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charlie-pippin-faraday · 2 years

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sorry i will not get over how much jonathan byers says during the one scene in 4x08 without saying one single word

will says el told him to do the painting and jonathan’s eyes immediately snap up, because he knows it’s a fucking lie. jonathan knows full well el did not ask him to do that painting. el was wondering what that painting was, wanting to see it. jonathan knows there’s something more to what will is saying.

he goes back to driving for a bit, but then will gets to the part in his monologue where he says to mike that el has been lost without him, which of course catches jonathan’s attention once more, because will is getting suspiciously emotional considering he’s talking about someone else’s feelings.

at that, we see him look up to see his brother on the verge of tears.

And by that point, seeing that face, he definitely knows: will is not talking about el anymore. he may be using el’s name, and while they might be similar to the things she’s feeling, he’s not talking about her. he’s talking about himself. calling himself “different,” thinking that he’s a “mistake” but that mike makes him feel like “not a mistake” and giving him courage to keep going.

and jonathan definitely sees will crying to himself. it cuts directly from a shot of will crying to a shot of jonathan, looking at him in the rearview mirror.

i fully believe that if they hadn’t been in an extremely time-sensitive situation that jonathan would’ve pulled over the van on the side of the road to give will a hug right then and there. like.......he Knows. you can’t look at jonathan’s face right there and tell me that he doesn’t. he knows that will lied about that painting being el’s request, and he can see the raw emotion on will’s face as he pored his heart out to mike, even if he very thinly veiled it as someone else’s feelings. maybe jonathan didn’t get it before, but he certainly does now. there’s understanding in that expression, and definitely a bit of concern for his brother who has just implied that he feels like a “mistake” sometimes for being “different” and who is actively crying in the backseat. he for sure knows the truth. and i expect him to very gently ask him about it and give him some emotional support/comfort next ep. god the expressions here were so good, from both of them, it’s fuckin crazy to me how much i saw from jonathan without him uttering a word

[note: i have not seen the finale episode these are just my judgements from this episode, no one say a goddam word to me on this post about the finale episode]

#i can see the scene now:#jonathan says 'will i know el didn't ask for that painting. what's going on?'#the expressions here were so good thank u charlie heaton #god just...he knows. he fucking Knows #he absolutely 100% knows that will's in love with mike #no doubt in my mind after this #maybe he knew before and maybe he didn't #but the definitely confirmed it for him #and he's definitely worried about his brother's heart #jonathan byers #will byers #stranger things #stranger things lb #stranger things spoilers

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ineffablelvrs · 1 year

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(modern) party hc !! will makes them all pins with their pride flags

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cannibalismyuri · 1 year

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the way nancy says, 'this wasn't the upside down hawkins. this was our hawkins. our home.' something about that reminded me of how beautiful stranger things really is. something about that shows that even though all this town has bought them the last few years is misery and death and gore, its also bought them closer. its their home because of how fucked up its been. they found people who they loved who loved them back in return there, so how could it not be home? some of them yearn for a Before we see very little of, but they can hardly imagine actually going back to this Before, because however much hawkins and the upside down fucked them up, its built them up too. and the upside down will stay with them forever, whether it stays in hawkins or not, but hawkins needs to be there for them to look back on. hawkins needs to stay safe for memories in the future. and even though they were in danger of dying, instead their petals bloomed in adversity.

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uselessnbee · 1 year

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saw my favorite bylers talk about the relationship between Mike and Joyce again and now i just can't stop thinking about it

not just if she saw the airport fiasco but what if she saw the conflict between willelmike

or after they're all finally in hawkins again maybe she saw there's something going on and asked Jonathan and he told her some things he knew he could let her know

and then she comes to Mike and he expects it. he expects her to be angry to start criticising him cause he fucked up and hurts everyone and he knew this was coming but god does it hurt. this is the woman that feels like a second mother to him the woman that sometimes feels more like a mother to him then his actual mom and he knows being criticised by her is going to be the last straw and a part of him is dreading this but a part of him also thinks he deserves this. of course he does he fucked up he's the bad guy he hurt people he hurt her children she loves more than anything of course he deserves this

so he can take it. it will hurt. it will be like a punch in the face but he can take it it's what happens after that's the real question

but Joyce just smiles at him so gently and asks if he's doing okay. if everything is alright if something is going on. she tells him she cares about him and she knows he's been through a lot but if he needs her she's here for him. if he needs to talk she will listen if he just needs someone to be there for him she will be and she's just so caring and gentle and loving to Mike and Mike just. fucking. breaks.

he doesn't even remember when was the last time someone treated him this way like his feelings matter like he matters and he just can't help it. someone finally sees more than his snarkiness. someone finally sees more than him being a jerk. someone finally sees there's something more going on. someone finally sees the pain behind it and cares enough to actually ask him of he's okay and so he just lets himself cry in front of someone for the first time in years

#byler #mike wheeler #joyce byers #mike and joyce #my favorite mother and future son in law relationship to think about #i love to think about Mike seeing Joyce as his second mother and Joyce seeing Mike as if he's her own son #like god this is the kid she saw grow up since he was like 5 this is the boy that made her son so much happier #and i bet she never invalidated his feelings or anything because Joyce would never #and Mike just feeling safe around her and Joyce being one of the few people who never see him as the bad guy because that's Mike #and she only sees him as the kind boy who is always so caring and gentle with her Will #and of course she wants to make sure he's okay and that he knows she's there for him #and how much that must mean to Mike his parents never show interest they always invalidate his feelings and never ask if he's doing okay #they never make him feel safe like he can talk to them but Joyce god she's the exact opposite #she always just shows him care and never makes him feel wrong for just being himself and i'm sobbing now #where is my own Joyce to adopt me please #Also about Jonathan telling Joyce some things no he totally wouldn't out Will or anything #he would say what he knew he could but he doesn't know much about the situation himself #and Joyce totally already knows about Will so it would probably look like #Joyce: i see there's some tension between Mike El and Will is everything alright?#Jonathan: we had to listen to Mike's shitty unhonest love confession to El and it was so bad it got Max killed :/#Joyce:😰#anyways sorry for rambling i just have many thoughts about this #blue's 'Mike's extreme defender' ramblings

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maddy-ferguson · 11 months

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s4 el uses a lot more contractions than the people who write her think she does

#in their fight she literally says but you don't love me anymore you think i'm a monster too #there's nothing to say no you don't everyone looks at me like i'm a monster you can't even write it mike #i rewatched the scene to type this out and eleven you're being ridiculous is just as terrible as it was on the day volume 1 dropped like oh #no...#it's the most fun place in lenora you'll meet them i promise #also rewatched that scene and mike and el are insufferable oh my god will fact checking her is very funny though like great comedic timing #like yeah you can counter this with idk moments with brenner ig #and like i say: brf slt

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jancysmixtape · 2 years

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Jonathan 🤝 El

Being obsessed, and in love, with their partners.

#stranger things season 4 #el hopper #jonathan byers #nancy wheeler #mike wheeler #Jancy #mileven #Jancy and mileven parallels #god i love them so much #so precious #el and Jonathan love Mike and Nancy so much #babies #in love #endgame #jancy is endgame #pro jancy #jancy supremacy #mileven endgame

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whynotimtired · 2 years

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"I need some relationship advice."

"Man you Wheeler's and your relationship issues, you already got both the twins falling all over you what else do you possibly need-" Argyle is cut off with an elbow to the stomach and a pointed look from Jonathan.

Mike furrows his brows, "Twins? What are you talking about? What twins?"

"Yeah man, I would tell you but I just remembered that I really shouldn't. Good luck though, or you're welcome I don't know."

What the fuck?

Mike gaped at him, "Are you high?"

"Listen brochacho, all of you and this and the superpowers and the relationship issues are really stressing me out, so what if I gotta mellow out a bit."

He guesses that's fair, but still-

"Twins, you said I have both twins falling all over me, I don't even know anyone who is a twin so how could that be at all possible?"

"I really don't know what to say man, I can't tell you." Argyle sighs and looks forlornly at the pizza van behind Jonathan's head.

Mike hears a clattering and turns towards the porch.

Will comes rushing out of the front door, out of breath, "Hey guys, have you seen El anywhere?"

"She's in the van."

He grins, "Thanks Jonathan." He jogs to the van and knocks three times, and then two, and then three, and then the door swings open, letting him in.

You can hear their laughter from where he's standing.

"Are they...are they getting high?"

"Who knows man, that's their business."

"It's your weed!"

"What they do is not under my control."

Jonathan laughs, "I mean, Mike if you want to stop them then go ahead, but they haven't had their one-on-one sibling bonding time for like a week. They might kick you in the face."

"Kick me in the face?!"

"Yeah it happened to me once man! Little byers has a brutal kick."

"Will kicked you in the face?!"

"I'm pretty sure he cried after though." Jonathan muses.

"It was totally an accident dude, my face should not have been there."

Mike throws his hands up, "Okay can we go back to me now?"

"Do we have to?"

Jonathan rolls his eyes with a little grin, "Sure Mike, what do you need advice on."

"How do you know that you're in love?"

"Woah, brutal question man."

"You... It's like this, falling in love isn't something you do on purpose, it just happens. Sometimes you don't even realize it's happening until you're already head over heels. It feels like, the most natural thing in the world. Loving itself, is easy. Is it easy to you?"

"That didn't answer my question."

"If you write that down and turn it in to Mr. Darwin he'd probably give you an A."

"Is it easy Mike?"

He huffs, "It feels like it's going to choke me. I feel terrible whenever I'm around her but I love her so much and I don't know why Jonathan."

Argyle leans into Jonathan and whispers loudly, "Get him to think about the other one."

"The other one?!"

"Sorry man, didn't think you'd hear me."

"Listen. Maybe the- the conditions of your relationship are what's making you so unhappy."

A beat. Mike scrunches his face up, "What?"

Argyle, wide eyed, "That makes so much sense."

"You love her right?"

"Yeah I just said I do."

Jonathan sighs, "Don't get defensive Mike, im not accusing you of anything."

He looks down, "Okay, sorry."

"It's fine. You love her, but being with her feels bad. And you feel guilty, upset about it."

Yeah, yeah.

He nods.

"Maybe, you don't love her, like that."

"But she's- she's- perfect. Why wouldn't I love her like that?"

"Maybe you just can't."

He feels suddenly out of breath, "Can't?"

Jonathan puts a hand on his shoulder, "Falling in love isn't something you do on purpose."

Mike's eyes go shiny, "But I do love her."

"Platonic love is not less than. It's just different."

"Different?"

"Yeah, like- like you love Lucas right?"

Mike smiles, "Yeah, he's the best."

"That's what I'm talking about! You would do anything for him, you love him so much, but it's not like that."

He scrunches up his face at even the thought, "Right."

"Right, so-"

Joyce pokes her head out the door, "Hey kiddos, hate to interrupt but have you seen the twins anywhere?"

"Yeah mom, they just went on a walk."

"Okay well, once they come back can everyone come in? Dinner is almost ready."

Jonathan smiles at her as she goes in, "Yeah of course."

"Can't wait Mrs. Byers." Argyle drawls.

Once the door closes Jonathan spins around and heads to the van, the other two close behind.

"Your mom said "the twins."" Mike points out.

"Very observant."

"What do you think is for dinner dude?"

Mike rolls his eyes.

"Probably nothing good, we're at a run down apocalypse cabin." Jonathan knocks on the van.

Will's voice bleeds through, muffled by the doors, "Password?"

It brings Mike straight back to the early days of castle byers, his smile going all soft. Feeling all mushy.

"Mom said that dinners almost ready so you guys gotta air out okay?"

Muffled groaning and then the door slides open to two grinning faces.

Will giggles, "That wasn't the password Jonathan."

He smiles, "Yeah well this is Argyle's van, he gets to make password rules."

"I never even thought of that man, I can have a password to my van?"

"Oh! I found my abba tape under your seat Jonathan!" El shoves it in his face, laughing as he pushes her hand away.

"No!"

"Yes!"

"So, you're telling me we could've been listening to Abba that whole time?"

El's face goes serious, "I know you don't like Abba, Jonathan."

Mike didn't even know she liked Abba.

"Oh yeah?"

"Yeah. Will told me."

"Oh did he." Jonathan mock glares at Will, who sheepishly crosses his arms, "I didn't know you were pretending to like them."

"Actually, they're growing on me."

"Really?!" Will and El ask, a little bewildered and excited, respectfully.

"Wait man, for real?"

Jonathan throws his hands up, exasperated. "Why is that so hard to believe?"

Will shrugs, "No offense Jonathan, but you're kind of pretentious."

"You do not usually like "popular" music." El says, doing overly exaggerated quotations with her fingers.

"I would say mainstream-"

"Oh mainstream! He hates mainstream stuff El." Will grins at her and she looks into his eyes very seriously, "I cannot look that up right now but I believe you."

"I'm not sure that mainstream would be in the dictionary anyway-"

"Well why not?"

Mike pushes his way past Jonathan and Argyle so he's front and center, "Okay, who are the twins?!"

Will and El look at Mike, and then back at each other before erupting into giggles, Will stares into his eyes with a grin, "Us, duh."

"Can't believe you couldn't just figure it out man, I mean what other twins do you know?"

Mike whips his head around to look at him, "I didn't know they were twins that's the point Argyle."

"I mean, we're not actually twins. If you want to get technical. I mean you knew that though. You know everything, I mean- about me, you know everything about me. I mean- not everything, just like. Most things, like if I had a twin or not."

Mike gapes at him.

"Okay I mean obviously you didn't know in this particular situation but-" El covers his mouth mid ramble and giggles into his hair, "It's just Mike."

Will's face flushes bright red.

Mike's eyes go wider.

He shakes himself out of it, a little pink himself, "What don't I know about you?"

Will furrows his brows and takes El's hand away, "What?"

"You said "not everything". What don't I know?"

Will looks at Jonathan for a beat and then absolutely loses it.

El, laughing right along with him, trying to use his body to hold her up while he leans heavily against the van, hunched over. Almost taken to one knee.

"What could possibly be this funny?" Mike asks, giggling at Will, trying to catch his eye.

Will takes a deep breath, giggles spilling out still, and makes eye contact with Mike, almost throwing him straight back into hysteria. "N-nothing, it's- it's really nothing."

El whispers something in his ear and Will collapses, immediately breathless from laughter.

"No, no! Get back up! I need to lean on you." She giggles, pulling at him.

"Wait Will, I dont-"

"KIDS! DINNER!"

Will hops up, "Oh thank god I am so hungry."

"Thank god." El echoes.

"COMING MOM!" Jonathan yells at the house.

They all shuffle up the porch and into the house, but Mike pulls Will behind.

"Mike, I swear I could eat a-"

"I just want to clarify that this conversation isn't finished."

Will blinks at him, "Okay."

"And I don't want to kill your buzz or whatever but I don't like that you're keeping stuff from me."

Will looks at his hands, "Trust me Mike, you won't mind this one staying a secret."

"I will- I- I do."

"Maybe- maybe. I mean, it's been going well so far!" Will grins at him, he can't help but grin back. "What has?"

"Hm?"

Mike laughs, "What's been going well so far?"

"Oh, that doesn't matter right now."

"Will-" He's cut off by the boy throwing himself into his arms.

"I said I wasn't going to hug you until you hugged me first but I just now realized that that was so stupid." Will grips him tighter, falling into him further. Mike has to adjust his stance to stay upright, hugging back just as hard.

"I didn't know you were waiting for me." I would've just done it in the first place.

Will sighs out against his neck, "Long time."

Mike's eyes well up with tears, "Yeah, me too."

Will leans back, "I have to go in there, I just remembered Hopper is back."

Mike pulls him in again, "Just one more minute."

"I really am not complaining but we could do it later," His voice drops to a whisper, "We're pretty high."

Mike laughs quietly into his hair, "Yeah I know."

"Sooo, I can't just leave her in there! Jonathan has Argyle so she's singled out right now!" Will starts wiggling in his grasp.

"Okay, I'll let you go. But just so you know, now that you've given me permission I am going to be ALL over you." Mike smiles.

Will gets a bit of distance between them and then leans his face into Mike's, far closer than they've been in months.

His face flushes and he grins bashfully, glancing down at Mike's lips for a second, "Looking forward to it."

Will spins around and walks in, leaving Mike blinking rapidly on the porch.

Oh.

Both twins.

He smiles wide, feeling a little high himself.

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