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marchioness-of-the-flowers-blog · 7 months

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FE4 concept, the whole game is history as written by the victors.

I mean throughout the game we are shown the drawbacks of the whole holy blood system. That having it doesn’t make you a good person (shown in examples like that of Hilda, Andrey and Arvis’s father)

Plus, Normal blooded people can never be as powerful as those with Crusader blood. This fact is reflected in the very mechanics of the game. Not only do they fall behind in physical power, but they fall behind in political power as well. All of the ruling nobility have holy blood, even our hero's’ army in a standard run is made up almost entirely of holy blooded nobles. Read this unique conversation between Asaello and Mana, (two substitute characters with non-crusader blood) for a good example.

Mana: Asaello... Look, I know how you feel, but you should really let them handle this.

Asaello: Man, if I only had a little bit of crusader blood in me... I'd be tearing this enemy up!

Mana: Well, lots of us wish we were of crusader lineage, but look on the bright side. We’ve been fortunate just to be able to come this far. Most commoners like us never get such a chance.

Asaello: Commoners... Life's so unfair. Everyone else around here is either royalty or of noble blood.

Mana: Cheer up Asaello! You've got a whole fan club of kids who are dying for you to return home.

Asaello: Yeah, I guess I can't complain. I do have you after all.

Mana: Heehee... Asaello...

The world of Jugdral works on a caste system, with those descended from the crusaders above all else.

The ony countries that aren't founded and ruled by descendants of Crusaders are Verdane and Miletos (Miletos is interesting as one of Fire Emblem's few republics.)

At the end of the game Verdane is either ruled over by Jamke's children- who based on the available mothers is more likely than not to have holy blood- or annexed into Granvalle.

As for Miletos, not much is known about it, as it is the least mentioned and explained country in the entire game.

The only man to oppose this concept of holy blood? Arvis, one of the games villains.

There's an idea here, to say the least.

#fire emblem genealogy of the holy war #fire emblem thracia 776 #FE4 #Arvis was right guys #I feel like the pepe silva meme #fire emblem meta #arvis fire emblem

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dimiclaudeblaigan · 1 year

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Do you have female characters that you like or find good in FE.

For sure, I have females I like! They tend not to be my favorites in FE (or in a lot of media in general because females often don't get written with the same complexity as males not everything can be Talentless Nana), but I don't have an empty void where females in FE are concerned thankfully.

And since you asked for FE in general, I'm just gonna go for it and list who I like or find good (two different lists because they might be good characters but just not my personal preference of character).

disclaimer: most of the jugdral loc names are obnoxious so i willfully ignore them or they're just too obnoxious for me to actually remember what they are/how to spell them. i am also elderly, so i mainly use the names i am used to from a long time before jugdral loc was even remotely a thing. bear with me kiddos)

Like:

does kris count (FE12)

Ethlin/Ethlyn (FE4)

Fury/Erinys (FE4)

Mahnya (FE4)

Tiltyu/Tailtiu (FE4)

Nanna (FE4/FE5)

Leen/Lene (FE4)

Tinny (FE4)

Linda (Tinny's replacement) (FE4)

Rahna (FE4) (Levin's mom)

Ninian (FE7)

Eirika (FE8)

Tana (FE8)

Marcia (FE9/10)

does byleth technically count too doh

Annette

Dorothea (i know randomnameless is shaming me right now)

Rhea

Flayn

Hapi

Celine (when she's not talking abt fckn tea in almost all of her supports...)

Yunaka

Panette

Ivy

wait for it

wait

hold on

decision loading

fjorm from heroes is actually a nicely written female character

Good:

Sheeda/Caeda (FE1/3/11/12 lol)

Tiki (FE1/3/11/12/13 l e l)

Ayra (FE4)

Lachesis (mostly lol, like aside from ditching her family to find her son who was safe elsewhere with three, sometimes four (lol dragon dad is inconsistent) very capable people) (FE4)

Mana (Lana's replacement) (FE4)

Lakche/Larcei (FE4)

Patty (FE4)

Laylea (Leen's replacement, I'm just more bias toward Leen) (FE4)

Altenna (FE4)

Ishtar (FE4)

Hilda (in the sense of being a good actual villain who killing is very fun) (FE4)

Lilina (FE6)

Guinivere (FE6)

Lyn (FE7) (just... not to the extent intsys nuts over)

Tethys (FE8)

Ismaire (FE8) (Joshua's mom)

Mist (FE9/10)

Elincia (FE9/10)

Sanaki (FE9/10, but shows a lot more character growth in FE10)

Jill (FE9/10)

Nephenee (FE9/10, more so FE10 as a better character)

Sigrun (FE9/10)

Lissa (FE13)

Lucina (FE13) (same as Lyn lol)

Azura (FE14)

Soleil (FE14)

manuela had potential rip

Judith

Timerra

Veronica (Heroes) (just... not the older books' version)

Henriette (Heroes)

Eir (Heroes)

and after eir that was the end of even remotely decent heroes writing as i knew it

i hope heiðr turns out okay bc i kind of like her for now and she's not as bad as the rest of literally everything in that section of the story

If I didn't list someone here it doesn't mean they're a terrible character or that I despise them or anything (they're not even necessarily bad imo), but a lot of them are pretty shallow or used like a plot gimmick. ALSO, I might like them but that doesn't mean that they were written particularly well or felt standout or anything (like, I like Cordelia but I didn't list her because it's not a very strong attachment and it's a very mild like).

In some cases for "good" that aren't in like, it's more because they're not a favorite female (like Timerra, who I like enough but I had other females I enjoyed more).

edit: if you're wondering why i didn't list sov it's bc i haven't played it and gaiden's version of the characters is about as nonexistent as fe5, hence the lack of fe2 and fe5 (who weren't present in fe4 as well) characters

#DCB Ask #the FE4 bias is very very very apparent in this ask lmfao #but hey it's not my fault it wrote its females better than the other games lel

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toon-kirby · 3 years

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I still don't know the full meaning of "cultural reset" but I think the SNES was one. Game devs just popped off during that era with great music, spritework, and stories. Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, and Super Mario RPG. A Link to the Past. Super Metroid. Kirby Super Star. Earthbound. FE4. Final Fantasy VI. Secret of Mana. Chrono Trigger. All classics in their series. Not to mention the first F-Zero, Star Fox, and Mario Kart games.

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inthedusksynria · 3 years

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Sometimes you just be going about your day and thinking, man i want to start a new run of fe4 and thinking about the pairings you would use, and wanting to grab Mana as a substitute, and - suddenly here comes a new ship and i may be getting invested??

Swordmaster x Healer is... very cute

Both of them have siblings and both their journeys are related to that. Arya in trying to protect Shannan, joining the enemy to protect him and then with Sigurd, and as well as having her own ideals. Edain wanting to reunite for her long lost twin sister and wanting to give her her heirloom, as well as being friends with Sigurd and having her own ideals.

Their differences experiences is a neat point of both relation and divergence.

Like, both are people that get shit done and have a lot of strengh/inner strengh/confidence in themselves.

Both get recruited around the same map. Idk Edain forging onwards running from the horde of enemies while Arya is figitng on the enemy side and gets recruited later. Both in a way hostages to the enemies but getting free’ed thanks to friends and forging ownards and their differences experiences regarding that.

Healing wounds trope

Arya admiring Edain determination even though she cant physically fight at first, while Edain admiring Arya strengh. Both admiring their ideals and desire for peace of tomorrow as well as their family oriented view.

The really conflict over Edain turning away from her brother since he wanted to steal Yewfelle as well as to abandon Brigid, while Arya didnt have to fight her own family, but lost her older brother and father.

JUST SAYING... Mana and the substitute gang as their adopted children.

Lana, Lester, Larcei and Ulster as siblings...

jdoasjiadsojdaso idk i just think they are neat.

#syn plays genealogy #arya x edain

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deetvar-moved · 6 years

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...wait no more cursed concept. fe4's remade and not only is janne made into the Cursed Archetype, but julia, lana, and mana are too.

Nonsense, we can go EVEN FURTHER.

Sylvia, Fury, and Midir all get the treatment. The fight between Fury & Sylvia is upto the Nth degree.

#Loptyr speaks #Jugdral Remake Speculation #fire emblem genealogy of the holy war #archsage-celica

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lightinheritor-blog · 7 years

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11. which part of your muse’s canon is your least favorite? or are there any parts you struggle to understand or rationalize in your own writing?

okay it’s probably not exactly “canon” but i absolutely hate how in heroes, seliph’s grand speech is about how cowardly he is and how he’s “always wanted to run away”. this is a boy who, in his very first appearance in the game, goes running out with three of his friends to fight the grannvale soldiers occupying isaach. he expresses his doubts about the war itself when he realizes that things aren’t always black and white and everyone he fights won’t always be a bad person, but he pushes forward anyway and knows that it’s a sacrifice of war. he does say something along those lines in one of his conversations with mana, but to have his cap conversation be all about that? uh yeah no thanks

also when ares says he’s gonna kill seliph if he’s lying about sigurd not killing eldigan in cold blood seliph is straight up like “alright you do that. our fathers would be so happy that we met!”

17. how much does your depiction of your muse deviate from canon? do you base most of them in canon, or have you taken some liberties?

well, fe4′s dialogue is pretty limited to the story and the conversations he can have with certain characters in certain chapters, so i have taken some liberties with some aspects of him. on the other hand, seliph is a pretty straight-forward good boy of a muse, so i’ve stuck with canon on that.

#[i ranted about that heroes nonsense for a solid 10 minutes the other night]#[complete with passionate banging of my fist on my table]#vaalkyrja

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another-fire-emblem-sideblog · 7 years

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So... second gen.

(Part one of the Ridiculously Gay Emblem write up is here)

All right, after the barbecue, next chapter rolls around.

And I’m getting the replacement kids. I kinda figured that was going to happen, and I’m going to be cheating my ass off anyway, so.

Real question is, how is Seliph?

Well, the second he runs out of the castle, he’s evil.

Now, here’s a confession; I kinda knew this was going to happen. An LP for a romhack called FE4: Binary did an update where they skipped Deirdre. Here’s the link. Anyway, doing this borked the game pretty bad, and one of the effects is that Seliph turned to evil.

However, there are some curious differences.

The LP’s Seliph would change every time they reset. My Seliph, however, remained mostly stable. He would have the same stats and the same inventory every time I reset.

He also has a ton of skills and all of the holy blood.

A reset does change this, although his new skillset and holy blood is no less illogical. However, further resets won’t change Seliph. This is now what he’s working with.

Also, while Seliph is coded as an enemy unit, he’s not affiliated with anyone, so he can’t move, although if I were to attack him, he’d attack back (although considering his shit stats, it wouldn’t mean much). And yeah, I can kill him, and the game will still continue.

Much to my surprise, the other enemies can attack him too. I didn’t think this was even possible. They can kill him too, and they game will still continue. Huh.

So what about the others? In the LP, all the other characters were also glitched as hell. Glitchy nonsense items, selecting characters would cause them to teleport, all sorts of shit. In my game? They’re fine.

More or less. I’m not sure what causes this, and it seemed to change at random. (Also sometimes it’d fuck up like this if I checked the menu from the map, but be fine if I check it from the Unit menu.)

Still, they do function. They move and attack just fine, and the events seem to work fine. Still, without a lord, I can’t continue the game. Hrm.

Fuck it, Radney, you’re a lord now.

Although, no one seems to recognize her authority.

Authority seems to change every round, and gets progressively more confused.

Anyway, the most important question is: can Lord Radney seize?

Yes, she can! Although the event treats her like she’s Seliph.

Somewhat surprisingly, Julia’s fine. I couldn’t get her Nosferatu or her Aura tome (i seized both castles and she went to both), though, but that might be because I skipped the conversation between her and Mana.

However, seizing the castle made Radney evil. And game now calls her Seliph.

....guys, I think Seliph might be Chara.

Evil!Radney functions like Evil!Seliph does, in that she can’t move, and other enemies will attack her. Weirdly, even though she’s on the castle, she won’t destroy the castle. Effectively, she’s protecting it.

Also, I changed her class back to myrmidon, to see if she’ll go back to normal.

And she did. It took her a turn or two though. (I didn’t keep track.)

In the meantime, Femina’s taking over lord-ing. Interesting, when she seized, she didn’t go evil. Femina seized the last few castles, and I managed to make it to chapter 7!

So, next point of interest, how badly did Leif get hecked up?

Well, he’s not evil. The stats are a bit odd, though. The stats might be due to some of the cheats I applied. Maybe? Although I made sure to delete all the old gen 1 cheats before the 2nd gen started, but I did apply cheats to gen 2, and I had to do a lot of trial and error to see what cheats would work with replacement 2nd gen characters since they’re not labeled in the FAQ. I deleted any that didn’t work with my current characters, but maybe they ended up applying to him somehow? Although I didn’t alter anyone’s skills, so who knows with that. Hrm. He might just be borked. Also, no items.

Also, Finn kept his inventory, which I guess indicates that the game counts him as unpaired. (Also, yes, those stats are definitely cheated in.)

Oh, and Seliph is gone.

I kinda want to see if Leif will change if I reset, but if I reset and try to load the save, I get a black screen. Hrm. I don’t know how much longer this will remain stable.

Well, I guess I’ll see. Also, I’ll see if I change Seliph’s class if he’ll become good again. I’ll have to mess around with this some more.

#ridiculously gay emblem #fe4 #fire emblem #i break fe4

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officialifis · 3 years

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my (first) substitute children run in fe4

hi! i finally finished my sub run so, i’m gonna make a summary of my units and how i feel about them <3

those are CLASSIC

seliph was really good, as always he gave his brave sword to someone else, he has the leg ring (sigurd needed it . so he has it now) and tbh i dont have anything to say about him, he was STRONG

julia, well julia was a monster nothing else to say here

oifey,,, oifey,,,,,,, i love you oifey but GOD why are you so bad? i never have done ANY RUN with a good oifey, he always ended,,,kinda stinky STILL he could be usefull but sadly he’s one of my TWO ONLY unit that aren’t lvl 30 at the end

shannan was (unlike his husband) VERY strong as always so yeah

dimna is cute af look at him, cute and strong! he’s a little difficult to train, and needs to kill a lot of already half dead ennemies to up but when he’s trained he became really good! he still has some problems to double, with only 13 speed,,, i wanted to give him a speed ring but UNFORTUNATELY he was too poor to get one and then i forgot

mana was bad at fighting (she has no skills) but she was REALLY helpful with her silence restore & rescue, she truly was the mvp of the fallen julia moment so she’s good! a good staves user :--)

jeanne was bad i wont lie, she heals well, and since she is on horseback she was REALLY helpful, tho i must admit i gave her a brave sword and manages to be WAY better than before, her problems is --> she doesnt have any skills

tristan ughhh tristan,,,, he was really really bad he didnt hit hard at all so i kinda bench him a long time and idk on chapter 9 he i decided to train him and he killed all hannibal’s army, so he promote and then BOOM he was really good! so yeah really hard to train but end up really okay!

altena was really good like all altena i think, i don’t have anything to say about her,, i love u altena

leif was good! as always! he was a monster with tornado don’t ask me why but that was his principal weapon

daisy,,,daisy is so bad oh my god,,,,, i love you so so much my girl, she’s LITTERALY impossible to train LOOK AT HER STATS???? SHE’S LVL 30. i manages to make her lvl30 against a silenced canis healed by equus <3 wans’t worth it at all <3

finn is okay tier, he was really strong but fell behind after a while, still he was really helpful in a lot of situation :-----) best boy

rodolbahn was kinda stinky at the beggining, like all other sub kids but he ended really good! i’m so proud of him tbh he’s really strong

radney is the same as rodolbahn, tho she’s a little worse? she was really strong too don’t get me wrong but idk she has the tendency to NOT KILL some things and yeah still she’s good!!

asaello was one of the last to promote, he was a little bad compared to dimna at first but with a little of special training he promoted and become strong! the barrier ring is on him don’t ask me why

johalvier i love you so so much,,,,,zkojdqz he’S STRONG!!! BEST BOY, he was my first to promote :---) he was easy to train and super useful since he’s one of two axe user in the second gen

amid was my second to promote, and he was strong . he did everything good, taking a bunch of silver sword? amid . taking x29 fire mage? amid . killing this fucking amrored boss? AMID . my life was ten times better when i bought him elwind and he stopped using wind <3

linda was like tailto in the first gen! A MONSTER?????? SHE’S SO GOOD WHEN TRAINED????? ultimate boss killer, she comes to you with 2 hp and just . you died :D she was a really useful staff user at the end too i love her ;; + she’s super easy to train bc she comes with paragon

femina is kinda stinky but useful, since she’s a flier she is USEFUL of course, but,,, yeah she really has trouble to hit hard and to use her adept skill, i really rely on her to go visits villages, as you can see,,,, yeah,,, 16 strenght isnt a lot at all

hawk was good tbh nothing to say on him, light is a really strong tome sadly HE CANT GET NOSFERATU FROM JULIA </3

leylia aaaaa yeah . she can dance! and she’s cute! SHE HAS MORE STRENGHT THAN FEMINA??????FIOJQOF PLEASE

sharlow was a good,, staff user..! and?????????HE WAS POOR AF????? the broken staff that i couldnt repair bc he was super poor was a physic staff! i wanted him to bought fortify but . yeah??? where did his berserk staff goes???? i have no idea maybe in the pawnshop...????? idk . don’t ask me .

ares was good yeah yeah nothing to say best boy

hannibal was an armored unit in fe4,,,,,,,,,,,,i benched him sorry

now i’m gonna talk a little about everything

this was a really good experience! and (except hannibal) that was so great to not bench anyone, because . i NEEDED everyone, the game was a little more difficult, especially the beggining, eveyone had IRON SWORD so it’s kinda difficult to do everything with them

even for leif and seliph this was more difficult, i really had trouble to train them too, bc i needed to focus way more on my other units for them to be good

i love sub kids, they are so unique and adorable,,, they really are special to me

tbh im a little sad that i already finished this run bc that was really amusing i just love this game so much

please play fire emblem genealogy of the holy war :---)

#fire emblem #fire emblem genealogy of the holy war #fe4 #fe

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