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Part 6
Stand by Motion
I believe one of Ann’s stand by emotes holds more importance to her background than one may suspect.  Neither in her deduction, letters or background information is Ann’s death explicitly caused by someone. Rather than the object itself. That being the pike (cross) which pierced her heart. 
I believe Ann’s in-game power holds a truth to her death. The details of the night aren’t elaborated on but one thing we do know is the moon wasn’t out that night, leaving the entire sky in complete darkness. I believe Apostle (The cat) may have knocked the ornament cross from a tree or possibly from a building resulting in the cross falling and piercing through Ann’s trapezius and exiting through her sternum.
(This may be hinted at through her visit animation)
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My Hypothesis
The cat:
Apostle seems to turn its followers into martyrs so they may be reborn and in debt to its power. 
This hypothesis would be supported by Alva and Ann’s deaths followed by Apostles appearance and offer of revival and ‘salvation’  in exchange for them to renounce their faith and or ideals in place of its (Apostles) own. 
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(I believe the cat is a manifested form of the deity, not the actual deity itself.)
Cycle of death:
Hermit was committed to making a perpetual motion machine but in the end he seemed to have been a device in an endless cycle of death and rebirth.
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I believe the plague which hit Ann’s village was caused by Alva’s positive and negative electromagnetic tethers (This is supported by the symptoms and hints within Ann’s deduction) Why would Apostle want this from Alva? And why would it go after Ann?
I believe Apostle needs to consume the life force/souls of people to sustain itself and has made a never ending cycle of plagues, death, followers, revival and salvation to achieve this. Alva sent the electromagnetic plague to Ann and
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mystxmomo · 11 months
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So not to start this off by coming across as my typical pretentious self but when considering aspects of a ship that are cute I personally like to allow it to be informed by the context of the characters within the ship. Like yeah you can make a first date be cute on any person, but the real treasure is found in things that are cute situationally to the character
I'll start with Edgar pairings because you know I'm not lying about him being my main little guy.
Edjose is the ship that, for me, I find the most straight forward "Oh. Little signs of affection are adorable on these two."
Like, I think of all the game five ships I write for, these two are the ones where the Cute Charm of the ship is the gradual acceptance of intimacy. José has grown up in an environment where the love he received was conditional to his work, and Edgar's love was supposedly unconditional but often inauthentic at best and explorative at worst. And (in the best case "these two come to understand eachother and have a healthier relationship" path) it's just inherently very cute for the two of them to have small moments of physical intimacy, understanding, and vulnerability.
Hmm. A specific scenario that has played out in my head that I've been looking for an excuse to include in my head being something like the two of them at a party together and Edgar, overwhelmed but masquerading it as anger, goes to place himself next to José. José takes notice and asks if he's had enough, touching the small of his back as he does it. Edgar glares at him, but it's clearly not with malice. José excuses the two of them from the room, and when they're alone Edgar spends like ten minutes resting his forehead against his shoulder.
Private, quiet intimacy. I think it's adorable on them.
Kevgar is cute like just conceptually to me. I know it's the entire premise of my main fic for them but I love the role reversal of "man introduced to gay culture by a man a decade younger and far more knowledgeable then him" I think it's nice especially give their character flaws and vulnerabilities. I think that Kevin has never actually gotten a chance to explore his own personhood before he doesn't have the vibe of a man that does a lot of introspection outside of self-flagellation and I think Edgar is good for him.
I think Edgar would for better or for worse know that Kevin is someone safe. Even before they like eachother or before they're getting along it's really hard not to look at this man and decide yeah he's wearing his heart on his sleeve he couldn't manipulate me if he tried, let alone that he wouldn't want to. Specific situation wise though I think?? It's something I've tried to write before and more specifically incorporate and have failed so if it pops up in a fic in the future don't look at me, but I think it would be kind of sweet if, pre-relationship, Edgar just Comes To Kevin when he gets in moods where he's getting really paranoid about the people he does trust taking advantage of it, or Kevin coming to Edgar when he's forced to be alone because being with someone he hates is better than being left to his own thoughts and guilt. And it's about the intimacy in the inherent trust that even if I hate you you won't hurt me. I think that's nice. That makes me feel warm and happy.
Edgar and Vera is really sweet because I think it's the only ship here where Vera would willingly eventually tell him about the full extent of her situation with her sister, the fact that she murdered her and took her identity, the fact she did it out of jealousy, ect. Like I think other ships here she might tell them bits and pieces, but with Edgar specifically I think there's a moment where she'd break and just dump everything on him, and he just like. Takes it? He accepts her for who she is, for better or for worse, because he does love (be it as a friend or romantic partner) Vera and wants the world for her! In return, I do think Edgar would tell her about killing his mentor, but I don't know if that holds the same amount of emotional weight for him as Vera's sisters death holds for her.
I included this scene in my uhh biography fic, but I do turn over scenes like. Melancholic dancing together. Sitting together and Vera leans in and whispers in his ear while blocking her mouth and they both turn and look at a character while she does it. I think Vera is a very physically clingy person, and I think she is the only person Edgar will let do that to him explicitly and publically. I think they like the idea that they're comfortable with casual touch and affection, and I think it's charming because in my head their end game relationship IS platonic.
I like? Edgar and Patricia? Like, clearly, given I wrote something involving them for his birthday. But I don't know if I have anything off the top of my head that would be "cute" for them, because I see so many of their interactions on the basis of mutual respect and the horrifying ordeal of being know. Like, I feel that so much of their relationship involves the inherent respect and seeing eye to eye and knowing eachother in ways others absolutely don't want to come to know you. So I don't know if I'd say it's?? Cute? But if I had to pick a scenario for them that would feel meaningful in some way, the idea of like. I would have to come up with an au to justify it, because canonically both Edgar and Patricia want Edgar dead. But protecting eachother or standing over eachothers bleeding out body.... In either direction. That would be nice to see for the two of them.
Vera/José is like...
I think so much about the appeal of this ship to me is the grief and the tragedy. They're both dealing so heavily with their own grief and trauma, and I don't think either of them are emotionally mature enough to help eachother deal with that grief when they're both handling their own. The aus I have for them are like. Madam Coral pulling Hook!José into the sea not by a song of seduction, but from the agonizing sobs that are echoing from the sea. The vibe of canon José/Vera for me is Vera acknowledging that this man tried to manipulate her but willing to disregard that in her own loneliness and exhaustion. They're standing there covered in dirt and grime looking at the damage the game has done
The only au I have that's kinda cute and fun for them is the. Basil au, because I think it's hilarious that Dill-Vera wants to fuck him like, canonically. She thinks he's hot. I lost the point of this question I know I'm supposed to be coming up with something cute for them but I think the point was that they are tragic. Uhh. So while my normal interpretation is that they would normally drag eachother down in their own misery... Hm. There is an au where they maybe mellow eachother out, and through eachother come to understandings about themselves. José maybe able to come to hear the way Vera's parents treated her (her "sister") and realize his own father never quite actually loved him (and he knew that, of course. He knows that love is conditional, he knows that care is secondary) and to that point, Vera (who sees the world through her perfumes craft, and how people only saw worth in it after it made money) is able to come to value herself beyond her worth as a perfumer. And there's connection there. And I don't think they'd ever truely be able to help eachother climb out of the realm of addiction, and I don't think they'd ever truely have the level of connection to eachother they could have with other partners (Vera is never telling him about killing her sister, José is never telling her the extent of the horrors he's seen at sea) but theres love and symapthy and empthy
And that's not cute. But it is heart warming
Anyway. Both of these characters are addicts with no emotional intelligence and no self-awareness. I hope this helps.
Vera/Patricia is ALSO a ship that's hard to come up with cute moments under the condition of romance because I ship it mainly under a toxic pretence, but like. At worst Patricia is actively trying to murder Vera, and using effection and comfort to calm her and help guide her to her death, and at best Patricia doesn't kill her, and Vera grows attached and their relationship becomes a little co-dependent bubble. And you can shape that in a way that's not DESTRUCTIVE, right? That co-dependence in itself isn't going to rip them apart. But the both of them have lived a very long, exhausting life. Vera never got acceptance from her community as herself, and Patricia ruined the acceptance of her community through her actions (it's more complicated then that, but as Patricia see's it, from her perspective.)
And so both woman don't have acceptance in their communities, and they can find that in eachother, and when you find that you want to keep it. And I think in doing so, they struggle to know Each other? If that makes sense. Something something the idea of eachother, seeing themselves in their partner rather than their partners actual issue, but knowing that vulnerability is there and knowing they connect with that vulnerability.
Something cute for them, actual situationship wise... It's not a specific situation because again. All of my situations with them are like. Patricia coaxing Vera to smoke to relax her, or Vera melting down in Vera's room. But I have this scene in my head for a scene from their main game where Patricia and Vera, both in their worn clothing and covered in blood, meet on the boat. The wind catches in Vera's hair, and she turns to give Patricia the smallest, most yielding of smiles.
For a moment, all is well.
Vera/Kevin
I think Vera Scares this man
I will keep it honest with you. I'm still working out their dynamic, so I don't know if I can come up with anything immediately cute off the top of my head for them. But I think Vera confuses this man, because she both confirms and contradicts his world view at the same time. On one hand she's dainty and elegant and kinda small and would be easy to... Hurt? Not to sound deranged. She's kind of pathetic in a way that would pull at Kevin's heart strings. But shes also very clearly manic depressed in a way that she has violently lashed out before, and gives me the impression of someone who goes through a lot of emotional swings. I think that contradiction would throw Kevin off.
And I think that's where the meat is. Like the meat is her challenging his view. But I don't know if that's cute that's just a straight forward dynamic. I think the idea of Kevin just scooping Vera up and over his shoulder is very cute. I don't even think she'd fight it like Edgar would, I think she's so touch starved that he scoops her up and she freezes up like a cat she's so thrown off.
I'm surprised I didn't hit José/Kevin sooner, but like. Gestures at the fandom. To be fair, they mostly got that covered.
I do think that the fandom does get the baseline of their dynamic wrong? This is a ship that, at the very least, starts as a hate fuck and has to grow from there. I think these two are verbally fighting in the streets and fucking in the sheets. But it's easier for me to come up with things that are cute and charming for them as a result, because the aspect of the enemies. It's about the little aspects of care while they deny it's aspects of care. Kevin gathering José up after catching him drunk because the instinct of being a hero overpowers the aspect of hating men? That's cute as hell to me.
I don't think. José is self aware enough to understand what he appreciates about Kevin is that Kevin disrespects him for who he is and what he does. I think José DOES like the fact Kevin is willing to challenge him so avertly. It would amuse him as much as it frustrates him, but would especially frustrate him when Kevin starts making points that are right. I think Kevin is, more then anyone here, someone that might make José actually question and crumble against what his idea of honor (because José's idea of honor IS bad. He thinks he is a good person because of his service to the queen, because of his role in the navy) is through direct confrontation and conversation. I can imagine Kevin and José arguing and José just stopping mid sentence and trailing off as he realizes, unfortunately, that Kevin might be RIGHT about something he's saying. He needs to sit down over it, and he expects Kevin to mock him for it, but I think by the point that this would happen Kevin is also sitting there looking at José essentially melt into himself and hold his head over his own world view and just
Quietly sit down and join him. Sitting back with him, rest an arm around his shoulders and sit with him.
And they have that moment where both of them understand. Yeah?
José/Patricia and Patricia/Kevin .... Give me a day or two to think on that one. I haven't put much thought into either of those dynamics. The most I've thought about José/Patricia's dynamic is in the post game au that came out before Edgar's letter where she was constantly exasperated and judging him for like. Still being alive, literally for that reason. Patrica doesn't respect José OR Kevin, I think she thinks they're both big miserable babies in drastically different ways. But she also thinks that of Vera, and I'm willing to ship those two. So I'll think of something unique and interesting for you in the future.
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kainereee · 2 months
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This isn't an attack on fluff or anyone who enjoys a cute moment in ships because I love a cute moment! I do go crazy and kick my legs yes yes
But sometimes I sit and think that tbh? A lot of idv characters would not have nearly as flowery and non-problematic relationships as I see them portrayed. A lot of these people who've arrived at the manor are fucked up. Like they have deep-seated, deep-rooted issues that if they were to get into relationships would affect these said relationships — and I imagine not in the healthy way too.
And this isn't me saying your mental health or your flaws define how you'll act to a person. Nor that they aren't overcomeable. No, most certainly not, but they'll definitely play a BIG factor.
And honestly I think that should be considered more sometimes because its something super interesting to explore narratively. Give me something forever unrequited, doomed! Give me something codependent, hell, maybe even toxic!
Perhaps it's because for me the observance of any kind of dynamic ( platonic, romantic, maybe a secret third thing ) always tumbles into a straight up character study of both parties involved - but that feels hard not to do so when you have a media that can get really dark like IDV and when you have characters that don't fit within a black and white space of morality. When you have characters that, ultimately, have very unhealthy ways of treating people and when you pair them with others this can escalate, for better or worse. Because it doesn't have to be all doom and gloom, growth is beautiful too — but I don't think we should shy away from the struggle that comes from that. I think that makes it more beautiful
Idk this is just my propaganda post for the only way I like my michimary is unrequited and full of strain and that I believe Joseph Desaulnier is too far deep into his research and goal to ever fully commit to someone like that /lhj
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pansythoughts · 8 months
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Back with more meta, got a curious cat asking for my thoughts on Herman Balsa. I, predictably, had a lot to say.
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Oh, boy, have I got Herman analysis.
I want to be really clear up front that I have two caveats to any Herman analysis that I could do that readers must keep in mind. The first is my strong bias here—I don’t care for Herman as a character as he presented in both Luca and Alva’s narratives. The second is that with that, I exclusively ship Halva as a thing that happened in the past. I do not have thoughts or feelings on Halva as an evolving ship or thing I actively enjoy; all my halva thoughts are part of my Alva character analyses and color the way Alva thinks about his current story relationships (which for me usually means alvaluca, platonically or romantically).
That said, the most important thing in my read of Herman is that he was a very selfish man. The kind of selfish where you are incredibly self-involved, and have no idea that you are. He didn’t think he was a bad person, he wasn’t trying to be cruel or malicious, and he genuinely thought his work was going to change the world and that’s why he sacrificed everything to it. But it cost him every relationship he had, all his money and time, and eventually his life.
Herman, I think in his own perspective, always thought he was doing good, or at least doing what was expected, but didn’t concern himself with the people around him or how they were feeling about his actions. You can see that in Alva’s story, about how he doesn’t bother to tell Alva about his family, or where the money for their research is coming from, or about his more dangerous experiments. He valued Alva as a research companion, and calls him the only one who understands him, but doesn’t let him in—largely, I think, because he never thought to. I think it never occurred to Herman to let Alva further into his life, because he was so focused on his own work and desires to pay attention to Alva’s.
And we see this more with Luca, from how Herman treated his son and his wife. From everything we have, Herman was a neglectful father—he doesn’t seem to be around, and her certainly doesn’t seem to be providing for his family. Neglect is a form of abuse, and Luca’s story and reactions to his father in both the main narrative and events make a lot of sense looking at him through the lens of abuse survivor. And here too, I don’t think Herman ever intended to abuse his son, because he didn’t consider himself a bad person. But he didn’t care about his son or his wife and their lives as much as he cared about his desires and his work. He wasn’t around to care about them, and didn’t think of how spending all of their family’s money would affect them, because they were always secondary considerations.
The fascinating thing about Herman is he’s the ultimate villain in both Alva and Luca’s stories, right? He fucked up Alva by holding him with guilt and withholding information, and then dying before he could ever make it right. He fucked up Luca by never being there in the first place. And that difference reflects how both men feel about him—Alva resigned and bitter but missing him, and Luca forever angry about him even as he longs for him and follows in his footsteps. Herman’s flaws are so utterly human, and it makes him compelling and believable. I can see why people are drawn to the sketch of a character we get from the holes he left in Alva and Luca’s stories, even if I’ll never like him.
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willnaib · 5 months
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been thinking a lot about alva lately. the whole balsa zeeman lorenz affair is funny as it is but alva being the opposite end of the swing there .. you have two generations of zeemanbalzacs who are fucking delusional and then you have alva on the other side of that who is Just As Delusional except said delusions are about being able to "save" herman and then luca. Which is so wonderful and then equally as wonderful that hermit is how alva exists now because it's like. that savior complex taken to the extreme. iirc the shared alva connection damage is described as the cult prioritizing empathy and shared burdens (too lazy to look up the specific in-game wording) but like. That in context of alva ruining his life and career for herman and then luca bc he was convinced that maybe if he tried harder [herman would have loved him back] he could save them. I DONT EVEN LIKE HALVA but its undeniable that alva is down horrific for that man. everything alva does only makes sense if he loves herman (to which herman couldnt give less of a fuck in return) its crazy. I really do hope that alva's letters focus more on the cult. Maybe not the first one because they do tend to backtrack to deductions for the first letter but i want more cult lore. I'm not mad that alva so far has been largely focused around pre-death lore because i think understanding alva is essential to understanding luca lore but i want to see more about the cult soooooo bad. i love characters that have that kind of selfish empathy to them. Let me take your burdens so I can save you because maybe then you will care about me the same way I care about you or whatever.
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vampyresonata · 1 year
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Violinist Day 2022 - Letter 2 Analysis
This was originally posted on my old twitter account, but since I've privated that account I realized there is no way to access it anymore! So, I've compiled my entire 5 Page analysis below for you to enjoy here! Like before, I'll start with the TLDR first and put a read more below! I'm someone who loves Antonio a whole lot, so whenever this letter hit twitter originally I was... disappointed at the responses some people gave, to say at the least. (And, another warning, this is very long.)
TLDR;; The devil is not at all metaphorical and is real. Even if the devil in general media can be used as a symbol for things such as addiction and indulgence, he is less an active metaphor when Antonio’s addictions were something that happened prior to his deal. Additionally for Antonio's case the devil does not serve as a proper metaphor for addiction when the two times in text (before this letter) he has been presented to us, the devil had been helpful to getting Antonio out of the situations at hand. Antonio does have his indulgences, but they have very little to do with the situation at hand beyond brief context. To blame him for the addictions (and blame him for even having them) is demonizing addictions as a whole. While this does not take away the fact that Andrea still suffered some sort of trauma, we as the viewer are aware that what had happened was not Antonio– and even then Antonio himself is aware that he has hurt her even if it was not him actually doing it. Additionally, neither of them could have expected any sort of outcome as Antonio has never physically harmed anyone before when the demon possessed him in the past, so we cannot say that he should have known better. We also cannot say he should have known better for making the deal in the first place, as the deal was made during a point of his life where that was the only place he can turn to.
Starting off with the fact it's written on the back of a piece of sheet music, which is later established to be because he had written a piece in her name for her on the front of it. From here, I will bring up each section of the text I specifically am referring to.
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This is the first we hear about Andrea. As she is a new introduction, she is not mentioned in any prior lore-- the only other women we know that Antonio is involved with is any of the one night stands alluded to in Deduction 2 and the Princess to the royal family he was priorly imprisoned by. We assume one of two things of Andrea:
The deduction ‘Seductive Tune’ is not actually about him having one night stands with different women and instead is an early iteration of his time with Andrea. I find this to be unlikely of the two options because the description of Seductive Tune makes a mention of “joy that was missing,” which aligns with his history of being partial to indulgent behaviors in order to obtain immediate satisfaction in the way his talent could not.
Or, the more likely of the answers, he found Andrea after his time with the royal family. He makes a mention that she is different from the other people he’s met, both upper and lower classes. She understands him like nobody else we’ve seen within his story, which must mean an awful lot to him as we know Antonio’s story tends to play with Toys/Puppet + Caged Bird motifs with how the world around him perceives him. This one is more probable than the first option.
He starts off mentioning there’s been some time they've last seen one another, which we will touch upon later down the line. Carrying onwards, we also learn that Andrea does not hear things the same as other people-- very likely that she is some degree of hard of hearing, given “grateful that the aria managed to overcome the barrier in your ears” and “unlike those with normal hearing.”
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Andrea means a whole lot to Antonio, this is clear. Not only by how he starts off with “My dearest” and how he asks how she’s been during their time apart, but additionally in the lyrics he relays back to her in this letter. These lyrics show how much he truly adores her, whether he wrote them himself for her or if these were lyrics she sang to him once that he remembers. This is very reminiscent of Crescent Knight to me, in the way there is someone dear to him in his life that is now unobtainable to him. But that’s neither here nor there!
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It’s incredibly important to note that Antonio here is not excusing himself. He is explaining things, being honest about himself and his past. It’s additionally important to know that Antonio has spoken about this to Andrea before, as he notes twice “as you know.” Which leads me to point out that Andrea had begged and pleaded for him to play the song he repeatedly told her he feared (“No matter how much … I would never…”); and that the song itself had already left them somewhere rocky ( “... or even threatened to break up with me, …”). He makes it expressly clear that he does not want to play the song, no matter how she pushes him to do it, because he knows that he should never. 
We can assume that he has only played this song twice, as it’s instance is recorded twice in canon: once when he first made it in his desperate attempt to escape the royal family (to which it was the only thing he could turn to) and once more when he was forced to play it at the concert we see in his introduction video.  However… he eventually gives in and plays it for her, but not without her having to ask him after he makes it clear he feared it. This is by no means to blame Andrea for anything that may have happened beyond this point. However, to properly understand everything that has happened we need to be aware that she had been asking him to play a piece he had repeatedly refused. He brings up indulgence because he is expressing that he has indulged by indulging himself in her wishes because of his love for her– not because he has relapsed back to any of his prior habits.
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Now, I go back to bringing back the mention of the prior times Antonio has played the piece. The first time (seen in Antonio’s Letter #1), we are aware that he goes into a puppet-like state-- where the violin plays before him and he is pulled against the wall like a puppet. Nothing happens to the servant in question, nothing happens to the Court Maestro writing the letter. We can see something similar happen in Antonio’s Introduction video, where he just plays before the crowd whilst becoming the puppet for the devil his soul is tied to. Those two instances are helpful for Antonio– one to get him out of the royal family (who had practically kidnapped him) and the other to push forward and continue playing in concert to save his pride. There’s no reason to believe that something would have happened between the two of them, there’s no way either of them could have guessed. 
While Andrea does not know, we as the viewers are very aware that Antonio is being truthful when he says that he was not himself. There are several canonical accounts in Antonio's lore that tells us that the devil in his backstory is real (and IDV did not write off all of it’s supernatural-- Luchino’s Professor to Reptilian’s existence is proof alone, alongside the other Eldritch Beings), and to refute it in order to “blame” him is absurd when there's nothing in canon that would even imply to us that the devil isn’t real. There is nothing in canon that would point to Antonio lying about the devil, and if you think so I recommend you read his deductions and first letter again to refresh yourself. The text is set in stone that he does have supernatural/demonic involvement.
This is not a matter of a relapse of addiction, this is a matter of possession by a supernatural being and the fact that Antonio is not himself. While he does bring up “seduced by the long-lost joy and pleasure of gambling in the Casino,” he does not mean this literally. As this letter takes place to recount one instance in time, I believe Antonio is speaking poetically and is comparing the way the possession feels to his prior experience gambling. He took the risk of playing the song for her, and that in itself is the gamble. There would be no reason for him to play the song and then just fuck off in the middle of it to go to a Casino, since this is recounting one set instance in time.
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I previously brought up that in Antonio’s possession he has never really done anything directly to people, instead he just plays while the demon takes over him. As I have also (repeatedly) previously brought up, we as the viewer are aware that Antonio was Not Himself and anything happening under this moment was the devil. That being said, there’s two things that may have happened here:
In his possession, he frightens her-- it’s a horrifying thing to see someone you love become an almost entirely different person (because he, in this case, WAS an entirely different person) and she is too fear stricken to leave until he is out of possession. Antonio mentions “distant crying,” which implies that she was across the room from him rather than directly near him. He also describes the bow gradually swung down with inertia, rather than by his (or the devil using his) force. This would make sense as an option, given his prior behavior upon playing that song on the violin. When I first read the letter, I did genuinely think it was that he ended the song as he heard her cry and the slow fall (“gradually” , “inertia”) was him coming out of the possession and thus the bow hitting the ground in front of him. 
However I cannot deny another possibility that aligns with the described behavior, which is the one most people have chosen to believe, that while under possession the devil may have used Antonio to strike Andrea. If this is the case, I do not believe he had done anything more than one strike. I do not believe he beat her as some people may have claimed, as the word beat over hit has severely different connotations– and it would have been detailed in the text instead of a vague horror. There is nothing that would imply further than that. However, I am more inclined to believe the first option over the second-- but again I will not and cannot deny this possibility.
However, there is no way to tell exactly what has happened, as Antonio was not conscious enough during the event to tell us. We simply know that he played the song, wound up possessed, and in the process Andrea ends up crying in a mess on the floor and it takes him out of the possession. Looking at it, after rereading the letter, to me it seems that Antonio has no idea what actually happened and is in horror at himself at the possibility of different things that could have happened. This is a one off instance rather than an occurring instance given his prior possessions have never hurt anybody. Once again, he could not have known any better. We cannot say for sure what he did or did not do, and this will likely stay this way. Identity V likes to be incredibly vague, and when they want something to be obvious they will be obvious about it. It's why the media is so full of unreliable narration... because they want us to do the work and piece it together. We're the detectives after all!
Now, it is important to note that: even though his actions were not his own, this still has an effect on Andrea. It is equally important that I state, again, that I am not blaming Andrea for anything that has happened. We as the viewer know it is not him, but she does not– and Antonio is aware that she does not, which is why he takes the time to explain it. What happens between them is still understandably hurtful and terrifying, but through the lens of the viewer we need to be aware that Antonio shows remorse and regret. The second he recognizes what has happened, he is terrified in what his image had been used to do, whether if it was to strike her or if it was just him scaring her. This carries on in the next set of lines.
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He calls back to “the sunlight, the moonlight, the starlight” as a way to prove how much he cares for her and how much she means to him. Additionally, he is aware that he cannot fix what has been done, and he is aware that in her mind it is him who had scared her off/hurt her. It is important to note: he is not asking for forgiveness, he is apologizing. He is acknowledging how this has affected her.
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Calling back to the beginning of the document, it has been months since they have last spoken. He is looking for her, not just for closure and to apologize but because she has gone missing.
Given how we know he becomes a hunter, whoever speaks to him about getting rid of his possession was lying to him. <3 But it’s important to note that Antonio arrives at the manor in order to find Andrea again and he is aware he is taking a risk. He writes her this note, in the hopes that she will see it, as a way to prove to her that he is changing for the better and as a way to go out of his way to change for her likely so he cannot bring her, or anyone else, harm again.
Basically, the most we need to point out here is that he is still in love with her+ he feels remorse+ he’s going out of his way to risk everything just to change and reverse his errors + this will fail him.
If you read all of this, hope you enjoyed! :)
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tallemy · 6 months
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It's Joker appreciation day (as every day)
So let me say, how much I love that while canonically half of his face was discolored by acid and his original design even uses make-up to cover it, unlike Norton's burn scar it does not appear in his high tier skin as it was a result, but not a cause of his misery. The same difference in his base appearance and various skins also appears in Moonlit Shoal and Swallow of Deception. For Joker it was just another day in a circus just like how his lost leg is not something he exist with, but the devs always make sure that it reflects his lore in that essence. Fireworks Guy and Heavy Bomber lost their leg because they used explosives and they were not careful with them. In the Crystal Palace it was even noted that FG is still getting used to walking with the prosthetic leg and often needed it to be adjusted or repaired. On the other hand Encroached reflects his unhealthy devotion and connection to Babel. The tower of Babel is literally what keeps him balanced and can have many interpretations as his "rebellious" side is the one with the prosthetic.
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withered--s0uls · 1 month
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mr sirenjose is job lore robbie and dolores you go
https://www.tumblr.com/sirenjose/739717714291081216/robbie-and-dolores-were-born-to-a-wealthy-family?source=share
I will read it later /gen
Tho I did provide a huge chunk of the information found in Dolores' Wiki + even some in Robbie's in relation to Dolores - so yk, a lot of that might already be based on my research and digging already /lh /pos (/info kinda??)
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woesunf · 2 months
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What if I said Emma Woods…
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doctor-mesmer · 2 years
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begonia <33
// begonia - how cautious is your muse? are they prone to noticing red flags, or paranoid to the point of untrusting most everyone?
ada has a serious issue with paranoia. its not clear where it comes from, but it's not something she can easily introspect on and unravel herself. she is constantly worried that the people around her pose a threat to her and emil's safety--but really, mostly emil's. she's very protective and borderline possessive of him, to a point where it can easily be dangerously unhealthy if she doesn't watch herself.
in her eyes, everybody has the potential to threaten her, and threaten emil. she doesn't easily trust anyone, and tends to keep a sizeable distance between her and other people, always scrutinizing everybody she meets and constantly on the look-out for the slightest indication of ill intentions.
she is especially cautious of emil's friends ... though, she finds that he's pretty good at fending for himself. in the manor, she was very, very hesitant to let him near other people: it was nothing like their home, where she had goaded him out of his shell and told him he should talk to those around him and make a couple of friends. these people were all here for their own gain, for themselves, for something they wanted: who's to say what they would do to get it?
(it would be worthy to note that he was the same way. he would grab her hand and tug her to him protectively whenever somebody walked past that he found particularly distasteful. he would stand behind her and grip the back of her shirt while whispering his distrust.)
however, as days turned to weeks, and weeks turned to months, her caution unraveled. emil had begun to make friends after having a little time to adjust, and she had grown to at least hesitantly trust them with emil's wellbeing. of course, it doesn't stop her from worrying that someone will take him away from her, but every time she stops to take in the devotion and adoration with which he looks at her, the way he meets her eyes in a match and runs to meet her, she realizes she has very little to worry about after all.
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fakeblue · 1 year
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oh my god everyone it’s Mellys birthday…
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Part 3
Connections
Ann and Alva: Both Ann and Alva possess a silver cross shaped pendants with an Ember colored eye, scarring across their bodies as well, Both have a similar cat/eye motif in their abilities and design, Not to mention Apostle appears in Hermit’s trailer beside his death bed  and Ann’s trailer as well.
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Hermit design notes from images above:
His skin is covered with bandages, hideous and terrifying scars could be vaguely seen under them.
A necklace in the shape of a vertical eye is worn on the hermit's chest, perhaps this is related to the mysterious power he has obtained...
The scepter in his hand is shaped like a standing black cat, mysterious and noble.
The entangled wires are faintly visible on the scepter. There are two buttons on the grip, to switch between the magnetic poles.
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What can be taken away from this? The pendant both Ann and Alve possess are related to the followers of the Eye of Darkness (apostle). They are linked to the powers of Ann and Alva. Alva is the scientific spectrum while Ann is the religious.
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turbulentscrawl · 6 months
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Identity(V) Headcanons: Norton Campbell
I'm starting off the writing blog with some of these character analysis-esque headcanons! (Starting with Norton bc he's honestly the reason I made this blog.) They'll serve both as practice for me, and examples for any readers on how I write different characters.
Again, I am new to the IDV fandom, and I have never played the game. These headcanons are informed by ongoing lore dives sourcing the wiki, japanese twitter responses, comics, stageplay, and more! Some of these may relate to or even contradict character backstory, and some of them are just pure vibes for me. If you like it, consider shooting a request ;)
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-Norton had always been a moodier guy, but the mining accident (and the lack of mental and emotional support he received after it) resulted in a much more obvious split of his temperaments. Without trying to put a name to something I’m no expert in, Norton has two distinct personality states which are both aware of and inform one another. The First is the more common state, wherein he is more level-headed, but prone to melancholy and isolation. His melancholy tends to be more intense after an episode with his Second state, wherein he is very likely to exhibit anger, mania, and cynicism. Likewise, his Second state tends to be more critical when he’s been uneventfully mellow for a good while. He tries his best to balance and regulate the two, but this particular emotional roller coaster is one he never had any say in getting on and has never had any assistance getting off.
-The First state typically lasts longer than the Second, sometimes stretching several days at a time. During the First, he’s at his most amicable and chatty. This is the best time to get to know him as a person.
-When in his Second state, which is usually triggered by something that reminds him of the accident, it’s better to give him a wide berth. Even in the case of a friend or partner who has thick skin and handles harshness well, Norton can become hypercritical of himself for being cruel to them.
-His mother died in childbirth, leaving Norton with only his father, who also worked himself to an early grave. Norton had to start working immediately to keep himself fed (and sometimes didn’t even manage that) so he has next to no education. He does not read or write especially well. He is also not particularly tech savvy and struggles with new concepts. That said, he's never been one to back down from a chance to improve himself, difficult or otherwise.
-Norton was mostly genuine in his visits to the elderly and sick. Many of them were other miners and laborers who helped him find his footing after his dad died. Their help may not have amounted to much in the long run, but they didn’t just look the other way and he understood the loneliness they felt on their deathbeds.
-The one exception to this was Benny, who Norton had also once looked upon in an appreciative light…until he learned how to read. It was then that he scoured his father’s old letters and discovered an infuriating truth: after the birth of Norton and the death of his mother, his father had been about to leave the mining industry. Benny was the one who convinced him to stick around and join the obsessive hunt for gold. It was through a mix of spite and desperation that Norton decided to swindle Benny out of his maps and take the chance at riches for himself.
-Norton does not talk about the mining accident. At all. Not even if he’s paid. Part of it is self-preservation—since he IS the one who stole and illegally ignited the explosives. The other part is that he is well and truly wrecked with guilt. Norton did not get along with most of his coworkers in those final days, was bullied and harassed by them, but he wanted to get ahead of them, not kill them.
-Because he’s been self-reliant from such a young age, he’s naturally distrustful of other people. He has trouble accepting people at face value and often rejects compliments, and other words of affection. He’s the embodiment of “actions speak louder than words.” In general, if someone wants to get closer to Norton they have to put their money (and their labor) where their mouth is and show a lot of patience. Any genuine relationship with Norton is hard-won.
-In line with the above, the best love language to give Norton is Acts of Service. Physical Affection would also work well once you reach a certain threshold in his trust. Gift-Giving is a decent third, but you would need to tread lightly here, lest he start to see the budding relationship as purely transactional. Holidays and birthdays are the best time to really go in on gifts for Norton, since he has a harder time arguing bribery with culturally dictated gifts.
-He genuinely does not find himself to be attractive. I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s insecure, as he really doesn’t think about it much, but he’s least likely to accept compliments about his appearance. The burn scars certainly don’t help. If you do compliment his appearance, it’s better not to mention the scars at all than to try and make him feel better about them.
-He wholly, genuinely, hates the rich. Which is obvious enough, I suppose, but I think it’s more extreme than people give him credit for. And really it just comes down to unadulterated jealousy and bitterness, which are not easy feelings to overcome.
-Norton is of the opinion that all life is equal—and when he’s at his most cynical, this means he’s willing to take the balance of “an eye for an eye” into his own hands.
-His sweet tooth is limited to donuts and a few other carb-y baked goods. He prefers savory flavors, or sometimes bitter, such as in the case of his black coffee. He doesn’t eat as much as you might expect for his size, but he always eats quickly, and hunched over his food like it’ll be taken away. Old habits die hard.
-He has a terrible sleep schedule, due in part to frequent nightmares about the accident. He’s also somewhat claustrophobic and dislikes pitch-black spaces, so a window is a must in his bedroom. He prefers to have it open whenever reasonable.
-He doesn’t do well with thunderstorms, as the rumbles of thunder sound too much like the beginnings of a cave-in.
-If he has one singular strength, it’s perseverance. Hardships don’t deter him because he’s seen and overcome plenty. He’s a loyal friend as well, once completely won over. If he cares for you, you’ll never have to tackle a hurdle alone.
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satoshi-mochida · 2 months
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Persona 1 Phone Game, ‘Persona: Anomalous Tower Chronicle’ Receives English Fan Translation
From Noisy Pixel
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Several Persona fans have united to release an English fan translation for the highly obscure Persona mobile game Persona: Anomalous Tower Chronicle. This 2006 title is a spinoff of sorts of the original Persona, Megami Ibunroku Persona, and it’s a gameplay-heavy experience with not much story to speak of.
Players form a party of four to navigate a tower and acquire orbs in order to reach the structure’s roof. The battle system should be familiar to those who have already played the first Persona. Interestingly, this game was made officially accessible in Japan in September 2023 via G-MODE for Steam and Nintendo Switch. So, it’s neat to see that accessibility made it even more convenient for prospective Western players, thanks to the efforts of dedicated fans.
You can view the credits for this fan translation project below, and yes, these are all verbatim:
Graphics Editing – agarpac
Main Translator; Beta Tester; First to Beat the Game – Gabriulio
Project Originator – Kaisaan
Title Logo/Banner Editing  – Laventory
Game Hacking; Work on the Patcher – MKCA
Steam Deck Tester – Alexandra IDV
Lurker – Apollo
Lurker – Bread__Guy
Hyped Supporter; Game Mechanics Analysis – Ginger
Translation Fixes – Hee-Ho
Steam Deck Tester – Hiro
Lurker – Jonker Kujo
Survey Participant – Kularian
Lurked; Asker of Dumb Questions – Lemonov
Tester; Bug Catcher – Lorenzo
Steam Deck Tester – Mordexai
Lurker – Not_a_bear
Tester – Quantum_Dog
Survey Participant – SkyRaiderG7
Lurker – Toppis
Could Not Beat the First Boss – Vanessa
Special Thanks
JTR
For help in sifting through Chinese esoteric and literary knowledge in pursuit of better translation.
Kaisaan
For starting the project and getting the team together.
Quantum_Dog
For letting us headquarter on his Discord server.
You can access and download the English fan translation of Persona: Anomalous Tower Chronicle via GitHub and purchase the game itself via Steam.
The following note is also significant:
PSP Translation Differences
While this translation follows the official English localization of Shin Megami Tensei: Persona for PlayStation Portable, some deliberate changes have been made. A document listing the differences is available here.
Lastly, Quantum Dog and Alexandra_IDV shared a message on Twitter for those intending to play this fan-translated title on Steam Deck.
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pansythoughts · 10 months
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So I got this anon message on curious cat
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And I ended up writing an insane person essay on Luca, Alva, Herman, and class perceptions and economic considerations in roughly IDV’s canon era. It got too long for curious cat. I’m deeply embarrassed. You can read below the cut.
So to start with I agree with you anon but you’ve given me the opportunity to be so annoying about history and my Luca head canons so I want to take it.
I don’t think Luca grew up rich, despite growing up with an (likely) aristocratic last name and the *appearance* of nobility. From everything I can tell, Luca’s family was like upper middle class, or lower upper class; I suspect someone in Luca’s family (likely on his mothers side) had a background in some industry that allowed them to become very rich, or else were part of the hereditary landed gentry (no titles themselves, but related to a titled family). Herman also seems to come from this class, though the sense I get is that his family had a better reputation but less money than mama Balsa’s. With that distinction made, I think there’s a heavy implication in the lore that rather than provide appropriately for young Luca and Mama Balsa, Herman spent their money on his projects, neglecting not only the emotional aspects of being a father and a husband but also all financial responsibility. Luca grew up in high society, with his parents having connections, but much much less income for anything to do with them than would be expected of their class. Not only would this have made things difficult at home (paying servants wages would become hard in an era where nobility wasn’t expected to fend for themselves, as well as maintaining an residences or even potentially putting food on the table), this would have taken a huge toll on mama Balsa socially—appearance dictated *a lot* as I understand it in Victorian society, and any perception of shabbiness or debts would have slowly closed all social doors for mama Balsa.
And while you’re right, I think Mama Balsa would have had fewer options for recourse (women’s property rights were only reformed historically in a meaningful way for married women after the games would have already started), Luca would have had issues too. The hit to his reputation when word of his father spending all their money would have been difficult to over come even as a man, and would have shut the door for a lot of opportunities (if Herman is so reckless with money why should Luca be trusted? No one likes a scandal). The lack of funds would have made higher schooling difficult if not impossible, if for no reason then they’d be unable to pay for it. It’s no wonder that Luca ran away after his mother died and started using a different name from Herman’s—better to be broke but no one from no where with no baggage than to be broke and the known son of an scandalously irresponsible man.
And none of that’s even touching on the emotional neglect. Luca grew up without a father, and with the knowledge that he would never be as important to his father as his projects. Luca grew up watching doors close for him and his mother as his father spent and spent and spent their money on things he was never around to explain. Luca never got to know Herman, and only felt his absence as the horrible weight of choices he never had any say in. And then those choices killed his mother. No wonder Luca fucking hates him yknow?
And Herman never mentioned anything about his home or family life, so Alva didn’t know. He had no idea their research was being funded with the food from Herman’s sons mouth But Alva’s work for years is implied to be financially dependent on Herman (see Alva’s deductions, with Herman sending Alva funding; Alva, btw, is implied to be very newly middle class in his deductions, and this is already an insane person essay before I get into the class difference between Halva and power differential that would involve) and Herman made sure that Alva felt responsible for his ideas and for supporting Herman emotionally, and made sure he knew that he blamed Alva for his problems in the end. So Herman did just as much of a number on Alva in the exact opposite direction. It’s interesting, and a tragedy, and it’s fascinating how Herman is so directly the cause of both Alva and Luca’s problems, and how that set them up for their own tragedy going forward.
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willnaib · 2 months
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fatherhood is a critical part of leo’s character but would you guys trust me if i said it’s actually motherhood. like walk with me here for a minute. leo beck, comically bad at business management and being the breadwinner for the house and supporting a family but LOVES taking care of little lisa and playing with her and making her toys and making sure she’s happy and comfortable. Walk with me here. In an ideal modern world leo and martha would be t4t where martha is allowed the power and freedom of a man and leo is allowed to have the comfort of being a housewife. Do you understand me
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