#he has gone through…a lot in life

[oracleact]

I can’t get over the ‘please stop’ button in the corner of the screen in day 4 of ybg (iykyk) because peter just genuinely does care about us so much. I see people often say that fan content is quite ooc since it’s rather soft all the time but peter is soft. in the very middle of his heart, he is truly soft.

it's always been said in canon that peter is huge on consent, especially in sexual situations, despite whatever else he gets up to - but I didn't expect the game to actually have a tap out in that way. it was comfortably in character, and wonderfully incorporated depending on what route you do take to get there. I love peter so much.

due to the game having a horror core of murder and pain in many forms, you do tend to forget sometimes that all peter wants is to take you away from any real life troubles and keep you to himself. he wants to treat you like royalty and have you safe in his arms and is prepared to do anything for that to happen. only then is blood spilled, you know? to me, that’s the perfect yandere.

#he has gone through…a lot in life #he is confused and in pain and forever battling with himself #oracleact chats #oracleact says: younglings avert your eyes! #yb #ybg #your boyfriend game #your boyfriend peter #peter dunbar

[crystal-verse]

god i want. an au where it dosn't work. where it's just arr g'raha who's woken up, and he doesn't have all these memories and all these people keep looking at him like they're mourning someone. the world has changed and time has changed and all the people he knows have changed, but he hasn't changed, he was just sleeping, just sleeping, and the world nearly ended several times and apparently he helped prevent yet another end but he has no memory of this. they want him to join the scions. he does not know these people. (he barely knows the warrior of light, now, but did he ever truly know them in the first place?) his little sister is alive and well. she looks at him like a ghost. she's changed, and she's older than him now. he acts bratty and loud and brash to cover up the fact that he does not know anything it seems, and he is tired but he was sleeping for so long, so how could he be tired?

he doesn't know these people. they seem to know him. he wonders if he'd killed someone, when it was him and not that exarch who woke up. he wonders if it should have been him who was "killed" in that way, if it is him that lives and not that man who had known and become friends with all these figures from legend. he wonders if he'll always be fated to be a historian one step back from everything, because he simply cannot be a hero.

#bound with thread | original posts #letters in verse | talking #g'raha tia #crystal exarch #hello everyone i am being Incredibly Normal about g'raha tia at -checks time- 12:02 am #you ever think about the fact that arr g'raha is basically killed/replaced when the exarch wakes up in 5.3. because i do. a lot #hi i have brainworms over this man he's SO tragic and i need to hold him gently in my hands like how you cradle a small trembling kitten #genuinely happy about his character growth and progression and happy ending and all but arr g'raha was the one who grabbed my focus #and i do miss a lot of that character sometimes yknow? post-shb g'raha isn't the same person as arr g'raha and that's intentional‚ i think‚ #because he has gone through so much that we didn't see. so much trauma and pain because of the 8th umbral era and that loss he got hit with #and he's not the same person because he's *had* to change so much to keep himself and his people alive and i'm glad he's getting to #experience life to the fullest in endwalker onwards but just. i miss arr g'raha yknow #honestly the silliest thing about it is i miss his student of baldesion tattoo. was a fun little design element you know. #show us the tattoo again squeenix. give him back his red eyeshadow that he had. #give him his bow back i am begging #this has been: incomprehensible ramblings from simon at 12 at night

[nocofamilyau]

Is Noah ok? He seemed to be kinda phasing out a lot in the Wayne comic. And I don't think it was just because he's tired

that's just a good mix of guilt and repressed memories. sure the divorce and all that reality tv crap is long past him, but the effects those have on you don't exactly go away overnight. he still gets strung up on how his youth was practically eaten up by tacky D-list stardom just to get a quick paycheck, how that affected how he saw himself, how he treated others then, how shit he made Emma feel when they were together. seeing old faces from (mainly) Total Drama again also kind of brings it all back up (I mean its where it all started so... I mean Cody, Owen, Izzy and Eva are fine but he managed to form a bond with them far beyond that one time they were all on TV together)

he tries not to give as much of a fuck about it now, but from time to time it keeps coming back to him, and add three kids and a full time job onto that and yea, you're not exactly having the best time

(that and I headcanon him as being prone to depression anyways, so...)

#noco family au #thanks for the ask! #like don't get me wrong #he's not ungrateful for the life he has now #he loves it #but like #if something good happens in your life after going through a lot of shit you're not gonna be like #'wow holy shit my problems are all gone now yippee' yknow? #noco lore

[silo1013]

salvaged from the office fire in 1998

#my art #the x files #dana scully #fox mulder #alex krycek #i was talking about this on twitter yesterday but #i have a LOTTTTTT a lot of thought about this part of season two #mainly because i think that while scully probably realized she was never going to find peace ever again after emily #i do believe that the last time mulder ever thought everything would be okay was right before scully’s abduction #which is also kind of why i think mulder was closer to killing himself in ascension than in gethsemane #at the end of season four mulder is kind of resigned to his and scully’s lives unravelling #he’s more suspicious and slower to trust then he ever was #while ascension was the first time he was like. Oh okay. It’s over for us forever and ever #and the fact that he was still open and still kind of okay before that just kind of makes it worse #that he was just betrayed and left hanging and lost everyone he thought he had in one fell swoop #ascension jades the fuck out of him and you can see it. like through the whole series there are threads of it #his tendency to rely on skinner regresses for a while. he becomes even less functional when scully is gone. #he has far less patience for his informants and he refuses to rely on anyone the way he tried to on krycek #like it’s just. such an obvious shift in his character that you can tell his mindset about his and scully’s life has changed #and that’s a huge part of the show’s tragedy i think. ​there is no peace. there is no rest. it’s never going to be okay

[shannonsketches]

Why is the anime so weird, it's not even the same series dude?? It's like,

Anime:

GOKU: I have a great idea to bring peace to the universe, and my leadership and compassion alone will unite us all. I have No Flaws and am A True Relatable Everyman :)

VEGETA: NO! I AM THE BEST AND I WILL CAUSE PROBLEMS UNTIL I AM RECOGNIZED AS SUCH!!!!

Manga:

GOKU: Vegeta what's cornmeal made of? I know it's what the corn eats, but what's it made of? VEGETA: Hey Kakarot let's play the quiet game until one of us dies.

#silly hours #I do not understand this writing it's so bad aklsdlkasjd #Toei wants Goku to be Clark Kent SO bad and he SO isn't lmao #they're so good and dumb and rounded and complex in the manga what is the anime so afraid of #Toriyama said 'no no this man is a detached faux-immortal who has a dear pure heart but he's childlike and selfish even though he's kind' #and toei went 'got it goku's never done anything wrong ever in his life' #toriyama said 'Vegeta's gone through a lot and he's finally settling into his more mature leadership role with the confidence he's earned' #and toei said 'got it vegeta has the confidence of a high school bully except now he can interact with his family as a comedy bit' #girl hWHAT #Toei trying to group Goku and Vegeta as two people who would rather train than be with their families and Toriyama said NO Vegeta wants #to be HOME this is the first time in years that he's HAD ONE and it makes him HAPPY to be with his wife and children!! #Vegeta trains so that he can protect the things he doesn't want to lose again and Goku trains because it's the thing that makes him happies #They are NOT the same lmao And yeah Vegeta still wants to beat Goku but he also knows that Gohan could dogwalk both of them if he wanted #He also knows Trunks and Goten are going to surpass them it's not about being the best anymore he's past that he just wants to Not Need Gok #He just doesn't want to have to rely on Goku to save the day he wants to be Enough on his own he just wants to know he can be #because every time it's mattered he WASN'T and people he loved were lost to his inability to protect them and he carries that #Like Whis diagnosed him with anxiety and cptsd out in the open and Beerus said he was self-centered for feeling guilt #+ he lowkey enjoys the rivalry it keeps him goal-oriented so he can't get complacent and lazy which is what triggered his Buu Saga breakdow #realized how Fucked Up it was that having a home and loving family made him feel like he was failing and went 'wait no I won actually??' #now he's chill as fuck in the manga. cool confident leader. #and sometimes he is childish and dumb with Goku as a treat #you know what rocks about his rivalry with Goku in Super though is that it's Playful. Vegeta is learning how to Play. #You ever seen a shelter dog get introduced to a really playful dog and it takes a minute for the shelter dog to understand it's safe here #And then they're both running around the backyard playing hot potato with one braincell?? That's Goku and Vegeta's relationship #and the way the anime sleeps on that dynamic is so fucking criminal especially when it's literally canon it's in print it's out there #you had the playbook how'd you fumble it this bad #anyway that's my 25+ year blorbo thoughts I love Geets a lot okay #And I love Goku in the manga a lot I'd forgotten that he's actually a great character when Toei's not fucking up his whole vibe

[imagionary]

Chief Chatter (Al Smiles) ref!

He was made as an Office Clown by Dizzie Izzie to do stand up comedy for toons and cogs (kinda like something they could all laugh at/with to get along with each other) at an underground comedy club, but ran away from it all after not feeling appreciated/like a real person

#Al has gone through many different aliases in his life #he's run away over and over trying to escape his Dizzie Izzie past and Skinner past specifically #her last job as a telemarketer for 10 years was the most stability they've ever had in their life #he's glad that he went off to COGS.INC for a more fulfilling job though #Al lore and colors finally!! Yippee!! #Al struggles with identity a lot but always tries to be happy through it #it loves to make people laugh and be happy #ttcc #toontown corporate clash #toontown: corporate clash #imagionary rambles #ttcc au #al smiles #chief chatter #tim les'jokes #office clown #please don't refer to Al by their old name or position! it makes him nervous xD #ttcc oc

[danmeichael]

see chu wanning was an engineering major who started in that field because he genuinely wanted to do things to make the world better. mo ran has an engineering minor because he thinks professor chu wanning, teaching the engineering course, is hot but he would in fact be a business major because he actually doesn't give a fuck about any other person on earth.

#2ha #erha #mo ran #chu wanning #sorry tumblr user pio for using your post as a jumping off point #mo ran is nice but not kind #chu wanning is kind but not nice #do you understand the vision #idk maybe he gets nicer but he ruins the life of a random woman he never talked to (from her perspective) #because she was kind of mean after he forced her into marriage on threat of death #none of which she has technically done or remembers doing when he ruins her life #which he does AFTER he has gone through a lot of character development and become at least the second best version of himself.

[milflewis]

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#in a strange place today and i need to put this somewhere. i do not have a journal yet. this is it #my grandad was diagnosed with dementia years ago and the grandad i have now is often unrecognisable from the one i grew up with #and while this like isn’t fun and it is strange for him to look at me and not know me more times than he does. it has also been kind of l #lovely? #bc he thinks my granny is still alive so whenever i get to go see him i get to pretend she is too. and she is for a minute. and tho i am #glad she went before him. it is nice to say oh i’m popping in to see her after this grandad and talk about her like she’s hasn’t been gone #since i’ve been ten. my dad has spoken more to him in the last five years than he has his whole life #he was not an easy man. he was loud and friendly and hard working and funny and scary but not easy. in ways he is even #harder now. in others he is easier. #he is more of a child. this is what dementia can do to a brain. we are learning things about his childhood that no one alive has ever spoken #about. that no one knew. my dad doesn’t love him more now but he understands him better #my grandad taught me how to drive a tractor and how to fish through my dad and he has not recognised me in over a year and he #hasn’t walked since he broke his pelvis seven years ago and his muscles are nearly all gone. he is a fraction of the size he used to be. his #personality and body took up my childhood like adults on the screen in cartoons. he hasn’t dressed himself in a decade. he told one of the #nurses that after dinner he wanted ice cream plain like herself and nearly peed when she laughed and told him to fuck off #he is in there. he is himself. i know him. but he isn’t. he doesn’t know me but he allows me to tell him how to ppl he knows are doing. he #still somehow trusts me. we talk a lot about my granny and how she stayed up watching tv again last night so she’s tired today. don’t stay #long when you call in to see her? #whenever we would journey to see him and my granny and get in v late he’d ask us if we wanted apple tart and my granny would say michael. #not ur kids. u can’t parent them. he didn’t know my name yesterday but he asked me if i wanted apple tart #i hope he dies soon. for all that i will miss this. miss my dad having this. he would not want to live like this. it wouldntbe living to him

[kyuala]

SOOOOOO hard to go through everyday life trying to ignore the never-ending feeling that im just irreparably fucked up and therefore should just give up on everything

#this aint exactly s******* but it aint exactly not s******* either #anyways it gets even harder when i have to live under the same roof as my brother who is so much better than me in every single conceivable #and imaginable way possible like #and i knowwww a LOT of it comes down to us having relatively similar yet wildly different lives despite being 1.5y apart and having the sam #family our entire lives like he has gone through NOTHING and i mean not a single societal issue ive had to face and endure my entire life #he's a man im a woman. he's white im black. he's straight im gay. he's skinny ive always been 'overweight'. he's always been the good #christian kid ive always had issues w faith and religion. he's never been mentally ill i was clinically depressed for nearly 8yrs of my lif #we both lost the same parent and im the only one who got pathological grief and a personality disorder out of it. he's had a great job for #the last 7yrs that now pays him 20k+ every month ive only had 3 odd jobs my entire life and 2 of those my MOTHER had to give me so i would #have SOMETHING and ive never made over 1.6k monthly n my last job was minimum wage only #he's had like 4 relationships and is nearly engaged im so traumatized + emotionally unavailable ive only ever been on 1 date my entire life #he has a good relationship w every family member we have i have Issues w like half the family. he's always been an active member of our #church i can barely listen to like 4 traditional hymns before i start losing my mind and spiraling. i think the only two ways we're pretty #much equal like socially is that we're both able bodied cis and christians but still the cis and christian thing is debatable for previousl #stated reasons so like. do yall see how much better he is doing than me in every little last area in life and how he's always gotten the #long straw when it comes to Not having to deal w certain obstacles in life. n i know its like yea idk what it actually is like to be him an #he could not be doing all that well first of all shut up. second of all if it was 1 or 2 things i'd get it but it's literally EVERYTHING #and i know bc of said things n our v different lives it's unfair to me to compare the two of us but then it begs the question: WHY #WHY did i have to go through these things. WHY do i have to deal w this. WHY did i get the short straw literally every goddamn time #WHY did i have to get THIS life like WHYYYYY why ME GOD. why have I had to put up w all this bullshit for 24 fucking years!!!!!!!!! im TIRE #and this is not me hating or resenting him i know it's not his fault and he is so good to me #but still. why was i left with these things? to live like this? #so yes i guess i do envy him a little bit. who wouldn't #mari.txt #personal #tw negative #dl #btw i do NOT mean some identities are better than others. i mean he is better and is doing better than me in life partially bc he's never #had to deal w certain social issues and obstacles that come w oppressed identities.

[llitchilitchi]

oh bless I can finally delete my twitter account

#litchi.txt #/j #on a more serious note I just finished watching the video #wont be posting about it other than this #its great to see him compile stuff like this #I am proud of how well he delivered everything? like honestly wow #its messed up to see everything hes gone through compiled into 82 minutes #glad that its out there in such a well done manner #(also the editing was great. i know this is a serious video but I was laughing a lot thru it) #Im excited to see things might go back to normal? #Im glad he called out certain people #this was just. yes. #and I am so incredibly grateful that hes leaving tweeter #like holy shit I am so glad and if I see people whining about it I will hunt them down for their kneecaps #dont have anything else to say other than what everyone else has said already #but please lets not freak out even more #lets just. be calm. and enjoy life. and move on. and Be Normal just like he asked us to

[nightswatchdisbandmentera]

Might be a hot take but a major character’s death is really only as good as the weight and the treatment that the narrative gives it. Sure, any author has the ability to write death as they see fit. But whether the consumer (of any given form of media) is actually able to emotionally connect and resonate with the departure of someone who has occupied a good chunk of narrative space very heavily depends on how it’s treated within the story. If it’s a major character, the narrative needs enough built-in breathing space. As in, the consumer doesn’t have to fill in the blanks as to how the death impacted the plot or the remaining characters. Let the narrative do that for them, and that would actually allow the consumer to better react and relate to that major death (sadness, anger, joy, etc). Allow the rest of the characters (who were impacted by the deceased) to react to their parting. Let them engage with the death in a manner that helps justify the character’s inclusion in the narrative to begin with. Make it clear how the character’s life and (especially) their death relate to the larger themes of the story. Because most consumers aren’t stupid. We don’t want our hands held at every waking moment, but we also don’t want our investment in a story to be insulted just for the sake of a cheap shock. Give us time to breathe and grieve. And respect that we have put in a lot of emotional investment in a story and its characters, and we deserve to have that acknowledged.

#recent developments in a very popular ip have forced me to think about how creators treat the deaths of major or main characters #and the discourse of ~ohh we don’t need to see every single thing~ has got me thinking #like sure we don’t need to be spoon fed everything but consumers have varying emotional investments depending on the characters #a side character it’s passable if we don’t get any fanfare but a MAIN??? #we’ve invested so much into their journey and the themes in their arcs and how they affect the world around them #is it too bad to want that to be actually acknowledged by & within the narrative? #so that whole thing got me to think about main characters whose deaths were well done in fiction #ned stark imo is a really good one because the immediate payoff of his death is the start of the wot5k and long term effect was #that the stark kids now had to fill in their father’s shoes and rise and become leaders in their own right and while we still have twow an #ados we can also tell as shown in adwd that the long term effect of Ned’s legacy is that house stark will be preserved even when it’s on th #brink of extinction #so that’s a well done imo because we also see throughout 4 books just how much his death meant to the kids #his death hurts because we see how his kids are hurting - jon arya sansa bran are GOING THROUGH IT AND IT HURTS! #I’d argue MCU did a pretty good job of showing tony’s everlasting legacy after his death and they did that through Peter who was the proteg #we can love and grieve for tony though peter whom we love and have come to relate to so Tony’s death has a lot of narrative weight #and how it’s handled is satisfying even though we’re hurt that he’s gone #same with sirius and dumbledore in HP - sirius’ especially hits sooo hard because Harry goes absolutely apeshit in ootp and then has to #pick up the pieces in hbp + dumbledore’s life and death is given quite a good amount of narrative space for both harry and the reader #the recent developments in jjk have me worried that a certain someone’s departure won’t be given the narrative weight it deserves #and part of that is gege’s pacing being wonky because oops it’s another big fight that will take god knows how many chapters idk #I’ll wait and see but as of right now….i feel like fan complaints about it shouldn’t be brushed aside because they’re super valid 😕 #asoiaf #harry potter #jujutsu kaisen #mcu #marvel #comics #manga

[lesbiancolumbo]

#not tagging this so i can do this: #my favorite headcanon about ajb is that he is actually deeply insecure about money and status and the idea of talent #and the script + john's performance backs this up #he recoils from jenifer when she mentions his wife's money! he LAUGHS UNCOMFORTABLY! #janice mentions that alex gets the shakes after every concert. the SHAKES. not beforehand. but after when the accolades come #i think he grew up with not a lot of money and a real chip on his shoulder #and i think he has gone through most of his life convinced he is an imposter and no one notices how dead inside he is #janice probably thought he was the most talented person in the whole world and made him feel special. so he kept her around #doesn't hurt that her mommy was rich! and then jenny #oh jenny...... she looked right into his soul and went wow you hate yourself too huh #tortured artist self hating genius. and alex went oh you're almost right there..... he couldn't stand that either #meanwhile columbo looks at alex and goes oh he's just a lonely man huh #because everyone else claims to know alex. but columbo Was alex. but he did something about it. #which is why HE is the genius and alex is just a gay idiot loser who got car head from the lieutenant and then went to jail

[spotsupstuff]

Read the snippet *cries*

That last writing with Tarrow is beautiful. In my mind was playing Farewell by Bernth and is was a struggle to not cry in public.

I just fell in love with Orion! I love his gentleness, how he just want to give comfort and just AHHHHHH!! That last paragraph just with the hope that Tarrow will see the family that still has is just gets me.

On the side note (and to laugh a little after that beautiful mini story), Crows still is a background character.

OOOOO hey i know that song!!! yeah i can imagine how that'd make it hard to exist in public with some dignity JGDLKJLCMKSL

hah, another Iterator found a way to worm its way into your heart JGKSLLCKMLKS stars, same- the gentleness but also in the contrast of what he's gone through, what that kindness and sweetness had to endure. and he's stern and strict and some would call him a little scary when he talks to them like to some soldiers- promising that if this time around (in the off string au) someone will be caught neglecting their responsibilities like some have done with Mission Self-preservation he will be able to deal with them Personally this time. Notos won't be the only thing they'll have to worry about now. and sometimes he's a little insensitive as a result of that trauma, too. but ultimately? oh gods, ultimately he only wants everyone to be okay and taken care of as they deserve

GSLJKMCKLS fucking Crows.... leave it to the One og character i have in Moon's group to do me a favor and stay as she is meant to be

#spot says stuff #rw #oc tag #i kno i say that all itties are sibs to me but like... i cant help but keep thinkin that the gen 1s keep tapping a lot into parental roles #heavens know boreas is kinda unapologetic about it. he doesnt say it but he Is a dad figure to euros notos n haboob. and he takes somewhat- #-some pride in that role. when it comes to sparrows he was kinda like that to her too in her og life but there was always some kind of- #-divide between them. it wasnt all that complete. orion takes a note of tarrows yearning for family and starts kind of looking for the- #-similarities of traits that an organic family is supposed to offer to a child and what the iterators can offer just by being themselves #like obviously the southern winds fill the little sisters role. sporadic p seamlessly takes on the role of a mom with her endless fussing- #-n care. fish Kind of taps into the role of a dad often but he isnt the type that can offer the certain... physical protection #n whats interesting here is that logically! orion fills that real well right? physical protection guidance in the physical n dangerous worl #yet he cant seem to see himself in such a place to her. hes a gen 1 he does have the parent feel! He was the one who guided all of the- #-groups iterators into life proper after they were turned online he was there to welcome them not zeph or boreas. Everyone has gone through #-orions hands like this except the anemoi. and *still* he cant. cant do that for tarrows #because hes so *deathly* afraid that he will approach her like a soldier rather than a person who needs to be handled a lil like a kid #he often does so already! unintentionally but he does n that cant be good for her!!!!!!! #so when tarrows n boreas finally make up n clear some things between each other when bee slides into the role of a dad subconsciously- #-n starts looking after tarrows as he Shouldve from the begining orion just goes 'oh thank gods. holy fuck. phew...'

[skeletons-in-ur-closet]

its just not fair that my mom has to be completely dependent on me 100% when im barely 20 years old

#vent in the tags if u dont wanan read #its not FAIRRRR dude #for context my mom has literally never had a job. ever in her life. she met my dad shortly after hs and she was completely dependent on him #now hes gone and she has literally nothing to her name (my dad didnt have a lot put away) so now shes dependent on me n my brother #but its just not fair bc she had literally 30 years to get her life together and she just??? chose not to??? #now suddenly im responsible for all her bad decisions while she gets to coast her way through life like she ALWAYS HAS??? #she wasnt even a good mother to me yet i gotta bend over backwards to accommodate to her feelings??? #we've gotten into so many arguments about this and shes always like 'ur making me feel guilty :(' YOU SHOULD BE!!!! #it just baffles me that she HAD so so so many opportunities to get her shit together and she just never ever took them #how is she not embarrassed #and shes constantly calling me lazy...mf i am a full time college student and work 30+ hours a week to pay YOUR BILLS #i dont even know what to do bc we have an actively bad relationship but i dont wanna throw her out

[tvslashers]

my dad gave me a journal for Xmas and i just opened it to use it for the first time and he left a lettter in it ;_; i obv won’t say all the details (very personal) but the part that got me most was he said “im proud of your strength to accept who you are” like whoaaa oh my god

#people don’t say it often but yeah it does take a lot of strength to be yourself unapologetically… #the acknowledgement of it from my own dad though… #sometimes i feel like he could never have a clue the pain i go through and have gone through being trans/gay/disabled #but this is proof he pays attention and #sees it not as me being sensitive when hateful people get to me but seeing me as strong for existing anyway #my dad has messed up a lot of things in my life but im so grateful that he’s getting better and i know he loves me #even if he wasn’t a good dad for most of my childhood #what happens when kids have kids. I’ve moved on from being angry at him for the most part

[thebirdandhersong]

"Life is filled with such terrible joy. What happens, happens, and then we are gone" and that's what I didn't enjoy del Toro's Pinocchio

#there's a lot more i think i want to SAY about why this whole theme bothered me so much but i'm too tired to say it #del toro just has a special brand of macabre melancholia that i personally think leans too close to despair #it's too much of meaningless! meaningless! everything is meaningless! without the revelation at the end of ecclesiastes #that the response to that is to act justly love mercy and walk humbly with God. that you take the gift of life with gratitude #like. what happens happens. yes. but he paints it in a way that is just so hollow #and then we are gone. no dude we're not!! and it still MATTERS what we do in this life #anyway i'm not articulating this the way i want to but it didn't sit well with me #there probably is something meangful del toro is getting at with the theme of questioning authority and doing what you're told #just because you've been told to however it does make sense in his universe #because there are very few good authorities and pinocchio literally sees that there isn't an afterlife. just nothingness after death #anyway my father didn't even make it halfway through the movie before he was like nope this is too del toro for me i'm out #and honestly he's very valid for that. i should've stopped but i didn't know that the movie was going to take this trajectory #songbird again