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bean-n-shroob · 1 year

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Back again with another analysis of small details i love about Superstar Saga! I got the next two weeks off (cause of vacation) so i may do this more often

Anywho

Before I played the remake, i always assumed this was the scene where Bowser lost his memory, having Tolstar landing on him after getting blasted out of the cannon. The arc Tolstar takes lines up with him landing on Bowser right as they get out of frame

The funny bit is that the remake agrees Bowser lost his memory almost immediately after this scene, except it was a Goomba and not Tolstar

So in a sense... i was right!

Also, I love that you regain your coins that you gave Tolstar after beating him. They could've easily just not programmed that in, like just a cutscene plays, no real money loss, but add that little detail in, and I love it all the more for it.

I find it kinda cute that the two tutorial duos are one of the first Bean citizens who immediately recognize Luigi without resorting to the "who dis" joke everyone else (including Bowser) does

Back to Tolstar, it's interesting that he has no idea who Cackletta is. I guess it makes sense since he's basically a Toll Booth Clerk who scams people out of coins at the edge kf the border lol

Almost done here!

This line I find interesting, why WOULDN'T the Mario Bros come to Beanbean Kingdom? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it is odd pne of the guards would find it hard to believe the Mario Bros have come over :V interesting

I always forget the Hophooligans and the Beanish are separate species pfft! Hoohooligans apparently being the first civilization of the Beanabean Kingdom

Finally, this part reminded me that the remake side mode has Fawful carrying around Bowser's body, which i forgot the purpose for, but I did initially think "hey where's Bowser that you are apparently carrying?"

I completely forgot what reason the remake gave for it

#mod speaks

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4filen0tfound4 · 2 years

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god forbid women do anything i cant even make stew in peace without some hoohooligans RUINING it

Whatever. Poisons you or something

#don’t EAT ME!!! I am tiny and give you no nutriention #ty answers stuff

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arcadetheatre · 7 years

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Longer Post concerning the Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga remake. If you are a fan of the older Mario RPGs, you may want to give this a read.

---BACKGROUND---

So, if you are like me you are probably pretty hyped for the Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga remake that is coming out later this year. Also, if you are like me you probably really dig the older Mario RPGs for their unique takes on otherwise generic Mario characters and enemies. You would also know that Nintendo has been (for some inexplicable reason) running away from this aspect of their RPGs

Instead of having, say, unique characters with vastly different personalities, appearances, and names that are of, say, the Toad race, there are instead just generic copy-and-pasted Toads that SOMETIMES have slight variation. Its like this for the Mushroom Kingdom denizens as well as for Bowser’s minions. Every now and then we get a more unique character, but they are always unique because they are plot relevant. In the older Mario RPGs not only were plot-relevant characters really unique (despite being toads or koopas or what-have-you), but so were the random, non-plot-related NPCs that filled the world.

So now, instead of everything feeling fresh due to the large assortment of unique individuals (even if they are they same race), recent Mario RPGs have followed the formula of copy and pasting generic members of the races and then sometimes throwing in a unique individual every now and then. Even if it’s a brand new race (like the Brocks or Shelltops from the M&L series) they are still just copied and pasted everywhere with only a handful of differing ones and the differing ones really aren’t that differing. If you are like me, you probably think this really sucks.

--- THE SCHISM ---

So, like everyone who enjoys the older Mario RPGs, I was (and still am despite what I will say in this) super excited about the remake of Superstar Saga because of the reasons explained above. Superstar Saga featured both Toads, Bowser’s minions, and new races like the Hoohooligans and Beanish. HOWEVER, unlike the newer Mario RPGs, there was a HUGE variety of all these races. Although there was a limited variety of NPC races, the game kept it fresh by showing a large variety WITHIN these races. And it was absolutely fantastic. It made you want to go out of your way to talk to different NPCs, learn about their stories, and enjoy the RPG to its fullest.

Here are some examples using Superstar Saga.

Note that these sheets are just of the “Generic” citizens (even though they are not generic to each other - ESPECIALLY when compared to recent Mario RPG citizens) there are numerous other “especially unique (more plot-related) characters of the races as well!

Toads

Beanish

and Hoohooligans

Superstar Saga isnt even the best example of this aspect. The early Paper Mario games blow everything out the water when it comes to uniqueness and variety for NPCs!

So you may be thinking right now, “Well its great that Nintendo is remaking Superstar Saga! It will be great to see that aspect of the older RPGs again!”

Well now you shall see why I am upset. I shall show my sadness with VISUALS!

---SADNESS WITH VISUALS---

Royal Chamber Toads no longer get cool capes or SUPER expressive faces!

The Koopa Cruiser staff are no longer pilots with awesome bomber jackets, but just generic koopas!

You thought it was just the Royal Hall Toads that got dumbed-down? Nope! All the Toads in the Castle are generic with only different colored spots!

No more unique outfits, heights, or weights! Call me cynical, but this probably means that the Toads in Little Fungitown all look generic as well - which especially sucks all butt everywhere because that location is supposed to be especially unique being an off-branch of the main Toad race living in the Beanbean Kingdom instead of the Mushroom Kingdom.

Unique Koopa species offshoot that greatly visually represents the outcome of the species originating in the Beanbean Kingdom rather than the Mushroom Kingdom? Naw.

Lets just pallet-swap a regular Troopa and put the leaf on its head! Also, while were at it let’s make the protagonists of the new story just be regular minions with flags on their heads! (at least Private Goomp, Sergeant Guy, and Corporal Paraplonk have been confirmed to make appearances. But, why not use them in the first place?).

--- CONCLUSION ---

Anyway, I know this is a lot of complaining and I AM still happy about the remake in general. However, it is a huge bummer that Nintendo decided to do this in the remake instead of staying true to the original. It may not be instantly noticeable, but this aspect of the Mario RPGs has a HUGE impact on the feel of the games.

We don’t recognize it, but uniqueness of the original NPCs is one of the reasons why the game was so tantalizing. Even if we were not directly acknowledging them, our brains were passively entertained by this sort of thing and it kept everything fresh - We never knew what we were gonna see next! This world felt alive!

We should all still support the remake, as everything else about it is gold. I mean, just look at the images up there - it looks beautiful! By supporting the remake, maybe Nintendo will understand our love for these older Mario RPGs. HOWEVER, I believe that Nintendo should also know exactly WHY we love these older Mario RPGs - and its because of the little things like this.

THE END

#Nintendo #Superstar Saga #mario and Luigi #Paper mario #Super Mario RPG #Bowser's minions #beanbean kingdom #Mushroom Kingdom #Toads #Beanish #Hoohooligans #Important #comparison #remake #3DS #GBA

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boom-fanfic-a-latta · 3 years

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Current Song List (Superstar Saga: The Musical)

(Titles mostly taken from the DX music player when applicable)

A New Adventure Begins [Overture]

We’re Off Again! (Mario, Luigi)

Mario is Everyone’s Star (Mario, Luigi)

Touch of Evil (Toads)

Toad Town Square (Mario, Luigi, Toadsworth, Toads)

Bowser’s Road (Bowser, Koopa Troop)

Border Jump (Mario, Luigi)

The Name is Fawful! (Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Fawful)

Come On! (Mario, Luigi)

Stardust Fields Area 64 (Starshade Bros)

We Can’t Lose! (Mario, Luigi, Tolstar)

Hoohoo Village (Mario, Luigi, Beanish Guards, Hoohooligans, Hammerhead Bros)

Hoohoo Mountain Top (Mario, Luigi, Fawful, Blablanadon)

Prince Peasley (Prince Peasley)

Underground (Mario, Luigi)

Cackletta, the Fiercest Foe (Cackletta)

Château de Chucklehuck/Chucklehuck Woods [Medley] (Mario, Luigi, Cork and Cask, Chuckleroot, Bubbles)

Popple & Rookie (Popple, Rookie)

Castle of Beans (Prince Peasley, Lady Lima, Queen Bean)

Woohoo Hooniversity (Mario, Luigi, Scientists)

Fawful & Cackletta (Mario, Luigi, Fawful, Cackletta)

Popple & Rookie [Reprise] (Mario, Luigi, Popple, Rookie)

Sea...Sea...Sea… (Mario, Luigi, Oho Jee, Fire and Thunder Gods)

The Kingdom Called Beanbean (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Prince Peasley, Beanish)

Don’t Dwell on Danger (Mario, Luigi, Peach)

It’s My Turn (Mario, Luigi, Geno)

Another Sky For Toads/Mario is Everyone’s Star [Reprise] (Luigi, Toads)

Border Jump [Reprise] (Luigi)

Cackletta, the Fiercest Foe [Reprise] (Bowletta)

Sweet Surfin’ (Mario, Luigi, Hermie III)

To Challenge! (Mario, Luigi, Prince Peasley, Ensemble)

Hold the Corny Jokes, Please! (Mario, Luigi, Jojora)

Win & Dance (Mario)

Danger Abounds! (Luigi, Bowletta, Fawful)

Touch of Evil [Reprise] (Beanish)

We’re Off Again! [Reprise] (Peach)

Decisive Battleground (Mario, Luigi)

The Name is Fawful!/Fawful & Cackletta [Reprise] (Fawful)

Cackletta, the Fiercest Foe [Reprise] (Bowletta)

Time to Settle This! (Mario, Luigi, Bowletta)

Showdown With Cackletta! (Mario, Luigi, Cackletta)

Come On! [Reprise] (Mario, Luigi)

Agony (Cackletta)

A Journey Full of Laughs (Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toadsworth, Prince Peasley, Queen Bean, Lady Lima)

Going Home [Bows]

Unused Tracks:

Minigame 1/Jump! (Ground Theme)

Minigame 2/Let’s Kick It Into High Gear!

Minigame 3/Star ‘Stache Smash!

Ghostly Encounter

Professor E. Gadd

All Unused/Beta Tracks

#superstar saga the musical #super mario #superstar saga #mario #luigi #mario & luigi #mario & luigi rpg #mint sings

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dermankey · 4 years

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So, Paper Mario is only allowed to use pre-exsiting Mario characters? Guess it makes sense why they only use Toads now. I mean, what other NPC are they supposed to use? It’s not like they have access to Bob-omb Buddies, Piantas, Nokis, Lumas, Star Bunnies, Honeybees, Gearmos, Penguins, Whittles, Jibberjays, Bonneters, Tostarenans, Lochladies, Steam Gardeners, Bubblainians, Shiverians, Volbonans, New Donkers, Moe-Eyes, Dorries, Yoshis, Beanish, Hoohooligans, Hooskis, Brocks and Pi’illos, all of which were pre-exsiting Mario characters shown off well before Origami King, and even with a three year gap for the Odyssey species, a good number of theses species have been present before Color Splash and even Sticker Star. For reference, anyone from Galaxy 2 or older could have been in Sticker Star.

But that’s just asking for too much, isnt it?

#Super Mario #Paper Mario #Mario

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birthclod · 4 years

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oh the minecart owner dude in superstar saga is hoohooligan? the more you know

#when the cookie crumbles #superstar saga #i never actually thot abt it

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superwolfiestar · 5 years

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Across Another Dimension Ch.26

The gang finally reach the The Hoohoo Mountain which is a tall rocky range of mounts located out of the village's limit, and it's still a very dangerous place today. It is said that an ancient civilization inhabited those mountains, which are the Hoohooligans' ancestors. There were Hooroglyphs inscribed on the rock walls at certain points of the mountain, Hoohooros, a type of weapon, and watering holes. At the very summit lives a talking pterosaur named Blablanadon.

At the very base of the mountain, small beagle gang enemies called themself Beanies already confronted the heroes. After that, they proceeded to the Hoohoo Mountain Trail just east of here. There was a tornado in which they could use as an impulse to get them to the other side faster, and on another part, there was a strange Hoohoo-like flaming statue inside a chasm.

With that, they had to head to one of the watering hole at the platform above and let Panchito drink a lot of this water until he becomes bloated and heavy, more known as Pump Panchito. Once in this form, they make it back to the Fire Statue and Jose does a High Jump on Pump Panchito to cause him to flatten and spit all of the water at once before reverting to normal.

Eventually, the Fire Statue douses, and a mask carved on the wall spits and blows out a whirlwind and they use it again as an impulse.

Almost at the midway, there were the Beagle gang were dress in Dry Bones armor around them patrolling the area and another Fire Statue must be doused to progress. They did the same thing and moved on.

Now at the midway, they encounter a strange golden statue at the middle; that was a Hoohooros. As the heroes approached it, it spoke:

"Ah. Travelers. I am Hoohooros. The ancient weapon of the Hoohoo civilization. Beyond this point, the path grows even crueler. You must prove yourselves up to the challenge… You must catch 10 Hoohoo Spirits within 30 seconds! But do not fall off the ledges, or you will immediately fail."

They completed this challenge with ease without falling off the ledges. They returned to Hoohooros and he said to them:

"…Now for your next challenge. YOU MUST DEFEAT ME!"

Suddenly, Hoohooros becomes gray and attacks, much to the heroes' surprise. Hoohooros shoots a purple laser from his mouth and it travels in an arch passing by each hero. Luckily, all of them dodged the laser. Boy Princess Donald then does a Bomber Attack at Hoohooros followed by Princess Della attacking it with her bomber.

After receiving these attacks, Hoohooros goes under one of the four pillars. Storkules tried to break the pillar it was hiding in, but that only caused him to get sent backwards and landing on the ground hard.

"Ugh!" he groaned.

"That statue attacks us if we try to ambush it!" Prince Gladstone realized.

"Then we should aim for the pillars instead!" Donald suggested.

They alongside Panchito and Jose broke one of the pillars to see if Hoohooros would come back and attack them again. However, it went straight to another pillar instead.

"Oh, come on!" Both Louie and Louie grumbled.

Even if they destroyed the other pillar, Hoohooros still didn't come out of the ground.

"If only we had drilling moves, then we could force it out of the ground." Panchito said.

"In cominnnnnng!" suddenly, a voice was heard from up above and a red rooster wearing a Mexican mariachi to the ground and buries itself, ending it with a feet kick uppercutting Hoohooros out of the ground.

"Hey! It's Panchito!" Scrooge exclaimed.

"Hola a todos, my name is Panchito Romero Miguel Junipero Francisco Quintero González III but you can call me Panchito." Panchito smirked.

"We can talk more later, because we have a statue to take care of!" Donald warned.

"No need to, the Super Caballeros are handling this. Look." Boy Princess pointed at the Super Caballeros.

"Jose! Now that the statue is down, it's our chance to take it out!" Panchito said.

"Right! Let's try the Bounce attack!" Jose replied.

Panchito and Jose did their Bounce attack to defeat Hoohooros for good. Everyone were impressed at this move.

"Wow! Impressive." Panchito praised.

"I know, right? That's why they're called the Super Caballeros!" Princess Della exclaimed.

After its defeat, Hoohooros stands up and speaks its last words:

"You have passed this test, too! Now you must face the test of reaching the summit!"

Eventually, the odd symbols on the rocky pillars ahead lit up and a short ledge popped out of the wall, gaining access to the upper part.

"You know, we wouldn't have passed this challenge if it wasn't for you me." Panchito grinned.

"Yeah! Thanks for the help, Panchito!" Jose thanked.

"No hay problema!" Panchito replied.

“Panchito!” Donald ran to hug his beloved Mexican rooster. “You’re okay! Thank goodness you’re alright. Have you seen Jose?” Donald ask the red rooster.

“No mi amor.” Panchito told him with the sad look, tooling off his sombrero. “Me and Jose were separated when we are in the portal. I don’t know where he is. I hope he’s okay.”

“Don’t worry Panchito. We will find him, I know we will.” Boy Princess Donald place his hand on Panchito shoulder giving him a kind smile.

Panchito was shock to see another duck that look highly resemble to his beloved sailor duck. Expect the part that Donald don’t wear pink ombré eyeshadow and the pink gown.

"Say, Panchito, Jose, where did you learn those moves?" Huey asked.

"We learned them back at Stardust Fields by the Starshade Bros." Panchito explained. "It's also the place where we landed in our way to BeanBean Kingdom to met Prince Gladstone."

"Prince Gladstone?" Panchito questioned.

"That's me. I'm the tourist guide of the Beanbean Kingdom." Prince Gladstone said. "Your name is Panchito, right like that Panchito? What brings you in the Beanbean Kingdom, hmm?"

"I just came here to relax after falling out the portal. I just give myself to relax and came here as a vacation, but now that I heard there's a King Zeus guy threat here, now it just became worse." Panchito explained, rolling his eyes at the last sentence.

"Sheesh, this is now reminding me back what happened on my vacation in Delfino Island all over again…" Panchito thought while tilting his head on the ground.

"I see. Well, it's nice to meet you." Boy Princess Donald replied.

"Para ti también. So, why are you guys here at Hoohoo Mountain?" Panchito asked.

"We're here to get the Green sharp so that Professor Gyro could power up the machine to take us home. Think you could lend us a hand, Panchito? We never know what might be waiting for us up ahead." Donald answered.

"Getting the Green sharp to take us home? Sure! I'll be glad to tag along! Just like old times!" Panchito grinned.

"Great!" Scrooge grinned. "Alright, let's keep moving!

After some more puzzles involving the use of Pump Panchito, riding tornados and battling more enemies like more, Beagles boys, the gang reached the summit, where they found a telescope showing the full lookout of the Kingdom and they could also see Boy Princess Donald's castle at the distance on the other side as well as Stardust Fields separating the Kingdoms, suggesting that the Beanbean Kingdom wasn't too far away from the Mushroom Kingdom besides Vibe Island and Manny's Island.

They noticed that the center of the summit had the Green Sharp on the rock that they needed, but the sharp were all guarded by Blablanadon, who was currently sleeping on top of a weird white egg.

"Are those the green sharp?" Fenton questioned.

"Yes, but shh! We don't want to wake up Blablanadon, right?" Prince Gladstone whispered.

"Blablanadon? Who the heck came up with that name for a pterodactyl?" Panchito thought.

"Look, let's just get the sharp and leave quietly, okay?"

The gang nodded to the green duck and they silently picked up as Green sharp.

"Got it. Let's get out." Dewey said in a quiet voice.

However, Louie's nose was tickling so much by the dust that he had to sneeze:

"ACHOO!"

Everyone flinched in surprise hearing Louie's sneeze and that caused Scrooge to hit rock and landed on the group, waking up Blablanadon.

"FOOOOOOLS!" he cried as he flies up.

"Louie!" Webby, Louie, Both Dewey and Dewey, and Huey and Huey thought angrily.

"You dare take that green sharp! The four hero’s give it to me so I can protect it!!!" Blablanadon argued.

"We know that…" Panchito replied.

"Oh yeah? I'll tell you, anyone who tries to drop a steal it is a thief in my book!"

"Blablanadon, listen, these people are from another dimension and Professor Gyro need to collect all the Rainbow Sharp in order to get them home. Please, have a heart!" Boy Princess told him.

"…Very well then." Blablanadon said. “I should let take the Green Sharp.”

“Oh thank you Blablanadon for your kindness.” Boy Princess Donald smile.

Panchito took out a map and held the map up in the air, and then the lights shined bright from the sharp. The map lowered itself to Panchito as they went to toward him to take a look. A snow mountain popped up in the upper left part of the map as well the villages popped up and even the castle or a fortress and the blue shard popped up as well.

The next one was at the snowy place. That where they need to head at.

#ducktales 2017 #mariotales au #across another dimension #across another dimension fanfic #super caballeros #super caballeros fanfic #fanfic

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