#gen v commentary

[neshatriumphs]

Okay. I will admit to sometimes missing things or waiting to see if a story is unwinding a certain way, so maybe I missed it, but did we receive some storytelling that indicated that Cate did more to the core group than wiped their memories?

Because she threw Rufus under the bus for wiping their minds, and that's all we heard her say that he did, but a lot of commentary has been that Cate was making them party and kiss and like... I don't narratively understand why she would do that or what's making people think she did all that.

I don't think she lied about what Rufus did to her. We know he's capable, and it would make him the perfect Patsy. I don't think she forced them to attend party or get wasted or makeout. That just seems like part of partying after she wiped their minds.

Jordan and Marie was making out earlier that night before she ever touched them, so like.. I don't think she would have to push that. Her, Jordan and Andre are drugs people, so they could easily decide to go to a party if they have no idea that they had something else important to do. And Marie is a little bit of a follower when it comes to them.

From a storytelling point, maybe I'm giving too much credit to the writers, but it wouldn't really make sense for the personality they're revealing of Cate to do all that when she could just wipe their minds and bring them to a party.

Wiping their minds is bad enough, but the rest of it would be utterly unnecessary and do what for her motivations? I'm not saying it's not possible, but it wouldn't make sense to me, and I didn't see anything to make it make sense to me, yet.

#gen v spoilers #gen v #gen v commentary #cate dunlap

[realbeefman]

gen v is a prime example of shows that in no way need to include romantic subplots but for some reason do… while i am thoroughly enjoying the Aftermath of the Polycule (cate/andre’s relationship) WHY are jordan and marie hooking up? do they even like each other? marie has a more well-developed relationship with like. literally every single other member of the cast besides jordan. it feels like they reached episode four and went FUCK WE FORGOT TO EXPLAIN WHY JORDAN AND MARIE ARE IN THE SAME GROUP fuckin uhhhh they can be making out in the dorm! they had like 3 conversations and all of a sudden they both like each other? this is semi believable for jordan (as they don’t seem to have a personality yet outside of being genderfluid and wanting to be a hero) but for marie this is a really strange twist on her character… hoping they explain it more in further episodes. as it is it’s just. strange and out of nowhere

#i NEVER wldve pegged jordan as a romantic interest #if anything i was seeing a little spark between marie and emma… #but marie doesnt even seem to be a character interested in romantic relationships? homegirl is trying to figure out how to have FRIENDships #let alone a romantic interest #also the guy who plays male!jordan is shit. btw. in my humble opinion #he doesn’t deliver the lines with the same nuance as female!jordan does #there’s no chemistry between male!jordan and marie but there is some between female!jordan and marie #i genuinely think id probably like the ship more if they were both played by fem jordan although i acknowledge that that isnt The Point ofit #IDK!!! #ramblings #overall j like the show so far… HUGE fan of marie. she is so fucking cool #gen v spoilers #gen v #gen v commentary #gen v 1x05 #commentary

[chocolatepot]

Me a couple of days ago: I don't love it when people do the "she should have murdered more people" thing, why can't we meow-meow-ify female characters like we do male ones and put them in h/c situations?

Me after watching Gen V: Kate should have killed more people actually

#tbh I don't think the worldbuilding is solid and the morality is incoherent as it is with The Boys #but when I saw Kate's mom opening the door of her bedroom vault I was just like I WOULD KILL FOR HER SHE DESERVES TO KILL FOR HERSELF #fr I would like to see the show deal more with the issue of the parents giving their kids compound v #rather than rushing to more conspiracy shit #and I find it difficult to believe that they would ALL go into either crimefighting or entertainment ... #like I get the commentary they're doing but I think some of them would turn out to be good people who have useful skills #for something like Doctors Without Borders #anyway Emma should also kill some people too but she doesn't want to and I respect that #gen v #gen v spoilers #I guess

[zacksnydered]

the boys no longer being satire…ooh youre losing me

#i think the next season with either make it or break it #cos i really dont care for gen v #which isnt a commentary on the writing production or anything #i just dont care

[frosthidden]

okay finale alice thoughts

alice 100% did not go undercover at god u because she knew/found out about the woods in any way. she went because they were certain vought was doing SOMETHING funky at their superhero school because why wouldn't they be. she managed to stay pretty much out of trouble until cate, sam and the kids from the woods started killing people and then alice noped the fuck out of there. she's not the heroic type so she definitely wouldn't have tried to stop them. as far as anyone at god u knows, leah dawson disappeared in the commotion. maybe she's dead, maybe she just decided she wanted nothing to do with the place after that.

alice left campus and doesn't come back as leah. whether she comes back when butcher investigates the woods has yet to be seen and will probably be plot based until s4 comes out and i can solidify that. that being said, she knows the truth about what happened and that marie, jordan, andre and emma were trying to stop cate and sam.

#gen v spoilers #hiding the boys from olivia < 3 #a wealth of wasted ability . . . [ META & COMMENTARY ]* #in pursuit of higher education . . . [ VERSE x gen v s1 ]*

[teamlarl]

“Oh, Arc... You have not aged as gracefully as I have. Take a shower. Get a trim. Wash your clothes. You must reek.”

#;muse commentary #;renatus #v; next gen (101 to 117 PW) #rwby spoilers

[penseesauvage]

Finished The Boys season 1 wohooo 🥳

#it was really great ! #I love their social commentary #looking forward for the next seasons + gen v #the boys #tv shows

[cryingforcrocodiles]

TWO REDS! 🟥

weston mckennie & cesar montes!

#gen & live footy #commentary box guy hey #usa v mex

[johanna-swann]

Seeing Jordan (a genderfluid character with, among other powers, the ability to shapeshift) being in a queer relationship (partially wlw presenting) in superhero show with clever humor and sharp social commentary (Gen V/the Boys) makes me sooo happy I stopped watching Loki.

#the boys #gen v #jordan li

[vampyre-rat]

douchebags watching the boys (a show dripping with political and social commentary that is literally the central premise of the entire show):

“fuck yeah!! this is some good shit!!”

those same douchebags watching gen v (same themes and messages as the boys but the main characters are college students):

“ugh what is this snowflake woke crap bullshit!!! boy am i glad the boys doesnt have any of this cringe social commentary garbage”

#rat rambles :3 #the boys #gen v #like BROOOO #IF YOU WERENT JACKING IT TO HOMELANDER FOR TWO SECONDS #MAYBE YOU WOULDA NOTICED SOME OF THE SHIT HAPPENING ON THE SCREEN

[wayward-dreamer]

Some of my thoughts on Gen V that no one asked for but I have to express myself somewhere lol...

I'm really loving the show so far!!!

I had been excited to see what it was going to be leading up to its release, but I will admit I was apprehensive as well. Spin-offs have been subject to a lot of scrutiny of late considering those and reboots are Hollywood’s favorite kind of media to create in recent years, and I was worried that this show would just try to cash into the success of the mothership, The Boys, but I really do think it stands on its own. It feels fresh and has its own social commentary on serious issues that are authentic to this show and don’t just feel like borrowed ideas from The Boys.

We have characters dealing with some pretty heavy stuff (self-harm, eating disorders, gender and identity and A LOT of other things) but I love that even though their powers are physical manifestations of those issues, they still use their powers for good and want to be actual heroes. Which they are. This show, unlike the mothership, is actually a superhero show without feeding into the oversaturation we’re experiencing with all the comic stuff right now.

So why is this show the ‘superhero’ show?

Well, because it’s dealing with a younger cast of characters that want to do good despite the exposure to Vought and its overbearing marketing strategy of The Seven. They all talk about wanting to be apart of The Seven and wanting to be powerful, that they’re “made of steel” and can handle that life, but as they get further into the plot of this show and its mystery, they realize that Godolkin University is not the place they believed it to be. It’s most definitely not a safe space for them to thrive, to borrow a line from the show. These characters might have powers, but they’re nowhere close to being like the supes we know from The Boys. The minute they feel something’s off about the school after Luke dies, they start risking their lives and their futures at God U in order to find out the truth.

What’s something we’ve seen happen time and time again on The Boys? Whenever something happens at Vought tower, The Seven does everything they can to protect that thing from becoming public, they cover things up or go after the person that’s threatening to expose them.

The characters in Gen V do the exact opposite. They’re doing everything they can to find out what’s going on at God U with The Woods, and Sam, and why Luke/Golden Boy did what he did. In many ways, despite their powers, they are ‘the boys’ of this show. They’re basically doing what Butcher, Hughie, MM, Frenchie and Kimiko would do if they found out something was wrong at the university.

The Boys is the authority (Vought and The Seven) looking down, and being able to see what’s going on in the outside world. The supes are selfish and choose to look out for themselves rather than care about the people that adore them (with a few exceptions like Annie and Maeve). Gen V is the youth looking up, completely unaware of what actually goes on in that tower other than the franchising and marketing of the supes, learning to be selfless and wanting to help each other as they form bonds and closer relationships.

And I fucking LOVE that!

It’s two sides of the spectrum, it’s nuanced, it’s so completely original. Yes, there are references to supes like Homelander, Maeve, A-Train and The Deep. We’ve even met a few others like Polarity and Tek Knight (FINALLY!!!). That has to happen in order to build this world out and create a space for Gen V to exist in, but it still feels like even if you didn’t watch The Boys you could easily watch this. It has its own loveable characters, its own intrigue and mystery, and has its own things to say about the world.

I absolutely adore Emma with every inch of my heart. I love Jordan as well, they’re such an amazing character. I’m really loving Cate’s story, and I don’t think she’ll become completely evil. She’s a product of the corrupt system, and she’s being manipulated to do things by Dean Shetty just like Vought has manipulated so many in the past. I really think she’ll come around considering she’s been remorseful about her actions the whole time. I sort of had a feeling that this would happen with her. A character with the power to get people to do whatever she says by her touch? Yeah, she’s definitely going to be used as a pawn. While I did think this would happen early on, it still didn’t feel predictable, and a lot of people were very surprised by her turn, so I’m glad about that.

I do of course love Marie, but she's the main character so we're immediately positioned to like her haha. I think she and Annie have a lot of similarities, especially in the first episodes of each show.

I think the only character I don’t feel a solid connection to yet is Andre. I really want them to do more with him, because he’s damn powerful and capable of a lot more than they’ve given him to do. Hopefully his character picks up in the next 3 episodes.

Dr. Cardosa mentioned he’s perfecting the V to turn it into a control device. Considering everything that’s happened with Homelander, with Annie quitting The Seven, Vought is losing its grip on the supes and they need something like this to keep them in line. So I think that’s what will come into play in season 4 of The Boys.

I’m really excited to see what happens next and how they end this season. I really hope they get confirmed for season 2, because I think the writers’ room was already being hired before the strike. So let’s see what happens with that!

Also quick ship talk! Jordan and Marie supremacy, I love them! I love Sam and Emma as well, they're ridiculously adorable. Not really feeling Cate/Andre but it really is just a coping mechanism for them I believe, I don't see it going anywhere.

P.S. Can we speculate about who Marie's benefactor is?!?!

I think it's Victoria Neuman. We've seen from the og trailers that she's got a cameo, so I'm sticking to that guess.

Fuck I love this universe so much!!

#gen v #gen v spoilers #gen v amazon #the boys

[uh-velkommen]

More Thoughts On Gen V:

Mental Health:

I've been watching some reviews on the show and I think one thing that constantly gets overlooked is the conversation around Mental Health. Initially it's Emma who is the purger, her ED is linked to her powers (or so she thinks). Then we learn that its more so about her feeling small, being made to think she is unworthy or nothing. Marie is a self-harmer, whether or not you see it that way, she needs to hurt herself in order to use her powers (for now). It could go one of two ways, she hurts herself and then excuses it as "using her powers" (much like Emma) or it's just a bad habit that is subconsciously linked to her emotions (again, like Emma) and I don't think we'll get a clear answer on that until the next season within The Boys - Cinematic Universe (TBCU). But just think about how many times we see her cut to use her powers in the height of a negative emotion versus when she uses them through other means. Most important of all though: The fact that everyone in The Woods who was given Compound V, has a mental illness or disorder. We know this because Dean Shetty, who runs the thing, talks about her experience as a Phycologist and Sam quite literally has Schizophrenia. She chose to experiment with these children in particular because who would want mentally unstable kids with super powers running around? These kids, to her and the rest of the world, are disposable. They are dangerous, until controlled. Now think about Emma and Marie, aren't they dangerous? Well, no, because their illnesses are "hidden." And it's a perfect commentary on how we talk about mental illnesses today. Everyone wants to raise awareness about mental health until they're met with an illness that has potential to villainize the person who has it.

Gender Queerness:

I love Jordan Li! I think the backstory, having them be Chinese and their Dad sharing how proud he was to have given birth to a son where gender preferences with children is still such a hot topic in Chinese culture, was a brilliant move. I think about how if Jordan had never been given Compound V, they probably still would've experienced issues with their gender identity. The Compound V gave them a gift. (I like to think that Compound V only emphasizes something within the individual, like with Emma and her almond mom or the invisible dude and his perviness but I haven't seen enough evidence to prove this canon). And when Jordan and Marie got together I was so happy to see a Lesbian Protagonist double POC interracial relationship on steroids, except whenever they were together, Boy Jordan would appear and I got mad at the show for being heteronormative. But once again, TBCU came through and gave Jordan the opportunity to talk about how they feel like they have to be a boy for Marie, opening the floor for that conversation to happen between the two sometime in the future. It's a point on having to perform to make other people comfortable. The last thing was something I didn't even notice until Marie pointed out, was how Jordan always turns into a boy when they want to be heard or when they need authority. It's a beautiful note on how aware Jordan is of the privileges that come with passing as a boy. Jordan works with the patriarchy even if not fully intentional. It's the inherent entitlement that is instilled in men and the cultural influences that queer people have to actively unlearn in order to fully be themselves. (Also I feel like I made some poor word choices in the last bit. I'm not anti-men, just couldn't think of another way to say it😅)

Racism:

This part is so simple yet it didn't click in my brain until just now. Throughout the entire show we are being fed the idea that Vought could not have too many POC in the spotlight at once. There's no way a bigender Asian kid could be number one. We can only have one Black person in The Seven at a time. But we're watching this show under the guise that we will get a happy ending. The good guys are going to win this... Did you forget what show you were watching too? Homelander shows up at the end and we think the fighting will stop, until he damn near uses a slur at Marie. The NEW Guardians of Godolkin are two blonde-haired, blue-eyed, do-gooders and we realize that the finale had been foreshadowed the entire time: The minorities can never come on top.

#Gen V #The Boys #TBCU

[shatar-aethelwynn]

“Most High, or “‘Elyon,” is a formal title of El, the senior god who presided over the divine council in the Ugaritic literature of ancient Canaan. The reference thus invokes, as do other biblical texts, the Near Eastern convention of a pantheon of gods ruled by the chief deity (Pss. 82.1; 89.6-8). Israelite authors regularly applied El’s title to Israel’s God (Gen. 14.18-22; Num. 24.16; Pss 46.5;47.3). In relation to Israel’s numbers is unintelligible as it stands. The variant attested by the LXX and at Qumran, “according to the sons of El” (cf. NRSV), which preserves the mythological reference to Most High (“Elyon”) earlier in the v., makes much more sense. Here, the idea is that the chief god allocates the nations to lesser deities in the pantheon. (A post-biblical notion that seventy angels are in charge of the world’s seventy nations echoes this idea). Almost certainly, the unintelligible reading of the MT represents a “correction” of the original text (whereby God presides over other gods) to make it conform to the later standard of pure monotheism: There are no other gods! The polytheistic imagery of the divine council is also deleted in the Heb at 32.43; 33.2-3, 7.” – JPS Tanakh commentary on Deut. 32.8 (“When the Most High gave nations their homes/And set the divisions of man,/He fixed the boundaries of peoples/In relation to Israel’s numbers.”)

[teamlarl]

“I often wish it was...”

#;auriel #;dash commentary #v; next gen (101 to 117 PW) #sometimesshattered

[empressxmachina]

So, about Gen V...

Gen V is good. Maybe I'll make a commentary when the season's over like I did with I'm a Virgo - a show you should also watch on Prime Video - and it's good as a whole so far (as it should be, being part of The Boys' universe), but the content I came for is the quality I wanted. So, I'm happy for now. 😁

#prime video #amazon #Gen V #The boys #G/t #Little cricket #We stan Emma in this house

[newtonsheffield]

Hey, Molly. Are you a fan of The Boys? Shelley Conn is a supporting character in its spinoff Gen V.

Oh man I love The Boys. It’s the sarcastic commentary on late stage capitalism for me 👌🏻

I also watched Gen V and I was shaken to my core by -Spoilers below the cut

The thought of Shelley Conn as a villain. And a villain who’s going to use the fact that she’s soft and nurturing to manipulate you into helping with a genocide?! Oh my god, Wild.

Even so, I wish she hadn’t died this season. I think there was more on that role and not only because I many years ago took it upon myself to support her career by watching Terra nova reruns at least once a month 😂