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#jin ling's uncles
mhalachai · 20 days
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i'm cleaning up my desk and found a note that I wrote god-knows-when with a story idea for the Untamed that, if i can recall the thinking behind the scribbles, goes a little like this:
in a tale as old as time, Jin Zixuan gets his awkward/arrogant teenage ass cursed.
the curse?
he can shapeshift into a dog. not always voluntarily.
his mother is pissed and can't find a way to lift it. she is 100% not going to tell JGS because of his whole deal.
Mianmian knows because at some point on a nighthunt going wrong JZX stress-poofed into a pomeranian in front of her.
no one else knows.
anyway, canon events happen.
JYL finding out that her new husband turns into a canine is certainly a surprise twist she did not see coming, but well she's always liked dogs and was sad when JC's dogs had to leave when WWX came to Lotus Pier.
Anyway, JL is born in the normal way, a huge honker of a baby.
Everyone is thrilled.
Everything is normal.
then
rocks fall
Everyone dies.
JC ends up taking his nephew home to Lotus Pier to take care of him as like there is no one else.
Four months later JC picks JL up from his nap one afternoon and screams as the baby turns into a husky puppy in his arms.
JL doesn't understand what the fuss is about. he's a baby and he's hungry. so what if he howls instead of cries?
JC is not as sanguine. Queue a bottle episode where through flashbacks and exposition, it's worked out that while JZX might have been cursed, JL is just... like that.
Great, so now what?
anyway this is my tl'dr as to why Jin Ling and Fairy are actually the same person and this is why Jin Ling is so annoyed when MX!WWX is terrified of Fairy. like, what, this big bad demonic cultivator can't tell that the 140lb doggo with the Jiang-sect clarity bell is more than just some pooch?
Lame, da-jiu. Lame.
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jezebelgoldstone · 1 year
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ALL RIGHT LISTEN.
CANONICALLY
jin ling's uncles by blood: jiang cheng, meng yao, mo xuanyu
jin ling's uncle by adoption: wei wuxian
jin ling's uncle by marriage: lan wangji
FURTHER
if your uncle has a brother then that brother is also your uncle, right?
jin ling's uncles by blood and then oath: lan xichen, nie mingjue
and again, if your uncle has a brother then he must be your uncle too
jin ling's uncles by blood and then oath and then blood: lan wangji, nie huaisang
jin lings' uncle by blood and then oath and then blood and then marriage: wei wuxian
SO
IN CONCLUSION
GOING OFF ACTUAL BOOK CANON *ONLY*
THERE ARE TWO POTENTIAL NUMBERS OF UNCLES
If you adhere to the transitive properties of family and siblinghood, jin ling has EIGHT UNCLES
If you think siblinghood is NOT transitive, jin ling has FIVE UNCLES
THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT
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It LIIIIVVVVEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS!
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I’m having xuanli feelings about being young, first-time parents; about Jin Ling’s first 100 days, and how Yanli would’ve spent the first month (or longer) in confinement - her poor health strictly monitored by her mother-in-law. 
And perhaps Jin-furen was kind with her in a way her own mother never hand been, and prepared her for childbirth and the changes of her body in the first months postpartum in a way Yu Ziyuan never cared to do. (Perhaps she never expected Yanli to be able to carry a child, and held so many private feelings about her own experiences of motherhood that she couldn’t look past them.) There’s so much potential for an exploration of motherhood, and generational trauma, and healing and forgiveness, in those precious months Yanli was a new bride in Koi Tower, heavily pregnant and desperately needing a mother figure. 
But there’s also so much potential for a honeymoon phase that coincides with the sweet milky baby phase of parenthood, where the world narrows and Yanli and Zixuan find a new purpose in sustaining this tiny, squalling bundle around the clock, perpatually exhausted and fulfilled.
And there’s so much potential for awkward, bashful, earnest Jin Zixuan. Imagine Yanli having breast pain, and unable to breastfeed for the first few weeks, and his mother telling him exasperatedly, “Massages just aren’t helping, you’ll have to step in.” And Jin Zixuan’s face is beet-red already as he blurts, “What?” and Mianmian, who has stopped by to visit and offer her assistance to them both, is outright laughing at him as his mother explains with the patience of a saint - “Her ducts are blocked because A-Ling cannot suckle hard enough yet. The husband is sometimes required to move the blockage in a similar manner, where massaging fails to provide adequate stimulation.”
Simultaneous shy, careful postpartum and blissfully happy new parent sex ensues once Jin Zixuan has dug himself out of the ground he wished so hard he could melt into.
And imagine the mixed feelings Yanli has when her husband tries so hard to cook her some soup, only to be admonished by the various aunties (who looked after himself as a baby, isn’t that a weird thought) and his mother, who tell him that Yanli already has a cold energy imbalance in her body, what does he think he’s doing making pork and lotus soup? But Yanli sneaks some anyway, because she knows he remembers how she often went to such lengths to secretly make an extra serving for him. But Zixuan only knows the quantities of the recipe that Jiang Cheng recited to him, and he can’t understand why they both look sad as the three of them drink the soup - until he remembers his other brother-in-law, and realises whose portion he is drinking. 
When he overhears Yanli telling A-Ling, so late one night during one of A-Ling’s wakings, of his da-jiu, Zixuan quietly swears to himself that he will go against social prejudice for once in his life. He will tell Yanli to invite Wei Wuxian to A-Ling’s 100th day celebration, and he will meet his brother-in-law himself, to escort him safely to see his nephew. 
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parlerenfleurs · 2 years
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We talk at great length about Jin Ling's uncles, but I have never seen anyone talk about Jin Ling's aunt by alliance who is also his aunt by blood :))
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The one thing we have established beyond doubt is that mdzs is Jin Ling's uncle-ception
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niobefurens · 1 year
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Jin Ling's Uncle ...
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jin ling's slightly less homophobic arc (masterpost here!)
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poorly-drawn-mdzs · 1 month
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Wei Wuxian 🤝 Maleficent: Not being invited to a child's birthday party but showing up anyways (to make things worse).
(for @youremysunshine8)
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mushroomwriter · 2 months
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THE UNTAMED episode 34
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lei-llustrations · 5 months
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jc can't escape his fate of becoming a milf
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“Sorry Jin Ling, he’s OUR uncle now” He is irresistible to all, the platonic Mumcle energy is too strong even apart from him being a MILF
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mxtxfanatic · 28 days
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Just saw someone make a post about how Hanguang-jun was “beefing” with a child (Jin Ling), and while the response I saw to it was fantastic—pointing out how Jin Ling was a spoiled brat who was constantly, knowingly putting others in danger and Lan Wangji served as one of the first adults in his life (the other being Wei Wuxian) who actually disciplined him for his unruly actions in order to teach him to be a better person—it made me think of something I never really took notice of: Jin Ling is afraid of other adults.
Now, obviously Jin Ling isn’t afraid of all adults. He���s unhesitant about bossing around the adult Jiang disciples when his uncle isn’t around. He treats “Mo Xuanyu” very disrespectfully until Wei Wuxian puts him in his place. He’s fine with yelling back at the adult rogue cultivators whose lives he’s endangered. But he reacts to Hanguang-jun as if Lan Wangji is going to kill him (or Fairy) for stepping out of line. Why? There are two reasons for this: 1) Jin Ling is afraid of adults that his uncles will not protect him from and 2) because he has not had any positive examples of care or discipline in his life, discipline, in his mind, carries an inherent threat of violence.
Let’s discuss point one. Outside of Lan Wangji, every adult listed above has been successfully suppressed by either Jiang Cheng or Jin Guangyao, Jin Ling’s uncles. The Jiang disciples are under Jiang Cheng’s control. The rogue cultivators are cowed by the threat of Jiang Cheng’s Zidian. Mo Xuanyu has been expelled by Jin Guangyao with the full weight of the Jin Clan behind him. So Jin Ling, the nephew who they allow to run wild, has nothing to fear by disrespecting them. However, Lan Wangji does not fall into this category. Lan Wangji is the younger brother of Jin Guangyao’s sworn brother, and as the uncle who does not step in to protect Jin Ling from violence, Jin Ling is well aware that Jin Guangyao would likely not side with him if he crossed Lan Wangji. At most, he would play peacemaker, as he does to discourage Jiang Cheng from reprimanding Jin Ling in his presence. This only works for individuals who care about reputation, though, and Lan Wangji is no such individual. That leaves Jiang Cheng as the only one who could potentially suppress Lan Wangji, but immediately upon confrontation, Jiang Cheng backs down from conflict and instead chooses to throw Jin Ling under the bus, probably for the first time in the child’s life. Neither of his powerful uncles will defend him against this adult, and this adult, himself, is unafraid to run afoul of Jin Ling. This, then, leads to the second point.
Jin Ling has only known violence as a form of discipline. It is notable that neither of Jin Ling’s uncles discipline him when he is in the wrong for his actions: Jin Guangyao coaxes Jin Ling while deflecting criticism while Jiang Cheng encourages Jin Ling’s bad behavior…except when directed at himself. Thus, let’s remove Jin Guangyao from this “discipline” conversation. What does Jin Ling know of Jiang Cheng’s discipline methods? Well, he whips first and asks questions later. He belittles Jin Ling with verbal abuse and resorts to physical violence against his nephew when under stress. He runs his sect with such an iron fist that his disciples are afraid to tell him things he does not like. Jin Ling has never known him to be anything but cruel and cold. And if we take into account how both the Jin and Jiang clans treat outsiders, we see that most situations of disagreement or discontent end in violence, with the Jiang and Jin as the ultimate victors. Therefore, with these stunning examples of “discipline” from his childhood guardians and their clans, it is no wonder that Jin Ling fears what being “disciplined” entails from the hands of an adult that neither of his uncles will fight for him against.
It is perfectly reasonable—in the most tragic of ways—that Hanguang-jun terrifies him at the beginning if the story. This is why the introduction of Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian into his life was imperative: Jin Ling got to learn that discipline—be it criticisms or reprimands—is not inherently violent and thus was made safe enough by his two unlikely mentors to listen to them in order to transform into the better person he is by the end of the novel.
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twistedappletree · 10 months
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puddingcatbeans · 1 year
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mdzs, a summary:
you either die as jin ling's uncle or live long enough to become jin ling's uncle
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Some time ago, I made this post of a silly idea that came to me while reading a poorly written fanfiction where my flu-addled brain started imagining everyone as vegetables. The idea wouldn't leave me, I had to draw it.
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Yes, their clothes are a mix of TU, the donghua and other media bc I did this from memory and for giggles so I went with the details I associated the most with each character. No, I don't know how two leafy vegetables produced a pepper.
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cephalopodish · 11 months
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it's a great strategy to stay behind your small polite uncle to hide from your angry grape uncle even if you don't fit very well anymore
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