#mrs norcliffe

[unapologeticallygay]

Anne Lister, the lesbian diarist dubbed "the first modern lesbian"

L by Joshua Horner (c 1830), R by Mrs. Turner of Halifax (c 1822)

Anne Lister lived from April 3, 1791 - September 22, 1840. She was an independent landowner from England who was noted to always be dressed in black and not partaking in typical femininity. She became well known after her death when her diaries were discovered and decoded. The diaries were written from age 15 until her death, parts written in code, and detailed her history of attraction and relationships with women.

“Burnt Mr Montague’s farewell verses that no trace of any man’s admiration may remain. It is not meet [meant] for me. I love and only love the fairer sex and thus beloved by them in turn my heart revolts from any other love than theirs” 29 Jan 1821 – written in Anne’s journal [reference SH:7/ML/E:4]

She did not appear to be ashamed of her sexuality as she would openly court women she was interested in and had many lovers. Her first love was a pupil and roomate at the Manor School in York when she was 15, Eliza Raine. It was with Eliza that she developed the code she would use in her diaries to write notes back and forth with. The first entry in Anne's diary was "Eliza left us." Her second named lover was Isabella Norcliffe and she remained an occasional lover through the remainder of her life but rejected her as life partner, perhaps because of disagreeing with Isabella's drinking. Isabella then introduced Anne to the woman that would become the love of Anne's life, Mariana Belcombe. Mariana married a man even though it upset Anne but they continued their affair for a while after. She eventually told Anne that she was ashamed to be seen with her due to her masculinity and they parted ways. Mariana would later try to get Anne back when Anne inherited a large amount of money and the Shibden Hall but she rejected her. She went on to marry (as a church blessing, not legally recognized) Ann Walker because she met her social standing. This would be the first gay marriage in England. Anne passed away six years after their marriage.

Her wearing all black everyday was a public statement to others of her being different, as at the time young unmarried women typically wore white or lighter colours while black was reserved for mourning. Men would yell and shout at her things like "are you a man or a woman?" and would follow her when she was in public. Because of her looks her nickname from the public was "Gentleman Jack". She largely didn't respect men as she believed to be more educated than most who only studied one subject.

“I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say that I am like no one in the whole world” 20 Aug 1823 – written in Anne’s journal quoting Rousseau [reference SH:7/ML/E/7]

Anne was adventurous and liked to travel. She was the first woman to ascend Mount Perdu and the first person ever to ascend Mount Vignemale. At the time conventions called for women not to travel alone, they had to at least have a male companion to protect them. She did not abide by this and often travelled alone and later on with her wife. It was during her and her wife's visit to Russia that she was bit by an insect and succumbed to fever. She was 49.

Her diaries were originally first found by a relative of hers, John Lister, in 1890 but because John was also gay and feared his sexuality being found out if he broadcast her diaries, he reburied them. Later they would be found and translated in 1983 by historian Helene Whitbread. A section of her diaries remain lost.

"Writing my journal has amused & done me good. I seemed to have opened my heart to an old friend. I can tell my journal what I can tell none else." From Anne Lister’s journal entry of 16th September 1823.

Sources

https://www.annelister.co.uk/

https://museums.calderdale.gov.uk/famous-figures/anne-lister

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[whatdoesshedotothem]

1834 Oct[obe]r Tues[day] 7

8 5/..

11 35/..

P

No kiss fine morn[in]g – n[ea]r an h[ou]r look[in]g at the panorama of the lake of Geneva etc. bef[ore]

dress[in]g – br[eak]f[a]st at 10 – Game fr[om] IN- [Isabella Norcliffe] Langton kill[e]d on the 4th a brace of pheas[an]ts, and d[itt]o of

partridges – ord[erin]g ab[ou]t n[or]th chamb[e]r and enlarg[in]g new c[oa]ch h[ou]se – the wind[ow] int[o] joiners’ shop

finish[e]d exc[ept] glaz[in]g – 2 of Mallins[o]n men and 2 lads here – Ch[arle]s and Ja[me]s How[ar]th at n[or]th ch[ambe]r ward-

-robe and the latt[e]r cas[in]g tent r[oo]m wind[ow] – Pickels shift[in]g stones fr[om] Hall Green – my fath[e]r

and Mar[ia]n w[e]nt ab[ou]t 11 in th[ei]r op[e]n carr[ia]ge to call at Cliff hill and A- [Adney] and I walk[e]d aft[er]w[ar]ds and g[o]t th[e]re

at 1 – ver[y] well rec[eive]d and sat th[e]re an h[ou]r say[in]g our call w[a]s on Miss Rawson (Mary of

Millh[ou]se) as well as on Miss Walker – look[e]d ab[ou]t the plantat[io]ns – so[me] ti[me] at Lidgate –

Mr. Hirds’ foreman spo[ke] to me ab[ou]t Stump X Inn – w[oul]d be gl[a]d to ta[ke] it – s[ai]d I th[ou]ght of

lett[in]g it by ticket – Mr. Hird hims[elf] ca[me] whi[le] we were th[e]re, b[u]t we d[i]d n[o]t see h[i]m to

sp[ea]k to, as we w[e]nt out by the f[iel]ds int[o] Bramley Lane - ho[me] (thro’ Hipperh[olme] and the end

of Comm[o]n wood) at 4 3/4 – f[ou]nd Throps’ son, as we w[e]nt, in the walk gett[in]g Sycamore

seed w[i]th my leave giv[e]n so[me] ti[me] ago – out w[i]th the workm[e]n and walk[in]g ab[ou]t in the new

app[roa]ch r[oa]d in Tr[ough] of Boll[an]d wood till aft[e]r 6 – din[ner] at 6 1/2 – coff[ee] – h[a]d Pickels – set

to prepare for plant[in]g ivy along the wall at the top of Wellroyde low[e]r wood – w[i]th

my fath[e]r and Mar[ia]n a lit[tle] – 50 min[ute]s w[i]th my a[un]t till 9 1/2 – wr[ote] the ab[ov]e of today till 10

p.m. at w[hi]ch h[ou]r F[ahrenheit] 62° fine day – writ[in]g cop[ie]s of let[ter]s to Mess[ieu]rs Hammersleys, Hutton, Milbourne,

till ver[y] near 11 –

[wolfy58]

1827 May Saturday 12

9 50/60

12 35/60

thinking of Mrs. Milne just before getting up - bowels right – from 10 3/4 to 11 3/4 read the paper from 11 50/60 to 12 1/2 breakfast – then wrote a note to Mrs. MacKenzie ‘Mrs. and Miss Lister will be happy to see Mrs. and Miss MacKenzie to dinner, at

‘6 o’clock, on Friday next the 18th instante Mrs. and Miss Lister hope Mrs. MacKenzies cold is better’ - - dated ‘Place neuve de la Madeleine No 2 Saturday 12 May 1827 –

‘The servant will call for an answer tomorrow morning’ – From 1 to 1 1/2 finished dressing – Letter from Mrs. Lynn at 1 40/60 pp. (pages) mentioning the death of her daughter – fearing it had not appeared in Galignani – if not, begging me to have it inserted, and giving me a copy of what was, in fact, inserted in the paper of yesterday – saying also she could not leave France without writing – going to Dieppe on Tuesday – to stay there 3 weeks, and thence direct to Northamptonshire – the poor girl suffered very much – given up since January – her bones cut thro’ her skin which therefore became full of sores – Mrs. Sherard in deep anxiety for her husband – very ill – sat down immediately – Took up the letter begun yesterday – said a bed sick headache had obliged me to have it and go to bed, and I was yet hardly sufficiently recovered to bear writing but afraid of not finding her at Tours, should not know her adress at Dieppe, and wished her to know our sincere condolence our sincere interest in her welfare, and that we should be happy to do anything for her here now and always –

‘we condole with you in your affliction – we congratulate you on the extrem fortitude with you bear it’ – I had just before observed ‘ I ha (ve) neither head nor time to fill my paper with reasonings of any kind – we know that there is a

‘power which ordereth all things wisely – It is enough – we want no other and no better reason for submitting in patient resignation to the apparant evil, or the hidden good which may befal us’ – ‘I grieve over the distress

‘of my old friend Mrs. Sherard, will you remember me to her in whatever way may seem kindest and best’ – ask for 2 or 3 lines from Dieppe – my aunt joined me in best regards – ‘your welfare will always interest me as

‘tho’ I had better right to assure you that I am always, my dear Mrs. Lynn, your very sincere friend’ – had finished my letter (wrote the latter 1/3 p. (page) 1. and the whole of p. (page) 2) at 2 1/4 – read it to my aunt – took George with me and went out at 2 40/60 – put my letter into the post à madame madame Lynn Rue Royale, No 17, Tours’ – it will get to Tours on monday – went to the bank – exchange 25/40. – about 20 minutes there – as to Isabella Norcliffe’s dividends Mr. Phillips said there were so many bills wanted last march at short dates, impossible to get them – but the Norcliffe’s had not been losers – they would get a better exchange by waiting – however, it might not occur again, that he might be obliged to send them bills at 2 months – Lafitte himself seldom at the bank after 12. went to the chambre des Deputis at that hour – sent George home and with the note to Mrs. MacKenzie vide above – went to madame Huchez, told her to come at 9 1/2 on monday morning – then to madame Contant – said I was ashamed to have kept the book so long, but would buy both this and the mémoire à consulter – these (thence?) soughtought Herpin le vinaigrier rue de l’Eveque – then went rue de l’Echelle about my gayters – to come without fail on Thursday morning – then sauntered along the rue Saint Honoré the marché Saint Honoré rue neuve des petits Champs and neuve des Capucines, and got home at 4 3/4 – wrote 15 or 16 lines of this above Dinner at 5 1/4 – came to my room at 6 50/60 – wrote the last 10 lines – settled with George – counted over the money got this morning all which took me till 7 10/60 – went out at 7 20/60 – to Mrs. Barlow we went out together almost immediately – walked to the barrière de lEtoile and up and down the Champs Elysées – got back to Mrs. Barlow’s at at a little before 9 – tea about 9 1/2  - sat talking till after 11 – Mrs. Barlow had given up the idea of our going to Switzerland this year – said I did not quite give it up – the chances were about even whether we went or not nextin month – had talked much of my aunt while walking – my regret at her being so much alone – perhaps should like to have Mrs. Lynn with us – or to have some one here whose attentions and company I could pay for – or to have my aunt comfortable in a pension at Geneva where she could always have society if she wished it – got home at 11 25/60 – read the contes de Voltaire for 10 minutes

F 54 at 11 1/4 a.m.

54 at noon

54 1/2 at 1 p.m.

55 at 7 1/4 –

fine morning no sun –

fine sunless day –

#anne lister #mrs barlow #paris 1827

[misslisterkeepsajournal]

Sunday 16 March 1834

8 10/60 11 3/4

x

Incurred a cross just before getting up thinking of Miss W [Walker] very fine morning Fahrenheit 51.° at 8 3/4 breakfast at 9 1/4 with Marian - civil Note from Mr. Waterhouse with the catalogue of Mr. Radcliffe's (quondam Rouge Croix) catalogue of MSS [manuscripts] and letters &c.  now selling at the 'prices affixed by Thomas Thorpe, no. [number] 38, Bedford Street, Covent Garden, London' 1834. the widow is in a madhouse and her scamp of a son (said Mr. Parker yesterday) takes this means of raising money -

from 10 1/2 to 12 1/4 in my walk - delightful morning - read prayers and sermon 2 Mr. Knight volume i. to my aunt and Oddy - my aunt poorly - saw her leg dressed - I think the sore rather larger, but as Oddy thought it much the same glad to withhold my own opinion - asleep for 1/4 hour - came to my study at 2 - wrote out yesterday and so far of today till 2 3/4 - Mr. Sunderland came about 4 p.m. - Told me the wound was certainly rather larger but my aunt's pulse very favourable - again particularly desired him not to come less seldom than twice a week - as my aunt so dislikes taking the anodyne draughts (thinks they prevent her sleeping) thought it would be better to recommend suppositories to answer the purpose of the draughts -

Till 6, wrote 3 pp. [pages] and ends (small and close) to Mrs. Norcliffe copying the title page of the catalogue (25 of my close, small lines) and of the 3 or 4 articles The long article chiefly concerning Mrs. N- [Norcliffe] no. [number] 546, and copying or giving sufficient extracts from articles 638 799 and 839 (Radcliffe, Wake, Wray) - the widow in a lunatic asylum &c. as above -

'I may perhaps be within York of you again before quite the end of the month - it depends upon my aunt's continuing as at present - She suffers a great deal; but I have no fear of immediate danger; but if I have a day or 2 at command, I shall hope to see you again - we talk of going to Duncombe park' -

cannot be long absent - shall not be off (if at all) before after-post-time on Saturday the 29th. instant

'Do pray write and tell me how you are - Come what may, I never do, and never shall forget all your Kindness - I always think with gratitude and pleasure, that you, at least, have done me the justice to believe, I had some sincerity, some steadiness of heart, some deeper and better feeling than many have given me credit for - I have been annoyed, and hurt by those from whom I least deserved, and least expected it; but you have never changed in Kindness, nor I in gratitude, for four-and twenty years, and believe me, my dear Mrs. Norcliffe, always very affectionately yours AL- ' Love to Isabella and all at Croft and to Charlotte too - 'You dont Know the good she did me 2 years ago' -

and wrote to 'Mr. Thomas Thorpe' to desire him to send me no. [number] 467, Lister pedigree, £2.2.0, of the catalogue if still unsold; if not, to inform me who is the purchaser - on receipt of the papers will immediately an order on Messers Hammerleys for the money - 'I am, sir, &c. &c. &c.' -

'no. [number] 467 Lister pedigree. - Abstract of the will of Samuel Lister, of Shipden hall, parish of H-x [Halifax], York, 1632 - Letter of John Pate Neville, Esquire Doncaster, 1812, relative to recording the Genealogy of the Listers in the College of arms. - Ten letters of Miss A. Lister, 1816-17, relative to the pedigrees of Lister of Shibden hall, replete with very interesting notices of the early descent of the family, from their branching off from the Listers of Gisburne and settling at Ovendeyne, now Ovenden, near H-x [Halifax], about the year 1399. -very copious notices, from registers, of the births, baptisms, marriages, and burials of the Listers of Shibden hall, 1554-1771 - Lists of proofs wanting, 1817, relating to the completion of the pedigree - Two lets. letters of Miss A. Anne Lister 1824-25, announcing the decease of several of the family who had died since the completion of the pedigree - Letter of E.C. Lister, Esquire of Manningham, as a subsriber to Radcliffe's Yorkshire pedigrees, 1827. Pedigree of the Cunliffes of Ickley, in Wharfdale, connected by marriage with the Listers. 2£ 2s. shillings' -

dinner at 6 1/4 then coffee - Marian came to me - staid down talking to her till 8 - then wrote the last 20 lines and sent off at 8 35/.. my letter to 'Mrs. Norcliffe Langton hall Malton' yorks and my letter to 'Mr. Thomas Thorpe 38 Bedford Street Covent Garden London Post Paid' - and note with the catalogue in parcel to to 'John Waterhouse Esquire Wellhead' Dear sir - Thanks ('particularly obliged') for the catalogue which I returned tonight for fear of being too late in the morning - much obliged for his ordering the catalogue for me at Whitleys - have written for the 2 guinea lot - united Kind compliments to his family party - 'very truly yours A Lister' -

read from page 508 to 560 end of 'Waldensian Researches during a 2nd visit to the Vaudois of Piemont. with an introductory inquiry into the Antiquity and purity of the Waldensian church and some account of the compacts with the ancient princes of Piemont, and the treaties between the English government and the house of Savoy, in virtue of which this sole relic of the primitive church in Italy has continued to assert its religious independence. By William Stephen Gilly, M.A. prebendary of Durham. 

'Thou small, but holy spot of favoured ground! 'Where'er we gaze, above, around, below, 'What rainbow tints, what magic charms are found! 'Rock, river, forest, mountain, all abound: 'And bluest skies that harmonize the whole. 'Beneath, the distant torrent's rushing sound 'Tells where the volum'd cataract doth roll, 'Between those hanging rocks, that shock, yet please the soul.'

London printed for C.J.G. and F. Rivington, St. Paul's churchyard, and Waterloo-Place, Pall-Mall. 1831.' 'Gilbert and Rivington printers, St. John's square' 8vo. octavo pp. pages 560'

with my aunt from 9 35/.. to 10 35/.. - read the morning Herald partly aloud to her - looking 2nd series Waldensian Researches Till 11 1/4 - very fine day - Fahrenheit 55.° at 10 3/4 p.m. -

Reference: SH:7/ML/E/17/0008 - SH:7/ML/E/17/0009

#anne lister #anne lister code breaker #gentleman jack #1834 #mrs norcliffe

[skgway]

1825 May, Tues. 3

6 1/2

11 1/2

Gave Hotspur oat cake – Went to the workmen at 8 – Came back to breakfast at 9 1/2 – Letter from Isabella Dalton (Croft Rectory), 3 pages and the ends, and the 3rd page crossed – to congratulate me on my return home. Very attentive kind letter – Came upstairs at 10 1/2, from then to 12, wrote (pretty close) the latter 3/4 page 2, page 3, and the ends, and under the seal, and read over and sent off my letter began yesterday to Mrs. N[orcliffe] (Langton hall) – 

Chit chat – Quoted the passage from M– [Mariana]’s letter of the 29th November last, about and in favor of Mrs. Middleton – Told Mrs. N– [Norcliffe] Mrs. Middleton was “the picture of good heart, good spirits, good nature and good temper but good judgment was a different sort of thing for which I could less easily give her credit” – Asked if Mrs. N– [Norcliffe] knew anything of Mrs. M– [Middleton]’s niece Miss Grace who had been living in her house and to dislodge when Mrs. M– [Middleton] had been obliged to return to England late last year – 

After sending off my letter to Mrs. N[orcliffe] wrote 3 pages and the ends, and under the seal, to Isabella Dalton to go tomorrow – Combatted the probability of the thing and denied altogether my having had “the singular good fortune to get into the best society in Paris” – “Singular indeed it would have been, had it been true ..... .... my faith would sooner remove mountains, than persuade me that any person, situated exactly as I was in Paris, could possibly be received in the best society on equal terms” – etc. etc. 

Then mentioned Mademoiselle de Sans, the daughter of the Marquis de S– [Sans] of one of the best families in France (related to the de Polignac, etc. and “rather distinguié – but poor girl! She is in delicate health – She will marry if she lives long, before I can bring her here into Yorkshire or you should see her – She plays on the piano, I had almost said, divinely” . . . . . .  They will all think her a flame of mine – 

Indeed I had seen Marquises, counts, viscounts, barons, etc. Wives of bankers, and of Monsieur de this and de that “but such is not their society in Paris” – The ladies of haut tou peculiarly difficult of access – But hinted I did not despair of getting into this society, should I “return to Paris, by and by, with a good fortune, and 1 or 2 other little advantages, probably within my reach” – 

After finishing this letter wrote page 2 of my letter began on Sunday (very small and close) to Miss McL– [MacLean] Then at 4 1/4 went to the workmen and staid with them till they gave up at 6 20/60 – Sauntered home slowly, and came in at 6 1/2 – Dinner at 6 40/60 – Did nothing in the evening -

Came upstairs at 9 40/60 and wrote all the above of today, which took me till 10 5/60 – Several showers in the morning. Fine afternoon. Rain between 7 and 8 – Barometer 2 1/4 degrees below changeable, Fahrenheit 51º at 9 40/60 p.m. – E [two dots, treating venereal complaint] O [one dot, marking discharge]

#anne lister #anne lister code breaker #Sibella MacLean #Mrs Norcliffe #Mademoiselle de Sans #Shibden Hall 1825 #Louise de Sans

[jackthelasss]

1 October 1818

Char[lotte] came in + alarm[e]d us exceed[ingl]y ab[ou]t Mr. N[orcliffe] who was seiz[e]d w[i]th a viol[en]t shiv[erin]g fit + ver[y] ill.  In an h[ou]r John hav[in]g been call[e]d up, went off in the gig for Mr. Edw[ar]d Wallis + to br[ing] back Burnett who h[a]d remain[e]d in York since Monday.  I wr[ote] a note, at C[harlotte]’s req[ue]st to Mrs. Milne to bid her not be alarm[e]d. Went to Mr. N[orcliffe]’s bed-side twice.  The 1st time his pulse m[u]st have been ab[ou]t 100. The 2d (1/2 h[ou]r aft[er]w[ar]ds) it was perh[aps] 8 + he was in the m[o]st profuse perspirat[io]n I ev[er] saw.

(While with the Norcliffe’s, Anne’s extensive knowledge comes in handy as she stands in until the doctor arrives)

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[veryfineday]

Thursday 11 October 1832

5 50/..

11 5/..

V  V  L

very fine morning and Fahrenheit 62º at 6 and 6 3/4 a.m. – evidently there had been rain recently – off to Lidgate at 7 10/.. and there in 35 minutes just before it began to drizzle and rain along my walK – Miss W[alker] came down in two or three minutes  above an hour at breakfast  she then shewed me the letter from her cousin Mr. Edwards Atkinson thanking her for her offer of lending him five hundred  but asking the loan of three thousand  wrote her a copy of answer which she wrote verbatim  saying she had meant to give him the five hundred but could do no more  straitened by her late purchases etc. for the pr[es]ent  the magnitude of her expenses uncertain for the future and she would not anticipate her resources by borrowing   confidential conversation  she influenced by all I said  Mrs. Hartley tipples brandy and water advised her by no means visiting her at Bingley  got on very well  kissing as usual 

Dinner at 2 in about 1/2 hour – did not take much – afterwards love making and kissing she lying on my arm told her as we got to talking more and more as if we should be together   that I thought of taking down the kitchen part  castellating the new part and the lodge from the godley road  and changing the name to Shibden Castle  that if I could I would give Saint Jamess church a painted window with [th]e likeness of my uncle  that not my sister but the Listers in Wales would be my heirs according to my uncles wish   that as ssoon as we had been settled together  I would settle Shibden on her for life  we talked of the Ainsworths coming to Cliffhill and getting Lightcliffe chapel for him  she might be able to get the archbishops interest with our vicar  I feared that might be refused but I could perhaps apply to the vicar thro the next best channel (meaning but not saying so  Lord Wharncliffe) – as it became dusk we crept closer and I without any resistance got for the first time right middle finger up her queer  at three separate times  she nothing loath but edvidently excited  liking it and wet and taking it altogether as if she had learnt her lesson before in this way too as well as in kissing  she whispered that she loved me then afterwards ssaid her mind was quite unmade up and bade me not be sanguine 

the name of Cliffhill escaped me and she burst into tears  and said if she could regret it at that moment what should she do afterwards  how can I tell what to make of her?  she had casually said Catharine Rawson had often said she should like to live with her  they had long ago talked of it  but now and of late she had thought it would not answer and was getting off  thought then my surmise was probably true  when I fancied that Catharines classics might have taught her the trick of debauching Miss W[alker]  yes Miss W[alker] has been taught by someone we had agreed we could not be quite common friends again  and yet her cool advice to me just before leaving her  not to hope too much  sickened meat heart  and I said to myself as I walked along  damn her she is an old hand and has nor shame nor anything  she certainly takes all very much like one of the initiated –

home in 1/2 hour or 25 minutes at 6 50/.. – drizzling (then rain more or less all the day) changed my clothes – dinner at 7 1/2 – came into the little room at 8 1/2 – wrote all the above of today till 9 1/4 – found very Kind letter 3 pp.pages and ends from mrs. Norcliffe (Langton) will be glad to see me at L-[Langton] and why I should not spend the winter in Bath – poor mrs. James Dalton has fallen and put out her anKle – Charles and James H-[Howarth] were to fasten railing at the bottom of the Dolt walK, and ditto that against wellroyde wood – except this nobody worKing (by day) for me read part of the paper – came upstairs at 9 55/.. – drizzly, rainy day and evening from about 8 a.m. – Fahrenheit 63 1/2º. at 10 p.m. –

#anne lister code breaker #1832 #ann walker #Mrs. Norcliffe

[iredreamer]

Sorry to bother tour, but about "Anne getting naked only with Ann" from the gif, Did she really undress in front of her? Did was that written in the diaries?

That scene will be so intimate... I think I will cry when the scene happens.

hello, about my comment on the second gif here – I think in the series they're gonna show Anne completely giving herself to Ann and I do believe that it will happen only with Ann Walker. I hope the whole thing is gonna play out as a sort of proof of how much Anne really loves Ann (since – I guess – we will not see her getting this close with anyone else). I do remember an interview where Suranne and Sophie talk about this scene and how important it is in the context of the Ann(e)s relationship in the show.

In real life Anne completely gave herself to Ann – meaning she got naked with her in bed – only after Ann agreed to "marry" her.

Wednesday 12, February 1834 > Long capital grubblling so that little time for sleep – she is to give me a ring and I her one in token of our union as confirmed on Monday – breakfast at 9 – Washington came for a little while – Miss Walker’s maid not much fit for packing – I did it all – books and papers etc. etc. in abundance and had not done till 2 – then off to Shibden – Miss Walker ½ hour here with my aunt and a few minutes in my study and off again at 3 ¼ – I went with her in an hour (her own carriage and man and maid) as far as Kings’ Head Inn near Bradford – and walked back and came in at 5/50.. having sauntered up the fields – dinner at 6 ½ – coffee and then asleep on the sofa – with my aunt from 8 ¾ to 9 ¾ – then with my father and Marian and sat up talking till 10/50.. – Affectionate to Miss Walker and told her I should not be long without seeing her – she desired me not to write anything particular – she meant of affection – which I promised – I certainly feel fond of her now, and if I was once really near her (no drawers on) and she was pretty well satisfied I should be at ease – she has often said she wished to be near myself –  civil letter came this morning from Quillacq Calais, to say the plate was sent off to Laffitte's –  and tonight letter from Lady Harriet – vide Friday – fine day – a hail shower as I returned over the hills after leaving Miss Walker this evening F47° now at 11 p.m. – my cousin came gently just after breakfast – [SH:7/ML/E/16/0168]

The 27th of February is when they finally exchange rings, a gesture which tightens and confirms their union.

Thursday 27, February 1834 > No drawers on last night – first time and first attempt to get really near her [Ann Walker] – did not succeed very well, but she seemed tolerably satisfied – Rainy morning – could not have my own carriage, and [Meyers] could not get Miss Walker’s ready till 12 – breakfast at 9 ¾ – a little French – I ½ asleep over it – off to Langton at 12/50.. – damp rainy disagreeable day – She was poorly and tired tho she had got up so well this morning – I saw there was much nervousness about going to Langton but took no notice – I asked her to but [buy?] the gold wedding ring I wore and lent her six pence to pay me for it – she would not give it [to] me immediately but wore it till we entered the village of Langton and then put it on my left third finger in token of our union – which is now understood to be confirmed for ever tho little or nothing was said – At Langton at 3/05.. only Mrs. Norcliffe and Charlotte at home – surprised but very glad to see us, and very kind and attentive – CN [Charlotte Norcliffe] had heard of my arrival from Mrs. Milne – Mrs. Norcliffe now dines at 3, that we sat down to dinner in about ¼ hour – coffee – tea afterwards about 6 ¼ – Miss Walker much please with Mrs. Henry Robinson’s blazoning and with Miss Best’s drawings – our visit went off very well – all sides sufficiently pleased apparently – came away at 7/20.. and home at 9 ¾ – coffee – sat talking till 11 ¾ – glad we went – the Norcliffes very civil to her – her shyness went off and she seemed much pleased with her visit – Rainy day and evening – On the margin, in code, Anne notes: the ring [to] Miss Walker [SH:7/ML/E/16/0174]

Being near – for Anne – means to be completely naked during sex (she does specify when she keeps her drawers on).

Keep in mind tho that in real life Anne didn’t get naked only with Ann Walker. As I said, I think this will be different in the series and we’ll see Anne getting this close only with Ann, but let’s wait and see.

I hope I answered your question :) can’t wait to see that scene by the way, I’ll be like this 🤞🙏🏻 for the whole time praying it is gonna be glorious.

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Tuesday, 11 December 1838

8 10/..

12 1/4

fine white frosty morning – and seen out at 9 1/4 at which hour Fahrenheit 40 1/2° and breakfast in 3/4 hour –

then had Mark Hepworth who had waited ten minutes – paid me for the 3 horses sold yesterday at Bradford fair – (no! Mangnal sold at home before he (Mark) went to Bradford) – the gray (bought in 1835? of Cooper, York) £12.18.0 Blind gin (had put out a jack spavin £6.3.0 and Mangnal £9.10.0 and the 2 pigs £5 with a turn again of 1/. which I of course gave Mark and gave him a sovereign for his Trouble of selling the horses – will lend me one of his till he gets me one – thinks of going to York fair next week –

then had Holt for a moment – thought he had best see what Harper at the Stump X Cross would board and lodge Mr Hird’s Engine-men for – Had Throp – stood talking outside the door – and then left A– [Ann] to see his bill settled while I had Joseph Mann about his account during the time he was waiting of Robert Norton’s making him a straight edge for the Engine men who begin today to put up the Engine – Holt called for a minute on returning – Harper will board and lodge the men at 12/. a week each man – reasonable enough for he says they will want five pints of beer a day –

A– [Ann] rode off to Cliff hill at 11 1/2 – I wrote the above of today – and at accounts till 1 when went down to Mr Parker for about 40 minutes – came to know whether I would put off navigation stock selling to 1 February at 431 per share upon which I should have no Expense it being for a Mrs Wells who lived away years as housekeeper with the late Mr Wiliam Mitchell of Booth Town – selling at present 3 1/12 shares at 440 = 1356 – Expense 7 = £1349 + the interest to 1 February = at 4 per cent say one month £4.10.0 Ditto ditto at 431 = 1329 + 9 per cent dividend 28 = £1357 no Expense but loss of interest – to let Mr Parker know Tomorrow night whether to sell immediately or not

Told P– [Parker] the story of Greenwood’s stopping his midsummer’s rent towards his bill for papering etc at Northgate – and desired him to see him G– [Greenwood] about the Northgate land rent which is to be placed to his account – said the H–x [Halifax] fields ought to be £16 per annum – hoped to be able to pay Mr Wainhouse £500 this Xmas or beginning of next year –

Messieurs Busfield incumbent of Coley and Mr Wilson church warden waited almost from the 1st of Mr Parker’s coming – came to ask A– [Ann] and myself to subscribe towards warming Coley church – I declined for myself said I would Tell Miss W– [Walker] but that if she chose to give anything she would send it – and if not, they would suppose she intended to decline like myself giving anything – 3 or 4 minutes with the gentlemens –

then out with Robert Mann – 1000 bricks wanted for the Engine house at Listerwick – to be taken from the pile left in the garden – out with Robert – with him in the ground above the low fish pond (with Robert from 12 50/.. to about 1 1/2 when came back expecting Holt) – and at the Conery – walling 5 feet high against the Allen Car and against the upper Conery would be 5/. a rood – 10 loads (2 horse) per rood of stone – would be 9d [pence] a yard getting at Hipperholme quarry – would go 7 times a day to bottom of Allen Car – and 6 I should think to the Conery –

had just written the last 20 lines at 2 p.m. – then at accounts and memoranda till 2 40/.. having had small parcel from Mr Harper York continuing working drawing for Tower study Chimney piece and 2 pages civil letter – enclosing the account of Messieurs Sturgess that I had the other day – Booth had best send his accounts before Mr H– [Harper] comes – will be here on Wednesday the 18th instant –

‘Have you seen the inscriptive embellishment Mr Crossland has affixed to the external frieze of the large room at Northgate? I wrote to him about it, but instead of removing it he only changed the letters from black to gold – I told him if he had not had your sanction, I thought you would not approve of it and I suppose he thought golding the letters would make them more palatable’ –

As C– [Crossland] chooses to embellish his own way, I will let alone mine – I will do no more – neither paint nor anything – I conclude he suits the taste of his customers – I have not seen the place since my return – Had just so far at 2 50/.. – It seems to me that

3 1/12 shares at £440 = 1356.0.0

1 months interest at 4 per cent 4.10.0

1360.10.0

Expense 10/. per cent on purchase) monthly to be paid to Mr Ridsdale) common on selling suppose) 7.0.0

1353.10.0

3 1/12 shares at £431 = 1329.0.0

9 per cent x months Dividend 27.15.0

1356.5.0

no Expense save loss of) 1 months interest) 4.10.0

1352.5.0

wrote to Messieurs P– [Parker] and A– [Adam] tonight to say Sell immediately – had just written and determined thus at 3 5/.. –

from 3 1/4 to 4 10/.. wrote 3 pages to Mrs Duffin –

‘Shibden hall – Tuesday 11 December 1838. my dear Mrs Duffin – It was very good of you to write to me so soon – I am sorry to say, you may be sure I want you to do me some favour, or my own idle pen would not greet you again thus early – But I give you trouble, I must set down a word or two that concern me more at heart than all I have to ask for – I had no idea that yourself and Mr Duffin had suffered so much, – the one from idleness, the other from musing and anxiety – I do hope with all my spirit that we may recover our strength entirely, the utmost strength one can expect, at 68, and that even at a perceived twenty years later, a life so valued as that of our excellent friend, may still eke out for some while longer – I owe much to Mr Duffin – I know, and think of, am grateful for it – and, come when it may, the hour that must deprive us all of him who has done so much for us and many, you will not perhaps have truer sympathy from others than from me – But give my love, and kind regards, and say for me all you think will be most agreeable – I am glad Isabella received my letter – tell her with my love, it would give me great pleasure to hear from her; but I neither think of nor expect it – I should be glad to see her here – but ….. now for domestic wants and troubles – may I ask you to send Thomas to the Register offices (unless he knows somebody likely to suit us) to inquire for a footman – and may I ask you still more? to see the man, and do for us as you would do for yourself (if you dare dare so much) assured of thus thus doing us the greatest service – the wages and clothes you would give – the requisites you would require – honest, sober, willing to stay at home, good temporaril ‘if such good luck may be within reach – the house is still so unfinished, that a stranger would suppose all yet to do – It is my miserable task for oak-wainscot that is in fault – but in an eight-centenary house like this, I like not plaster and paper – we have hardly them to stir in – Think of us without maid, (left our Frenchwoman in Paris) footman, good cook or good kitchen maid – Yet we have roast necks of mutton, and cutlets, and the like, and keep body and soul together by dint of a certain good fellowship between the latter not dependent upon dainty eating – I am glad how Eliza Raine is so well – I have brought my papers from Paris, but have not had time to look into them – But for you, I do not think I should give myself one moments trouble on the subject of the eventual disposition of her property – I may not survive her – I cannot fancy Mrs Anne looking too old to have at least some reminder of prettiness! – I remember her only as she used to be – I wish I could do this kindness to all the world – Love to Mr Duffin and the Norcliffes, etc Ever affectionately yours AL– Anne Lister Miss Walker’s kind regards’ –

had just written so far at 4 35/.. – then wrote ‘Messieurs P– Parker and A– Adam solicitors H–x [Halifax]’ Shibden hall – Tuesday evening 11 x December 1838 –

‘Sir – I think you had best sell the navigation stock immediately – I am, Sir, etc etc etc A Lister’ –

A– [Ann] returned about 4 3/4 and staid with me a few minutes – then went downstairs and gave the working drawing of the Tower Chimney piece – out in the farm yard a few minutes with John – A– [Ann] sent for me – she wrote to Mrs William Henry Rawson to say Mrs Ann Walker much better and would be glad to see her any time –

dinner at 6 1/4 – coffee between 8 and 9 – skimmed over the paper – came upstairs at 10 35/.. – fine day – thick fog in the afternoon from between 3 and 4 – Fahrenheit 40° in my study at 10 35/.. p.m. – with A– [Ann] till after 12 –

Samuel Booth poorly – John took to the post this evening my letter to ‘Mrs Duffin Petergate York’ and my note to P– [Parker] and A– [Adam]

reference number: SH:7/ML/E/22/0079, SH:7/ML/E/22/0080

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On Carriages and Gigs of Gentleman Jack and Anne Lister's Diaries

I started reading about gigs because I wanted to find out which gig Anne used when she travelled to the Lake District in 1824. This nonchalant question I've asked myself led me into a week long reading and transcribing pages from the diary that talk about Anne in York in autumn of 1821 buying that gig. (My wife did this generously for me, thank you). After I did find this out, I've asked myself what do we know so far about the other means of transport in Anne's time. Travelling was such an important part of Anne's life, and not just travelling abroad or long-distance travelling, but her often excursions to York by Highflyer or going to Langton by coach or in someone's carriage or taking a ride in the gig to Halifax or when she is in Langton with Tib. In one of the ALBW interviews we heard about how they filmed the scene with the Highflyer arriving to Halifax, or how Lister chaise was filmed in the air when being taken off the ship when reaching Copenhagen. But the topic of carriages and gigs certainly deserves more attention. The number of different models and types of carriages and gigs that are shown in the show is just amazing. Thank you Dorjana Širola for all the transcriptions. Thank you wikipedia and many websites for data and information. Thank you BBC for snapshots from the show.

Stagecoach

A stagecoach was a heavy and spacious horse-drawn carriage on 4 wheels pulled by 4 horses or mules. It could carry up to 20 passengers, some inside, some on the top of the carriage. Coachman was in charge of driving the coach or a carriage, having the control of the horses from an independent seat. He would usually be accompanied by a footman whose concern would be the passengers and transported goods. This was a public service coach meaning passengers would pay for the transport as well as for transport of their packages or letters. There was a net of posting stations scattered around the country where tired horses would be exchanged for fresh ones.

This one at the beginning of episode 1 must be the Highflyer, a type of stagecoach, that connected Halifax with other towns.

Coaching inn

When people travelled in their own carriages or gigs, they would be accomodated in coaching inns. Coaching inns provided stables and food for horses but also accomodation for travellers for the night. Those that survived to today simply became regular inns or pubs, of course without stables provided (but it's fun tracking down the old buildings and finding remains of prior structures). Read here just about how much traffic jams involving this type of transport were regular back in the day: http://www.wickedwilliam.com/principal-departure-coaching-inns-1819/ 

Cary’s New Itinerary

Travellers who travelled on their own were equipped with useful reference books on the road telling them where exactly they could find coaching inns and posting stations. The reference work of the time was Cary's New Itinerary, first published in 1798, on all the roads in England and distances between towns, and contained the “list of all Inns that supply post Horses and Carriages”. Anne used this while touring the Lake District in 1824. 

photo credits: lakesguides.co.uk

The Lister chaise

Listers owned the Lister chaise, built in 1725, one of the oldest preserved carriages in the world. You can see it in the stables of Shibden Hall, if you already haven't. We see it in episode 1.

Interestingly enough this carriage doesn't fit the description of a chaise at all which is a 2 wheel light carriage for 1 person, with a folding hood or a calash top. Instead it better fits to a description of a post chaise: it had a closed body on four wheels, sat two to four persons, and was drawn by two or four horses. A postilion would ride on one of the horses that pull the carriage. It seems to me that post-chaise became the term to mean public travelling carriages that would change horses at post-stations, and that's why Lister chaise is a chaise, and not a post-chaise.

The real Lister chaise

The Lister chaise looks a bit different than this one shown in the show. "The green and gold appears to be the original colours, although at some point it was painted grey, before being restored and returned to its original colours in the 1950s" says Calderdale Council's brochure on Shibden Hall. The one in the show is simply rejuvenated, together with the colours but the model is the same. Here is the photo of the real Lister chaise. Credits Shibden Hall ...

Anne bought a gig!

In the autumn of 1821 Anne went to York to buy a gig from the famous York coachmakers Breary's. She bought a second-hand one, probably a model of Stanhope gig for £65.2.0 which in today's money is £3.738.72. https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/currency-converter/#currency-result

Tuesday 23 October 1821

…Mr. Duffin and I… went to Breary’s to look at the 2nd hand gig with a top to it – afterwards took Dr. Belcombe and Anne to see it, and I think I have determined to take it…

Friday 26 October 1821

…Ord[ere]d the gig at Breary’s – Handsome brass harness (evidently only used 3 or 4 times) and lamps to the gig, all together to £48…

Tuesday 30 October 1821

…Letter also from Isabella Norcliffe (Langton) – John Coates (the head-groom) strongly advises me not to have the yellow gig, but the green one, which will cost £15 more – at 2, went to Breary’s to /sic/ look at it again, and intend to follow John’s advice…

Wednesday 31 October 1821

…Eli Belcombe… went with me to Breary’s where I ordered the green gig, with lamps and harness and all complete six[t]y guineas…

Wednesday 19 December 1821

Had the new gig from Breary’s, and George and I drove from the Dr. Belcombe’s door at 11 ½ - the mare a little awkvard at 1st, and I had not driven an hundred yards before I ran against the wheel of a cart – however we came along very well afterwards – I drove the whole way, and we got here (Lowgrange) in 3 ¼ hours, 19 miles…

Monday 24 December 1821

…Mariana and I went out together at 2 – went to Breary’s – I ordered lamps to my gig, and paid him for the gig and all its appurtenances £65.2.0…

Transcription credits: Dorjana Širola

A gig is a light two-wheel cart for 2 people drawn by one horse. We know her gig was green, she bought lamps to be added on and it had a top that could be pulled out in case of rain. In this gig she travelled to the Lake District in 1824 with her aunt. Caradoc, her horse, pulled the gig and George Playforth rode on a hack-horse. As a breed Hack-horse was a type of horse that could have been used for riding but also pulling carriages or gigs. Since there is no gig in the stables of Shibden Hall, I consider Anne's gig to be lost.

photo credits: CMA Archives

http://users.vermontel.net/~greenall/Rabers/Stanhope_Gig_R100.html

Anne’s gig was Stanhope gig !!

This is a photo of Stanhope gig, the exact model I think Anne bought. Notice the top that can be pulled in or out in the case of rain, also the visible space for luggage under the seat.

Just like carriages, gigs were considered to be status statements and subject to changing fashions. As well as there was a high number of different types of carriages available, the same applied to gigs.

The Stanhope was a lightweight gig, similar to a phaeton. It had a high seat with a closed back and plenty of storage room for luggage underneath it. The Stanhope gig was a very popular design, first built in 1815 by Tilbury, a London coachbuilder, for the Hon Fitzroy Stanhope.

Photo credits and more photos here : https://www.thecarriagefoundation.org.uk/item/stanhope-gig

The Dennett gig

While she was buying the gig Anne was considering these other types of gigs, which were popular at the time.

The Dennett was also a two-wheeled gig driven by a single horse. It was enclosed at the rear and had room for luggage. Differences between the types of gigs consisted mostly in the number and arrangement of springs applied, and the additional space and equipment provided.

photo credits and more photos here : https://www.carriagelink.com/carriages?id=781528

The Tillbury gig

The Tillbury was a lightweight, two-wheeled, spindled-back seat gig, with no boot and no top. It was designed for short-distance rides around the town.

In Anne's own experience it's really difficult to understand all these types of gigs:  “ ... surely the man at Leeds did not understand the difference between this [Tillbury] and a Dennet – there is a difference in the springs, the former having a cross spring, or more springs in some way or other the (lancer shafts) are more bent at the ends, and the box put under the seat is smaller than in a Dennet … ” (Transcription by Dorjana Širola)

Photo credits : Joseolgon

A Phaeton

A Phaeton is a sporty open carriage, with a minimal body and typically with four extravagantly large wheels. It’s very lightly sprung and has no sidepieces in front of the seats. With open seating, it was considered fast and dangerous. Estate owners would gallop in them showing off. Phaetons can have a folded top as you can see here. If you want to know more: https://www.regencyhistory.net/2019/07/curricles-gigs-and-phaetons-in-regency.html

photo credits: By Museo del Bicentenario - Museo Casa Rosada

Rawson’s gig is a phaeton!

The gig from episode 1 that caused little Henry Hardcastle to lose his leg is actually a phaeton. Open, very fast and dangerous, with minimal space for anything else but the driver.

Mr Priestley’s carriage

Another carriage from the show is Priestley's carriage in which Ann Walker drives away from Shibden Hall after visiting with the Priestleys at the end of episode 1. It's also shown when Mr Ainsworth is leaving from the Priestleys in episode 5.

Mrs Lawton’s carriage

There are many other carriages and gigs in the show. Like this one, that brings Mariana Lawton to Shibden Hall in episode 1. Carriage or a coach is a closed 4-wheeled vehicle pulled by 2-4 horses. Horses are controlled by a coachman who sits in a seat up front raised up high for a good view. For private carriages groom would usually do the duties of the coachman. A coach might have a built-in compartment called a boot, used originally as a seat for the coachman and later for storage. A luggage case for the top of a coach was called an imperial; the top, roof or second-story compartment of a coach was also known as an imperial.

Miss Walker’s carriage

This is Miss Walker's carriage which we see a couple of times through the show. This is the  carriage in which they went to York and back in episode 4 and the carriage which goes all the way to Scotland to take Ann back with James and the Priestleys.

Mrs Stansfield Rawson’s carriage

The carriage in which Mrs Stansfield Rawson and Miss Delia Rawson visit Ann Walker at the beginning of episode 3.

Mr Rawson’s Landau

The type of carriage Christopher Rawson uses to get to work is called Landau. Landau is a type of a four-wheeled carriage with the folding top divided into two sections, front and rear, latched at the center. Both of the sides can be pulled down exposing the passengers to the fine weather. It was designed for transport through towns, enabling passengers clothes to be seen from outside. It was to become a matter of status and luxury to own one of these. Today in some cities Lord Mayors still use them in ceremonial occasions.

Landau with the top down!

Another photo of Landau with dropped top on both sides.

Landaulette

And then we had recently in Brian Moseley's transcriptions: 

“Friday 14 April 1820 Down stairs at 10-1/4 - Mariana and I, went up to Whitewindows to see Mr George Priestley’s carriage horse, (only one as yet bought) and his new dark blue landaulette built by Windus, a great city builder in town [pret?] between 4 and £500, and which, with the Priestley and Lea arms, quartered, and those of Kirkman in an escutcheon of pret[ence?] done au large on each pannel, is a city-like looking concern.”

A landaulet or landaulette carriage is a cut-down (coupé) version of a landau horse-drawn carriage. The landaulette retains the rear half of the landau's two-part folding top.

Photo credits: Piotrus

Fly

Again somewhere I read about another type of transport Anne used (sorry, can't remember where I read it!). Fly was a light horse-drawn public vehicle or a delivery wagon intended to move quickly and reach its destination in a hurry. Really interesting article here: https://brightonmuseums.org.uk/discover/2013/01/17/the-brighton-man-fly/

Lady Stuart’s carriage

The carriage which Anne uses when travelling between Richmond and London when going for Vere's wedding in episode 2.

Mr Sutherland’s carriage

Another travelling carriage, the one that belonged to the Sutherlands in ep 7.

Anne’s yellow carriage

Anne had a carriage as well, which she ocassionally used for her travels. In the show we can see it in episodes 7 when she collects it from the Norcliffe's and stops at York to have a chat with dr Belcombe. Also when she is in London staying with Mariana. She goes to Copenhagen with Miss Ferrall in her carriage as well. Also they filmed Anne(s) in it going to the wedding.

Carriage on booaaaaard!!

Or when she's arriving to Copenhagen, and the carriage is just being taken off the vessel. :) This is an excellent website on Regency types of carriages with good photos if you want to see more: https://regency-explorer.net/a-carriage-enthusiasts-paradise/

Caleche

At the beginning of episode 8, aunt Anne reads Anne's letter sent from Germany: “At Kassel Miss Ferrall and I took a calache and went to visit the Palace d’Hercule … “ The calash was a light carriage with small wheels, a body in the form of a boat and a folding top. Inside, it had seats for four passengers, outside was a separate driver’s seat. The calesh was mainly used for pleasure driving in a park. The caleche was the forerunner of the barouche, a carriage fashionable in the 19th century.

Britzka

Just the other day I read this line in Anne Lister's diary : Sunday 5 October 1834 “saw my father and Marian off in their new Britska-phaeton” (Thank you gentlemanjackthelass on Insta) and, of course, had to google this type of carriage. Also wondering, are we going to see it in Season 2?

The Britzka is a type of opened horse-drawn carriage on 4 wheels pulled by 2 horses. And that’s about it with its similarities with the phaeton. Britzka was a long, spacious carriage with a folding top over the rear seat and a rear-facing front seat. It could be adapted with all manner of conveniences (beds, dressing tables and so on) for the traveller. 

Read here about this and many other types of carriages and gigs: https://www.geriwalton.com/vehicle-titles-origins-descriptions-1700s-1800s-a-c/

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Monday 11.. April 1836

7 40

12 ½

no kiss fine but dullish morning - A- and I breakfasted in our bedroom - had the things on the dressing table - I merely took my milk and about ½ my usual quantity of bread and not more than a mouthful of tea - Mr. Duncan came into the blue room about 9 ½ to put me on a sort of scar-cloak and a black silk hood over my pelisse and had which had a crape hatband round it - could not bear the latter - felted smoothed in it - it would soon give me a sick headache - said I could not wear it - went in to  A- she agreed that I seemed in no mourning at all – had Duncan up again – thought of black crape – A- had none that would do – kept on the scarf-clock - tried the hood again and at last agreed to wear it but let it fall back so as not to incommode me at all - I got into the mourning coach, chief mourner and alone, at 9 50 - waited at the door 3 ½ minutes which seemed very long - at the church gates in 51 ½ minutes at 10 ¾ - in 31 ½ minutes from the time the whole service was over and I was at home again in 50 minutes at 12 6 - the vicar and Mr. Jubb breakfasted here and followed me in a 2nd mourning coach then followed my father’s phaeton, my own carriage and A-‘s each with a pair of posters, and each postboy in a black cloak - the 8 bearers walked by the side of the hearse, the 4 mutes 2 before and 2 behind the hearse to the church and returned in the same sort of order alongside and before and after my mourning coach (the other mourning coach and hearse left us at the church gates) - the bearers and mutes came into the house on their return and had cold meat and cheese and beer and wine (red and wine) negus - there were many people assembled at our own approach gates as we went and several people all along the road - from the top of the bank the road seemed lined with people the procession went and returned all thro’ the town - the streets full of people to look at us - a crowd at the church gates and from there to the church - but only a few people admitted into the church - they took the coffin forward into the chancel - I followed close then went round to the head of it and stood the whole time near the altar-railing - I must have been very conspicuous but my  mind was engrossed and I saw only the coffin and bearers - Mr. Musgrave did the duty very well - Mr. Jubb stood at his side in the pew over the grave as he (the vicar) committed the body to the dust - the grave took up the whole breadth of the aisle - deep enough for 2 coffins above my father’s - let down steadily - plenty of room - coffin 2ft. 6in. wide, and 3in. to spare on each side in the neatly bricked round grave - looked down upon the coffin (could see it at the short distance off that I stood) till the service was over - in leaving the church (between the doors gates) a woman among the crowd said ‘there is not many tears’ - no! thought I, I have not shed one - nor did I shed one when my father was with me over my mother’s grave, or over my uncle’s - there may be grief without tears - thankful when all was over - came immediately to A- and sat quietly with her till Mr. Duncan and Greenwood had seen all off and went away themselves at 1 ¼ - just saw them for a moment - hoped Mr. D- had thanked the bearers and them all in the name of the family for their attention - poor G- seemed affected - then with A- while she had luncheon and (about ¼ hour) with Marian who seemed composed and satisfied - a minute or 2 with my aunt in bed (but pretty well) and then out with A- in the walk and in the garden from 2 to 3 ¾ - she did not complain of being tired - the day was fine and she seemed the better for being out - [Miss Jane] had come out just before we came in - asked her to take a turn or 2 with us on the flags and [set] her into the walk for better air and exercise - on coming in A- and I lay down on the sofa, and both of us slept near an hour - then (having sent little John Booth to the p.o.) letter from Mrs. Lyon York to say Miss Norcliffe had called Saturday about her lodgings - sorry they were engaged at present but begged me to let her know when I wanted them and she (Mrs. Lyon) would try to have them ready for me - considered a little while what to do - then wrote to Mrs. Lyon to say I should probably want them so short a time afraid it would not be worth her while to alter her present arrangements but to let me know if she could accommodate me next Saturday week the 24th inst. for a week - price finding plate and linen and cooking for me and price of lodgings without finding plate and linen - wanted 1 nice bedroom with dressing room or sitting room adjoining and another sitting room and bedrooms for man and maid etc room for them to sit in - wrote also to ask Mr. Jonathan Grey if he would be a home between 10 and 11 next Saturday morning - should like to see him there at the George Inn - to let me know by return of post if possible - put into the bag my letter to ‘Messrs. Gray and son solicitors York post paid’ and to ‘Mrs. Lyons 14 Blake street York’ - dinner at 6 20 - coffee - A- did her French - went to my aunt at 9 for ½ hour - then till 10 ¾ wrote the whole of today -A- latterly sleeping by me on the sofa - found my cousin gently come after my return from the funeral I think A- rather better on the whole but her mind or spirits are subject to sad lowness tho’ she has rather more lengthened gleams of cheerfulness today Messrs. Musgrave and Jubb breakfasted in the little parlour (my father’s parlour) the bearers in the hall - Mr. Duncan in the north parlour, the mutes in the upper kitchen, and the postboys in the saddle room - Marian gave out 6 bottles of port and 3 of white wine for negus - 2 pieces of roast beef 14 or 15 lbs. each and 9 or 10 lbs. piece of ham and ½ a cheese - very fine day F39° at 10 55 pm - had to prepare for cousin which made late then heard an odd noise downstairs so unlike our friends the rats I thought someone had got into the house - charged the small pistols which not being able to find powder or ball in its place took me 20 minutes - had to open a new canister of powder bought a year or 2 ago and had to run down with paper ball that was too small - my rest disturbed but found all was quite

[wasalwaysagreatpickle]

Thursday 3 April 1834

6 3/4

2 35/..

Same as last night 

Well aired comfortable enough bed – the room very small having used the large good room as my dressing room because the bed had not been slept in of 3 or 4 months – rain in the night, and a little this morning after getting up – Fahrenheit 52˚ at 7 40/.. – breakfast at 8 – out at 9 1/4 – took a boy as guide – walked by the house and home terrace, and across fields and down a steep, thick wood down by the little river (Rye) and walked along it (the valley narrow and beautifully wooded in the [blackfall] style) to the little village of Rivaulx where we came rather suddenly but finely on the large beautiful remain of the old abbey at 11 1/2 hour there – have gone, but choir and transepts remaining the court of the cloisters, and what is said to have been the refectory, kitchen, dormitory, and prior’s rooms – very fine remain – but Elgin cathedral finer if I remember it correctly – walked from the abbey up the steep carriage road to the far terrace from which you look down almost perpendicularly on the ruin there being a Grecian portico Lodge at each end of the terrace (as there is a Grecian temple at each end of the home terrace) – inquired for the fine cypress trees somebody (Mrs Henry Belcombe or Mrs Norcliffe) had told me were there – no such thing – 2 miles from this far lodge on the far terrace direct to Helmsley – Had left the old abbey at 11 1/2 and got back to the Inn at Helmsley at 1 1/4 – 

Miss Walker not seeming tired – paid all, and off from there at 1 1/2 with 4 horses to Coxwold – very steep down Wass-bank – alighted at 2 20/.. for 25 minutes at Coxwold church to see the monument to Belasyse (Fauconberg) family – very neat small church – at Byland abbey (in 1/4 hour from Coxwold) at 3 – fine ruin but nothing to compare with Rivaulx abbey – belongs to Mr Stapylton (martin of myton) who let some part fall in the other day from taking away some of its stone – 5 or 6 minutes there and then walked to the little Inn in the small village of Wass where the horses were gone to bait – Miss Walker lay down there being a bed in the room but did not feel particularly tired – Wass belongs to Mr (Martin) Stapleton – he is always in want of the rent the moment it is due – has nothing in Byland but the abbey – the people at the Inn have 14 acres of land (good) all grass but pay £56 per annum besides £3 a year title and 3 guineas for the licence, and all the taxes, that the place stands them to £80 per annum – 20 minutes there and off at 3 40/.. – 

Drove through the village of Ampleforth, and alighted at the Roman Catholic college about near a mile beyond at 4 8/.. – 14 monks Benedictine, and 40 boys students form the college – 1 of the biggest boys, who would be called a philosopher, would cost, everything included (excluding dancing and perhaps music) £50 a year – two of the monks, very civil, shewed us all over the house – good, airy, neat-kept rooms above stairs and below and everything very nice – nice garden – beautiful situation and view from the house – about an hour there and off at 5 5/.. – 

Through Hovingham, and not far from there passed at 6 5/.. Slingsby castle not very ancient b[u]t fine look[in]g ruin – rather houselike as to large Elizabethan windows – alighted at Langton at 7 25/.. – Mrs Norcliffe thought us late – Norcliffe there and Charlotte, both going to York tomorrow – Isabella Norcliffe at Croft – dressed – 

Went to Charlotte for a moment. What did I bring Miss Walker for, they said she was crazy and she charlotte believed it I merely said no if I had thought her so should not have taken her there –

Dressed – tea about 8 3/4 – Norcliffe went just before Miss Walker went to her room at 10 35/.. Mrs Norcliffe stayed an hour after and then she and Charlotte Norcliffe and I went upstairs, and Charlotte Norcliffe stayed talking to me in my dressing room (that of the white room) from 11 35/.. till 1 5/.. 

Thanked her very much for what she had said tho she seemed ashamed of it explained and said I thought of settling with Miss Walker. Charlotte Norcliffe thought I had better not determine too soon but take time to let it amalgamate gradually I said it had already been amalgamating the last eighteen months and and I thought that long enough and I thought I had made up my mind but begged Charlotte not to name it nobody was so much in my confidence as she she thanked me said she had no idea I knew Miss Walker so intimately or would not have said what she did she and Mrs Norcliffe had had a good deal of conversation about her before coming upstairs they said she ought to visit and I know not what which I combatted and said if I could not manage York society comfortably for her I could ask Lady Stuart de Rothesay who I was sure would be all kindness this seemed a surprise upon them Mrs Norcliffe said I should make Miss Walker unhappy by so taking her out of her own line but they soon began to see I was not to be talked out of it Charlotte said she understood Miss Walker had fifteen hundred a year yes said I calmly she has – 

Found Miss Walker asleep, but she roused up and we had a long talk – 

Told her all I very well could 

very fine day –

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[wolfy58]

1827 May Friday 11

6 3/4

11 35/60

twentyfive minutes on the pot without doing anything - Did not sleep well – at my desk at 8 – wrote the lines of yesterday – From 8 1/2 to 8 40/60 writing to Mary – then so suddenly bilious and giddy obliged to lie down on my sofa – Madame Sené came in about 10 minutes – had her in, but she saw how bilious I was and merely staid to ask my aunt and myself to dine with them to meet Mrs. and Miss Barlow next Sunday week – said my aunt had not been to well these last few days – I feared her legs were now dropsical and really could not answer for her – but would let them know – just mentioned expecting a friend in autumn – could the Senés let us have 1 of their bedrooms – saw this could not be – Monsieur Sené constantly coming over – said I should not think of it – should move my book cases, and have a little (lit) de sangle in the recess – dozed till near 10 then skimmed over the paper – Miss Lynn died at Tours on the 4th instante and in about an hour wrote the letter 1/4 p. (page) 2, and p. (page) 3 of my letter begun Tuesday 1 May – mentioned (quoted) what Isabella Norcliffe said about coming – and that I should say we should be glad to see her – said Miss Maclean’s coming to France was uncertain – from what my aunt now said, the swellig of her legs seemed to be already decidedly dropsical – At present not improbable I should be with Mary next year – what she said about the buying the living of Lawton all very well but she must remember that a person holding a living ad interim could not be compelled to give it up or pay damages the whole transaction being according to a very late decision, simoniacal – said I was better in the country – It could not be Paris that disagéed with me – it was the anxiety to which I returned – the bad account of her had given me ‘considerable pain’ – a better account would do me moregood than anything – her illness perpetually present to me – had been obliged to lie down, till my time was almost expanded – but was rather better on closing my letter sent it off at 11 40/60 to ‘Mrs. Lawton Lawton hall, Lawton Cheshire, Angleterre (port payé)’ – went to to give my aunt the paper and tell her of Miss Lynn’s death – then wrote the last 17 lines, and breakfast from 12 to 12 40/60 – still very bilious – settled the accounts of yesterday – wrote 2/3 p. (page) to Mrs. Lynn – then between 1 and 2 lay down again on my sofa – slept – my aunt awoke me at 3 to ask if we should dine at 5 – yes! then slept again till 4 – had just got up when Mrs. Barlow came to me at 4 10/60 with some ribbonds for me to choose one for my aunt – from 4 20/60 to 4 50/60 finished dressing Mrs. Barlow came to me at 4 3/4 – dinner at 5 10/60 – Left the dining room at 6 40/60 – went to Mrs. Barlow – at 6 50/60 – we walked beyond the barrière de l’Etoile to the left to the Passy barrière – left Mrs. Barlow at her own door, and got home at 8 3/4 – settled with George for butter got yesterday – paid him this morning for the rest of what was got yesterday – prepared my bed room – wrote the last 3 lines – went into the drawing room to my aunt at 9 10/60 – Jane in bed all the day with a bad cold – Looking over Mrs. Starke’s traveller’s guide – came to my room at 10 1/4 – ate a bunch of raisins –

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[misslisterkeepsajournal]

1825 Saturday 24 December

9 1/2 1 1/2 Had one tolerable kiss of Tib last night but she is very unwieldy was soon exhausted and is worn out for these matters

Went down to breakfast at 11 - only a minute or two with Mrs Milne Charlotte came - Mrs. M- [Milne] drove CN- [Charlotte Norcliffe] and I drove IN- [Isabella Norcliffe] and we all went to Kirkham abbey, lately purchased by a Mr. Clarkson, who is excavating it, and has traced the ground plan of the church, and found they say some curiosities, but he was not at home, that these we could not see - It is a fine old ruin, prettily situated near the Derwent - returned by Westow - just 1/2 hour at the abbey, and got home at 3 -

Dinner a little past 5 - In the evening Mrs. M- [Milne] and I against Mrs. N- [Norcliffe] and CN- [Charlotte Norcliffe] won a rubber at Cassino - Mrs. M- [Milne] and I then played several games (2d. [pence] a game) at Écarté - I left off losing one game - all the while paying attention to Mrs Milne she saw and understood it well enough tho I dont fancy anyone else did she was not displeased

On going to bed went into her room but Charlotte would not leave us together - went up to bed at 11 3/4 - Very fine day - E.O.. -  

Reference: SH:7/ML/E/9/0043

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[skgway]

1823 Sep., Mon. 8

7 5/60 12 10/60

From 8 to 9, wrote all but the 1st 3 lines of yesterday – Poor Sam! My heart is heavy – But this is weakness – It shall be shaken off – I shall like to see Mr. Slyfield – My mind shall rebrace itself –

Did not get downstairs to breakfast till 9 20/60 – Mr. D– [Duffin] went out shooting – At 10 1/2 Miss D– [Duffin] and I set out walking along the fields to Middlethorpe – Sauntered back along the road and got home at 12 – She is out of spirits. Cannot flirt at all and a dullish tete-a-tete to me. Poor soul, I pity her. She owned she felt under restraint here, away from her friends and home, and lived a great deal upon her own thoughts. I durst not try the sentimentals. § Miss M[ilne] has cautioned me not to be too intimate with her –

Beat about the bush about her engagement to Mr. Johnson and her not telling her uncle about it. Questioned whether it was from want of confidence in him. Thought it a bad plan. She said he was of a reserved disposition, his manner gave her no encouragement to tell him. He did not seem interested. Besides, there was no occasion to tell him. It was a thing that might never be and she would tell him when it was necessary, when she could say she had made up her mind to do it. For it was foolish to ask advice when you were resolved not to take it. She said her being her uncles favourite was mere accident and he cared not for her when she was away. But he was so good hearted he could not help being kind to anyone who was with him, absence weakened all ties.

She had been prejudiced against Miss Marsh but she had won her to her by kindness. If she did not like a person she could not seem to do so, let what would be the consequence. She was angry at the engagement. Being told she could trace it very well. Mr. Lawton had been written to and desired not to name it. I exculpated her for telling me and the Belcombes before she knew it was such a secret. I once or twice rather hinted towards a prudential line of conduct on Miss D[uffin]’s part to Mr. D[uffin] and Miss M[arsh], but found this would be unsafe. She is too unworldly, too good for anything of this kind.

She said she believed her uncle would marry again as soon as he had an opportunity. I said there would be no children and would have insinuated make friends of the mammon of unrighteousness, but it was unsafe. Poor soul. I pity her and Mac is too surly a fellow in his manners not to repulse so gentle, affectionate hearted, yet high spirited girl as Miss D[uffin]. I admire her feelings, tho there is a something in her own manners rather abrupt seeming to me at times. She is not calculated to watch and profit by the wiles of the world –

Mrs. Anne and Miss Gage called – At 12 1/2 Miss D– [Duffin] left me at Jameson’s to call for Miss M– [Marsh] there, and Miss M– [Marsh] and I went to the Belcombes' – I walked about with Mrs. Milne and Charlotte N– [Norcliffe] shopping – Met Miss M– [Marsh] at Mrs. Stainforth’s, and got home at 3 35/60 –

In the evening at 7, we all, except Mrs. D– [Duffin], went to drink tea with Mrs. Anne and Miss Gage – They, Miss M– [Marsh] and Mr. D– [Duffin] and I played whist – I played 6 rubbers (shilling points) and came away winning 2 /. [shillings] got home at 10 50/60 and came up stairs immediately –

Very fine day – Short letter from I[sabella] N[orcliffe] (Langton) merely to say she got well home on Saturday –

[sideways in margin] § vide line 3 from the top of page 123

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[wrotetheaboveoftoday]

1833 Fri. 22 March

7 25/.. 11 35/.. + L L soft morning Fahrenheit 46 1/4º at 7 25/.. and 39 1/2º at 8 1/4 outside my window - breakfast with my father at 8 3/4 in 35 minutes - till 10 1/4 settling my account with Cordingley - then with my aunt till 11 - then 1/2 hour writing out last 3 letters in business letter book volume 2 - from 11 35/.. to 12 3/4 (interrupted 10 minutes speaking to James Jowitt of High Sunderland) wrote 3 pp. [pages] and ends to Mrs. Norcliffe - chit chat - had she not been so good as ask me to write soon, should have waited a little longer to fix, or, at least, propose the day for being with her at Langton - but on this subject will write again - hope to be at Langton before the end of next month - anxious to hear how Mrs. Best - hear from M- [Mariana] she is out of danger - have thought of her and Mrs. N- [Norcliffe] perpetually

'I really feel for you, my dear Mrs. Norcliffe, very much, and shall not be quite comfortable without hearing of or from you, in the course of a few days - I need not say, that my anxiety, and gratitude, and regard, towards you, and yours, for all the never failing kindness I have received, are too deeply rooted to be easily torn up - From the moment I saw my being here must be prolonged, I determined, if possible, to see you again, and if you are not tired of me, I shall not limit my stay to a few days' -

Inquires after them all - mention M- [Mariana] having had Mrs. Chaloner for a fortnight and the Sympsons being at Leamington - surely IN- [Isabella Norcliffe] will be at home by the end of next month - if not, always so happy at Croft, it would be too selfish in me to wish to hurry her back - dare not read MacGregor's Canada for fear of longing to go there - 'tho' rather cured by various concerns at home, have not yet forgot my old propensity for wandering - having given up Italy for the present - the hot months there would not do - shall hope to profit by Norcliffe's experience - shall decide nothing till in Paris

- from 12 3/4 to 3 3/4 wrote 1 3/4 page to Breadalbane MacL- [MacLean] and then, wanting to find when I wrote and what I wrote last, unable to find it, took up my journal book and made out index from the beginning of this volume 12 January up to 25th ultimo inclusive the day before sending, and the very day of writing last letter to her and made out letter index from 13 January up to day inclusive - then 10 minutes by the upper kitchen fire to warm myself (winterly day - flying showers of small snow or light hail or rain) and out at 4 1/2 having left my letter to Breadalbane MacL- [MacLean] thinking, after seeing what I wrote so lately, it useless to put to the expense of postage just now for mere thanks of which she is assured especially having written to their agent to acknowledge the receipt of the plants -

Some time with John just finishing dressing up the hedge all along the top of trough of Bolland wood - then stood a long while with Pickels having cut more than 1/2 way along the far Bairstow my new road - (settled with my aunt and Marian today to call it Whiskam road) then took a turn or 2 to the end of my walk (a heavyish snow shower for some minutes while there that whitened all around) and came in at 6 3/4 - dinner at 7 5/.. - afterwards reading the article on minerals in Sir Richard Phillip's million of facts - a little nap and went into the other room at 9 3/4 - Letter from Hammersleys to say they had written to order the payment of £5 to Mrs. Tiler -

Very kind letter 3 pp. [pages] from Breadalbane Maclean (Coll house) telling me all about the girls and Mr. Robertsons brain fever and consequent necessity of being now under restraint - wonders if the Retreat near York would be advisable for him - shall offer to make inquiries - says she hears from Mrs. Cameron that V- [Vere] is to be confined in June - encloses letter from her Russian friend (vide 13. 54.) with information for my journey to Saint Petersburg and saying he had written me letters and sent them under cover to Lord Goderich - but for fear of some mistake in their being forwarded to me begged me to write and ask Lady Stuart to inquire about them for me - read over the courier - came upstairs at 10 35/.. - winterly snow-showery day - rain, and sleet, and small snow, and between 6 and 7 regular snow shower large flakes - Fahrenheit 45º now at 10 3/4 -

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