More pics I found on accident. The ones of JB & Michelle are from Jinger's wedding and I've probably posted them before, but I don't think I've ever posted the Rods playing in the Duggar house?? Who the hell knows
Also I think it's worth noting that the only caption under Christina Caldwell's picture was "Pastor's Wife" lol.
I'm confused. How was Lauren Caldwell supposed to start courting in May 2017? She would've been almost 17.
You're right, it's weird! But, I checked; it's correct. Lauren's forecast is based on the Caldwell Data, which is fairly limited right now—and, so far, the Caldwell Women have courted early!
Christina (Hamrick) Caldwell began courting at Age 15.33.
Kendra (Caldwell) Duggar began courting at Age 18.57.
Taking the average, it's Age 16.95.
Lauren's own data from her prior relationship (w/ Titus) would also factor in, except we don't know when they started courting.
Titus Hall married Jennifer Damron today. I hope Lauren is happy and finds someone better than him. Most of the photos of them together have her with her hands in her pockets so there's no illegal touching.
A widow for ten years, Anna (Academy Award® winner Nicole Kidman) is looking forward to getting remarried when a mysterious boy appears claiming to be her late husband reincarnated. The boy can recite the most intimate details of Anna's life. What follows is a spellbinding journey inside the very soul of a woman whose mind refuses to believe the impossible but whose heart knows the undeniable truth.
We finaly saw the photo with the 'proof' of Josiah&Lauren second baby. It's not completely convincing. I predicted they would announce the birth in june but they didn't.
A redditor saw Joseph&Kendra with a newborn in a stroller at a restaurant. It's probably their fourth baby, but we are not completly sure. I predicted that they would announce the birth in june but they didn't.
Nathan&Esther announced both the gender and name of their first baby. It's a girl, named Kenna Joy.
Mitchell&Bryn Bontrager had a baby girl, Brynleigh Noel on saturday june 25th.
Mary Maxwell didn't got engaged in june. They are rumors that she is in a relationship but we don't know anything for sure.
Allison&Jeremiah Helferich didn't announce they are expecting baby #2. Allison's father did say that they are expecting another four grandbaby's (including Brynleigh Bontrager). Allison might be one of them or not.
Renee Rodrigues didn't start courting as I predicted. We did see an unkown men on her birthdayparty. So who knows what will happen.
Three Wissmann couples where predicted to announce a pregnancy in june, Andrew&Kori, Josiah&Abi and Rachel&Alan. So far there isn't any Wissmann baby due (or born) in 2022.
Justin&Claire Duggar didn't announce a pregnancy in june. Let's hope they won't until Justin is 20 years old.
"Jane Seymour,
The only one he truly loved (Rude)
When my son was newly born I died
But I'm not what I seem, or am I?
Stick around and you'll suddenly see more"
Figured I should make a proper post with all the name duplicates. I’ll update periodically as we get new casts. Just counting queens right now, but I’ll probably add LiW eventually.
Harriet Caplan-Dean and Esme Rothero both performed on the West End yesterday, which meant we saw the first double silver performance! Here’s the rundown of every combo we’ve seen so far:
L-R:
Collette Guitart and Cassandra Lee, UK Tour. These queens only played one show together, as Aragon and Cleves (pictured) when Collette was an emergency cover in Dec 2019. They never performed a show together in their primary costume.
Liv Alexander and Collette Guitart, West End. These queens performed a few shows together in two combos of queens. Note that Liv has Grace Mouat’s 2.0 costume while Collette’s is her 3.0 redesign. (photo by @/shonalouise_photography)
Cassandra Lee and Natalie Pilkington, UK Tour. These queens performed in the same production in black alt for nine months and did numerous shows together. They never had the same variations, which seems to have been intentional.
Jennifer Caldwell and Cherelle Jay, West End. These two queens played many shows together in various queen combos. Despite both wearing shorts and the primary top for Boleyn/Parr, they never got to do a show together both in that variation. (not sure on photo origin, please link me if aware!)
Bryony Duncan and Cherelle Jay, West End. These queens also played a few shows as various queen combos, as well as performing in West End Live together. They never had any of the same variations.
Shannen Alyce Quan and Madeline Fansler, Australia Tour. These queens performed together as Parr/Boleyn and Aragon/Howard. They never had any of the same variations.
Lauren Drew and Alicia Corrales-Connor, UK Tour. Back in winter 2019-20, Lauren Drew wore a temporary costume made out of modified pieces of former band costumes while she waited for a new Aragon costume. A few weeks later, Alicia left the Norwegian Bliss and temporarily joined the UK Tour as Howard understudy. However, her costume was left on the Bliss for Bryony Duncan to wear, so she also wore a modified band costume when she performed. Alicia went on twice and both times the two of them were on in their modified band costumes. (photo from @/aliciatyra_cc, unsure of origin)
Hana Stewart and Harriet Watson, West End Live. These queens only performed together for West End Live. They both wore their only variation, which were identical.
Esme Rothero and Harriet Caplan-Dean, West End. The newest addition to this post! These queens performed together yesterday for one show as Howard and Parr, respectively. Esme wore her A/H skirt and Harriet wore her pants. (photo from @/elliemaxx)
And a few honorable mentions:
Pictured: Grace Mouat and Collette Guitart (West End), Jennifer Caldwell and Bryony Duncan (UK Tour). Despite us having behind the scenes photos of these queens together in their costumes, these two sets of queens never actually got to perform together onstage in these costumes.
[More–or–Less] Confirmed: Lauren and Kendra Both Gave Birth in 2022
On October 30, 2022, Joy (Duggar) + Austin Forsyth posted a video on their YouTube, which documented them telling their families that they were expecting Baby #3. About 5½ Minutes in, Joy Facetimes Jim Bob and tells him the news. She asks what 'number' grandchild this one is, and Jim Bob says: "Number 30."
Up until Joy's video, Duggar Data had 27 GrandDuggars on the list— 25 Already Born, and 2 In Utero (Duggar–Wissmann #1, Forsyth #3). For months, it has also been widely speculated—but annoyingly, not confirmed—that Lauren and Kendra had had their 2nd and 4th Child, respectively, earlier this year.
Now that we know Forsyth #3 is GrandDuggar #30—and thus, that our list is missing not one, not two, but 3 Grands—it is clear that we were on to something with our speculation... From now on, Duggar Data considers Duggar–Swanson 2 (Baby C) and Duggar–Caldwell #4 to be "confirmed" births.
When did they give birth, exactly? Good question! We don't know, and the data is very limited, but here's my best attempt to estimate with what we've got...
Baby C Was Probably Born In March.
Let's start with Josiah + Lauren. Here are the three major facts we have to work with...
Josiah + Lauren didn't attend Jer + Hannah's Wedding on March 26, 2022. They weren't in any of the photos or video, plus Josiah was conspicuously absent from the wedding party. (The Duggar Boys closest to Jed's age, from Joe to James, were groomsmen, but Si was inexplicably skipped.)
While at church on April 3, 2022, Josiah + Lauren were seen with an infant car seat at their feet. We'll call this the Car Seat Photo.
During church on September 26, 2022, Lauren was seen with an unknown baby on her lap. The baby wasn't wearing a bow. We'll call it the Baby On Lap Photo.
Additionally, many of y'all suspected that Lauren was expecting at Truett's Sex Reveal (October 4, 2021).
With the lack of a bow, the Baby On Lap Photo suggests Baby C is a boy. (This isn't confirmed.) Regardless, we know from the Car Seat Photo that he had arrived by April 3, 2022. Duggar Data thinks that he was born fairly close to then, and that that explains Si + Lauren's absence from Jer + Hannah's Wedding. (If Lauren was full–term, or had very recently given birth, they might've been reasonably unable or unwilling to travel so far, even for a wedding.) Given this, Duggar Data estimates that Lauren gave birth in March of 2022. The Sex Reveal photo also fits w/ a March arrival. Lauren would've been 4.5 Months Along—and very possibly "showing"—at the time.
So, we'll estimate that Lauren gave birth in March. Given my usual rule for estimating vague data like this, Duggar Data will use March 16, 2022—i.e., the midpoint of the month—as an Approximate DOB for Baby C, until and unless we get better data.
Duggar–Caldwell #4 Was Probably Born In May.
Moving on to Joe + Kendra... Here's the evidence that Baby #4 has arrived—
On or around June 16, 2022, Reddit discovered a photo of Joe + Kendra at a restaurant with their 3 Children, plus an unidentified infant (~3 Weeks Old) in a stroller. We'll call it the Stroller Photo.
On or around October 15, 2022, Christina Caldwell posted to FB and referenced having "grandbabies"—not just one grandbaby—born since February 2021.
Christina's October 15th Post also included photos, including one where you can see a woman in the background nursing. While her face isn't visible, her feet are and Reddit believes they're Kendra's feet. We'll call this the Nursing Photo.
Additionally, many of y'all thought Kendra looked pregnant at Jer + Hannah's Wedding on March 26, 2022.
Christina's October 15th Facebook Post references "grandbabies"—plural, rather than "grandbaby," singular—that have been born since February 2021. Honestly, this makes no sense unless Kendra + Joe have had a 4th Child. Brooklyn was born in February 2021, so she's the first "grandbaby" born in or after February 2021. And, we know she is not the only one, because Christina said "grandbabies." And, there's no one else who could've produced the other grandchild, as Kendra is the only Caldwell Sibling who is married. Barring an out–of–wedlock birth, which is so unlikely, it must be Kendra + Joe's.
As for when Baby #4 arrived... Assuming s/he is the baby from the Stroller Photo, it must've been some time before June 16, 2022. In the photo, the baby was said to be 3ish Weeks Old. Since we don't have anything else to go on, let's just assume the baby was 21 Days Old on June 16, 2022... That gives us an Approximate DOB of May 26, 2022.
None of the other evidence is overly helpful as far at the DOB goes; however, all of the evidence could be consistent with a birth in May. At Jer + Hannah's Wedding in Late March, Kendra looked pregnant. If she had the baby in Late May, she would've been 7 Months Along and obviously showing. The Nursing Photo could also be consistent with a May birth. We don't know when that photo is from, but there is a good chance Kendra is still nursing if she gave birth in May—so, there's no reason to think it can't be her in that photo.
TL;DR We don't know exactly when Lauren and Kendra gave birth, but Duggar Data is using the following Approximate DOBs—
Duggar–Swanson #2 March 16, 2022
Duggar–Caldwell #4 May 26, 2022
Both of these are rough estimates; however, I'm fairly sure the birth order was Lauren, then Kendra.