#other than 'harry styles'

[weirdfishy]

if i listened to music you liked, i love you. you might not know i did, that your music sits among mine because i love you- that i feel your love of the song each time i listen to it, that i think of you and smile, that i enjoy the song even more.

#idk man i'm going through my spotify liked songs and i could tell you which artists/songs are in there bc of people #like my friend connie sat next to me in band in middle school and sheʻs why i canʻt ever like any of harry styleʻs other albums-- #other than 'harry styles' #brockhampton made it into my likes bc serena and jason who sat at my table in sixth period chemistry did #hamilton bc of cherish- specific songs my cousin would have stuck in her head on the summers she stayed with us #florence + the machine bc eya & i've got a couple mechanisms songs bc kyr #happier by marshmello bc of nathan & ofc the various songs my little dance friend group did in middle school #the song emmanuel recommended (trndsttr) & the song zak sent me- mariner's apt. complex -i wasn't able to listen to it until a year after #the songs my dad wrote for my mom the songs my little brother was obsessed with but didn't have a phone to play it on and asked me #rant bubbles

[seawitchkaraoke]

I will say this one more thing about this: I do not believe the other try guys (or even many people at 2nd try) knew Ned was cheating before they found out sometime earlier this month. Not because I have some blind faith in the other guys to be good ppl (imagine saying ‘‘he would never’‘ when someone you might have said that about literally just did smth horrible), but because:

- knowing he is cheating and hiding it/keeping him on would be an absolutely ridiculously stupid thing to do and I think they’re smarter than that. Because with how well known they are, that’s a ticking time bomb until someone will snap an incriminating picture in public and if it then comes out you’ve known and protected him? That’s your image of wholesome, good guys absolutely destroyed.

- all the claims that they did know for months or years, that i’ve seen came from random twitter or reddit accounts or were even entirely anonymous. That’s not evidence. That’s some random person saying some random shit

- they were already cutting him out of videos before the video was leaked. Meaning they were already preparing to cut ties with him regardless of whether the fact he was cheating came out or not so ‘‘oh they just have to fire him now bc it got out’‘ doesn’t really make sense.

- if him cheating was somehow an ‘‘open secret that the entire company knew’‘ it wouldn’t stay secret long. Nothing ever does if a lot of people know about it . You ever try to plan a surprise party for someone without someone tattling? This is this except tattling would seem like the more moral option to many ppl and make it even more likely that someone tells so again hiding it in that case is just a stupid strategy even with NDAs (bc your employee could leave instead of signing said nda or they could just hide their tracks well while leaking smth)

Now I will believe that they quite possibly weren’t planning on telling the public why they got rid of Ned, both to protect Ariel and others from harrassment and to protect their own image - any dirt on Ned also harms them bc if one of the wholesome good guys isn’t actually all that, maybe the others aren’t either. If the video wasn’t leaked I imagine they’d have been vague or said it was for personal reasons or whatever, but they still would have seperated from Ned.

I also think like.... listen, you can know your friend has flaws and maybe sometimes flirts too much when he’s drunk or sometimes says inappropriate shit and you can forgive him that and still be friends with him and try to push him in a better direction, you can do all that and never suspect he might be cheating. Because there’s a big jump from one to the other and we always see the best in the people we love. It’s easy to say in retrospect that it was obvious but shit like this is never obvious. You don’t suspect your friends of being capable of that stuff unless it’s pushed right in your face

#try guys #ned fulmer #i am just tired of ppl circulating ''they knew for years'' around like it's a fact #with like.... a screenshot of some anonymous message as the proof #i really don't think they knew #i think the moment they learned about it they started the process of getting rid of him #bc anything else would simply be the stupid thing to do #(then again making out in public and going to a harry styles concert together was stupid) #(so what do i know) #(but i'd like to think that the other three guys combined would have more braincells than that) #man i feel silly even making a post about this #but i am just so amused/annoyed by the posts that are like #''apparently they knew for a year now'' with a screenshot of a reddit comment by a deleted user like babe....... #they've known for a year and so apparently did this random reddit person? but only now are ppl coming out and saying it? sure

[star-trek-dumb-comics]

Ok so I finally watched Prodigy ! And it was surprisingly good. This is obviously a kids' show but I ended up being pretty invested in the story. The main character started as Ezra Bridger-ass annoying but he's grown on me. Genuinely I think this might be the best new trek show with Lower Decks lmao. It even got me caring about what happens to CHAKOTAY of all things !

Also it had GREAT alien rep omfg there were so few humans I LOVE THIS SHIT !!! especially UFP founding members rep ahhhhh !!!!!!!!!! I've been wanting this for YEARS they did it for me

#+ Enterprise aliens !!!!! Xindi ! Denobulan !!!! #But on the other hand I hope they won't go too “voyager season 8” in season 2 - I mean not more than season 1 #since there's the EMH and apparently even Harry Kim will show up #I still want this to keep it's identity I'm sick and tired of new trek leaning too hard on previous shows #anyway nice show and love the art style #plus Threshold got a mention so 100/10 #also that episode with the galaxy quest-ass aliens was hilarious with the TOS impersonations especially Kirk lmao #(not me complaning about fanservice then straight up saying “I loved this episode where they did fanservice !!!!”) #star trek #prodigy #pro #edit : oh I also hope to god they won't tie in to Picard shit please I want to keep ignoring that show please

[braverytattoos]

Larry Hug - AOTV

#sorta a better quality vid than the other recordings #so i had to #larry #lt #aotv #louis tomlinson #harry styles

[louisplumpyass]

waoyf core

#louis tomlinson #harry styles #ik yall argue than fuck each other #so predictable 😭 #larry #louis and harry #larry stylinson #stylinson #harry and louis #larries #written all over your face #waoyf #one direction #one direction fandom

[asteracaea]

i love the genre of song where a girl is singing about the girl who is stealing her man but it sure sounds like she's more obsessed with her than with him

#the other girl by kelsea and halsey #perfect by selena gomez #better than revenge #JOLENE #girl crush when performed by harry styles

[doonarose]

Some of my university students had a debate about the homosexual subtext of a scene from High School Musical 2 in front of me today and instead of explaining to them our lord and savior Good Omens and also Our Flag Means Death, I just said something about queerbaiting, and let them think of me thusly:

#to the extent that i opened this image on my laptop and said that that was me #like dont get me start on high school musical because i have nothing to say #enjoy what you enjoy #but dont act like dissecting high school musical while these other miraculous lovely beasts exist is your best choice #they'd sooner assume I tortured animals than that i was a fangirl and wrote half decent smut #they're all fucking reading it though #bloody bitching to me that wattpad is blocked by the university #and i am just like not tumblr or ao3 #and they still try to convince me 'what is an ao3' that it's just holding hands and harry styles inserts

[elliesgaymachete]

Sometimes I’m too lazy to curate my own playlists for ships I like, but then I try to listen to other fanmade ones on Spotify and I’m like god, y’all have such BAD taste in music. I gotta fuckin do this MYSELF I guess

Anyway I’m lookin for root/shaw song recs pls 💛

#listen to something other than top 40s pop PLEASE I AM BEGGING #like it’s not bad #but when like a good third of the playlist is Harry styles tswift Lorde or Halsey like #please just listen to something else

[mumblesplash]

Hi you tagged a post about panel shows with 'ask me about Noel Fielding'

I'm asking

I've seen him on Taskmaster through YouTube and I've seen clips and bits of him on the bake off show, but not much panel stuff. Tell me more? Specific recs? Go for it.

oh sure!

basically i ended up getting really into noel's work back in early 2020, mostly because i just found the guy really fascinating.

so idk how much is commonly known about panel shows (pretty sure they're mainly a uk thing?) but basically it's like if you added a veneer of structured gameplay to college cafeteria lunch conversations, and noel's been on a lot of them.

here's a compilation of some of his panel show stuff, he's usually paired with russel brand in the older ones and richard ayoade more recently (warning for a few instances of Unfortunate 2000s humor, but the way noel interacts with it is part of why he's so interesting to me)

now if you've been following me for a while you'll have probably picked up on the fact that i really love media that feels loosely-scripted and somewhat unpolished, and this is because in addition to the humor being more spontaneous you get a really interesting look into how people work within group dynamics.

for instance if you watch through this here you'll notice that not only does noel avoid aforementioned Unfortunate 2000s Humor himself, he also has a knack for steering other people's bits away from tense or hurtful territory into lighthearted absurdity. example around 11:30, where another panelist clearly makes lily allen uncomfortable with a joke and noel manages to simultaneously call him out for being gross and pull the focus away from lily entirely without bringing down the mood at all (yes some of it probably comes down to editing, but it's still impressive)

anyway if you like the panel show format there's a lot more of these clip compilations on youtube, and iirc a decent number of full episodes on there for free as well

there's also the mighty boosh, where he plays an absolutely baffling character named Vince Noir opposite his best friend, and whether or not the show as a whole is your thing (some of it did NOT age well) the way they do dialogue is just. something else

(this clip is only like 2 minutes and the one i'd recommend the most out of the 3 in this post if you want the quickest possible idea of What Noel's Deal Is as a creator)

lastly, and this is just a fun fact, noel was actually the inspiration for the movie Baby Driver. apparently the entire movie was inspired by this music video:

#also i can pretty confidently say: most Gender you'll ever see on a cishet man in your life #harry styles fucking WISHES #actually for all its ~problematic~ bits the mighty boosh handles gender and gender nonconformity better than almost any other show ive seen #like yes there is a recurring bit where minor characters derogatorily refer to vince as howard's girlfriend and it's played for laughs #but also neither vince nor howard ever correct anyone about vince's gender OR their relationship #and neither of them are ever bothered by it #plus there's vince's 'great confuser' line #splashasks #anonymous

[jrueships]

rewatched shooting stars aka the baby bron and friends movie <3 very cute

#wood harris was so adorable in that role i love cringe coach dad harris #the fab five <33 #thats so lame lol i love them #the movie was rlly long tho.. like scene-wise the pacing could be better cus i watched with other people #and we looove talking through boring scenes of movies and we talked A lot #we dont rlly talk during movies like that.. only during quiet or long takes so #and then the editing style was like?? near the end like it tried to be winning time which is fine cus wt didnt invent that style but #it's just weird cus it suddenly switched like that idk #BUT the length of the movie did help highlight a lot of the people #their friendship felt incredibly real bcs it was #seeing romeo go from adversary to own honorary video game controller was <33 #their lil 'epic fight' which quickly concluded them running and hiding in the team bus #the goofy kids were just goofy kids forced to deal with growing up too fast #maybe thats why the editing style suddenly switched so stylish-like near the end.. everything happening at once #suddenly all the life is flashy and stuff #even if that wasnt on purpose i like thinking of it as a new positive way idk i like having more than one side to the coin #that still connect to the same coin #kinda wish they talked more about cotton tho smh his only personality really was kind funny and likes to eat #so basically every heavyset person in media #i wanna hear abt his problems as well!! #hes a real person too! hes gotta have em!! #mane #i guess we dont know 😭

[mooneeeee]

HELLOOOOOOO

So he knows he’s sexy?

#joseph quinn #please be my boyfriend #i will love you more than i’d love any other man #and i literally love harry styles with my entire heart #novio

[userkoo]

manifesting a guts tour presale code email soon… i’m not gonna get waitlisted like i have been for almost every other show i’ve ever tried for in the past 5 years

#i got a presale code for bts in las vegas #other than that? i haven’t been able to get tickets on my own account for YEARS #i got waitlisted for LA #i had to use a friend to get harry styles tickets in 2019 #we all know how the eras tour went for almost everyone #hopefully this will be my lucky day 🍀🤞🏼

[softestepilogue]

look i love clownin harry styles too. but the reviews saying he was super bad in the policeman are not true. like he wasn’t perfect and they definitely could’ve hired a better actor but he wasn’t horrendous.

#harry styles #my policeman #i do in fact love harry styles #but i love clownin him too #but he honestly wasn’t that bad #like i wasn’t expecting a lot but he gave more than i was expecting #i haven’t seen any of his other movies #and i probably will not watch any of them #so yeah i was surprised that he really wasn’t that bad #like honestly if he practiced he’d actually be good #i think people were just trying to be mean which valid but he wasn’t terrible #i was expecting him a lot worse with the way y’all were talking about him #and then he was just okay #also tbh i found the movie to be boring ??? #but that’s not hs fault #i was just ready for it to be over #op

[sunriseinorbit]

did you guys know that mcr and harry styles are both performing in tokyo on the same night bc i think everyone needs to know that

#hannah.txt #harry styles #my chemical romance #mcr #yes the mcr show is in chiba but for all intents and purposes that is the tokyo show #like how arena shows in the us will be in new jersey but that's clearly for the nyc crowd #i'm also going to be in tokyo that weekend but i'm seeing neither :') #nothing will ever be as funny as mitski and seventeen performing less than a mile away from each other in seattle last summer tho

[dogsliampaynedoesntinstagram]

Thoughts on the latest NYT piece? The conclusion isn't the one I'd go with but I appreciate some of the points raised

I have a lot of thoughts anon. I don't think the piece is very good - there's a lot of ideas in there and she's not prepared to own some of the things she's claiming. But I do think it's a good distillation of the dynamics of the current Harry discourse, and I think why it appears to be endlessly appealing. So I'm going to talk about it.

I'm going to begin at the end - the piece ends with "No matter how he identifies, if Mr. Styles wishes to dance with our symbols, he would do well to pay more attention to their politics, regardless of whether he dreams with us of liberation."

There's a sleight of hand here - which she equates all queer symbols into symbols of queer liberation. She quotes Harvey Milk's claim that everyone should be out - while ignoring that there have always been tensions an disagreement within queer politics.

Part of the problem is that she doesn't pay a lot of attention to the politics of the symbols Harry engages with. She mentions the rainbow flag, flowers worn by Oscar Wilde, taking a crocheted hat and putting it in his pocket, and lyrics from a 1984 George Michael song. I think the idea that Harry was flagging is silly. And the Rainbow flag was certainly developed as a symbol of queer liberation - but it is now the most co-opted, watered down, depolitised queer symbol there is. So much so that everyone corporation wants to bathe in it for one month a year and Facebook made it a reaction button. None of that is on Harry.

The most notable point about this is two of the symbols she mentions are from queer artists who were closeted at the time. It's hard to imagine a more appropriate queer language for Harry to be exploring. Oscar Wilde is a fascinating and important figure in queer history, culture and politics. He also sued someone for suggesting he was a sodomite. It's patently absurd to try and claim that he was, or can be used as, a symbol of a vision for queer liberation that rests on everyone being out.

I think in order to make an argument that Harry doesn't pay sufficient attention to the politics of the symbols he uses, you have to pay a lot of attention to the actual politics of the queer symbols he uses. This opinion piece would have been much more effective, powerful and true, if the author had acknowleged that the politics of queer liberation in general have always been just one of many threads within queer culture and politics.

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Then there's the deployment of Harvey Milk and the idea that every queer person must come out. What bothers me about this sort of claim - is that people will flirt with it, but they won't commit. I'm really prepared to engage with it as a political framework, but only if people will admit that that's what they mean and the full implications.

Because the argument isn't that every queer person should come out. Instead it's that Harry, in particular, should come out. She makes a specific, and I think highly odd, claim that is often implied in discussions of Harry. That Harry not coming out is in some way a reaction to, or a suggestion, that the world is less homophobic than it used to be:

These soft, fluidity-affirming words muffle the danger of the tantalizing fantasy Mr. Styles presents. Implied by his celebrity is the idea that the greatest fights against anti-queerness are over and that it’s good, or at least good business sense, to play coy to appeal to the masses — even those who would rather see you dead than in love.

I just don't think 'the way that this person is in the closet implies that the greatest fights against anti-queerness are over' is at all sustainable as an argument.

I think if you strip back all the layers and the ideas that the author knows aren't sustainable so they haven't committed to(and the absurd flattening of decades of queer politics), so much of the Harry discourse amounts to: "Harry hasn't suffered enough to engage with queer culture in the way that he does."

And I absolutely disagree with the politics of that claim. But I do just get stuck on it factually. Harry was 16 when he became a public figure. Max Clifford was working for his label. Engaging with the UK tabloids was a core part of 1D's management and label's strategy. I o sometimes wonder if one of the reasons people jump to the idea that Harry must be straight is because they don't want to engage with what it would actually be like to be a 16 year old queer boy in a boy band with Max Clifford for a publicist.

#I could make a whole other response #about the politics of her argument #as opposed to the Harry of her argument #despite her gestures at the politics of liberation #I think this is a very individualistic approach #Because far more important than any of the claims in this piece #(lots of which I disagree with and some of which I have some sympathy with) #the fact that Harry Styles is at the centre of any discussion of queer politics #is a sign of weakness

[icepop680]

So I’m curious. Why is Shawn Mendes closeted? Because he’s a singer? Because he’s not macho-man?

How about Harry Styles? Because he goes outside of typical gender norms? Because he’s a singer?

Face it. You either think they’re gay because they give off a “gay vibe” or you want to be with them and you don’t see men as a threat to you.

#they won’t fuck you #and it’s not worth hating their significant others over it #you all like to preach fuck the binary and all that shit #but at the end of the day #you’ll claim someone’s gay if they wear necklaces and nail polish #but it’s okay because you won’t judge them #right? #fucking wrong #that only enforces the stereotype. #shawn mendes #harry styles #look #I’d love it if they were #more power to them #but no more or less than if they’re straight #anti larry #gay