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#i would make a what if crowley is controlled by chernabog in the first place theory again but it looks like the levan theory could be true
spindlebeforesunset · 3 months
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Chernabog and Overblot (aka incoherent thoughts)
Chernabog appears in Fantasia along with Yen Sid (literally the shadowy figure we see in the current birthday/Disney 100 background) in two separate pieces
So in TWST Canon, Chernabog exists as a bygone historical figure who is always brought up by Malleus.
Mentions: Dorm Trial Admission in the official website (he refers to himself as Chernabog's descendant) and Malleus' Halloween SR (he would make Chernabog the inspiration of the Diasomnia Halloween costume but knows Lilia would complain).
It got me thinking, because we are still in the Ruler of the Abyss chapter on how the heck is Malleus even expending copious amounts of magic while Overblotting and still visibly not turning into something like the Overblotted dwarf in the prologue. Probably aside from being one of the strongest mages, he has his ancestry in Chernabog to boot.
Chernabog could be the origin of Overblot with how he can guide, control, and reshape phantoms at will (seen in Fantasia) as we can see that all the Overblot phantoms so far are incredibly messed up versions of the OG Disney Villains.
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We have the Dark Mirror commenting on the "shape of your soul" before it says what dorm you belong to.
What if the reason why in TWST these villain phantoms behind the Overblotees are twisted to begin with is because Chernabog reshaped/tampered with their souls during the time of the villains' death.
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pinkpruneclodwolf · 2 years
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OKAY SO------
The two theories i just told you about are actually intertwined in my version but to lay the groundwork I'll talk about the first theory which is Yuu being chernabog's vessel theory.
Okay so for starters Yuu is a separate entity from all the twst cast, not solely just because of the fact that they come from another world/dimension but because unlike the others Yuu is a blank slate. Emphasis on blank. They don't seem to have a will of their own---yes they do have some sort of background (if the vague american references and what not could even count as that) but not a fully fleshed personality. In fact Yuu seems.... like a puppet---a doll, empty. Which makes sense because Yuu is solely a self-indulgent character and yet in a story where its all about development Yuu is very out of place---ominous even, and the idea that mickey is sealed in ramshackle yet---he tries to reach Yuu says something to me. Especially with the idea that Ramshackle is chernabog's base.
So here's what I think---Yuu might have been chosen to go to twst specifically for their personality (or the lack thereof of said personality) because why them out of all the people in the world? If not for the fact that they would be the easiest to control? Because lets face it Yuu is easily influenced/controlled by outside forces which to be fair they have no choice but it makes even more sense when you think that way.
But where does Ace being a traitor play in all this? Well here it is folks. Ace is making sure Yuu doesn't realize their true purpose (essentially trapping them in twst bc i think that yuu can't leave w/o doing something...), as well as the fact that he is also making sure chernabog doesn't get to Yuu either. How?
Smoke and Mirrors. The trick of lying but not lying all the same---because is it really lying when there's truth despite the lies? At least in my spin on Ace being a traitor, Ace has already awoken his UM but is unknowing of it due to Crowley's meddling (the time loop). In a sense Ace is a traitor not only to his own role as a villain but also as a student of nrc but also to Yuu.
But thats my spin anyways what do you think?
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I think of Yuu as someone who was specifically chosen as a conduit of sorts, like they might not have magic but others do despite being chosen in one of the most prestigious mage schools that literally chooses based off of magical aptitude somehow Yuu slipped through the cracks.
Somehow, Mickey is trapped in a mirror with no way out and is relying on dream sequences in order to push Yuu to stop the series of happenings going on in the school.
I'd like to think that Yuu, whether they know it or not, is on a tightrope between good and evil and with Chernabog's base being Ramshackle/Yuu/Grim it makes all the more sense why.
Because it's better to keep something so powerful sealed away but that doesn't mean it's area of influence has died yet.
And the thing with Ace's brother being named Jack of Hearts, with his lack of Unique Magic and how from Chap 5 and Chap 6 Ace has been on the low key lately,,,,,,
Not to mention the time loop, I def see Ace being the main contributors of the time loop simply because he doesn't want Yuu to leave/Grim is too formidable and Yuu continues to die every time Grim OBs,,,,
Not to mention that it's said he's the type to take other ppls tricks/talents, but what else could he take on? What of another character's role/place?
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