#ghost fantheory

[historian-crown]

Ok we all saw this one and in all honesty: This could mean anything. But it made me think again: what is going to happen next story wise. My brain jumped around while listening to a few songs and now i have the theory that both "Terzo resurracted" and "Copia Antichrist" could be true. Let me explain:

It really hit me today after listening to "hunters moon" again. I am aware that the song is a movie soundtrack, but what if it is more. It is part of the standart album after all. So why not look at it from a ghost storytelling standpoint.

The lyrics are pretty clear "Undead person comming back for an "old friend" and hunting them down". This could easily be Terzo who got resurected and wants to revenge himself and his brothers. "My memories are fading" He is loosing his sense of self in the prozess. Still he remembers who he was and who did take that away from him. He starts hunting down Copia since Terzo is convinced he is behind all of this. Who else would it be? He did profit out of it. He became papa. He has to be the one responsible and he has to P A Y.

In his rage undead Terzo wants the man who took his life to suffer. Now we have a few options this could go including "loosing his head" cause Terzo did so as well, but what would be most poetic would be giving Copia the most unsatanic death ever...a crucifixion. Shaming him by the kind of death christian martyrs prayed for (i am not joking, just look up the history of jesuits in japan, some of them went there just to fucking die).

To put a timeline on this: Terzo comming back for real would be teased before the summer tour. The tour itself would be played by Copia until the last song at the last show. Copia would be taken captive by a new version of ghouls (i do not say they swap the people in the band, but they might get new personas). Terzo walks on stage and the band starts to play hunters moon or square hammer.

The crucifixion would be a youtube video most likely. Not sure how far they would go in depicting that, but i have a vivid image in my mind where copia is upside down on the cross and terzo is tapping his head 3 times with a black square hammer (cause the christian one used for the popes is white).

Here sister imperator comes into play. We know by now that she is Copias mother. Like this is not even a theory anymore she almost said in that one facetime video (Take care now, i love you, i like you,...you know the one) that she is his mother, so this is clearly canon. She might be standing next to this scene, holding back tears. She stays there after everybody else leaves and when finally alone she kneels down beside the cross with her her dead baby boy nailed to it and just starts to cry like holy mary did at the crucifixion of jesus. Difference is that she ofc is not holding his feet but his head since he is upside down.

Now we are in a new Terzo era with a new album, maybe even 2 since i think this era could be around 3 years long. Why 3 years? Well it took christ 3 days to come back....maybe it takes the antichrist 3 years. Tobias might hint him comming back over and over again in small details. Nothing huge, just normal stuff like hitting us more and more with the fact that the antichrist is near (smaaaaaall stuff ya know).

Anyways, 3 years later Copia, now with horns and other stuff that tell us he is the true born son of satan, overthrows Terzo again. Here the song "witch image" comes into play. Terzo at some point starts to realise who Copia really is before he comes back (Maybe seestor tells or he gets it ln his own). The lyrics of "Witch image" now tell the story of Terzos biggest fear. He does not want his time to be over. Never want him to appear, but Copia is closer then he thinks. Terzo can now not undo what he has done to Copia. Also the "someones flesh is rotting tonight" part makes me think of Copia draining the life energy out of Terzo. He is undead after all and most likely the energy that keeps Terzo alive cones from the devil himself? Why would the devil feed the murderer of the antichrist? Well easy, Copia needed to die to be awakend to his final form.

Maybe that also explains the last part of the song "But like a mother would save her own child from digging a grave" Seestor knew all along who her child was and that all of this needed to happen. That is why she did nothing against Terzo in the first place. She knew, she knew all along and let Terzo think he won when in reality he is just a tool in satans game to awaken the antichrist.

Copia now reenters the plot, riding in on a pale white horse, to finally end not only the reign of the undead, but also end humanity as the manifested beast.... whoms mark he btw already has on his chest aka the 666 "tattoo" we know about. And all of this just because Terzo came back to kill him.

Thank you for comming to my TED talk

#the band ghost #theory #ghost fantheory #fantheory #terzo comming back #copia antichrist #hunters moon #square hammer #witch image #tobias forge #ghost bc #emeritus iii #emeritus iv #terzo #copia #popia #cardinal copia #sister imperator #marry on a cross #kiss the go goat

[emma-d-klutz]

You know, I feel like Batman is really into riddles and solving them. So he actually low key enjoys the hell out of whatever utterly convoluted games Nygma sets up. However, they also involve property destruction and putting people's lives at risk so he has to be like….

Now you've gotten me started.

I see it as so much more ridiculous than just that. Batman loves puzzles and mysteries and trivia, so he should be having fun. However, he is on the job doing Batman hours, so he must dedicate his time to stopping threats which endanger people, and he does not have time for any distractions from this very important work. They only serve to irritate him and slow him down. So he ignores the Riddler's stuff until Eddie goes, "Do I need to kill people for you to come play riddles? Because I will kill people if you will come play riddles. I can get a bomb collar within the hour, fucko." You're either ignored or you're thrown in Arkham, and he never stays for the lobstar; there's no winning with this guy! He's not friendly no matter what, even if you're offering to help.

Bruce can't have intricate fun. He's Batman. He's on the clock. He's got three other violent rogues actively terrorizing different boroughs and three more planning a team up somewhere. Oh shit two of the former group met in the middle, and now Harvey's gang is shooting in the fucking street! "Bluebird, come in. Evacuate everything below 112th and... what do you mean you're busy with Punchline? What's she doing?"

If only they weren't frenemies at best with loads of identity stuff and bad blood in the way, I think Eddie could've just publicly abducted Bruce Wayne from Gotham Fashion Week and thrown him in a death maze (with the tacit understanding that nothing he does here gets out), and both of them would have a funtastic time. They should invent the most convoluted board game to ever exist together and play it in a basement sometime. They can have the upstairs bugged. They can multitask. They can talk to each other in their own little codes. The amount of times Riddler opens the door for them to infodump to each other that the big, brooding Bat just will never take... tragic. If only he had got him in his off hours. His down time. If only they had that sort of trust. If only he had asked Bruce Wayne, found mostly asleep and delirious faceplanted in a Belgian waffle at the Gotham Majestic Diner, about the hound symbolism in S3E12 of the old 70s Grey Ghost tv show and how it ties into the infamous H fantheory.

They are the bestest buddies that never were to me.

#in complete contrast to our scarecrow talk #writing all this reminds me of the teen bruce au fics i plsnned out and then didnt write #after the posted harvey one there was going to be an eddie one #in which eddie really wants to be friends with that creepy guy who is the only person close to as into ciphers as he is #but his attempts dont really work and they never stayed in touch and both of them pretty much forgot about meeting each other #and then adult eddie is going through lazurus pit madness and he's like 'motherfUCKER--' #wow i really dont shut up do i? thabk you miss anthory for the ask and for listening

[bambi-kinos]

Please release details about the cons that weird bluefox person tried to pull off - in case they come back again

It looks like Fox was trying to monetize a conspiracy theory similar to The JohnLock Conspiracy (TJLC) and andythanfiction/Victoria Bitter's "psychic channeling" cult. What these two things have in common was how they had "gatekeepers" (aka the TJLC blog, Thanfiction) who doled out interesting fantheories and developed cults of personality by trying to convince people that they were "the truth."

Andy Thanfiction in particular was in Harry Potter and LOTR fandom "channeling" fictional characters from an astral plane where he convinced gullible teens that he was actually Frodo/Harry/whoever and that his cult members needed to give him money so he could keep doing "psychic work" to save the characters from Voldemort or whoever. Fox did the exact same thing when they were acting like "John Lennon's ghost" was talking to them while simultaneously pushing their patreon.

Fox acted differently depending on who they were with, they were much more guarded with others (calling it "the possibility" that John was given electroshock) whereas with me and a few others they acted much more credulous. Look at how they used code breaking as a psychological lure trying to draw me in: "its a puzzle, don't you want to solve it with me?" My personal belief is that Fox was trying to manipulate people into joining the Patreon and then make them a kind of community where Fox was the center receiving regular cash deposits, similar to Andy.

ARGs do this all the time, I played ilovebees for Halo 2 which used similar psychological bait to get our attention.

#f fox north #john lennon #abluefoxinthewildwood #abluefoxinawildwood #talktalktalk

[onewomancitadel]

On the other hand (weak drama aside and my punching bag bad fantheory aside as well), one of the things I wonder about fandom is how many people who silently have different opinions aren't engaging so you just get a warped perception of what people believe at large. I guess my one wild hope is that my blog is a small reprieve for similarly-minded individuals, making fun of bad fantheories notwithstanding.

Like, once a bad fantheory becomes 'the' thing, or one particular interpretation becomes the fanon (dreaded thing) - Emerald is definitely involved in Cinder's redemption/Pyrrha's ghost is/Ruby is Prince Charming, whatever - how are you supposed to challenge that? Lol? Especially when ideally fandom is about expressing your ideas but also you want to fit in to a community and then also like, you know, you want attention and you want community and you want to be seen. Can you be seen if you disagree? Whether it's a Tumblr thing or a Reddit thing (get downvoted lol) or a Discord server thing (yuck), it's all the same stuff.

Now I would hate if I became that which I hated. That would be boring and stupid. But equally like, as absolutely insane and unreasonable Pyre theory is, it's not like every single person is a bad person for liking it (I have never said that) and once it becomes a popular thing, it's a popular thing. *shrug* Surely that's how you could make Jaune/Cinder work? Makes sense, too, if it's hard to figure out how to smush them together, and yeah maybe that weird interaction in V5 was just a product of subconscious jealousy and not anything that was like, material product of their characters interacting. The latter is hard to reason because why would they write Jaune and Cinder being weird about each other? Surely it has to have some other justification? Bad reincarnating fantheory it is.

It's just the ongoing hilarity for me because I view Jaune/Cinder as the simplest and easiest solution out of all Cindemption theories. Enemies to lovers romance baby

#anti pyre theory #stirring the pot

[otakunoculture]

Picking Away At What Makes Ghostbusters Frozen Empire's World Building Right and A Fan Theory for Part Three

#Ghostbusters Frozen Empire has a lot of stuff packed in, and I break down what I liked, disliked and have a #fantheory for the next part. And no, it's not about Staypuft! #moviereview #ghosts

Spoiler Alert Ghostbusters Frozen Empire is a satisfying continuation of Phoebe Spengler’s (Mckenna Grace) coming of age tale. Although she’s ready to continue the family legacy after learning about her grandfather’s exploits, not everyone agrees. Her new father, Gary (Paul Rudd), has to set boundaries and when he grounds her for other reasons, she’s ready to lash out. Nobody understands her,…

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#Comedy #Dan Aykroyd #Ernie Hudson #Ghostbusters #Horror #Kumail Nanjiani #McKenna Grace #Parenting #Patton Oswalt #Paul Rudd

[ramonahblog]

Me: Hates crossovers with a passion

Also me: hehe Trevor is totally (one of) Julian’s illegitimate son. I saw that 1 post and it is 100% right. 

#cbs ghosts #bbc ghosts #fantheory

[therealvinelle]

The illustrious then-@keerka, who now goes by @troquantary, sent me the following ask. Tumblr, of course, ate it, but luckily for us all I store all my asks on an outside server, so it wasn’t lost.

(A moment of silence for the fact that I took so long to answer this one that the ask was eaten and the asker got a new blog in the meantime.)

This was the ask:

Hi! When you have time, I'd love to hear more about your thoughts on the worldbuilding in Twilight and its logical consistency (if that's not too vague a question to even pose). For me it's almost hard to assess because the canon universe feels very...sparse? Kind of undeveloped? But that also means more room to develop headcanons, so I'm not complaining. Curious to know what you think, though!

This is my answer:

I think I’ll divide my answer in two sections, first I’ll give you an example of a franchise that has poor worldbuilding, then get into my thoughts on Meyer’s worldbuilding.

Supernatural.

Low-hanging fruit, but all the better an example for it. 

Supernatural introduces us to a world where everything is real. Everything that goes bump in the night, every myth and every monster, it’s all real, and 99% of them are out to hurt people. Who will stand against this evil, you may ask? Why, a scruffy but all-American bunch of self-declared hunters. These people are not organized, in fact most of them work alone. They are all outlaws. Their expertise is questionable, as Bobby Singer is considered remarkable for the fact that he usually knows what something is.

That’s it.

These people, all of them independent, most of them weird as fuck, are it. You’re in 21st century America, your country wields the most formidable military force in the world, and if something supernatural is wreaking havoc in your town you’d best hope one of these hunter nutjobs happens to have spotted the right newspaper clipping.

We’re offered no explanation as to why the American government doesn’t know about the supernatural, or why the world doesn’t look completely different. In our world, people don’t believe in ghosts because ghosts aren’t real, but in the world of Supernatural, people don’t believe in ghosts because [footage not found].

There’s no demon nor government conspiracy to keep the world at large ignorant, in fact this subject is never broached.

Hunters would make sense if they were bountyhunters, but they’re not. The secrecy could make sense if the angels were behind it, but they’re not.

“Maybe the military does know!” you might say, “it’s just that they don’t let the hunters know they know!” Well, we would have found out in season 5. Dean and Sam were caught up in the apocalypse, the government would definitely have gotten involved with that one.

Then we have the fact that the supernatural entities aren’t internally consistent either. We have angels, demons, humans - good, got it. I know what these three are in relation to each other. But, wait, we have wendigos, banshees, ghosts, witches, vampires, and tricksters as well. How do they all fit into the same world? How does the Christian God and every pagan pantheon, both of which are canon per Supernatural, fit into the same world? Who knows? Not Supernatural.

Supernatural is a world that is written on an episode-to-episode basis, by writers who wanted that gritty bounty-hunter aesthetic for their show about supernatural marks.

Back to Twilight.

Twilight, by comparison, makes a great deal of sense to me. 

I’ll admit that some of this is me reading into the text a lot, but I do that with every fandom I’m in. Twilight is a rare one where I can find an answer to every question.

We have these insanely powerful vampires whose exploits leave no survivors and whose numbers are kept low because it’s so hard to create a new one. They’re kept in line by a powerful organization no one can fight, and new laws are created as Aro discovers new threats (Immortal children, his debate on what to do with Renesmée). There are at least two other supernatural species out there, but of the two mentioned one is in place to protect humans, and the other was run extinct by the very organization that keeps vampires in line as well. None of this is fantheory, this is canon as Meyer created it.

Of course, I’ve gone some strange places in guessing why the Volturi exist, why the world of Twilight looks the same as ours, and why the supernatural world appears so limited. However, all of these things are extrapolated from canon. And I can extrapolate very easily because Twilight canon is consistent.

And this here segues into section two of my reply to you, as I imagine you (and many others reading this) are now saying “It’s not solid worldbuilding if the fans are doing all the work!”

Well, again - the difference between her and a lot of other authors is that when I overthink her work I find satisfying answers. That’s not a given, for instance I can’t do that with GRRM’s A Song and Ice and Fire, and half the point of that series is the worldbuilding! (My complains are many, I had to cut them from this meta, but the big one: why don’t the peasants revolt?)

I can’t think of a single plot hole in Twilight, nor of a logical inconsistency. Something either makes sense right off the bat, or I can look a little closer and easily piece together a logical explanation.

More, there’s no excess. I suppose this is what others don’t like about Meyer’s worldbuilding, but I enjoy it. Characters don’t prattle fun facts about things that ultimately don’t matter to the story, and if they do then it turns out later that yes, it did matter. Quite notably, when Carlisle gives Bella a crash course on vampire history, Meyer skips all of it except the part about immortal children, because that’s what was important. Later in that same book we meet Amun and the Romanians, and learn what the world used to be like, so it’s not like Meyer hadn’t come up with it. She left it out because it would have been off-topic and meandering.

This is where Meyer’s approach to worldbuilding comes in. It seems to me that she created the people and the story first, and then let the world they lived in fall into place around them, rather than the other way around. Now, there’s no right way to worldbuild, but I personally prefer authors who do it this way. To my tastes it generally leads to better stories, as this kind of author will show you the world through the story. We discover it as we go along and it becomes relevant to our characters, and if we don’t learn everything about it then that’s fine, though we’ve been given enough clues to guess. Consistency is key in this.

By contrast, authors who do it the other way around and build the world in full detail first, usually end up with worse stories. They get lost in their worldbuilding more often than not, their worlds end up so complex they’re inconsistent, and the story gets off-topic. Too much worldbuilding distracts from the story while adding nothing.

(There are of course exceptions to both, and I have more thoughts on this, but overall this has been my experience with fiction. Too much worldbuilding is in fact too much.)

The world should always serve the story, not the other way around.

(Again gonna use GRRM as an example. I don’t give a fuck about Aragorn’s tax policy. It’s not important to the story.)

So, these are my rambly thoughts on how I think.

There’s also the fact that, judging by Twilight and The Host, Meyer is just plain good at worldbuilding. She gets very good ideas, and she’s intelligent enough to successfully implement them into a story (look to Supernatural for an un-intelligent way of impleneting good ideas). And that’s all I ask.

#long post #it's getting long and late so we're hitting post #twilight worldbuilding #troquantary #twilight #twilight meta #twilight renaissance #a song of ice and fire #supernatural

[ppsyndromepod]

Episode 34: Casper

Don't let this be your unfinished business. Help us explore Whipstaff Manor and discover the secrets it hides, as we go through our episode on Casper (1995).

Topics Include:

Plans for The Land Before Time Series.

Alex cringes at shaking Polaroids.

Movie Commentaries

Naming our Manor.

We don't deserve Rick Moranis.

Ariana cannot give 2 fucks about Malcolm in the Middle.

Our favorite Fast and the Furious movie.

Were Phat Farm shoes for boys or girls?

Alex is added the FBI watch list after some super sus comments.

Flea Circus?

The 90s love for transmorphic references and jokes.

Alex's message to his family if he should ever die.

Alex's beef with Charlie from 2005's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

*Fact Check* There are only 10,000 species of ants.

How often Ariana had to change schools.

The Covina Christmas Eve Massacre @ 26:08

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/morbid-a-true-crime-podcast/id1379959217?i=1000460436746

Why Casper doesn't look like Devon Sawa

Reddit User Jacob_Wallace

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a35264916/casper-ghosts-theory/

Casper is Horrifying Theory

https://amp.reddit.com/r/FanTheories/comments/2tdx1f/casper_is_fucking_horrifying/

Casper the Friendly Ghost - Little Richard

Teenage Dirtbag - Wheatus

Bidi Bidi Bom Bom - Selena

I'm On A Boat - Loney Island

Remember Me This Way - Jordan Hill

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#casper 1995 #casper #christina ricci #bill pullman #devon sawa #90's movies #90's films #90's nostalgia #90's babies #gen y #millennials #movie review #movie review podcast #film review #film review podcast #the peter pan syndrome podcast #ppsyndromepod

[elellan]

11,18,20 for the da ask please!

Hi! Thanks for the ask!!:)

Here goes,

11. Top 5 favourite female companions?

Only 5?! Anyways, Merril, Morrigan, Cassandra, Aveline and Leliana!

18. Favourite villain?

Like I said, Meredith I think. Though I like Calpernia too, but I always side with the mages, so, what do I know!

20. Favourite fantheory?

I dare say that my favourite above all is the 'Leliana is fake' theory. I love it. Leliana lyrium ghost gives such a creepish touch to everything!

#ask #dragon age ask

[dafukdidiwatch]

Troll Rank 2.0

Shit I can’t believe that it took me this long to realize this, I now have the ability to make a NEW TROLL RANK. New Trolls, New Rank, let’s get this on!

1. Alpha-Jegus

2. Anti-Jegus

3. Meenah

Honorable Mentions:

Librarian

This really shouldn’t be that surprising. Alpha-Jegus is a fangirl, super sweet, lovely, kind, polite while trying to be firm, knowledgable, and just overall pleasent to talk to. I still am fearing if there are big secrets that she has, but she is overall a gem to read.

Anti-Jegus is in my opinion all of the negative traits of Karkat without any to balance them out. His apathy makes his statements funny, and while I don’t like the idea of him just 100% wanting to kill Alpha-Jegus, I do like how he is also a snark master and also HATES Cal the Bad Juju. He is someone who knows how to handle shit (even if it is historical chat-logs and fantheories), so he is cool. For now.

Meenah scares me. I don’t know what her deal is, but she is terrifying. At least with Anti-Jegus he seems to be well rounded and actually able to express other emotions. Meenah has one default: Murder. Like, I guess she is hunting in the ghost realm because there is nothing better to do, but she needs to dial it down WAY BACK. She actually reminds me a bit (tiny bit) of Vriska, so I will keep some hope up for her, but I doubt it.

Librarian gets an honorable mention. I mean, I could put her on the list, but that would be heavily fueled by my belief of what “Not-Vriska” would act like, which would be unfair to both people. So once I get an actual conversation from her, then she will be on the list.

So those are my thought of the Alpha-Trolls that we know of. Be prepared for more to be added in (hopefully). This new rank will ONLY be for the Alpha-Trolls. I am not going to card-shuffle the Beta-Trolls into this, way too much work. Maybe later, not right now.

#dafukblog #homestuck #act6 int2 #hs227 #troll rank #troll rank2.0

[earcontact]

Describe each of the PCs' blogs, and what they usually blog about

im love u 

I’m on the computer now so I can do things like put shit under a read more and tag things

Zey: it depends on the universe. zeys typically a lot more of like a youtube/snapchat/instagram gal, she likes taking and sharing pictures and seeing other peoples pictures, her tumblr is reserved almost entirely for crossblogging from her other accounts and 4 interacting w her fans and interacting w the content the other pcs make, if she does reblog anything beyond like stuff she herself made or that people made for her, its all humor things, jokes, she doesnt get a lot of tumblrs humor but there is still some humor she does get, so if it makes her laugh, she reblogs it, and she also reblogs music, espeically original music, that she likes, which her fans then see and make popular, hence why she reblogs it to begin w

Sylvia: i tink sylvia would b like zey in that her tumblr is mostly 2 keep tabs on the other people in her community, especially the other pcs, her blogs mostly empty but she likes her friends personal posts with near religious dedication. 

Rekmid: rekmid doesnt know how 2 do most things w computers but she loves her friends and wants 2 support them and keep tabs on them, so she makes a tumblr. her theme is still the default but zey showed her how to change her icon and its of rokgor. she posts a lot, but like, complete non sequiters that dont have 2 do with anything and have zero context like “what the fuck was with that guy” and “go team *insert 10 emojis here*” which team? no one knows. also likes her friends posts with near religious dedication, often reblogs and leaves a comment in the post itself. also leaves comments in the post itself for e v e r y reblog, she’s the mutual youre embarrassed for, please, someone teach her how to tumblr propeerly, reblogs so many different things, animals, her friends posts, signal boost posts, infromational posts

Dana: shitposts, shitposts s o o o o o much, and then like dives into seriousness when she reblogs and writes an essay pointing out flaws and inaccuracies in some like, historical or faux-informational post, and then the op reblogs hre essay w an essay of their own and she just reblogs with ‘lol’ or something similar, she doesn’t care t h a t much

Gwyn: has like a sideblog, off of one of thea’s dummy accounts (because thea would have fucking dummy accounts) and like, her blog’s a ghost town, but she always seems 2 be lurking w that like and empathetic emojis

Thea: does she have a blog? she has the tumblr app downloaded, gwyn’s confirmed she does have a tumblr, but no one knows what it is, what’s on it, anything. she has dummy accounts that she sometimes queues posts at for like 4:15 in the morning, and no other time, but her r e a l blog is a fandom blog where she goes on in essays about classpecting that is Very Serious. just kidding about the very serious thing, shes a fucking nerd and runs like 4 different blogs, like shes got a pure multifandom and an aesthetic blog and a classpecting (or fantheory) blog and a blog she uses to absolutely t r o l l everyone else, but especially rekmid (dana is left alone, but once one of dana’s essay reblogs was from one of thea’s posts and thea spent like half the night in a panic because she thought she’d properly fact checked everything. but dana just like demolished her arguement and logic. she never respons)

CURI: very cute aethetics blog, has a minimalist theme and like 0 text posts beyond reblogging like, self help/mental health posts, is that person who’s always like “I’m here if my followers need anything!!”, does actually get a few anons who need to vent, handles it very well, but always stresses that she isnt a replacement for actual medical help or therapy (”though i soon will be qualified!”)

#adventure in maulmart #tentativethalamus

[deevolutionisreal]

Come Back Jonee

This post originally appeared on de-evolution.band

Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - Track 9 - Come Back Jonee

Chris: Alright, we are talking Come back Jonee in 3. 2. 1. Now!

Jon: Let me say that the end of slap your mammy sets this up really well, first off. Whole album, insanely good with transitions.

Chris: Yeah absolutely. Continuing the sequencing streak.

Jon: Also this beat kinda prefigures Whip It.

Chris: Ha yeah you're right.

Jon: Manic western vibes.

Chris: It's got a lot of swing. Very dancable. You bop to this.

Jon: You've seen the video for this one right? The boys going apeshit in cowboy outfits at like, a bowling alley?

Chris: Haha yep. With a big crowd.

Jon: I also love the peppy tone and sad lyrics. like the crashing into a semi part. Also lol @ the datsun namecheck.

Chris: Yeahhhh. The lyrics are a bit of a departure for this album, since they're telling a story.

Jon: True! More narrative, less doctrine.

Chris: Yeah, paint a weird, sad picture, and drop it in.

Jon: For some reason as a teenager I thought they were singing about a (coded) JFK ?

Chris: Haha. That's incredible.

Jon: I don't see many actual reasons for this. But I like it. r/FanTheories.

Chris: But isn't that the core of JFK theories?

Jon: He made her cry / got killed on a roadway. "Her" being "all the ladies, who loved that suave man" Or, Jackie.

Chris: Damn.

Jon: Idk. you can make anything work I guess. If you stretch.

Chris: Stop making me a believer! The ending of this song is so triumphant. You feel like dancing with joy haha.

Jon: Hell yeah. I'm not gonna lie, the last two songs of the album are my least fave for some reason.

Chris: But the lyrics are like, "fuck you, you're dancing at death, you monster"

Jon: After all this straight-up excellence we get what feel like b-sides. Maybe that's to let you down easy. Calm you down before you go back to your life.

Chris: Are you saying that come back jonee is more a b-side, or the two tracks following this one are b-side-y?

Jon: The next two songs.

Chris: Yeah, I'd agree.

Jon: Jonee is Grade A.

Chris: Yeah. Really fun tune that sneaks up on you.

Jon: Absolutely.

Chris: It's like it's waiting for you to pay attention, but doesn't care if you don't.

Jon: Yeah I can see that. I feel like this album makes for surprisingly good background music if you don't have the attention span to focus on it.

Chris: Yeah.

Jon: (Maybe we can blame Eno again for that, what with his Ambient music ethos and whatnot)

Chris: Haha yeah good point.

Jon: (or I'm just grasping at straws. grasp grasp)

Chris: But the point is well taken. The album works both in the background and paying attention. Which is not an easy feat.

Jon: Definitely not easy.

Chris: Kind of magic in a bottle.

Jon: Haha I hope our discussions of future albums don't sound so sycophantic.

Chris: Hahaha. Yeah, we're being real devo shills right now.

Jon: What jury would convict us though.

Chris: Exactly! A victimless crime!

Jon: Unimpeachable. Can't impeach this album.

Chris: That you can't.

Jon: It can erase tapes all it wants. Sleep with interns. No impeachment.

Chris: Lolol. Except lets impeach it a little bit on the next two songs.

Jon: Haha yes.

Jon: I feel more flippant than usual today. Blaming caffeine for my hacky tasteless jokes.

Chris: Then drink more coffee!

Jon: Feel free to edit as needed for wokeness.

Chris: I don't think you're crossing any lines. Says the straight white dude.

Jon: I feel like Jerry would tsk-tsk us for even worrying. Gotta get in the no-fucks mindzone for these reviews.

Chris: Haha oh yeah.

Jon: To honor them.

Chris: He'd roll his eyes and show his dick.

Jon: Jesus I TOLD you I saw it once, right? At central park?

Jon: His dick flopped out.

Chris: Yeah! Wtf.

Jon: Okay phew. Just checking. I wasn't even mad. Extremely strong move for post-9/11 america. In 2004 we needed that.

Chris: Yeah, as you told it, it was at a show, and it "wardrobe malfunction"-ed? And he did an, "Oops, silly me," look?

Jon: Yeah, their under-jumpsuit clothes weren't adequate. But I have a feeling Jerry was like, "Welp, guess it's dick time now," once it happened. It was during the jump-up-and-down or jog-in-place choreography bits.

Chris: Right, right.

Jon: My friend Anthony remembers better than me. "It was POINTING," he always exclaims. Dude was in a good place that night.

Chris: Haha. Half chubbing for the crowd.

Jon: I wonder if there was a backstage discussion afterward.

Chris: Lol.

Jon: Mark: "Look... I do the Rugrats music now, man. C'mon."

Chris: Haha. But it could be just as likely that the conversasation after was, "so…pizza?"

Jon: Haha truth. No way was that anywhere near their wildest or raunchiest show. Anyway wanna move on to sloppy?

Chris: Yeah, now that we've covered the ghost of Jerry's dick, let's move on.

Jon: (crosses self) amen.

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