#entrapdak discourse

[garnet-xx-rose]

Yes, I’ve done the work analyzing this relationship’s problematic traits and I’ve come to the educated conclusion that I still want them to fuck

#Erik/Christine #phantom of the opera #shipping discourse #Entrapdak #poto #my experience with Entrapdak fits this too #I’ve done the reflecting #looked at the pro vs anti sides like a good academic student #and my conclusion is that they still have the stronger connection #therefore I’m going to enjoy indulging in them sucking and fucking unapologetically #you can not tell me otherwise

[yourhighness6]

I'm announcing to anyone who cares that I'm going to be watching SPOP for the first time since I was about ten, but before I do, here is everything I recall about the characters:

There's a girl with a sword who turns into a butch lesbian whose name I can't remember. I think she is the main character but that might be Glitter

Butch lesbian girl has an evil girlfriend who is apparently a hot furry. I can confirm. A large number of people insist she is toxic, but I am saving my judgement until I watch the show again. She also apparently runs an evil empire of some sort.

There is another girl called Glitter who is also a lesbian I think?? This is unclear, as I have seen her shipped with both the hot furry and the butch girl, but also with an archer himbo dude. She may be bisexual. I am not entirely sure how she fits into the story, but I do know she has mommy issues.

Archer himbo dude is a prince I think?? This is also unclear, but I have gathered that he is best boy and the only good man in the universe, which is very cool.

There is someone named Seahawk who likes to sing, and he has a mermaid gf named (very creatively) Mermista, who is apparently the SPOP version of Mai.

Evil empire furry also apparently has parents of some sort who are very toxic? I gather that one is a witchy sort of person and the other looks like a chaotic version of the terminator. Hot furry also has a stepmother who is very cute and autistic and has giant pigtails and is very smart. I don't know exactly how they fit into the story either, but pigtail stepmom seems like the MVP.

There is also a princess of some sort who acts like Toph. I believe her name is Frosta and she is basically the short version of Elsa but a lot more violent. I am not entirely sure why she is a princess? Is she archer himbo dude's brother? (I have so many questions)

There is an annoying unicorn with very pretty hair

That's all I know but I'm excited to learn more!

#spop #she ra #she ra and the princesses of power #idk the names honestly #glitter #mermista #seahawk #frosta #catradora #seamista #entrapdak #glimbo #noelle stevenson #I don't think I ever got through all the seasons #but I'm going to stick with it now just because #u know I'm there when there's discourse about ships

[lightlavenders]

for instance i feel like a valid criticism of she ra is that it uses its war as a narrative backdrop that it doesn't take seriously or flesh out very deeply. which doesn't ruin my enjoyment of the show (because the show is not "about" the war!!) but it exposes cracks in the writing from time to time. however saying that, this is a show intended for children and teens to teach them about love and self worth and queerness so I think it's really up to each viewer how seriously they wanna take the war aspect given it never intended to go that deeply into the concept.

apparently some people wanted to take that aspect very very seriously!! and thats okay because critical thinking about a text is a good skill to have!! yay for sure!!

#apparently the critical thinking only goes so far #sorry no one even cares about this discourse anymore but me #the weird catra fans vs hordak fans discourse #why can't we coexist. theyre both compelling characters #it's so weird i can't #as a die hard hordak fan I believe some of yall are only saying catradora is abusive because you're insecure that their fans will call #our ship abusive #neither are. use your brain. #entrapdak #entrapta #hordak #she ra #spop #she ra and the princesses of power

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

oh don’t mind me, just thinking about the contrast between hordak defying his abuser in order to protect entrapta, and catra using her abuser as an excuse to hurt adora in all ways imaginable.

#this is proof that the whole “she was abused” excuse doesn’t work #hordak was convinced that horde prime was right about everything up until then #he wanted prime’s validation and love just as much as catra wanted shadow weaver’s validation and love #what sets them apart is the fact that when hordak found actual love he clung onto it #while catra rejected any kind of love and kindness she was shown and continued hurting people for no reason #spop critical #spop salt #spop #spop discourse #spop criticism #she ra #anti spop #anti catradora #anti c//a #anticatradora #entrapdak #hordak

[sealnoodlesoup]

Spop fans: *Call entrapdak and castaweaver p*dophile ships because of the age difference, even though the characters are adults*

Also Spop fans: *Sexualize 17-year-olds and say it's ok because they are fictional*

#anti spop #spop critical #spop discourse #anti catra stans #castaweaver #entrapdak #spop salt #spop criticism

[lost-technology]

Antis?

I am wondering, since I had an embarrassing snafu of reblogging - and subsequently deleting what was apparently intended to be a shipping art that had lost its tag by the time I'd seen it, what constitutes an "anti" in this fandom? (In my defense, the art did not contain any kissing, sucking or nudity, nothing sexytimes). I do not simply see two characters together sharing emotional moments or aggravation at each other and automatically think it's a ship unless specified and didn't see any apparent joking or vibes. Maybe it's me being non-neurotypical. I've blocked the artist so as not to upset them by reblogging their work when I do not share in their ship-bubble. In any case, it was tame and falls into my SFW - "sometimes I'll reblog a ship art" rule on my pin. But, I am left if I am wondering if qualify as an "anti" in this fandom's specific measure of the term? I do not like Plantcest. I like them as brothers. I am willing to see "Plantcest as one-sided" in terms of Knives being kind of twisted up inside, but I'm not into Knives and Vash as mutual ship at all. I just get an "ew!" reaction to it. I can talk about my own personal issues regarding incest ships, but I won't. Sometimes things just don't float your boat. Does that make me an "anti-Plantcest" person? But what if I don't believe in harassing anyone or making a big deal of it? What if I don't want to make big fandom essays about everything that's "wrong" with it because I honestly just don't care? My reaction is merely personal and the only essays I have are rants about how I think sex-stuff in this fandom in general is too abundant and I'd like to find more gen? I don't think that Plantcest people are "wrong" or "bad" or that it's "a bad ship" - I just don't personally like it. Does this mean I'm not an "anti" then, because I am chill? I am wondering about the definition here just because, well, coming out of Spop fandom, the antis for any given ship (or individual character) were...very anti. As in, essays about "why this ship is wrong and why the people who ship it are freaks," or "why shipping adjacent het ship puts lesbians back" or "why only shipping the main w/w is bisexual erasure" and blah, blah, blah, along with essays about "liking this character means that you agree with his/hers/their bad morals means you support colonial ideas / are an abuse-apologist," etc. And pro-character / shippers for specific ship and the "antis" used to have anon-ask wars and make anti-memes and it was a whole thing. Thank Rem I haven't seen that in the Trigun fandom (yet). By that definition, I don't consider myself an "anti" because I'm like "ship what you want, knock yourself out" - but I wonder I might be defined as an anti because I am also like "I don't ship it and let's stay on our own sides of the playground."

#trigun shipping discourse #trigun #comparisons to other fandoms #there seriously was an anti-entrapdak meme that was so badly miscommunicated... #that the entrapdaks adopted it and made it their own because we thought it was funny #haven't seen those shenaynays in trigun yet #blocked the person I made the mistake with #just so that I don't make a similar mistake in the future

[st-just]

On the subject of why certain shipping communities like reylo are so well-established, I suspect this is at least in part a reaction to the negativity they got. If a thing you like is getting shit on by online strangers, many people react by becoming more ardent about it and seeking out separate spaces with people who also like it. I myself watched in real time as this exact process happened with another ship (Entrapdak) until its fans basically built an entirely separate fandom space with only very limited interactions with the rest of the fandom, and to this day it remains one of the more endurable fan spaces I've ever seen compared to much more popular and positively received ships.

Yeah that makes sense, I suppose it's just the natural consequence of fandom shipping discourse being so endemically vitriolic - which also makes no sense to me but like, that was something I already knew I didn't understand.

[makiquas]

☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ* M A K I Q U A S ☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*

mimi / alo, 20s, india

she / they pronouns, trans enby masc bi

anime, cartoons, all animated media, gl, webtoons

currently reading: exit's that way

☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ* F A N D O M S ☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*

ANIME

chainsaw man

kimetsu no yaiba (tag as demon slayer)

attack on titan (s1-s3)

puella magi madoka magica

death note

revolutionary girl utena

studio ghibli

satoshi kon

sk8 the infinity

WESTERN

she ra and the princesses of power

avatar the last airbender

legend of korra

arcane

love death + robots

☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ* S H I P S ☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*

makiqua, akihime, shinomitsu, tankana, kanaoi, inoaoi, inotan, uzuis, gennezu, eremin, levihan, jeankasa, mikasasha, yumihisu, niccosasha, hitchannie, mikannie, yumiannie, erurihan, madohomu, lawlight, remisa, juriori, utenanthy, renga, catradora, glimbow, glitradora, glitra, entrapdak, zutara, katoph, mailee, azutara, jinko, jetkotara, sukizula, yukka, sukka, yueki, kyalin, korrasami, makorra, timebomb, melvika, caitvi [among others]

!!! HARD DNI: !!!

terfs, transmeds, biphobes, butchphobes, radfems, racists, zionists, purist stans who refuse to criticise their fave media

☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ* BEFORE YOU FOLLOW ☆(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*

Please read before you follow

I am an adult, queer, trans person of color and my identity informs my media analysis.

I am focused on media featuring women, female relationships and queer/trans desire. I am not interested in a lot of popular cis mlm ships and content so this is probably not the place for your yaoi content :3

I do not appreciate purity discourse on my blog unless I encourage a conversation on my own terms. I am a perfectly capable person with two degrees in literature and arts and I can analyse my own media, thank you very much.

I will reblog criticism even on my favourite fandoms. if you don't want that, best not follow.

I love seeing butches, mascs and gnc lesbians and bisexuals in media. I interpret several characters from popular media as butch lesbians and speak about butchphobia. Please do not follow if you are a butchphobe. Btw, bisexuals do not owe you explanation for using butch and femme and do not speak over bisexuals and gatekeep queer history.

I like toxic media, dark romance and evil female characters. In particular, I LOVE toxic yuri but there are hard boundaries for me. I do not like racist dynamics, and I think toxic gl should be equally balanced- not in the sense of literal power dynamics, but that both sapphics should be equally crazy and it's not like a naive cinnamon roll x evil dommy mommy thing.

There are some ships I actively dislike, excluding the obvious pedo/incest/taboo ones so if you like any of the below, best steer clear:

akiangel, fiend harem, zennezu, giyushino, sanegiyu, akaren, eremika, mobuhan, pikuhan, aruannie, lawlightmane, kataang, maiko, zukka, zukki, tokka

#mimi.txt #makiqua #makiquas intro

[noob-handler]

this was a private blog at first but now i made it public. i follow from a certain kikyo-themed blog. i made this blog to contain all ship/fiction discourse stuff, my main is mainly aesthetic reblogs with the occasional reblog about media literacy and fandom etiquette. I'm a peacefic ex-anti blogger. I am against callout culture, kinkshaming/sex-negativity, pedojacketing, censorship, and harassment of anyone, especially death threats. in addition to being peacefic, i am also a fujoshi and himejoshi (see this site for more info) See under the cut for my interests

Some stuff I like: OHSHC, Cardcaptor Sakura, Sailor Moon, Fruits Basket, Scott Pilgrim, DDLC, Hazbin Hotel, Steven Universe, Ranma 1/2, Inuyasha, Chainsaw Man, BrBa/BCS, Death Note, Moral Orel, Evangelion, Madoka, ATLA, slashers

"Problematic" faves: Kyoya Ootori, Akito Sohma, Scott Pilgrim, Monika, the entire cast of Hazbin Hotel, Lapis Lazuli, Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond, all of the diamonds actually, Ryoga Hibiki, Sesshomaru, Kikyo, Makima, Clay Puppington, Shinji Ikari, Misato Katsuragi, Homura Akemi, Iroh, Zuko, Akane Tendo, Alador Blight, Emperor Belos, Simon Laurent, Hordak, Catra, Bojack Horseman, Princess Bubblegum, Hank Hill, Light Yagami, Freddy Krueger, Walter White, Skyler White, Saul Goodman, Gus Fring, Dick Dastardly, Bowser

"Problematic" ships i like:

Entrapdak ("entrapta is autistic which automatically makes her a minor and hordak is an evil colonizer")

Doofenperry (Doofenshmirtz is human, Perry is a platypus, also they're enemies #toxicyaoi)

WebLena (age gap)

UsaMamo (4 year age gap in the anime)

Lawlight (age gap, toxic)

David/Lucy from Cyberpunk: Edgerunners (age gap)

Huntlow (age gap of *gasp* 2 years, which is literally pedophilia to some antis)

Lunter (again, 2 year age gap, "sibling coded" and shipping Luz with men apparently erases her sexuality...even though her being bisexual means she also likes men)

Punkflower (Hobie's age is ambiguous)

ZADR (interspecies, age gap, toxic)

Kurisa (age gap)

Kyoko/Katsuya (age gap, teacher/student)

Simoncest (selfcest)

Sessrin (age gap)

InuKag and InuKik (immortal x mortal)

Hikaru/Kaoru (not seriously though) (twincest)

AkiYuna (age gap)

Zutara (sorta) (two year age gap, Zuko is "literally a colonizer")

Kataang (again, two year age gap, also Aang once kissed Katara without her consent. oh no, how dare a child make a mistake?)

Chelby (hero x villain, Chelsea turned out to be an adult disguised as a teen, toxic yuri)

KiGo (hero x villain, age gap, toxic yuri)

Narumayo (age gap, """""sibling coded""""")

Charlastor ("toxic", aroace character being shipped, "family coded" because Alastor said he saw Charlie as his daughter that one time even though he only said that to piss off Lucifer)

As you can tell, i seem to like age gaps the most. i also like immortal x mortal (which falls under age gap), selfcest, and ACTUALLY toxic yuri/yaoi. it depends though.

#pinned

[xanas-eye]

you could've been nicer about correcting them

I didn't get angry at them. By rant (in the essay-post sense), I meant that I considered writing a much longer response, but I didn't feel like doing the work for them today. People should research this stuff themselves. Especially fandom-goers, since fandom discourse tends to lead to terms getting misued without fail.

Yes, people misuing the term "Stockholm syndrome" in shipping-related conversations, unaware of the story behind its origin, is a pet peeve of mine. This topic also gives me flashbacks (freaking Entrapdak and Hackearney antis). But I did not lose my temper over their post.

#answered

[garnet-xx-rose]

Idk if it’s because of how I’ve curated my feed but I rarely see people shitting on Christine. Any E/C space I’m in is mostly about centering Christine and her satisfaction.

That said, I feel the constant need to warn people that “If you like Erik and Christine as a couple, remember not to have that kind of relationship IRL” is kind of annoying. I get the intention, but people, including young people, aren’t stupid and don’t need constant reminders to not be inspired by their toxic faves.

Like yes girl, I know the Phantom is not a real man. I wish a wealthy, nerdy, musically talented, intelligent old man that lived underground and wanted to help me with my music career was real. But he’s not, so I’m gonna indulge in fiction.

Bless the rest of y’all that get involve in the discourse though. Honestly, could not be me.

#christine daae #phantom of the opera #erik/christine #like do you know how ridiculous it was to be 18 and hearing ppl be like ‘oh you’ll know why Entrapdaks bad when you’re older’ #babes its been almost 6 years and they’re still one of the strongest relationships out of the show #i wonder if its more tied to r/c and e/c discourse which 🤷‍♀️ #jokes on them I like when all three of them get together #But yeah I rarely come across thosse ‘Christine was wrong for not picking Erik’ posts unless it was like teenagers on TikTok #Which I don’t take seriously at all #as a former teen on the internet #because most of the time you grow out of it #anyway anytime I got reprimanded for shipping something as a kid it just made me want to indulge in it more #and it made me feel like I was being treated like a toddler #by older people who’d be so up in arms about this one ship while defending another that was equally if not more problematic #my hot take is that in most cases ships aren’t really problematic #its more based on your personal tastes and experiences shaping your view of relationships in media

[therealharbingerofdevastation]

Heterophobia doesn’t exist, but if it did, the Entrapdak discourse would be a prime (har har) example.

#she ra #spop #she ra and the princesses of power #entrapta #hordak #entrapdak #spop discourse #entrapdak discourse #noelle stevenson #disk horse #pro entrapdak #pro entrapta

[lightlavenders]

Time for my Entrapdak rant (a.k.a. why Hordak was better for her than literally anyone else, a.k.a. I’m not bias I swear)

as I read through Entrapta/Hordak/princess gang discourse on this site I started to realise the reason why I loved Entrapdak so much in the first place, and I will now talk about that here (some of these points are stolen from better posts). ALSO no matter how much I shit on other characters just know this isn’t an attack of any of them. This is gonna be VERY ENTRAPTA FOCUSED.

OK SO we get introduced to Entrapta pretty early in season 1 and we get to learn a lot about her. It also quickly becomes clear that she’s neurodivergent - something confirmed to be intentional by many of the creators. Entrapta has a passion for technology, science and inventing, and (same as the previous princesses) the best friend squad decide they need her in the alliance so she can build them weapons (whICH SHE NEVER ACTUALLY DOES i think BUT THATS NOT THE POINT). 

Throughout the episode though, the squad (mostly Glimmer bc she’s the one who gets to closely interact with Entrapta the most... Adora being completely out of it and Bow with the kitchen staff) seems to slowly run out of patience for her - Glimmer very obviously puts up a front of tolerance despite her frustration. This is unlike the other episodes, where all the princesses get along in the end and become best friends oh boy! So... we have our only neurodivergent character so far who isn’t really welcomed into the group the same way as the others... and her autistic behaviour is only tolerated because they need her... okay, maybe that’ll change later.

Or not? When Entrapta joins the others on the quest to save Glimmer, she is constantly infantilised by the others and not taken seriously. She runs off to study Horde tech and actually helps rescue Sea Hawk, two very helpful things, but Perfuma talks down to her like a child and PUTS HER ON A LEASH? SHE’S 30!!! SHE WAS TRYING TO HELP! And no one tells Sea Hawk off for getting lost and alerting Scorpia to their presence, which wasn’t helpful at all. Then later, Mermista says she’ll keep an eye on her “in case she decides to befriend any more robots” like okay... she isn’t a child, and she didn’t run off because she wanted to play with robots or something?

Okay, so, Entrapta is left behind, which I won’t blame them for because it definitely looked like she died (they get over it pretty quickly but I digress), and she comes across Catra. Okay! Here’s a chance for Entrapta to make a true friend, right? Or not, because Entrapta and Catra’s friendship is built entirely on manipulation. At least Scorpia was sincere. 

Here Entrapta is again, in a position where she’s being used for her skills and in a we’re-sort-of-friends-but-I-only-tolerate-you-because-you’re-useful situation, with Scorpia probably being her only true friend at the moment. She starts helping out the horde, because they actually let her do what she wants and at the very least don’t treat her like a child. Then, she stumbles into Hordak’s lab.

I’m gonna say this now because I’ll get murdered if I don’t - Hordak is a bad guy. He does bad guy stuff. But so does Entrapta sometimes (I’ll talk about that later) so good morals don’t need to play into their relationship I think. It’s about how they treat each other.

At first, Hordak is very defensive and angry towards Entrapta, as he would be to anyone coming in to his lab without permission and discovering his secret portal project. But then she fixes said portal and he immediately sees her as an intellectual equal. Again, Entrapta has had to prove herself to someone by making herself useful, but it actually goes further. ALSO can I say how Hordak is the ONLY person who interacts directly with Entrapta who doesn’t treat her like a child or emotionally manipulate her, with the exception of Wrong Hordak, Emily, and Imp of all characters... Even Scorpia is guilty of this later.

So, Entrapta and Hordak start working together, and Entrapta is obviously very excited to have someone treat her as an equal (they’re lab partners!!). On top of that, Hordak is also happy to have someone he can actually trust. Catra and Scorpia at separate times both remark on how Entrapta spends all of her time with him now, and who can fucking blame her when he’s the only one that has literally spent all this time growing close to her and understanding her as a person, not just using her, not just tolerating her, not talking down to her constantly. Hordak opens up his trauma to Entrapta and she responds by opening up a bit in return, literally saying that she doesn’t fit in and that Catra doesn’t even talk to her anymore. They are obviously comfortable around each other, and if Hordak was manipulating her, then why was he so distraught when she was taken away? Why did he CRY??? Why did he consider giving up on his life’s purpose and abandoning what is essentially his god for her???

Anyway, stuff happens, and Entrapta shows that she isn’t the irresponsible child everyone thinks she is by agreeing to shut off the portal. But of course, Catra betrays her and sends her away. To die. How nice. Catra tells Hordak that Entrapta betrayed him, and instead of flipping out and turning all Hal Stewart incel “if I can’t have you no one can” he just gets sad... and then later all he really wants is to see her again, even if it is on the battlefield. I’m not sure what he would’ve done so we can’t say for sure, but I seriously doubt he wanted to hurt her.

sidenote - I’m not gonna blame Scorpia for letting Catra doing this, Scorpia had her own shit going on and was essentially trapped in an abusive relationship and she also later makes up for letting Entrapta down by getting her rescued

SO then the best friend squad go to save her from Beast Island, and she’s literally completely given up. Gee, I wonder why. Could it be because it seems like every friend she’s ever had has abandoned her, scolded her, or outright zapped her unconscious and sent her to die in a monster filled island? But the squad save her and affirm to her that they didn’t give up on her and that they’re still her friends. Actions speak louder than words, guys, but okay, cool! To Bow and Adora’s credit, they were the least patronising and mean out of anyone... so, that’s something. Anyway! Affirmations! Some respect from her friends! I hope this lasts... 

It didn’t! Season 5, Entrapta goes along with the others to help find out where Glimmer is. Here is where I quickly have to say something - Entrapta does indeed make some ‘evil’ and stupid decisions sometimes - hacking the black garnet, building robots that attack her old friends, walking out absentmindedly in front of a robot and compromising her team. Some of these things can be explained by her neurodivergence, but do not always justify it. That being said. Entrapta is not evil, she is not stupid, and her “weirdness” does not give her friends the excuse to treat her like a child. 

Here’s where it gets bad!! Perfuma puts Entrapta on a leash AGAIN!!!!!! WHAT? Writers? Wyd?? Not only this, but the others talk about her behind her back, and then scold her without any consideration for how she, as a neurodivergent person, was interpreting the situation. They could’ve explained their feelings to her in a calm way, instead of shunning her and expecting her to pick up on their cues, then exploding at her when they didn’t. THEN THEY CALL HER A BAD FRIEND.... and I feel hypocrisy in this chili’s tonight... and then Scorpia... doesn’t say anything? Girl help. Ik we can’t totally blame her since she was new to the squad and probably didn’t wanna get kicked out or yelled at like with Catra, but please... that is your friend...say something. also why did mermista need to pull her hair and then later say “you’re still a weirdo” like what. why do people ship them? because mermista cried when entrapta ‘died’? Okay??

I think Entrapta actually goes through some character development after this which is pretty cool - she outwardly expresses her concern for Glimmer, which is affirming to her friends the squad, and later at the end of the series, intentionally keeps herself focused during the most high stakes moment instead of running off. I’m not qualified to talk about if these traits, which could be considered traits of autistic people, deserve to be treated as flaws to be fixed, that’s a whole other bag of worms, but yay character development.

Finally, at the end, Hordak properly reunites with Entrapta and he decides to rebel against his creator and his purpose to save her life, showing that Entrapta, and their connection, is his priority now. And once Adora saves Hordak from Prime (thanks Adora), the two finally reunite in a spinning hug - that is literally the most physical contact either of them have had with anyone, how could anyone not believe in their connection and mutual trust???

Mermista gives us one last jab, an understandable one considering Hordak was conquering their planet for years on end, but still - “so, are we all just like, okay with this?” yes girl, we are. He’s literally the only one who ever treated her with real respect and love, the only one who ever prioritised her.

I know some people are gonna be like “just ship her with wrong Hordak” and if you really like that... go ahead I guess? But do we need to force a clone who just got control of his own mind into a relationship, or a girl who is very much in love with someone else into a relationship with one of her friends? You can do what you want though, it’s literally fine, I’m the one who just spent over 1500 words talking about why a 30 year old science woman should go out with an alien warlord.

In conclusion - Hordak and Entrapta deserve each other, because Entrapta deserves someone who treats her right, and I love her.

#entrapdak #entrapta and hordak #entrapdak discourse #entrapta #hordak #i had to include a megamind reference #She Ra #SPOP #big ol post #she ra and the princesses of power #i spent so long on this

[spop-romanticizes-abuse]

do you have the same hate for entrapdak?

nope. i have said it before and i'll say it again, hordak may be the villain and an evil dictator but not once did he abuse entrapta. apart from shouting at her for invading his personal space in the beginning (which he does to everyone, and is a reasonable response tbh), he learned to respect and care for entrapta. in fact, he treated entrapta better than most of the princesses did. he respected her and valued her knowledge, listened to her without judging or belittling her, and trusted her to do what was best. meanwhile, the princesses constantly insulted and belittled entrapta, put her on a leash and overall, did not treat her like a person.

even when catra lies to hordak, he only believes her because he doesn't believe himself to be worthy of entrapta's love. he was very obviously distraught by the whole situation and immediately stops doubting entrapta as soon as double trouble hints to him that catra was the problem.

so no, i have no hate towards entrapdak because it is a healthy ship between two individuals who respect and care for each other. i had problems with hordak's redemption, i think it could have been done better. but it didn't ruin his relationship with entrapta the way catra's rushed redemption ruined c//a.

#spop #spop discourse #she ra #entrapta #hordak #entrapdak

[virovac]

Entrapta is EVIL (for now)

And I say that as someone who loves the character.

She lost any chance to be considered neutral when she was fine with mind controlling Adora.

She treats people like things, and Emily is also the only robot she doesn’t seem to mistreat or treat as disposable.

The fact they made the questionable decision during animation and voice acting to give her neurodivergent coding is irrelevant

There’s a famous quote about true evil being done by pampered “men” (its an old quote) in nice rooms with the stroke of a pen.

She is that form of evil.

She is the closest to the Horde’’ propaganda portrayal of a princess being true there is in the show.

So stop being mad at people shipping “poor innocent Entrapta” with Hordak, who at least has the excuse of hatching from his pod full grown in Space North Korea

#entrapta alignment debate #entrapta discourse #entrapdak discourse #entrapta

[aziraphales-lawyer]

When people shit over the fact that you're trying to see the good in well-written bad characters, you tend to begin seeing the well-written bad in the good characters.

#twisted talks #antagonist #antagonists #entrapdak discourse #it works for other fandoms too #*cough* STEVEN UNIVERSE *cough*