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#neutral run undertale
ultrabean · 10 months
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JUDGEMENT
The last corridor is probably a pretty common subject in UT fan art but I decided to attempt it anyway because I wanted to test my lighting and perspective skills~
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optimistic-tree · 1 year
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Opinion
People think Toriel would be like-a lot more torn up about her death, or the deaths of others than it seems like she would be?
I mean, it seems like a pretty reasonable assumption. Even more so if Frisk has completed a Pacifist Route, and shown that they can rise above any challenge, and be nice about it (unless you want to be rude while your sparing everyone, which she won’t hear about for a while anyway).
But if you kill her on a Neutral Route, she tells you that you are strong, to leave, to not let Asgore take your soul, and to be good. None of these seem particularly torn up about her death. She can’t be spared at a certain HP threshold, if you keep hitting her, she dies. She doesn’t surrender.
If you kill her when she’s sparing you, she just says that you are just like everyone else. Presumably a reference to her volutarry exile following her child’s death and the war on humans. Not extremely mad. And if she thinks that of everyone, why would she care for all those civilians, so much. Frisk is a child. Do they not have enough stacked against them, without barring them from killing those who would kill them?
If you spare her, she does not tell you to not kill others. If you kill more than eleven monsters, the only thing it changes, is that you interrupt her. I do not think that if you attack monsters or the dummy in front of her, she will do anything. She tells you not to fight the dummy, with the idea that you will remain there, safe and comfortable. You are going to the wider underground. Six of her children have died there.
She does say that she was protecting the others from you by keeping you there if you kill literally everyone in the underground, but that’s a pretty large amount of evil to deal with. Maybe in another context, she’d be a bit more forgiving.
So-maybe she’d swallow the revelation you killed people better than you think she would. Just a thought
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agentravensong · 2 months
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thinking about how the extra area added on to a pacifist run of undertale, the true lab, is about alphys's past mistakes. how it ends with the story reaffirming that, despite the pain she's caused, the thing that matters is that she has now made the choice to do the right thing. she's still worthy of her friends' love.
thinking about how undertale doesn't expect the player to get a pacifist ending for the first time. how it's more likely than not that the player will kill toriel the first time they battle her, how lots of players don't initially figure out how to end undyne's fight without killing her, etc. what it expects — not even expects, really, but hopes — is that the player, if they care enough, will use their canonically acknowledged power over time to make up for those mistakes.
no matter how many neutral runs a player has done before committing to the pacifist run, the thing that matters to the characters, to the story, is that you've chosen, now, to do the right thing.
compared to alphys, the player honestly gets off lightly, in that you're the only one (other than flowey) who really remembers any harm you might have caused. and any direct guilting the game could have done about it is long past at this point. instead, as undertale often does, it makes its point via parallels: alphys caused harm, and she knows it. she has committed to being better. in doing so, she has unlocked for herself a better ending to her story. and she deserves it. she's forgiven.
those structural narrative parallels are all over undertale, if you know where to look. and that's one of the things that makes it so fuckin' good.
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chocopink · 3 months
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i played undertale yellow and i rly like starlo 💛
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carlyraejepsans · 10 months
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you gotta replay undertale. alternatively, you gotta watch a playthrough from time to time if you're in the fandom, and it's GOTTA be a livestream. the sense of scale just gets lost in recollection otherwise.
"sans is a hard boss" yeah no shit he is, he's sans. one thing is saying it. one thing is hearing a twitch streamer go "after beating undyne, i feel like i can deal with anything in this game", 5 hours into his run, 30 kills left in the CORE, and then you go check the time and there's 8 hours of gameplay left
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wybienova · 4 months
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inky125 · 2 months
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Enjoying a nice cup of tea
Credits for the designs below the cut
(the @ are for their twitter accounts)
🩵 @britt_ninja
🧡 @UTBraveheart
💜 @mikerophxne
💙 @millyltn and ^
💚 @clownboo_Art
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datflatpancake · 2 months
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Tfw you can't cry because you have no eyes
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lumioleo · 4 months
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Undertale yellow neutral run spoilers!
run!
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exar547 · 24 days
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was imagining what it must've been like on Chujin's last visit to the steamworks. oblivious last goodbye hugs seem to run in the Ketsukane family huh...
also!! was trying a somewhat different style with this, i simply cannot keep it consistent lmao
the pose in the art is heavily referenced off of this btw
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(you might've actually seen a post i made a while ago about this actually. well i finally decided to draw it lol)
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salty-an-disco · 2 months
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Cold plays Undertale
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fushitism · 30 days
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we call them
"undertale neutral endings!!! teehee! >_<"
but then they turn out to be arguably worse and far more chilling than the officially designated bad ending
like, ok, dont get me wrong, it's impressive there are so many variations in dialogue and scenarios
the sheer thought and care put into this game is staggering, i dont think anyone can ever discredit that regardless of ur stance on the game as a whole
but Also.
what. the. fuck.
the desolation...
the hoplessness
the utter bleakness of it all..........
THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEUTRAL ABOUT ANY OF THIS?!?!?
and why do i feel like neutral endings have the rawest lines ever?
im completely floored by this one.
for these words to come out of ALPHYS, of alll people?!!! Absolute Cinema.
and the normal talk sprite being used here made it all the more horrifying and impactful, for me personally. holy shit!!1!1!1?
you should have, alphys, you really should have.
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EUWHEUEH?1!2? no the fuck i WILL NOT be seeing ya, sans.
thanks for the offer though
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haha! ohh, well ain't that just bone-chilling? [badum tss]......
no, seriously, im abt to shit myself STOP
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alarming implications aside, sans just has the best quotes ever. sry abt ur friends but ure soo real, boneman!
and again, you will nawt be seeing me, sans. put down that gaster blaster
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......... resetting at speeds surpassing that of Light.
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and to see this on ur screen after choosing to kill flowey (neutral run)........
my shivers have been sufficiently timbered, oh my LORDD. dont just CASUALLY say that to me?1!1! THE FUCK U LOOKING SO CRAZY FOR1?1?!
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robosuta · 11 months
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Everytime I draw them I get gender euphoria
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very minor no mercy run spoilers(?) under the cut maybe a little au of sorts?? idk and it's a bit long
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honestly, i was happy at the time there wasn't a guardener fight (because i found her fight in the pacifist run kinda difficult) but now that i think about it could be quite... sad? if you know wat i mean?? maybe despite Axis's warning, and, y'know how he looked, she still did what she was programmed to do, which is protect the flowers & stuff like that. plus, she'd probably have much more defense in the geno run, so you'd just LOAD her with bullets, and maybe the backups too, not too sure
anyways, sorry for the block of text, i just think she had a lot of potential (not trying to seem like i don't like uty, of course!)
but basically, Clover would just shoot her with a fuckton of bullets as she slowly died, and some of her systems crash one at a time (idk 'bout that last part though, i'm not really clever when it comes to coding and that kinda stuff)
might make more about this concept, might not, idk
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atwas-gaming · 3 months
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I'm curious... (also, spoilers)
After a character gets eliminated, the rest will have a turn.
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carlyraejepsans · 11 days
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Yknow, you’re blog reminded me on how I need to watch a No Mercy playthrough because to this day, I’m not quite sure where [PLAYER NAME] ends and ‘Chara’ begins.
i think that's the point! there's a VERY blurry area where we begin, where our role within the story does, what chara is and what frisk does. an intentionally blurry one, at that. and i think no mercy is the one iteration of undertale's story that acts as the exception that makes the rule, neatly and irreparably dividing "us" from "chara".
it's no coincidence that we achieve it in the route where we stack up as much LV as is physically possible, a mechanic textually described as "distancing [you] from yourself".
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