tlc cinder #prince kai #queen channary #queen selene channary jannali blackburn

[abeehiltz1159]

so y’all are trying to prove that Cinder’s Asian but you are aware that her mom was just a tan Lunar and had no connection to the Commonwealth right

#just sayin #lihn cinder #the lunar chronicles #queen channary #eastern commonwealth

[chemicallyyourss]

i wanna say that i finally realized the wordplay with the Lunar Royal Family’s surname, like, 3 days ago.

It’s not even that well hidden, and I could figure out all the other little subtle wordplays in the series, but it stumped me at Blackburn??

#the lunar chronicles #lunar chronicles #tlc #linh cinder #marissa meyer #cinder #selene blackburn #levana blackburn #queen levana #channary blackburn #queen channary #jannali blackburn #queen selene

[deadlynightshadeunderthestars]

If Rafal Mistral met Queen Levana

I think that if they met, they would be best friends. Especially the original series versions of themselves. Heck, if they weren't from different stories and universes Levana could have been Rafal's queen.  (spoilers ahead for both series)

Both had problems with their siblings. Levana hated her sister Channary and Channary was the one who manipulated 6 year old Levana to burn the left side of her body. Channary also was known to go after the wrong men or always be in love with people in a not so serious way.

With Rafal, hopefully Rhian isn't such a psycho as Channary. But Rafal is annoyed constantly with Rhian's crushes and, well, he kills him. he thinks he's the better twin, like how Levana thinks she would be a better queen than Channary, but the difference is that Rafal loved Rhian, while Levana hated her sister.

Levana has fantasies of her niece dying and Rafal did imagine Rhian and James dead. (I actually like Rafal but I hate Levana, just because she is much worse.)

Both have horrific/ugly versions of themselves. For Levana it's when she looks at a mirror and her glamour disappears and Rafal when Sophie destroys the ring.

Both are tyrannical people who use torture and manipulation to get what they want. They are sad to kill, but all they want is power (though I think Rafal is more toned down than Levana in this regard, because Levana, you know, torched a toddler. I don't think even Rafal would do this if he did have a nephew.) Levana uses Emperor Kai for power and to get control of Earth and has no problem disposing of him. She kills Evret, her husband, to be free to marry for ambitions, even though she "loved" him.  She manipulates Evret to love her and forces him to marry her. She even wears his dead wife's face. Rafal loves Rhian but kills him for his own gain. He may have genuinely loved Sophie, but he did manipulate her a lot to accept the ring and stay with him, mentioning how he was the one, etc. Luckily, Sophie had more of a choice than Evret did. Rafal tries to copy Tedros for Sophie, so he'd totally agree with Levana about using Evret's dead wife's face. He disposes of Evelyn Sader when she fulfills her purpose.

Levana was obsessed with getting Earth, all for Luna. Rafal wanted Evil to win and wanted Gavaldon. Both do horrible things to get power and control. Levana uses letumosis and her wolf man army and Rafal has his zombie army and Sophie. Both also do everything for "love." Levana says (originally it was her sister):" Love is a conquest, Love is a war. Here is what I think of love." Rafal is literally a living example of how to live out this saying. (look at what happened with Rhian, Sophie, etc) Both were hurt in some way and are desperate to be loved, and you can see they are people who are lonely and have no friends in their backstories, which is why they are so.. insane. Both are people I wouldn't want to piss off, to be honest.

Both cover their faces, at least during certain parts of the story.

Also, Rafal would probably use a glamour. As who, or what I don't know. (He did shapeshift as other people.) And probably a slight glamour because he's already attractive and ethereal and all that but who knows-- (in the Lunar Chronicles his appearance would probably thought of as glamour made so..)

I originally posted this on my Wattpad account.

Okay so this is embarrassing and maybe just me overthinking and getting distracted when I should be doing something else.

I will crawl into a hole now. I know this is really dumb.

#queen levana #queen channary #rafal sge #rafal mistral #rhian mistral #just my thought #the lunar chronicles #the school for good and evil #me getting distracted #hahah

[therealkaidertrash21]

channary isnt asian and neither is levana. they’re caucadian

That would be kinda impossible because Cinder, Channary's daughter, IS asian. but, ok.

Also, even if they weren't canonically asian, it wouldn't even change the plot at all if they were. it wouldn't be wrong to headcannon them that way. Like Annabeth Chase in the Percy Jackson series, in the books she was white and blonde, but in the new Disney plus series she's black. And it's ok, it doesn't change the plot, the actress is great for the job.

I guess it's fine if you don't see them as asian, but it's not necessary to send me and ask about it, because is not that big of a deal, Is not like I'm erasing representation.

#tlc #the lunar chronicles #cinder #thelunarchronicles #lunar chronicles #marissa meyer #tlc tag #linh cinder #selene blackburn #selene channary jannaly blackburn #channary blackburn #queen levana #levana blackburn

[moonsstan]

okay but imagine vampire by olivia rodrigo but its cinder saying those things to levana.

#LIKE?? damn. #correct me if im wrong but i think im right #linh cinder #cinder #princess selene #selene channary blackburn #selene blackburn #cinder tlc #queen levana #levana blackburn #the lunar chronicles #tlc #tlc fandom #cress darnel #carswell thorne #prince kai #kaider #cresswell #winter hayle blackburn #ze’ev kesley #luna #moon #marissa meyer

[gingerale2017]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MY FAVORITE AMAZING AWESOME WITTY SARCASTIC HOT GORGEOUS SMARTASS MECHANIC QUEEN/ EMPRESS

🎊🎊🎊🎉🥳🥳😘😘💕❤️‍🩹👩‍🔧👩🏽‍🔧🦾🦿🧰👑👸

#the lunar chronicles #cinder linh #to the one and only queen cinder selene channary jannali linh blackburn #te amo tanto #lunar chronicles #cinder #queen selene blackburn #empress cinder #kaider #tlc #i’ll make a fic later #💕😘

[linh-cindy]

Levana: i like my toast the way i like my niece Selene

Levana:

Levana: BURNT

taglist: @impossiblesuitcase @winterrhayle @opakitty @kaider-is-my-otp @salt-warrior @a-salting-the-world @ikosburneraccount

#the lunar chronicles #tlc #linh cinder #queen levana #levana blackburn #tlc levana #selene blackburn #selene channary jannali blackburn #omg such a long tag #why oh why

[nonelysianthoughts]

All that pity the beginning of Fairest has given me for Levana is slowly vanishing….

#like yes Channary is terrible for what she’s done to Levana #still no excuse to do what she did to Evret like his wife literally just died give him a break #tlc #fairest #Marissa Meyer #Queen Levana #levana blackburn #the lunar chronicles

[yellowraincoat]

Plot holes in the lunar chronicles that I’ve noticed on my millionth read through that WILL NOT detract from my enjoyment:

1) Marissa Meyer does not know how freckles work

see Cress having freckles despite zero sun exposure (but ig probably the exact amount of vitamin D she’s supposed to get) aboard the satellite

2) Cinder is wasian/more generally mixed raced and Channary looks so similar to Cinder that Kai sees a portrait of her and thinks for a moment that it is Cinder… but Levana is… white?

I guess the logical conclusion is that levana is also wasian, but I feel as tho that is not the authorial intent bc that is white woman behavior if I’ve ever seen it

the other logical conclusion and the one I personally subscribe to is that Cinder’s father had Asian heritage, but Channary and Levana were white and Cinder just… westernizes/whitewashes herself a little when she uses her glamour…??? Like… to match westernized beauty standards?

idk neither answer is particularly satisfying but I feel as tho the series is thematically stronger if the former lunar queens who want to do colonization, genocide, and imperialism are white women.

3) Dr. Erland should’ve absolutely infected Cinder and Thorne in that tunnel based on the absolutely unhinged and unrealistic but pre-established rules of letamosis

They were in very close quarters for at least an hour as he was entering stage 2 or 3 of the disease. They should’ve all been fucked. (Not to mention how closely Erland interacted with Thorne when they went to the labs)

4)… shouldn’t Dr Erland have had a perfectly good letumosis antidote on him (or at least on the Rampion) yk, from when he stole it from the palace and fled the country???

What happened to that huh? Did we just forget about her?

#I still love this series with all my heart but some of these things I do have to jump through hoops to come up with reasons for #the lunar chronicles #tlc #tlc memes

[impossiblesuitcase]

your post about levana's glamour made me realize that she probably never looked like herself. i think it's safe to assume that she didn't feel safe to "look like herself" after she was disfigured as a child but that really is so sad. it's also interesting in comparison to channary, whose glamour was basically a "perfected" version of her natural appearance. levana would rather wear a modified version of a dead woman's face than think about how she looks without glamour.

Exactly! Channary traumatised Levana so much that she physically struggles to remove her glamour. We saw that in Fairest, Channary slaps Levana and calls her "my ugly duckling". If Levana 'fixed' only her deformities with a glamour it would require her to look in a mirror and look at her natural features. But she is so mentally scarred that she cannot bring herself to do it. When she finally does in Fairest, she has a mental breakdown. Levana has been avoiding the reality of her appearance for decades, perpetuated by Channary's constant reminders that she is damaged. Even when Levana removes her glamour to show Evret, she struggles to do so because she is completely unaccustomed to baring her true appearance.

Channary further insults Levana by herself using mirrors. It tells Levana that she is so confident in her beauty that she has no fear that someone would see her true face in contrast to the "ugly princess." That destroyed Levana's psyche.

#the lunar chronicles #lunar chronicles #tlc #queen levana #queen channary

[brainrotlesbian]

Ok back to the Lunar Chronicles cause I had a random thought. Princess Selene was born with her lunar gift while Cress was not and was considered a shell. Imagine a story where their roles were reversed, where Selene was the shell and Cress was born with her lunar gift. How would Channary react to her child being born a shell? Would Selene be sent to be with the other shells? Would Channary try to protect her daughter, because we know that she truly did love her daughter for the brief time she was alive with her? If Selene was allowed to remain the Princess of Luna, how would the people react? Imagine the rumors in Artemisia about the embarrassment of a Princess, or even that perhaps the queen was cursed.

#aspen stfu challenge level impossible #the lunar chronicles #tlc fandom #cress darnel #selene blackburn #this is just me speculating

[chemicallyyourss]

Levana: “I can’t let my planet have another horrible Queen like my sister, I need to get rid of Selene! She won’t be fit to rule and she’ll be just like my sister! This is what will be best for Luna!”

Also Levana: Indirectly attempts to kill her niece, orders her husband and step daughter to be killed, takes babies from their parents mere hours after birth because of something they can’t control and leads parents to think it’s an infanticide but really she’s enslaving the children to harvest their blood to make a lab made virus, takes kids at young ages from their homes to tamper with their genetic makeup and make them into human-wolf hybrids and strip them of their humanity and rights, lets the majority of her planet live in poverty and work in extremely unsafe conditions and only give them weekly rations that barely sustain them at all, executes people randomly and publicly for little to no reason at times, does corporal punishment and executions of ENTIRE FAMILIES and groups of people for the little actions of a single person that could range from saying the princess is pretty to trying to flee the country to escape infanticide and slavery and poverty

#the lunar chronicles #lunar chronicles #tlc #marissa meyer #cinder #linh cinder #levana blackburn #queen levana #winter hayle blackburn #evret hayle #channary blackburn #selene blackburn #the blackburn family is dare I say fucked #yeah that checks out Levana #the math ain’t mathin

[deadlynightshadeunderthestars]

I do not like Queen Levana at all, but to be honest, Queen Channary is no better. I don't really understand why some people like her.

#the lunar chronicles #queen levana #queen channary #just a thought

[kryativelogos]

Cinder's Racial Ambiguity Frustrates Me (Spoilers for The Lunar Chronicles)

Hi hello long time no post! I haven't had a chance to really consumed any media until just recently so I'm finally back with another review!

Today we're gonna talk about The Lunar Chronicles, written by Marissa Meyer, and published in 2012. I had read this novel back in 2015/2016 when Fairest and Winter were newly released and had the opportunity to reread it (albeit in audiobook form) these past few months. Buckle up babes, I have a lot to say.

I wanna just say right off the bat that in terms of world-building, plot, and even character design, this story still holds up quite well from when I read it the first time. From how each character gets their own time to shine and development, to how they all connect with one another, I loved seeing the major plot unfold and how it concluded so nicely.

But I do want to discuss something that has bothered me from the first time that I read this series and still does after reading it a second time: Cinder's race.

Now you may be wondering, why do we care what Cinder's race is? Well, I'm Asian, Singaporean to be specific. And it would be great if Cinder's race was Asian/Chinese as the website, as the author, and as most people in the fandom believe to be. However, I am skeptical for this to be the case at all.

We don't know what race(s) the Lunars are.

They're an "evolved" race of humans that have magical abilities. Even Meyer herself states that the ethnicities start to blend because it's so far in the future. It's already quite difficult to pinpoint specific ethnic groups just in the royal family.

Queen Channary had olive skin and dark brown hair which could be a myriad of ethnicities and races although I'm heavily inclined to believe that she is/was South/Southeast Asian due to her name being taken from the Khmer dialect found in Cambodia [evidently in the wiki]. Even Queen Jannali was described to have had tan skin and chestnut colored hair, which again, says nothing about her race, but her name was taken from the Aboriginal language [also found on the wiki] so that may count for,,, something. Essentially, following Cinder's lineage, we already have little evidence to support the idea that Cinder is Asian, let alone Chinese.

Cinder's description in the book did not help her case (and I believe Meyer attempted to retcon this later on, like, look at the new covers - she looks so [East] Asian, but then you read the description in the actual book??).

Her first description in Cinder was tan skin, angular body, and mousy brown hair. Mousy implies, light brown. Literally look up "mousy brown hair" online, you'll see a bunch of eurocentric, white women. No Asian that I know, naturally, has "mousy" brown hair unless you dye it or it is heavily sun-bleached (which has happened to me but still not light enough to be considered "mousy", I could have safely called it brown). Cinder was also told by the end of the book, that she was found in Europe. You can see that as someone who's been wanting an Asian MC would be disappointed with finding out that ah, she must be European (and later, more than likely, French). Even if Cinder was Wasian, I believe genetically, the dark hair would have been dominant. I can't say the same for the tan skin since she was outdoors a lot and Asian folks do tan quite easily in the sun and remains tanned for at least 6-8 months.

I would love for Cinder to be Asian, I really would, but all of this evidence just keeps her race too ambiguous personally. I can't seem to get over the "mousy brown hair". If not for this particular descriptor, I would 100% believe Cinder to be Asian. But because we don't even know Channary or Jannali's race with only their names as some kind of clue to Cinder's background, we will never know for sure.

I don't think it helps that a majority of fanart I see of Cinder has very eurocentric features, which draws me back to her thinking she's French/European. It also bothers me that while Winter and Iko get rather well-written descriptions of what they look like (aka black), we can't seem to get one good description, showing some form of Asian representation that I'm sure many of us are grasping at straws for, of the main character of the series. So many of us are still hoping that Cinder is Asian simply because she's living in New Beijing (which I will be making another post at some point about how I, personally believe, is a poorly designed/created city in terms of world-building) but she's literally adopted from Europe (Luna if you wanna get technical, see the first point).

I know my points are kind of moot and there wasn't much warrant for me to go on a tirade about a fictional character created in 2012. But this is important to me as a WOC, as an Asian girlie who so wants to connect to a character that looks like me, that was written to look like me; but I feel cheated and the ambiguity makes it hard for me to fully love Cinder as much as I love the other characters (if anyone is asking, my favorite characters are Winter and Scarlet). If anyone else has thoughts about this or has something to prove to me once and for all that Cinder is Asian. Please send it my way.

PS I wish I had a physical copy to directly quote the book, but again, my second reread was through audiobooks, so I can't reference pages at all atm. Sorry about that TuT Hopefully I can get my hands on a copy from the library soon so I can edit this post with direct lines.

#the lunar chronicles #lunar chronicles #linh cinder #i just want cinder to be asian is that too much to ask ToT #marissa meyer