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marleneoftheopera · 5 months
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Actresses playing Christine in both POTO and LND:
Sierra Boggess: Vegas 2006-07, London's 25th Anniversary, Broadway 2013, 2014 (POTO), London 2010-11 (LND)
Celia Graham: London 2002-03, 2005-07 (POTO), London 2010-11 (LND)
Mira Ormala: Oslo 2018 (POTO), London 2011 (LND)
Anna O'Byrne: World Tour 2009, London 2012-13 (POTO), Australia 2011 (LND)
Claire Lyon: World Tour 2012-15, 2019-20 (POTO), Australia 2011 (LND)
Meghan Picerno: World Tour 2019, Broadway 2019-23 (POTO), US Tour 2017-18 (LND)
Celinde Schoenmaker: London 2015-17, Greece 2020 (POTO), London Concert 2023 (LND)
Manon Taris: Paris 2016 (POTO, cancelled), World Tour 2023-24 (LND)
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operafantomet · 1 year
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do you know why sierra never worked with JOJ she played christine opposite to hugh and performed with michael ball why not with him as well. sorry, my question mark button is not wrking
Sierra Boggess was never (original) Christine Daaé in West End, and John Owen-Jones was never the Phantom on Broadway, I assume that is the main reason.
I know some of you are ready to jump on the keyboard "BUT SHE WAS IN WEST END!". Well, she did a special staged concert version at the Royal Albert Hall, which is not West End. And she originated the Christine role in the sequel "Love Never Dies" in West End, but that's not original Christine. In both cases she played opposite Ramin Karimloo, as JOJ was principal Phantom in the original POTO production at the time.
That said... they have did briefly worked together. JOJ and Sierra was the couple featured at the Olivier Awards in London in 2011. JOJ was principal Phantom in the original POTO and represented that production, but he was joined by Sierra Boggess as Christine. She wore her "Love Never Dies" dressing gown and wig, but styled to mimick the POTO look.
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JOJ also appeared at the encore in Royal Albert Hall, along with Anthony Warlow, Ramin Karimloo, Colm Wilkinson and Peter Jöback.
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JOJ furthermore appeared at the encore for the 25th anniversary on Broadway, with Sierra Boggess, Hugh Panaro, Ramin Karimloo and Peter Jöback.
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So they have performed Phantom stuff together, just not a full show as the Phantom and Christine.
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spiderphantom1993 · 8 months
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Love Never Dies In Concert - London - 22nd August 2023 Matinee
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sewer-daddy-erik · 5 months
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Now that I’ve seen Liam Tamne play a formidable eccentric antihero (Ramses II, Prince of Egypt), I am dying for him to make the Raoul->Erik upgrade. It’s been about ten years since his West End Phantom days, so it’s about time!
(His voice-throwing skills are also too good not to use for this sort of thing)
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jennyfair7 · 1 year
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i just wanna tell u that youre strong for being an erikquin shipper god bless u for this. its one of those ships that are so sick and crack it actually sounds cool. good for u man
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THANK YOU 🙏🙏🙏
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One phan's crack is another phan's OTP and I will die on the Erik/Mannequin hill, so I appreciate your support 😆 I'm also gonna use this as an opportunity to plug my Erik/Mannequin phic:
Moment of Weakness
Moment of Madness
Minific - Fluffy
Minific - Things you said at the kitchen table
Minific - After she went home
Minific - Tea party
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greatdinosaursalad · 1 year
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I can deal with people liking and enjoying Love Never Dies but you wanna know where I draw the line?
Phantom of the Opera 2004 movie stans
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likethesnow8 · 1 year
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pt2. 🔍
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jmoriartyfandeath13 · 2 months
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Phantom stuff. And LND.
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nipuni · 7 months
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We went to see Phantom Madrid last weekend!! ❤️ Geronimo Rauch was amazing!! I'm going to write my thoughts on the whole performance under a cut for those interested 😊
I am going to be comparing it to the London version for reference since it's the only one I've seen live. I think my first impression was that It was better than I expected it to be! I read opinions about the Trieste production and I was a little worried but I found that I enjoyed a lot of the things I've seen being criticized.
The stage spinning around was awesome and added so much depth to scenes and made transitions very smooth. The backdrops were very nicely done!
As for costumes I think they were pretty good with the exception of Aminta's dress and the Masquerade costumes being kind of underwhelming.
The singing was good overall, although the translated lyrics are weird sometimes. The main songs translate well but some others become very confusing in Spanish, some wording seems forced and some notes are slightly altered to fit the phrases. Raoul is very calm and soft, maybe a little too much at times, Christine is very neutral and simple. Geronimo was amazing tho no notes!
Now the acting! I have opinions 😫 This show was very Christine and Raoul centric to such an extent that it flattened the plot for me 😬 Christine seems scared and disgusted from start to finish so there is no conflict in her character. She is never torn, she recoils from the phantom's touch during Music of the Night, and during Final Lair she sings the "pitiful creature of darkness" lines looking at Raoul the whole time backing away towards the phantom and steeling herself and only turns reluctantly at the last second to kiss Erik. She comes back to return his ring and just leaves it on the organ stool as soon as he turns around because she's scared to get close to him, when he sings "I love you" she shakes her head at him 🥹 like girl please give us something!!
Geronimo's phantom is a delight tho!! He whimpers, crawls, cries, screams, pants, it's great. He's acting his butt off and is the highlight of the show for me.
A thing that I really liked was in the end when the mob comes Erik is curled up in his bed crying and Madame Giry finds him there and tells him to hide under the covers and leads the mob away from him, I thought it was sweet and transitions into LND nicely.
OH also!! I really enjoyed the Phantom swinging on a rope across the stage during the ballet and Buquet's hanging, it's so good!! the flaming chandelier scene is also good!! in Final Lair they actually hang Raoul in the air which was very nice too! (and with his shirt still on) and even the angel wings and flying that I've seen people hating on was honestly so cool. It didn't look as goofy as I expected it to, it's very smooth and the lighting makes it scary, he casts thunder and flies!! the wings are not very visible since the scene is very dark. The light work was super good in general.
Masquerade and Don Juan were a bit of a let down, much simpler but not bad. I think my main issues were about the choices for Christine really 🤔 and I think some scenes needed more movement, especially the roof one (they couldn't move because they are sitting on a ledge)
The show in general feels a bit one note compared to the West End version but it was good!! I'm just nitpicky 😂 also I want Geronimo's autograph!! I love him 😭
Anyway if you want to see/hear more let me know on discord wink wonk 😁
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wheel-of-fish · 4 months
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Saturday, Jan. 6, 2024 • 9 p.m. EST: Love Never Dies Concert, London 2023 (Norm Lewis, Celinde Schoenmaker & Matthew Seadon-Young)
It's time! I honestly have no idea what to expect; I've mostly kept myself in the dark with this one.
Quick but important reminder to be respectful of others by keeping heavy critique/negativity out of the chat! I understand that LND is polarizing, but there are many fans who do enjoy it despite its flaws. Thanks!
As always, the stream will be on cy.tube and shy anons are welcome. For more info, please see the Saturday Streams FAQ! Link and password will be posted here at 8:45.
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justaphan · 1 year
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POTO Fics by Mertens
More than any other Phantom of the Opera fic writer, I find myself consuming Mertens’ works over and over for the pleasing writing style, the complex emotions, and the raw and realistic portrayals of Christines in particular. Mertens’ writing is how I also got into modern AUs! 
I’ve never done any rec list for this fandom so let’s start with my fav fics from @intothemertensverse! (Hi there! Thank you!) 
Gustave Daae’s Daughter: A disfigured man on the edges of society with a good heart, Erik has been Gustave Daae’s closest friend for years. When Gustave realizes his time is almost up after contracting an incurable disease, he leaves his two most prized possessions to his friend—his violin, and his daughter. In progress as of 01/09/2023. If you’re not reading this then honestly what do you actually do with all the hours of your life? Some big surprises in this one. Featuring Ayesha and also Angst with a capital A. 
A Love There Is No Cure For from Sonnet 86: A fic of epic proportions but it can be read independently of the larger verse it’s in. Major Leroux influences, and follows the SLOW BURNING journey of how Christine’s grumpy old insecure teacher became the happiest man alive (including all the very awkward sex). Mertens’ masterpiece. 
An Old Fashioned Love Song: After an incident results in Christine needing to fulfill community service, she volunteers at the local old folks home where a chance meeting with a resident will change both of their lives forever. Cranky 80-year-old disabled Erik? I love this little goblin so much. You will too.  
Saved From Solitude: Feeling anxious and unable to sleep in his own house, Erik spends the night in Christine’s dressing room to get some much needed rest. He’s certain Christine will never find out—as long as he wakes up on time. Erik may seem tall, dark, and imposing, but he’s actually the sweetest sleepy old man with a cane. I want to tuck him into bed myself. Bonus total BAMF Christine!
Scuffle in Box Five: The Ghost had requested that Box Five be kept empty, but on the night of Mlle Daae's first performance, Box Five is most certainly not empty. There is popcorn in this fic and it just makes it ten times funnier. 
And Ask Me To Open Up The Gate For You: Christine Daae has tried every trick in the book to achieve the clear complexion she so desires, and all without result—every trick, that is, except for one. She can’t do it on her own, but perhaps her beloved Maestro will be able to lend his assistance in the matter. In progress as of 01/09/2023. This one is so innovative and different! POTO London Christine Alternate Holly Anne Hull’s Instagram Story had a callout for long-term acne solutions, and turns out a few people told her to go get pregnant to achieve clear skin :D 
First Impressions: Erik takes Christine to his home and the cape flip goes awry. BLESS YOUR HEART ERIK!!!
Just Us Two: The day after the performance, Christine spends the day with her son, just like she promised. A beautiful, poignant continuation of Love Never Dies focused on mother and son. 
Like Everyone Else: Mr. Y has cracked the code of blending in to society. At least, he thinks he has. LND-inspired crack. Just hysterical. Honestly how could anyone argue against Erik moving to New York, it’s plot-powering gold! 
Mr. Y’s Christmas Surprise: Erik accidentally and inadvertently invents the ugly Christmas sweater. SEE COMMENTS ABOVE
Joyeuses Pâques (sans masque): Erik tries to celebrate Easter with his family on Coney Island—and what better way to celebrate than with a visit from the Easter Bunny? Guys just a reminder that Christine moved across the ocean to live with this guy, so.   
My Three Eriks: Erik doesn’t actually speak in the third person. OR “What do you mean James Gant and James Hume aren’t the same person” Shit gets too real in the lair, and it’s laugh out loud funny. 
The Nanny: College dropout Christine Dee lands what appears to be a dream job in taking care of a reclusive rich man’s seven year old boy. As she settles into her new life, however, she discovers a mysterious secret about her boss’s former wife that threatens to unravel everything. Modern AU. Definitely Gerik. Very relatable and insecure Christine. Very funny too. It’s a thrilling murder mystery and it’s very hard to stop reading once you start. 
Baby Shark: Erik is haunted by a certain song his neighbor is playing. Modern AU. I thought this was going to be a crack!fic but I was profoundly moved by it. Both Erik and Christine are a hot mess. A very refreshing take! 
Honolulu Sun: After two years of relative isolation during the pandemic, Christine is a little chattier than usual with a strange masked man in the grocery store. I’m more than a little bit obsessed with this one. Give me all the Gustave Sr./Erik bonding!!!
Boulevard of Broken Dreams: Wealthy Opera Populaire patron Raoul de Chagny has been kidnapped and the Opera managers have been receiving threatening letters regarding emerging star Christine Daaé. Private Investigators Erik and Antoinette have been called in to get to the bottom of what's going on, which means they'll have to be keeping a close eye on the safety of the young soprano. It really is a shame, then, that Erik seems to hate Christine who in turn seems horrified of Erik - but things aren't always what they seem. Film Noir AU. Big sweeping fic. Angles that haven’t been explored before. And an Erik that deserves to be seen!  
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marleneoftheopera · 8 months
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Courtney Stapleton as Meg Giry in the 2023 LND concert in London.
Photos from here, here, and here.
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operafantomet · 9 months
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...did you ever notice that...
They used basically the same concept for the 2004 movie cover, the 2006 Phantom Las Vegas visuals, the 2007 West End ads, and the 2010 West End Love Never Dies artwork?
Gerard Butler and Emmy Rossum, 2004 movie
Probably models? Las Vegas 2006
Earl Carpenter and Leila Benn Harris, West End 2007
Ramin Karimloo and what was said to be Sierra Boggess, but if so they have photoshopped her to death... LND 2010
Version 3 was used in bus stops all over London, with the Phantom looking directly into the camera, with the Paris skyline in the background, and the tagline "Surrender to the Music of the Night", but I never found a good one without lot of reflections showing it in use... If anyone has that one, I'd be interested!
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I'm curious, do ppl hate Love Never Dies because they think Eristine is problematic and it's made canon in it, or is it due to something else? I havent watched it yet or anything but i like the vibes, lol
Heh... Love Never Dies has always been controversial at the very least? It came out at a time where Erik/Christine was still the most popular ship in the phandom - it still is, by the way. That didn't change despite a clear shift in fandom and ""problematic content"" around 2013, so a good 3 years after the musical came out. If anything, Raoul/Christine shippers have been a minority for most of the phandom's history, and both sides of the debate at some point more or less decided to agree to disagree (I mean, the homophobic slurs Raoul would get at times were starting to REALLY be in poor taste), except on the point that without the love triangle, there wouldn't be much of a story, and there are various ways of interpreting said love triangle. So, quite frankly, I don't understand why some people on either side are trying to restart discourse in the POTO fandom but I digress. And look, if you see people in the tags saying that Erik/Christine is problematic, they're probably new, and not really representative of the phandom at large. Anything having to do with Sierra Boggess is more controversial.
I really don't think the controversy stems from it making Erik and Christine bang and have a love child - I know there are some people who are against the idea of any kind of sequel, in fanfic form or otherwise, for a variety of reasons, but most of them were being responsible adults about it and didn't actively seek fanfic. As I mentioned before, a lot of folks were Erik/Christine shippers and thought that Christine was more into the Phantom than into Raoul, that's nothing new. But a lot of them also had issues with how LND dealt with it, for several reasons. It didn't come from an "anti" sentiment, it was very much them having issues with the material that was presented to them.
Raphael/phantoonsoftheopera (who is a long time fan of POTO) goes into more detail here and I think he sums up a lot of phans' thoughts back in 2010 when LND came out (whether they shipped the Phantom and Christine or not), and I think @musicalhell is another one who was also around at the time (feel free to pop in, and hope I'm not bothering you with the tag).
As for the rest, I wish I could defend ALW's choices here in the same way I'd defend Lana Wachowski for Matrix Resurrections - i.e. you're allowed to not like it but this is this creator's baby and they're allowed to do whatever they want with it, so let's all respect art for the sake of art here. But LND is very much a vanity project, as ALW has proven multiple times, that is mean-spirited to its core in various ways. For my fellow SW fans, it's the TROS to POTO'S TLJ. The cast and crew were treated in a really shitty way back in the original London production days, same with critics of the show, and there was even a case where a journalist and long time phan who provided a critical review of LND was demeaned in an article as some sort of sad housewife who was obsessed with POTO. Mind you, ALW has tried to make LND work FOR YEARS, with various productions and tours opening here and there, but it always underperforms. And mind you, the Eristine crowd is still hanging around, and POTO is doing extremely well whereever it goes to this day. If the Eristine content was good, the crowds would follow, "problématique" posts and tweets or not. They aren't there.
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cdaae · 6 months
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Why Am I Like This- Phantom Collector Edition
I’m a completionist and an obsessive so I need all the different versions of a thing so here’s a list of where I’m at right now. I wish I could say that I was anywhere near done but there’s always more phantom stuff to collect
Books
Gaston Leroux x51(This includes all 6 English translations, 8 different languages, and three levels of French)
Gaston Leroux signed by Broadway Cast
The Underground’s of the Phantom of the Opera
The Phantom of the Bathtub
Night of the Phantom
Embrace the Night
Lessons from the Phantom of the Opera
Song of a Maiden
Madrigal
Phantom
Unmasqued
Phantom of Manhattan
Ruinsong
Roseblood
Beyond the Masque
Chanson de L’Ange
Sing Me Forgotten
The Angel of the Opera
The Phoenix of the Opera
The Phantom’s Opera
The Phantom of Paris
The Phantom’s Apprentice
Where Dreams Descend
The Phantom Cat of the Opera
Phantom Pop Up Book
George Perry’s Complete Phantom of the Opera
Phantoms of the Opera
The Trap Door Maker
Phantom Graphic Novel x2
The Phantom Cooks
2004 Companion
Geronimo Stilton
Thea Stilton
My Phantom
Phantoms in the Night
Phantom of Pemberly
Phantom of the Auditorium
Behind the Phantom’s Mask
The Phantom Returns
Phantom erotica
Book cassette
Souvenir edition OLC
Emoji of the opera
Phantom 2020
Phantom Phantasia
Songbird
The Phantom’s Lullaby
Phantom of the Little Russian Theatre
Masked Love
Treasures of Egypt
Victory
Venetian Romance
Susannah’s Secret
The Man in the Shadows
Love in the Spotlight
Let the Dream Begin
A Phantom’s Promise
Destiny’s Curse
Phantom by David Bischoff
Mini Leroux
L’Opera de Paris
Paris National Opera
Palais Garnier
Peeping Duck Gang
Out of the Darness
L’Opera De Paris Coulisses etc secrets du Garnier
Claude Rains Book
Movies/CDs/Media
Lon Chaney
Claude Rains x2
Herbert Lom x2
Phantom of Hollywood
Schell
Robert Englund
Charles Dance
David Staller
Julian Sands
2004 x17 (English x2, French x3 Germanx2, Greek, Spanish, Italian, limited(English and German), deluxe, and Ultimate, Special, Collectors(English and French)
Angel of Music
25th Anniversary
Love Never Dies
A Monster in Paris
Phantom of the Grindhouse
Anthony Mann
Phantom of the Theatre
Unmasking the Masterpiece
Love on Safari
Faust
1987 Cartoon(dvd & VHS)
Mystery Legends Phantom Game x2
2004 digital press kit(English and French)
OLC (cassette & CD)
CDs x59
Phantom of the Paradise Record
OLC small record(wywsha&motn)
Long box cd
Long box 2004
2004 VHS
Movie/book set
Long box OLC cassettes
Karaoke cassettes
Highlight cassettes
Robert Englund VHS
For Your Consideration 2004
Book casettes
Stage Fright
Props/Signed/Similar
Love Never Dies audience gift notebook
1992 tour Auction book prop
Jerry Mitchell signed LND after party invite
Phantoms Note from BWay x2
Don Juan Music from BWay x1 1/2
Ticket to 25th Anniversary Party
Majestic Theatre Phantom Barricade Cover
Photo cards, signed x16
Signed LOBs x2
Robert Englund autograph
Laird Mackintosh autograph
BWay 29th anniversary cast gift beanie
KAV’s dressing gown shoes
Manager’s BWay newspaper prop x4
Cast board name placards x3(2 BWay one Vegas)
Reopening cookies x2
London 35th anniversary rose petals and card
Il Muto page boy stockings
OBC cast member costume gloves
Printed cast member email
Cast made calendars 2006 and 2007
Full cast signed poster with Hugh
Signed trading card
Signed Michael Crawford Face mask
Signed Crawford Article
Signed 35 Poster
Signed Mask
Scrap of Christine’s wedding dress
Scrap of phantoms suit
10th anniversary invite
Opera glasses cast gift
Magazines
24/7 Magazine featuring Crivello
NYC City Guide 2014 & 2016
TODAY featuring Vegas
What’s On Vegas
Time Out New York
German LND
Theater Week 1988
In Theater 1998
Casino Player Magazine
Fate Magazine
Broadway Spotlight
Other
Megstine notebook
Mugs x7
Cups x5
Water Bottle
Ornaments x5
Phantom harmonica
Red death figure
Lon Chaney figure
Phantom Nutcracker
Phantom and Christine Barbies
Tote bag x4
Phantom creamer tops, complete set
Postcards x6
LOBs x2
Magnet x5
Stickers x12
Phantom Cat sticker set
Chibi phantom sticker set
Angel patch
Greeting cards x2
Posters x5
Art print
Calendar
Ramin based doll
Phantom doll + Ayesha
Snerik
Pen
Mardi Gras coin
Felt Raoul and Erik
Francœur bean
Small hand painted canvas
25th Anniversary limited edition boxed set
Canada gift bag
Mexico phone card
Japanese train card x2
Trading card
Lon Chaney money
Lon Chaney stamp
Pencil
Phone case
Gift bag
Japanese posters x6
Herbert Lom ad stamp
Complete LND London draft script
Blanket
Operetta
34th Anniversary blank playbill sticker sheets
Goosebumps pen
Goosebumps magnet
Goosebumps stickers x9
Bendyfigs phantom
German postcard
Angel of Music coffee
Where Dreams Descend popcorn holder
Raoul and Christine art print
Large paper bag
1994 calendar
Ireland phone card
Movie screening invite
German something?
Frame
Vegas key card
Angel of music bear
Tea towels x2
Mask sticker
Blockbuster card
Phantom press invite
Mini 2004 scrapbook
Playing cards
Assorted Japanese 2004 film memorabilia(10 pieces)
2004 film poster and booklet
1999 ticket info
2023 newspaper clippings
Gingerbread ornament
Aussie keychain
Phantom/Christine blanket
2011 wall calendar
2012 wall calendar
2013 wall calendar
Angel ornament
Universal Erik doll
Sarah/Steve Ad
1993 calendar
2004 Mylar
1995 calendar
Italy confetti
Crawford ornament
Halloween figure
Matchbox
Soap?
Heart frame
Jewelry
Pins x11
Charm bracelet
Necklace x2
Key chains x14
Replica Ring
Hair bow x2
Think of Me hair clips
Jewelry pouch
Music Boxes
Square black jewelry music box
Il Muto
Limited Edition boat scene
Boat Scene
Phantom and Christine wedding
Porcelain signs x2
Limited edition mirror scene
Mirror scene
Mirror
Limited edition MotN
Red Death
Throne water globe
Music water globe
Phantom w/ stick water globe
Rooftop water globe
Russian egg(?)
Mirror scene water globe
Phantom w/ stick
Phantom in throne
Monkey music box
Limited edition Jack in the box
Boat scene water globe(broken globe)
Russian egg (?? Missing top)
Small music box(no music)
Universal Phantom and Christine
Phantom and Christine with Marni
Opera House
Phantom Automata
Madame Alexander Christine Doll
Broken Mirror
Erik and Christine porcelain figure
Music pedestal
Clothing
Socks
Glow in the dark boxers
Night shirt
Phantom BWay x2
Sydney Harbour shirt
Christine dressing gown VTC
Peacock dress
US tour grey shirt
Christmas Sweatshirt
Toronto shirt
Candy of the Opera
1988 mask shirt
Phantom of the Opry shirt
New York shirt
Mask sweatshirt
Ghost Red Death Shirt
35th anniversary shirt
Italy shirt
Programs/Playbills/ETC
Loose understudy slips x14
Ticket stubs x11
Newspaper clippings
Mini flyers x6
Flyers x40
Ken Hill souvenir program
2004 film souvenir program
ALW souvenir programs x49
BWAY playbills x63
Signed playbills x12
Tour playbills x20
London programs x18
YK phantom playbill
World tour playbill
Melbourne playbill
Robert Englund film souvenir program
Italy program
Sweden program
Music Books
ALW piano x3(easy, intermediate, expert)
2004 film
YK phantom
LND London
I can honestly say this may not even be everything because sometimes I forget to add new acquisitions to the list. If there’s anything on the list you wanna see pics of, I’m happy to share!
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jennyfair7 · 1 year
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operaghozt
That is an inanimate object and a whole ass man 😟😥
That is a whole ass fictional character and his equally fictional love doll 🤷‍♀️
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