#jopper? TOP TIER SHIP

[skoulsons]

Don’t talk to me about romantic relationships. Don’t talk to me about enemies to lovers. Don’t talk to me about some romantic slow burn. Don’t talk to me about star-crossed lovers. Don’t talk to me about some characters finally sleeping together. I don’t care.

Enemies to family? Yes. Slow burn father-daughter relationship where they slowly grow into the much needed role in the others life? Absolutely. Star-crossed found family cringy fluffy stuff? Sign me up. A platonic relationship where two people who very clearly care about each other but would never really acknowledge it finally having a moment to hug or share vulnerability with each other? I’m there. Found family where these people who would’ve passed each other on the street make a little team and risk their lives for each other constantly? Signed, paid, sent. Platonic physical touch? Hugs? Dinners together as a group? Moments of laughter together? Hospital scenes? Visiting the other just to visit and check up? An incredibly deep and profound love that can be never be looked into or analyzed enough because it is so strong and incredible it’s breathtaking? Saying I love you? Platonic soulmates? Best friends? yup, that’s me. I’m there, middle of the street. eating hot asphalt.

GIMME IT ALL

#im sorry it’s 2am #im in my thoughts #i really #very rarely do I care about romantic relationships #jopper? TOP TIER SHIP #Philinda? TOP TIER SHIP #Donnie? wasted potential deserved to be together #bur you know what I love so much more #SO MUCH MORE #found family. #more than that. romantic tropes used in platonic relationships #enemies to family. soulmates. idc give me star crossed them. give me everything and more. #MAKE THOSE TROPES PLATONIC. GIMME THE GOOD STUFF

[theysangastheyslew]

Heyyyy, El!! Happy Valentines!! 💜💜💜

I was wondering here: which ships are in your Top OTPs? (and why, if you want to share the reason you love them!)

Hiii Happy Valentine's to you too!! ❤️💐🍫❤️

Oof sorry I don't have a ton :( For me, it takes a lot for a pairing I like to reach OTP status, even more so a top tier spot, so the only ones on that level are:

And Nanami x me lol.

Idk I'm just a big sucker for trust, maturity, and duty before love. AND if it's grumpy x sunshine? *chef's kiss*

Honorable mentions:

Maiko (ATLA *pls don't come for me I disliked it at first too but it grew on me*)

Yutamaki (JJK)

David x Patrick (Schitt's Creek)

Benslie (Parks and Rec)

Trephacard (Castlevania)

Marshall x Lily (HIMYM)

Jopper (Stranger Things)

Thank you for the ask dear! Now I’m curious what yours are 👀 👀 👀

#le me #replies #otp #i feel like im forgetting a few #probably bc i have a million BROTPS that are very dear to me since thats more my speed #royai #levihan #fma #snk

[tired-bisexual-brainrot]

rating stranger things ships because why not :)

(these are my own personal opinions, it’s cool if you think something else but pls don’t be rude or anything thank you)

(also this is rating not ranking tho i might make one wear i rank from favorite to least favorite)

byler: 10/10 no further questions your honor.

lumax: 10/10 i love them sm <33

elmax: 9/10 god i love them (btw i only docked a point bc by itself it’s not like my favorite ship, i’d go with lumax over it but yea i still adore them)

elumax: 10/10 top. fucking. tier. it doesn’t get better than this.

stancy: 2/10 they were a little cute in s1 but they would literally never work

jancy: 10/10 jancy my beloved <3

ronance: 9/10 what can i say they’re perfect for each other

jargyle: 8/10 stoner boyfriends, they’re cute

steddie: 6.5/10 it’s good, but not great. there was potential, but the shippers ruined it for me. and if they weren’t white y’all wouldn’t even bat an eye be serious.

m*leven: … moving on. jk they’re like a 1/10 no chemistry there at all, mike wheeler i know what you are.

madwheeler (platonic): 10/10 they’re best friends. i will always push the madwheeler bff agenda. they act like they hate each other but they’d literally die for one another I LOVE THEM! romantically tho NO that feels like you are asking me to ship willel romantically like they’re siblings they’re family madhweeler brother and sister wlw mlm hostility.

duzie: 10/10 who doesn’t love them? give us more duzie in s5 or else i’m gonna riot

jopper: 10/10 need i say more?

job/boyce (what’s their official ship name anyways?): 7/10 they were adorable you can’t lie. i mean jopper was always endgame for me but bob and joyce were so cute together they would’ve been great and as incredibly sad as bobs death was, i’m glad that we never had to see joyce break up with him bc that would’ve been painful

harringrove: 0/10 wtf.

stonathan: 5/10 i can see why people ship this, it’s not a bad ship tbh i’m just personally not a fan ig. you’re cool if you’re a stonathan truther tho, you keep doing you bro, keep being unproblematic thank you

stoncy: 5.5/10 i actually don’t hate this tbh, it’s cool ig, and the stoncys out there are so chill shout out to y’all for being unproblematic cuz you deserve that recognition

platonic with a capital P steve and robin: 10/10 i fucking love them sm there friendship is so important to me

murray x dmitri: 8/10 idk why but i find this ship both great and funny, let the russian and the conspiracy theorist uncles be together

murray x alexei: 8/10 as well they were definitely together tbh

#stranger things #byler #steddie #ronance #elumax #lumax #elmax #madwheeler #steve and robin #anti harringrove #billy hargrove anti #anti milkvan #anti mileven #stoncy #stonathan #stonancy #duzie #jargyle #jancy #jopper #joyce x bob #murray x alexei #murray x dmitri #rating ships #stancys aren’t exactly the chillest so what i said abt stonathans and stoncys doesn’t apply to them solely #stonathans and stoncys are cool tho #i edited this #changed my opinions since i first posted this so

[xx-eddiethebanished-xx]

All of the lgbtq+ ships in Stranger Things are just top tier to me

Steddie <3

Ronance <3

Jargyle <3

Elmax <3

Byler <3

Only comparable straight ship is Jopper, Eddissy and Lumax tbh

#steddie #Ronance #jargyle #elmax #byler #jopper #lumax #eddissy

[thefandombringer]

i’ve seen a lot of people doing this so i might as well join the fun

note: any ships that are censored are mainly so i don’t spam the tags of ships that i’m not too fond of. 

-m*leven: 2/10

it was cute at first but the fans really ruined it for me. so many of them have been incredibly toxic, annoying, and homophobic towards any other ships that they really ruined it for me (side note; not all m*leven shippers are like that but enough of them are). also, i’m a gay mike and aroace eleven truther so it really doesn’t work out. also they lost all chemistry in the recent seasons lmao

-byler: 1009838294892949429928382/10 

i will literally talk about them for hours on end my friends are so sick of it by now

-lumax: 10000/10

adorable i love it they deserve everything 

-elmax: 5/10 

i think it could’ve been cute maybe but i also really just love having the strong platonic bond between the two and i much prefer that as a friendship. still, not super against it, just prefer them to be platonic besties.

-duzie: 7/10 

it’s cute, no strong opinion (and the never ending story scene is top tier)

-vibin: 7/10 

they’re a little too similar, but i wanna see what they do with it. also vickie is hardly a developed character right now so it’s hard to get attached to her. still, i wanna see more of them!!

-ronance: 8/10 

i think they have great dynamic; just not 10/10 bc i’m very picky about how the ship fits into the narrative of the story so that’s really all that holds me back 

-steddie: 6/10

i’m sorry, i never really got the intense amount of hype for this one… HOWEVER!! i do think this is a super fun ship for fanfiction and AUs, where they get to actually have developement and i do think they have a super fun dynamic. that being said, i really don’t like them in canon context and i think they have been super overhyped by the fandom. i’m sure i would like this one a lot more if the fandom was way more chill about it, but they… aren’t. i like this one, but it’s not my favorite.

-j*ncy: 4/10

i mean it was cute in s2 but now,,, idk i don’t have any strong thoughts on it (it also started with stalking kinda so…) and they have… okay-ish chemistry but i really think nancy needs some time to herself. 

-st*ncy: 3/10

again i think they could have good chemistry in theory but if they got together it would kind of reverse all of their character developement since season 2. also, i think they both really need to move on from each other and grow as people. 

-edissy: 5/10

honestly i think it was pretty cute for when they were interacting, i think they also had nice platonic vibes too (i think they were a good duo regardless) but obviously they’re both dead and chrissy didn’t get much screen time (also there’s no way that eddie is straight… like… at all…)

-jargyle: 5/10

i can see why ppl ship it. it’s fun! i just personally don’t but i totally get why people do. honestly, no strong opinions on this ship either. 

-jopper: 10/10

yes love them they’re amazing

-h*rringrove:

-10999000938388464829394/10

die in hell

(reminder that this is just my opinion please don’t attack me if you don’t agree :,))

#byler #lumax #jopper #ronance #stranger things #st4 #if you share these opinions please by my friend #seriously my friends are so sick of me rn- #byler is endgame #steddie

[wisdomssdaughterr]

thanks for answering my ask and clearing things up about byler. I’ll be honest, I wasn’t understanding why everyone was so upset, but you explained things perfectly so thank you. I’m hoping onto hope for you guys that they’ll have will say he is gay in season five, at the very least, as I was thinking that was kinda where they were heading? but who knows. as for lumax, yeah you also kinda put that perfectly too. to think before vol 2 came out I really thought they were gonna give us a kiss and have em get back together after some angst, boy was I wrong. I think I’m still stuck on the fact that they let max literally run up her hill, only to fall back down. From a writing standpoint, like damn, even *i* know that’s just defeating the purpose of everything they had earlier in the season. Let characters struggle, yes, let them hit rock bottom, yes, but once they get out, do not let them fail anyway. The only way I’ll be okay with this in any way is if she plays an extremely important part in the main plot for season five, if that’s what they’re planning. But still. My heart hurts and it’s been a whole night lmao. Also yes, their acting, the syncing between her and eddie, truly top tier, through all this mess

I definitely think so many scenes in vol.2 especially pointed toward will being gay, especially that shot of him crying in the van. and I do have hope that that'll be more addressed to some extent next season! however, I really don't want it to be in such a heartbreaking way, you know? but I do have hope that, since this story started with will, it ends with will. meaning he'll be a major player in season 5 (fingers crossed!) and same! I really thought the "endgame" ships jopper and lumax would be it in vol.2. and I'm so happy we got jopper. and it looked like lumax was coming back (and in a really sick and twisted way it did, I guess?) but like relationships aside, what they did to max was so heartbreaking. like I said, I'm all for unhappy endings if they make sense, but it just was like they wanted to kick her while she was already down, but trying so, so, so hard to stand back up, you know? but, like with will, hopefully, she'll be a major piece of vol.2. but then that brings up a plethora of other issues too right? like knowing the duffers, they'll perform some "miracle" and fix her sight and it'll be like nothing happened. which is a pretty problematic trope in a lot of works of fiction. you who knows

#answered ask #stranger things #will byers #max mayfield

[yelena-bellova]

Idk if you’re still doing these but if you are… jopper for the ask thingie? 😌

Absolutely!

jopper: hands down, one of the best couples on the show. them and jancy are just top tier for me! i’ve been rooting for them since the first season. they have such an undeniable chemistry. they’re literally one of those couples that’s so psychically linked, they don’t even need to say a word. watching hopper pine for joyce in s3 was just adorable and heartbreaking like that man is a true simp for her. the kiss in s4 was perfection and if i had watched the show from the beginning, i’d have definitely been satisfied waiting for that. now i’m gonna need hopper as a protective dad to jonathan and will. 10/10 would recommend this ship to a friend ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

send me a ship and i’ll give my brutally honest opinion

#asked and answered

[jonathanssweatercollection]

What are your favorite st ships?

jancy, stoncy, stonathan, mileven, staloncy, mikelmax, elmax, lumax, kalancy, milevill, kalathan, henclair, byclair, wheelclair, byerson, jopper, joyren

in that order (emboldened ones are like top tier tho)

#stranger things #anon #replies

[serendipitous-magic]

Hey, I just wanted to ask, while we wait for the completion of the first chapter of the season we should've got, what is your primary reason for writing this project? Is is it because of the lack of certain relationship dynamics, or maybe presence of certain ships? Or is the writing quality of season 3 in gerneral just that subpar and poorly executed?

My primary reason for the fix-it rewrite is simply this: I do not believe that the S3 we got did justice to the story or characters at all. And I want the characters, the story, and the fans to have the S3 that the story should have gotten. (That sounds very pretentious, looking over this, and I’m not trying to be like, “Oh, I can write the story that we all deserved, no problem, let me just bust out my magical writing skills since I’m clearly the only one able to fix this mess (adjusts monocle and swirls a martini).” That’s not what I’m trying to say lol. I would simply like to try my damndest to give us that, whether I entirely manage it or not. And hey, shoot for the moon, right?) 

Let’s just forget ships entirely for a second. Hell, let’s forget the audience entirely. Regardless of what fans wanted, let’s consider this: the canonical seasons (1 and 2) were fantastic. The characters were complex and well-developed, and they felt like real people. The plot was fascinating and the storytelling was top-tier, with enough complexity and symbolism and background details and authenticity to captivate a huge fandom. The acting was on point. The writing was great. The whole show (the canonical seasons, that is) felt real. It felt like we were watching real people struggle against real events, and that authenticity and emotional connection was, I think, a lot of what made the show so great.

My main reason for my rewrite, honestly - more than being for the fans or even for my own satisfaction - is that I feel like the characters and story that we all know and love deserved better. The characters themselves, as characters, deserved so much better than (gestures angrily) that. (I won’t go into a whole ‘nother rant, because y’all know what I’m talking about.) The story deserved better. The writing was just... bad. Like, straight-up, it was just bad writing all the way around. It all felt like an over-the-top, cheesy B-list 80s movie, and not in the good way. While the dialogue of S1 and S2 felt like we were seeing and hearing real people talk and interact and react to things, the writing of S3 felt like a stageplay written by 13 year olds. Nothing against 13 year olds - it’s just, a professional TV show that was that good in the first two seasons really should be better than that, you know? So much better.

There were so many loose ends that S1 and S2 left hanging that S3 just straight-up ignored. There were so many wonderful, authentic, intriguing relationship dynamics - positive and negative - that they could have explored. There were so many aspects to the characters and their lives and their struggles (as a result of the events of S1 and S2) that would have been so fascinating and emotionally impactful if they had taken the time to address and explore that. And they just... didn’t. S3 completely abandoned any and all emotional connection with the characters - both between us (the viewers) and the characters, and between the characters themselves. The entire plot was driven by empty drama and meaningless action, with very few moments of real emotional connection anywhere. I’ve said it a lot and I’ll say it again: S3 is not the same show as seasons 1 and 2. It’s a completely different thing. The atmosphere is different. The aesthetic is different. The themes and morals are different. The acting is different. The writing is different. The characters are completely different people (I’ve beaten the phrase “paper-thin caricatures” to death, and I shall continue to do so). The construction of the plot is different. It’s a completely different show. From a storytelling perspective, it really does seem like we never actually got a Stranger Things Season 3 - what we really got was a show of the same name, with characters loosely based off of the ones we know, but the thing we got? It wasn’t Stranger Things. It just wasn’t.

And speaking of, I’ll touch on ships now: yes, of course I’m completely dissatisfied with the treatment of... uh... all the ships in S3? I mean, that’s an entirely separate rant in and of itself, but I’ll just say: it’s not just byeler. Ofc I’m gonna be writing byeler into my rewrite, because (gestures at my blog) I’m a byeler shipper. So. Yeah, of course. But besides byeler, S3 treated all the ships so badly tbh - even the ones that were “together” during the season. Even mileven! I don’t ship mileven, but I was pretty disgusted with how S3 treated that relationship. They played mileven for empty drama, and they didn’t even do a very good job at writing their relationship. (Again: that’s another rant.) And Jopper? WTF was up with Jopper? Who wrote that? No, seriously, who wrote that script. I just want to talk. Even Lumax, who were arguably the most stable and better-written couple in S3 - even they were very snippy with each other and apparently broke up and got together like 5 times in the span of half a year, and... It just seemed like all the ships were written so poorly, even the ones we were supposed to root for.

So, yes: another reason I wanted to rewrite S3 was to give the ships what (I think) they deserved. A respectful relationship built on teamwork and friendship for Jopper (which is definitely heading towards romantic, though it’s stalled a bit by both of their stubbornness and by Joyce’s mourning for Bob). An arc for mileven which allows them to see the negative aspects of their relationship, both grow as people (especially El, who really needs space to develop as a person), and retain their (amazing!) friendship. An arc for byeler that acknowledges and addresses their lifelong friendship, the bonding they went through last season, Will’s sexuality, Mike’s sexuality, etc. And so forth.

Reason #3(ish): the plot of S3 felt sloppy, based on empty drama and action (as I’ve said repeatedly lol), and it did not address many of the interesting loose ends left by S1 and S2, and I would like to address that in my fix-it. What happened to all the (many, many) hints about Will having powers? What happened to the Mind Flayer being a terrifying and fascinating villain/monster (without turning into a goo-monster for CGI flexing)? That guy said that Brenner is alive - is he? What about that Party trying to grow up too fast to escape and leave behind what happened to them as kids (except for Will, who’s trying to cling to the childhood that was stolen from him)? (We got a little bit of that in S3 but it was like... never addressed? Never resolved??) What happened to the Upside Down - like, the physical place itself? Why did we need to introduce Russians (like, literally just “Russians,” as a vague, stereotypical concept) as a villain when they already had good, solid villains established? Why the sudden “MURICA, CAPITALISM IS GOOD, RUSSIANS AND COMMUNISM BAD, DID I MENTION MURICA??” theme? Why? Why did they drop all the interesting loose threads from the canonical seasons only to shove in completely unnecessary new villains and drama that frankly just bloated the plot and didn’t add anything to the story that had been established in seasons 1 and 2?

Look, I could go on and on and on. 

TL;DR: My reasons for this re-write project are as follows:

1) I felt that the story and characters themselves deserved better, and so did we as viewers and fans. S3 did not even feel like the same show as S1 and S2, and I wanted to at least try to write a story that would do (better) justice to the story and characters.

2) All the ships were treated terribly in S3, in my opinion, mileven included, and I wanted to a) treat them better in my rewrite, and b) yes, make it gayer. A lot gayer. Because I’m gay and I can. So (throws confetti).

3) I wanted to address some of the interesting loose threads left by seasons 1 and 2, and cut out a lot of the bullshit that was shoved into the plot unnecessarily in S3.

#asks #anon #this got long sorry #i had a lot of Thoughts (TM) #the real season 3 #sts3 #season 3 spoilers