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bisexualmultifandommess · 11 months

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It’s time for my favourite girl!

Now I usually headcanon Rose as Bi but recently I’ve been thinking that maybe she’d identify as Pan or maybe be unlabelled because I think Rose would be the type to like someone no matter what they look like but I also think she wouldn’t really put a name to it. I think either works for her.

Rose has always had an interest in men but as she got older started to realise that she liked girls a lot too. The first girl she ever kissed was her friend Shareen when they were both thirteen because they were having fun and wanted to know what it was like and if they would like it. Shareen decided instantly that it wasn’t really for her but Rose realised that she actually didn’t mind the kiss. She didn’t feel anything for her friend but she knew that it wasn’t because she kissed a girl.

For a short while she had a relationship when she was fourteen with a girl who lived a few streets away. Her name was Nell and they used to hang out after school and cuddle at Nell’s. They kept it hidden because neither girl were out yet and eventually they had to break up because Nell and her family moved away. Rose found out years later after social media became more popular that Nell had a girlfriend she started dating a few years after she left and they were expecting a baby. Rose was very happy for them.

She kept it hidden that she liked girls because in the early 2000s it wasn’t as accepted and when she met and started dating Jimmy she didn’t mention it because he didn’t seem the type to accept anything like that. She didn’t feel comfortable sharing that news about her with him but still liked him because she was young and he made her feel pretty. She eventually realised that he wasn’t good for her after all the things he did and with the help of her mum and Mickey she was able to get out and come home.

Rose came out to her mum shortly after and although Jackie was a bit confused at first she eventually came around and became Rose’s biggest supporter. The moment anyone discriminates against her Jackie is furious.

Despite her feelings for The Doctor, Rose definitely found Gwyneth attractive. She felt a connection to her and like she understood her a lot. She didn’t act on anything because she was starting to develop feelings for The Doctor and it was in the past so Gwyneth probably wouldn’t have appreciated Rose being so forward.

The Doctor ended up taking her to the future and the TARDIS had accidentally dropped them off near a pride parade event. The Doctor had been surprised but also happy when Rose was excited about it and he took time to explain all the flags even the ones that in her time weren’t as popular. She felt so happy and safe with him she decided to come out as Queer. At this point in her journey she wasn’t exactly sure what she identified as she just knew she liked men and women. She enjoyed dancing at the event and even got a few souvenirs to take back to her room on the TARDIS. She had her photo taken in front of one of the pride signs with The Doctor next to her, which she keeps on her bedside table as both a reminder of the great day she had and to remind her of her first Doctor. She vowed to go again with Ten but she never got the chance.

Rose would sometimes flirt with the men and women on planets or times they visited before her feelings for The Doctor got serious. It would often make The Doctor a little jealous.

She and Jack once had a competition to see how many people in a bar they could get the numbers of. The loser had to buy them all the next round. Rose only just managed to win by getting the number of a person called Robin. The Doctor was very exasperated by the both of them.

During her time with the dimension canon to find Ten, she saw the Thirteenth Doctor and was a little surprised. She’s always been sure after getting over her shock of him regenerating the first time that she would love him no matter what he looked like. She knew that she would love this version too.

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jewishbarbies · 5 years

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My thoughts on The Haunting Of Hill House by Shirley Jackson, and how it differs from the Netflix series.

This has undoubtedly been done numerous times, but this whole series and the book itself are incredibly intriguing to me and I've had a lot of thoughts about it while watching/reading, so here - have this abnormally long post no one asked for about a fictional haunted house!

My notes while reading the book (this gets long):

so the main characters of the book are Eleanor Vance, Theodora (they don't say a last name), Luke Sanderson, and Dr. John Montague. The doctor is an anthropologist who wants to find some kind of evidence for the supernatural, hears about Hill House, and wants to stay there for the summer. but he needed 'assistants' for his project so he sent word to a few people he'd found that had supernatural or odd happenings in their life that might make them more susceptible to whatever might happen while at the house. Eleanor and Theodora are the only ones who showed up. Luke was brought in because the woman owning the house is his aunt, and she didn't want them doing an experiment in the house without a family member present. I'm pretty sure he's got the hots for Eleanor at this point, which is weird when you think the show made them twins........oh well, i ship it in the book lmao. all the characters are portrayed in the show like they are in the book, like it's scarily accurate. supposedly, in the book, Hough Crain built Hill House for his wife. but his wife died in a carriage accident before ever stepping foot inside the gates. so he and his two daughters, left unnamed, lived in the house alone. he remarried 4 times and each wife died of either an illness or a mysterious accident. Eleanor was obviously split into Nellie and Olivia for the show. The house she could live in forever with the roses and the robin she wanted, along with the raining rocks, were all from Eleanor in the book. She was at a café and saw a little girl refusing to drink her milk from a cup that wasn't, as her mother described, her 'cup of stars'. Eleanor thought the line about not letting anyone take away the cup of stars, which was spoken by Mrs. Dudley in the show. The Dudley's are both very weird and rude in the book. Mr. Dudley is ugly and crass and Mrs. Dudley is cryptic and probably insane. She repeats herself multiple times and is obsessive about her schedule while inside the house. Theodora is written like she's a modern character, not someone from the 50's. There are so many lesbian/bisexual innuendos on her part it's hilarious. She's obviously got the hots for Eleanor as well. But I think Eleanor is leaning toward Luke, but likes Theo for the company? idk. But the way Eleanor describes the front of Hill House is borderline horrific. That line about houses being born bad was something the doctor said when talking about the origin of Hill House. Eleanor mused that maybe the house built itself, like it had builders and such but the house itself chose where everything went. AND THERE'S NO RED ROOM. there's a blue room, a green room, a yellow and a pink room, but no red room - and they're all bedrooms. idk if there's going to be one or if that's just a thing they made up for the show. so far the only two really creepy things that have happened are - Eleanor was going to bed, she locked the bedroom door and went back to bed, then she looked back up at the door and thought the door was moving before she pulled the blankets over her head and went to sleep + the doctor had left the room on the first night to get a chess game, and came back with a shiver saying that it was like the house watches you wherever you go, while saying multiple times 'but that's just my imagination'. (that's where I stopped taking notes)

THE BOOK;

The whole of the book has a very interesting, intriguing premise but fails to deliver. You get creepy vibes from many different scenes and interactions, the description of the house, etc., but you're never actually scared of something in the house. The majority of supernatural and unexplainable things that happen are all manifestations in Eleanor's mind. No one really seems to be as affected by anything quite like her. It makes it seem as though Eleanor simply went crazy instead of the house being haunted. It's an interesting, twisted thought, but it leaves you wanting. Because it's not scary. It's just weird. After spending this tedious time reading every page, the ending falls completely flat. There's a moment when Eleanor truly does snap, she leads the others on a wild chase after her in the night, and she climbs the tall staircase in the library after calling it 'home' in her mind. But, again, it fails to deliver because nothing else happens. They get Eleanor down and that's it. The next morning, they try to send her on her way because the house is getting to her, but she adamantly opposes this idea. So, what does she do? Rams her car into a tree in the driveway. We have no other choice but to assume she died because she's not mentioned once after that, even in the small where are they now section. It's an anticlimactic, uninteresting ending that makes you feel cheated after spending so much time waiting for what was promised - a haunted house, scary things, etc. I loved the poetic way it was written, and the premise is wonderful, but the book simply fails to deliver and the ending is terrible.

THE NETFLIX SHOW;

For the show they seemed to split Olivia and Nellie from Eleanor in the book. Olivia is Eleanor's crazier, 'sensitive' side, whereas Nellie is Eleanor's innocence and youthful optimism. It seemed like a smart move until Nellie died as well. Olivia's death creates backstory and Nell's gives the characters a reason to have the show, so I suppose it makes sense for that purpose. Nell's death also gave us what the book didn't - it delivered on the staircase scene. She climbed the staircase and actually died. The fact that her mother's ghost caused it gives it even more of a sad, spooky feel. We don't know much about Nell before she dies, we find out after, which also adds to the reveal of how she died. By the time we know how it happened for mother Nell and Olivia, we've grown a little more attached to them. We know a little more. And their deaths actually mean something to do us when we see them again in full view. What I loved about the show was the way it made you feel. There was an obvious ominous, terrifying feeling through the first five episodes. Then, during and after episode six, you feel only a deep depressing sadness. Now we know what's going on, it's not scary anymore, it's just sad. Steven writing a book about Hill House sounds reminiscent of Dr. Montague's quest in the book. His direct narration from the book also adds to that effect, and I think it was a good yet somewhat unnecessary addition. Theo is actually a lesbian in the show as opposed to remaining an innuendo, which I appreciated. I hated reading the obvious lesbian/bi parts without any confirmation. Though I suppose that might've been too taboo at the time of publication. Naming a character Shirley was an interesting choice. They laid on the book innuendos very thick and i'm not sure there was a point. The character Shirley seemed to be a good one, but she did get annoying in some parts. Luke was very accurate from book to show, but they gave him a more caring nature that was obviously tainted by the drugs, and it gave him more dimension. I wanted to see more of Hugh Crain. In the book, he created Hill House - but we got just as much of him in the show as the book. We mostly saw him during his time at Hill House so we were able to connect to his younger self, but not much at present. We see him now for 1-2 episodes if that before he dies.

FINAL THOUGHTS;

With so much content in the show compared to the book, the show was definitely more enjoyable and thought-provoking. There were many metaphors and symbolic elements to unpack, not to mention it delivered on its promise of a haunted house. The hidden ghosts added to the unnerving feel of the show as a whole. Added to its emotional elements, the show lingered with me for weeks after my first watch. It took the original idea of Hill House and made it well-rounded and actually horrific, and this version of Hill House truly was born bad, their version of the red room bringing it all home. 10/10 prefer the series to the book.

#g talks #The Haunting Of Hill House #mine #I have so many thoughts #waaaay too many thoughts #hope y'all enjoy lmao #hmu if you have questions #I didn't touch on everything bc I didn't want it to be too long #also hmu with your random thoughts/theories #I wanna hear 'em!!

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