#iilluminaughtii

[prideprejudce]

youtube drama is very downplayed when it comes to its impact on tumblr (discussion of it usually ends as rapidly as it begins) so the fact that hbomberguy has been the top trending tag for several days now shows how much of an impact his video essay has made on the writing and video community as a whole. his video has spread so much awareness over the rampant plagiarism issue that has been festering under people’s radar for years now while dozens of youtube “creators” make six figure salaries off other peoples words and research. he effectively took off so many people’s rose tinted glasses and made us all blatantly aware of what an absolute shitshow this problem is now in modern media and how manipulated content has become

#hbomberguy #james somerton #internet historian #iilluminaughtii #YouTube #plagiarism #because of that video ive been going back to my old favorite essays with new eyes #and let me tell you……it’s uncomfortably disturbing

[merp-blerp]

I know it's late to say, but I hope that Hbomb's video will encourage people to not only cite their sources but also have a good source to begin with. Don't tell me Snow White is 14 years old and then show a screenshot of a featured snippet from Google that leads back to Screenrant.com. Don't tell me Judy Garland was forced to take drugs and smoke 80 cigarettes a day by MGM and have your source be social osmosis or "Hundreds of other videos say so!" Where's that info from? Does it's source truly make sense as a source? Are there more reliable routes for sources to take outside of looking online, like reading books about the subject from people involved or seasoned/trusted in the topic? I know "Google is free", but that doesn't mean it's always good for research. Try Google Scholar at least...

#the way the source for the snow white fact is an old outline of the film from 1934 apparently #the film went through so many changes between 1934 to 1937 #her age was clearly just left unsaid by the time the film was released #and no the grimm bros ver. doesn't factor into what her age in the film would be—disney took many liberties from the source material #and how would it make sense for Judy to smoke 80 cigs while working—her break time probably wouldn't even be long enough to smoke 80 cigs #not to mention she was staring in a musical where she had to have a clear voice unaltered by the amount of scratchiness 80 cigs would cause #and judy's mom began her abuse of prescription drugs not mgm #think if the facts you hear make sense #plagiarism #misinformation #hbomberguy #plagiarism and you(tube) #plagiarism and youtube #james somerton #iilluminaughtii #internet historian #disney #snow white #snow white and the seven dwarfs #the wizard of oz #the wonderful wizard of oz #judy garland

[viv-hollande]

The Internet Historian plagiarism debacle is kind of uniquely funny to me. I'm "a fan" of Internet Historian, by which I mean specifically The Cost of Concordia, which is an excellently paced recounting of a personal interest of mine and is thus video crack for me, especially in the first half. While I did register some of his more 4chan opinions, I mostly ignored them because those videos generally weren't as tightly scripted and didn't hold my interest. ADHD brain y'all.

Even before Man in Cave I had mostly drifted away from his channel. The Area 51 video was the start of this. I only watched it once when it came out, but I vaguely remember it being sluggishly paced and packed with internet reference humor, especially that of the 4chan variety. I don't remember if I saw Man in Cave when it first came out or only saw the worse, rewritten version. Given that the original plagiarized article is excellently written, and that I don't really remember Man in Cave having that much of an impression on me, I probably never saw it, or only saw it one.

The really funny thing for me, though, concerns The Cost of Concordia. You see, because nautical stuff is of interest to me, I can attest that The Cost of Concordia is an exquisitely researched, extremely accurate retelling of the Costa Concordia disaster. Internet Historian was so committed to accuracy that he intentionally made the dialogue worse by using direct translations of the transcripts of the Costa Concordia's data recorder. A lot of it sounds slightly stilted and repetitive because of that direct translation, and because Captain Schettino kept asking the same questions over and over again.

In the Q&A for The Cost of Concordia, Internet Historian also goes into some of the creative process behind making the video. He talks about some of the ideas they had for the project, many of which actually had a lot of work put into them and later had to be scrapped. He talked about scrapping title cards, specifically because they broke up the flow of the video. Thank fuck he did, because again. Video crack.

It's just so funny to me that unlike iilluminaugtii and Somerton, who were all plagiarism, no substance, with just a tiny little heaping bucket of shitty personality, Internet Historian and his team are clearly capable of doing actual research and making well animated, well written, accurate videos. Even more strangely, he readily admitted to a few factual errors and misrepresentations in the Q&A, so he clearly doesn't mind admitting minor goofs for the sake of accuracy. What happened here? Did he get bored or something? Was he just assuming he could get away with it?

#internet historian #james somerton #iilluminaughtii #hbomberguy #plagiarism #adhd

[dr-teatime]

supplemental iilluminaughtii hbomb video just dropped 👀👀

#hbomberguy #iilluminaughtii

[cara-delaney-author]

One thing that's been gnawing at me about the new Hbomb video and the... everything in it is the realisation how some people are "I always knew XYZ was a plagiarist!"

Okay, that is great. Genuinely, I'm happy that you recognised it early. But that is so, so hard to do nowadays. There's genuinely so much plagiarism out there, and it's incredibly exhausting to try and spot it.

Not just because a lot of plagiarists hide it with a lot of effort. But because there is so much stuff out there, it's impossible to be able to recognise it all. That's what makes it so easy to get away with it for so long - there's a decent chance it just gets lost in the noise, and nobody ever hits both your content and your plagiarised sources close enough together to notice.

How do I know this? Because I used to enjoy two channels run by the same person - one about media (primarily gaming, mostly sci-fi and horror), and the second channel was a "tales" channel, dedicated to recounting true stories, or urban legends. Think the Franklin expedition, the Bloop, or Dyatlov pass.

Well, I say "recounting", but during the video about the Donner Party I realised that I was listening word for word to the Wikipedia article about the incident. I'm not kidding, I pulled up the article and just. Read along. For the entire rest of the video.

Turns out almost all of the videos on that second channel are like this. No, there is never a single source cited (which I didn't realise because I was watching on the PS4 and didn't see the description), and a cursory glance at the comments showed nobody ever mentioning this. I know I only noticed because I'd looked up the Donner Party earlier that week (which is why I was watching the video), and recognised some of the specific phrasing. Until that point, the video had been presented as if the Youtuber was reading from his own notes, sort of like a half-freeform presentation based off of bullet points. Which it very clearly wasn't, now that I went and checked half a dozen of his videos and found the exact same thing happening in every single one. A few minutes of intro written (hopefully) by the Youtuber himself, and then just a reading of the Wikipedia article with no attribution whatsoever.

So now I can't enjoy either channel anymore, because I have to assume the main channel is also 100% just someone else's words read out loud without the original creators' permission. And even if it isn't? The whole thing is soured for me now regardless.

My point is that a lot of systems today are set up to enable this kind of behaviour, from the absolute deluge of "content" to the easy to replicate tricks like flipping footage and applying filters to trick people into not recognising it as stolen. And then the piece moves on too quickly for the average viewer to stop and wonder why something might feel familiar.

Nobody is a bad person for not recognising plagiarism, even if it is incredibly blatant in hindsight. But if you see a video or read a long essay, that makes grand claims and shows you a lot of different things, but never cites any sources... if you have a few minutes, maybe check to make sure you're not consuming something that was wholecloth stolen from more deserving creators.

#hbomberguy #james somerton #iilluminaughtii #internet historian #luke stephens #plagiarism #no i won't specifically name the channels #but if you watch them there's a decent chance you already knew who i'm talking about halfway through my post #the names in the tags are just the ones in the hbomb video #just in case you'd like to know who that's about without having to invest four hours on a monday morning #go watch the video though when you have time it's really good.

[stardustdiver]

youtube "drama" this year is just

commits illegal activities

commits illegal activities

commits illegal activities

commi-

#edp445 #iilluminaughtii #colleen ballinger #sssniperwolf #polish minecraft youtube #youtube #youtube drama

[black-bishop-40k]

Do plagiarist see hbomberguy like how criminals see Batman

#hbomberguy #james somerton #iilluminaughtii #plagiarism

[thoughts-of-loyalty]

Plagiarism and You(Tube)

I must say, as someone who is (or was) a fan of Internet Historian and iilluminaughtii (I wasn't a huge fan of the latter, and had fallen off of the content a few months ago, but I did subscribe and have up videos as background noise while doing stuff, so I can't pretend I wasn't a fan at all), I won't deny that it stings to see them be revealed as plagiarists. I really enjoyed their content, because of the way they can really give a good voice to their work, but to see the proof of their theft up on the screen... it sucks.

hbomberguy really put it well well describing *why* people do this: that they're sure they won't caught, figure they can get a lot out of it, and have no desire to put in the effort it takes to truly make it their own original piece or do the research themselves. For instance, you can *see* the production value in place in the visual parts that Man in Cave has, and they're entertaining to watch (I won't lie, I watched Man in Cave at least three times within the first week it came out), but the fact that the words being spoken and the layout of the events described aren't his own is... well, it brings the rest down by association.

I won't pretend I was ever aware of their issues - I tend to stay in my own lane when it comes to the media I consume, I don't spend much time on Twitter, and I don't seek to involve myself on YouTuber drama - but seeing the curtain pulled back sucks to consider, it's a real breach of trust as a viewer too because you want to believe what you're being shown is earnest work that is all their own, or at least properly attributed if being borrowed. I hope they'll actually learn their lesson and improve their work, do their own research, etc etc... but I can't be fully trusting, because we see the number of examples where they get called out and don't learn a thing/spin the story to protect their reputations/deny everything and continue on. A loss of trust like that is hard to reconcile, if it ever can be.

As a closer, I do think an interesting point that wasn't touched on as much as it could've been, in the parts about James Somerton is the topic of discussion, when hbomberguy refers to how someone who was actively supporting him discovered their plagiarized work in a piece of his... it really does indicate the level of lack of consideration these people have for the content creators they steal from. Like, they think so little of what they're taking from, and only for their own success, that they wouldn't care one whit who they hurt with it - this could be someone who actively admires them, and they wouldn't think twice about treading all over that person. Just... sheesh.

#hbomberguy #internet historian #iilluminaughtii #plagiarism and you(tube) #for the record #I don't have anything to say about the rest because their content wasn't stuff I paid attention to #But don't think that means I don't feel distaste for them either #I just wasn't a fan of theirs so I can't give my personal input #but still #a lesson to learn from all of this #don't think you're above not noticing #i was fooled for years because I wasn't looking closely at these people #As 99% of people tend to because that's a thing not often done #So y'know... #insert meme about not being immune to propaganda

[not12001ants]

Youtubers are really either dying a hero or living long enough to become the villain

#this is a joke #matpat #watcher #tom scott #jenna marbles #iilluminaughtii #james somerton

[etysky]

Just finished watching Click's response video to Illuminaughtii. Horrific, is what she did to him. The part where Click goes through some of the screenshots and is just realizing that that one troll account who had been harassing him and everyone around him for years, was her all along...I don't have enough words for it. The sadness, shock on his face at the situation dawning on him is heartbreaking to see.

#the click #mark deck #iilluminaughtii #also I will never watch one of illus videos again #i never lurked that much on reddit or teit bc i dont really trust those sites anyways #so I didnt hear that much about any “gossip” #but I was aware of Illu's faults ro an extent #even then #i didnt think it was this bad #im so disappointed in her #I thought she had been improving as a person but nope

[currentlybeltingbohemianrhapsody]

I know everyone is talking about James Somerton right now and for good reason but can we talk about the fucking shit show that is iilluminaughtii for a second? I remember when I first discovered her videos I was so happy to see someone covering MLM's that I actually THANKED her in the comments for her videos. I have seen first-hand how much MLM's can ruin people's lives and I was so genuinely grateful to see someone talking about how horrible they are. Turns out that this whole time she was screwing over more hard-working people for the sole purpose of making easy money, the exact same thing that she was criticizing MLM's for. The fucking gall.

#such a fucking hypocrite #iilluminaughtii #hbomberguy #lu's shitposts

[bluedot-blog]

Words that I never thought would make me tear up:

“I get to clean. I get to go to Walmart tomorrow and buy cleaning supplies.”

- Oz Media

#oz media #iilluminaughtii

[weaponized-kindness]

If Oz Media and illuminaughtii's genders were flipped, there would have been no hesitation to call this what it is: abuse.

She is 8 years older, and that relationship had a massive power imbalance. This is parter abuse. Adding that to Wonder's and her other ex story, we can see a pattern. Her being a woman abusing men allowed her to get away with so much.

#oz media #iilluminaughtii #wonderstruck #abuse

[thosedamnlemmings]

When it cuts to him in the white t-shirt and he goes through all the posts on Blair’s alt account he sounded so sad it’s breaking my heart 😭, please someone get this man a hug and a cup of hot cocoa.

Blair keeps turning out to be more and more of an awful person each time i check back in on this situation, I feel bad for all of her fans who liked her, but mostly i just feel for the people she’s targeting, she needs help, and preferably a break from the internet for a good long while.

#Anti iilluminaughtii #iilluminaughtii #the click #one topic at a time #Youtube

[tuhbanbuv]

Creep Watch UPDATE

YandereDev, after being exposed for grooming minors via Discord, is still online, guilt tripping his child audience saying that "my game isn't for kids so it's not my fault uwu" and using his undiagnosed autism as an excuse for his predatory behavior! His official Discord is presumably still open where he's been doing damage control. Unfortunately, I know all too well that Discord tends to ignore the rampant droves of pedos and groomers on their site...He has also been still active on his Patreon.

However, his Twitch has recently been banned as of this week!

Meanwhile, SSSniperwolf is currently evading her "temporary" demonetization by switching to her side channel, Top Videos, as well as removing the comment sections altogether. I suggest that people mass report and flag her content for spam and going against TOS by her diet ban avoidance.

And finally, oh sweet little iilluminaughtii is STILL at it, uploading videos like nothing happened. It seems that she's deleting negative comments or a majority of her remaining audience doesn't know that she groomed and abused Oz Media and is currently suing him with the goal of making him homeless by Christmas. However, most of her sponsors have dropped her, as she's only linking her Patreon and Linktree in the description.

While I do not like cancel culture, I believe these three are the exception, as they all have arguably have committed crimes and done nothing but hurt others around them. So I have a call to action: report whatever you can to the proper authorities, as both YandereDev and SSSniperwolf both have committed online abuse of children, contact Youtube and Patreon and inform them of YandereDev, SSSniperwolf and iilluminaughtii's respective behaviors and let them do the rest.

#yanderedev #sssniperwolf #iilluminaughtii #call to action #oz media #jacksfilms #yandere simulator #tw grooming #tw abuse mention #tw child abuse

[goldenpinof]

Colleen kinda made people forget about Blair. i hope we will manage to multitask eventually.

#colleen ballinger #iilluminaughtii #youtube's seasonal dramas are a part of the 21st century culture #and i can fucking not