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grimmshood · 2 years

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So your completely fine with ace but they decided that just because you were uncomfortable with a single headcanon that you’re all of a sudden this ace exclusion isn’t?!?

now to clarify i would be considered ace exclusionist. i will be honest with you because people are uncomfy with that! but i dont care about the situation enough to obsess over it. if i meet lgbt ppl irl them including aces has nothing to do with me and is fine. asexuals including themselves is fine. if you arent hurting anyone, i dont care if you call yourself lgbt no matter how much i dont agree with you. in the past ive been more of an ass about it but these days i really so not care unless you are using aphobia to spread harmful rhetoric, like saying that cishet aces aren't lgbt is terf rhetoric or things like that, because people do say that and im not ok with that! but otherwise if youre ace and call yourself lgbt FINE i do not want to argue with people over it bc its 2022 im about to be 21 i have so many bigger problems than worrying about ace discourse. because asexuals themselves inherently i have no problem with them!!!!!! if u are proud of being ace awesome good for you!!!!

the problem is being framed like a dangerous horrible individual for having genuine criticism towards headcanons that can be harmful! i think ace claudette is awesome even if i hc her differently, but as someone who's struggled with sexuality for a long time especially as an autistic person and with trauma, ntm being and percieved as a woc, knowing that autistic people are frequently infantilized abd desexualized, and that this is even worse towards black women, seeing a specific person make headcanons that imply white autistics are allowed to be sexual beings but a black autistic girl isn't made me EXTREMELY uncomfortable and felt racially charged at the time that i said that abt ace claudette. and thw response i got was GETTING YELLED AT BY A WHITE PERSON FOR REBLOGGING ART OF THE HEADCANON BY AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON.

like if you dont like me because you think im aphobic for not thinking cishet aces are lgbt fine! whatever! your comfort is your own! but calling me aphobic bc i had genuine criticism about a headcanon being racially charged is not a good look especially not if youre a white person lecturing a person of color!!!!!!!!!

#txt #ask #i know i said i wasnt gonna engage in discourse and shit #but being made out to be some shitty person bc i was justifiably uncomfortable with something #is really fucking shitty!#and yes i know asexual people can have sex but at the time it was not my understanding #but at the time my understanding was different and part of why it made me uncomfortable #i still have my qualms with that speicfic situation otherwise its not my issue #i do not actively think about ace claudette outside other people posting it bc im a trans lesbian claudette fan.#otherwise i literally have nothing against the hc.#but god forbid you include context lol

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thedevilandhisbride · 2 years

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i cannot stress this enough- i dont care how supportive of mental illness help/awareness someone is, if they are homophobic/transphobic they do not care about mental illness. full stop. for decades, being gay/trans has been seen as a mental illness and people have died because of it and are still dying because of it. being transgender is still heavily medicalized and people still think dysphoria (aka disorder) is required to be transgender when thats not true, and most people still think being gay is a phase (mostly because of the idea of mental illness, like a psychotic episode for example). i literally cannot believe i have to say this and i cant stress it enough either. im tired of people around me (specifically in my family) be like "im so supportive of you because you are working past your mental illnesses!" and then turn around and tell me that being gay/trans is as horrible as pedophilia and that people who are gay/trans are freaks of nature and shouldnt be normalized. also, to anyone who says that being gay/trans is normalized and nobody really says this stuff anymore- shut up. monkeypox is spreading and you know who is being blamed and killed for it? gay people. transgender and gay children are still being targeted by the american government. do you know how many bills against transgender and gay children/adults there have been by MARCH 2022 alone? 240. 240 ANTI-LGBTQ BILLS FROM MARCH 2022 ALONE. IT IS SEPTEMBER. according to this website, i have counted ~50 more from this year. and yes, most werent passed, but the fact some of them HAVE BEEN and all of them had even gotten that far to begin with is alarming. if you are homophobic or transphobic, block me. stop following me. i dont care how close to me you are. if you care about my mental health and follow me for posts about them, but you are homophobic or transphobic, then you do not care about my mental health or anyone elses. i will not argue this point. i do not care. because if you have read this far and still think that you are in the right with those views, then you do not care about trans or gay people, mentally ill people, or people who are both/all three. get off my page.

do not start arguments or discourse on this post. you have a block button for a reason, and so do i. im not arguing my point. trans and gay folk feel free to add on. trans and gay allies just reblog. if i made a typing mistake or you would like me to rephrase a sentence because i messed it up, send an ask. im visually impaired. its bound to happen.

#transphobia tw #homophobia tw #transmed dni #transgender #gay #mental illness #but no seriously im so tired of people being so kind about mentally ill people and then being homophobic like #i thought you wanted to help destigmatize mental illness?? but you out here stigmatizing something else and like #framing it as a mental illness??? mfer pick a SIDE AND SHUT UP

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quantumfeat72 · 4 years

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Hey, sorry to break this to you, but that post about Asriel hugging Chara is wrong. In game it's got Asriels voice chirps instead of the normal narrator blips. I think the game removes portraits sometimes if Frisk can't actually see their face

(the post in question)

ok idk why you feel the need to start discourse with me by picking apart an argument i didn’t even write but i’m just irritable enough rn to respond so

“In game it’s got Asriels voice chirps instead of the normal narrator blips.”

this wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen someone change their voice blips to someone else’s - i’d like to present as evidence the sans date at mtt resort

i for one don’t find it hard to believe chara actively changes their voice as the narrator so they dont sound like a kid OR changes their voice here because they don’t want frisk (or you, the player) to notice that they’re speaking

note we don’t hear any voice blips for chara pre-death or post-murder run so like, we wouldn’t know if that’s closer to how they actually sounded than the blips they use as the narrator

honestly the more i think about it the more i headcanon chara as mute, so it could be that they’re actively or subconsciously mimicking asriel’s voice via narration-powers (maybe because they see themself as “acting like him” when they say it)

“I think the game removes portraits sometimes if Frisk can’t actually see their face”

i’m not gonna go through the whole game but if you can find an actual example of this i’m all ears. i looked through the undertale text project’s bit on the sans date since i remembered sans’ face being obscured for part of it and:

granted, he’s not facing away from frisk, but they probably can’t see his face too well from that angle so it certainly doesn’t confirm your theory. again i could be proven wrong on this

“The “narrorator star” also doesn’t mean anything, in this context anyway. Every character in the game that isn’t Papyrus has it”

that’s true, but it’s hardly definitive proof against the theory

and i’m just gonna throw a couple extra thoughts at ya that weren’t in the original post

“Ha… ha…”

chara’s established as dealing with stressful situations by laughing. asriel, not so much

he does actually laugh one other time in this scene, after his line about how everyone really loves you despite hardly knowing you - this strikes me as more of a “this is actually kind of funny and i’m tired of being depressed” thing than an “i’m upset and using laughter to cope” thing

chara on the other hand - i think we all know about the “I should’ve laughed it off, like you did” line, and there’s a couple of places where the narrator shows a similar tendency to distance themself from stress using laughter. i’m not gonna get too deep into that here bc other people have said it better than i could. (not gonna hunt down the posts tonight but i can later)

i’m not saying this makes it definitive, but that line definitely feels more like the way chara uses laughter than asriel

i looked it up and asriel is the first to let go

idk about you, but when i hug someone and say i don’t wanna let go, they usually let go first so i don’t have to initiate it

and like, i dont think someone would say that and then let go less than a second afterward. i think asriel doesn’t say or hear that line, and just lets go on his own

in conclusion, i reblogged that post because it’s a theory that gives me feelings and makes me want to hug someone and that’s all i want out of this dang fandom half the time anyway so like, i’m not sure i even care if it’s canon? (i say after defending it for 500 words… i’ll take any excuse to infodump, don’t judge me)

but i mean, any theory is gonna have counter-theories that are also canon-compliant as long as we’re not talking about stuff that’s directly implied by the text of the game (like, uh… frisk and chara’s pronouns… but that’s unrelated. i digress)

so yeah i didn’t reblog that with the intention of defending it as a Totally Canon Thing but if you wanna argue about undertale with me you’re gonna need some better arguments my dude

#undertale #undertale meta #chara #asriel #ask #mine #i was gonna write like two sentences and then this happened whoops #i'm not even upset anymore lol #i got to infodump #ok ive been adding to this for almost an hour i need to stop #night y'all

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stillaswifty-archive · 5 years

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Real life shipping discourse and Taylor Swift

Theres apparently discourse going on on tumblr rn about real person shipping. I figured I'd add my 2 cents since.....well this is absolutely not a shipping blog, but I do blog about a real person, and a lot of swifties have brought up kaylors in this debate.

(Disclaimer: I do believe in kaylor, and occasionally reblog some stuff about them, but pretty much only things taylor does/says. K*rlie has made it clear she plans on staying in the closet for now, and I respect that. I also think her """husband""" is an evil crook, so I dont feel like giving her pr while shes doing this. If kaylor broke up, then I am absolutely no longer a k*rlie fan. Anyone who would marry into that family for real, I could never support. But personally, I dont believe she has much of a choice now because of past choices. Anyway that's my current feelings on them. On to gaylor)

I absolutely agree with a lot of what's being said. A lot of fans of different pairings have really gone over the top and genuinely hurt people they say they love. That's absolutely inappropriate. I also find any explicitly sexual (nudity or sexual acts other than kissing) fan art/fanfiction/serious speculation about real people's sex lives to be absolutely gross and appalling. I know there are people who think Taylor is bi/gay and/or believe in kaylor that engage in those activities, and I do not support or engage with them. That is absolutely invasive and inappropriate. Anyone who does that about Taylor and joe is just as invasive and inappropriate. We do not have the right to that part of her life.

However, speculation not only doesnt do any harm, but has been encouraged by taylor. She has never explicitly said shes straight. She has never said that people that think she is bi or gay are wrong. She could immediately shut down theories and rumors and she doesnt. She encourages it. Now you can argue that she does that because she wants people to know shes not straight OR you can argue she is straight and just knows that theres nothing wrong with being gay and it makes her money. I think the second is stupid, but whatever, I'll give you that as a slight possibility. But regardless, she has done nothing but encourage speculation about her sexuality.

There is nothing wrong with being gay. There is nothing wrong with being bisexual. Speculating/theorizing people may be lgbt is NOT wrong. It's actually an entrenched part of our community and culture. And a lot of antis ignore/misunderstand that fact. Some people are genuinely closeted and dont want speculation. Those people shut down rumors and avoid any links to the community. I dont blame them, and I don't bother them. I may be able to clearly tell they're gay, but they dont want anyone to know. Taylor has never explicitly done this. In the past, yes, she has distanced herself more. Shes clearly only now actually in the coming out process. But she left enough hints, and shes explicitly said she leaves hints, to know that she never wanted to be 100% in the closet. If she did, she would've denied this shit many times in the past. And she never has.

I dont care that much about straight people having gay rumors. Theres nothing wrong with being gay, and if it bothers them, they're not good people. OBVIOUSLY, sexual stuff about them (gay or straight) is fucked up. But just saying they might be gay or bi? That's not bad, because it's not bad to be those things.

Stop attacking lgbt people online because some gross perverts write sexual things about celebrities. Sometimes the same people may do both, but not everyone does. and simply engaging in the cultural activity of interpreting gay signaling and having gaydar, doesnt make you a bad person.

What does make you a bad person (or at least an ignorant one) is finding any excuse to deny someone might not be straight, just because they havent said the words point blank. No one should have to do that, because no one should have to come out. If they align themselves with the community, repeatedly mention having girlfriends or reject gendered terms, literally use female pronouns in a romantic sense, and constantly drape themselves in pride flags, it is HOMOPHOBIC to throw them back in the closet, slam the door, lock it, and claim you're trying to keep them safe. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BEING LGBT. Regardless of whether taylor is really bi, if you think there is zero to slim chance she is, YOURE A BIPHOBE. And if you are a huge fan who follows her closely and you think there isnt a STRONG chance shes bi, YOURE A BIPHOBE. Ignoring soft come outs is at the very least painfully ignorant and accidentally homophobic, and at worst intentionally and viciously homophobic.

And that's that on that.

#taylor swift #gaylor swift #gaylor #kaylor #lgbt #rpf #rps #real person shipping #real person slash #real person fanfiction #real person fic #slash

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starlightbarbie · 7 years

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(don’t reblog this post if you’re not one of my friends talking to me)

okay, you know, i changed my mind? i’m cleaning house today, airing out laundry, so why not do the same emotionally?

it’s been weighing on me too long and making me feel like a bad person but i’ve been so terrified of burning bridges that i never want to admit when i have a different opinion social-justice/spiritual-wise than my friends on here.

bc a lot of people seem to have the attitude that having a different political opinion than someone means you literally can’t interact with them again or continue being friends.

which i understand, it’s an online safe space and you want to surround yourself with like-minded people so you can enjoy your time away from the real-life people whose opinions you’re stuck around. tumblr is kind of the only place you CAN talk to ppl about lgbt, race, gender, etc issues and avoid other types of ppl.

but it just seems so, in a way, divisive and un-productive to alienate people who you enjoy talking to and being friends with, who share all of your political, social justice beliefs except ONE or TWO....just because their ideology doesn’t match perfectly with yours.

especially when they’ve been respecting your opinions the entire friendship and there’s no reason you wouldn’t be able to continue talking just without discussing those topics you’ve never discussed in the first place because they’ve been silent about them...

so maybe i’m afraid of all my friends finally learning my two differing opinions and immediately going “wow youre a bigot we cant be friends” and maybe thats presumptive and wrong but i can’t help my instinctual worries, you know? am i putting up too much self-defense here??

i hope i dont sound attack-y which i’m worried i might because whenever i get ranty....but whatever, this is all just MY opinion and if you read it i hope you can understand where im coming from and then, take from it what you will.

.hhmm. enough stalling...

ive never been “anti” otherkin--as i understand it’s a spiritual belief for some and a coping mechanism for others, and there’s no reason for me to bash that or find any fault with people who just feel a connection to a certain animal or whatever. that’s been happening for all of human existence, there are religions which believe in reincarnation, and i’m agnostic anyways.

i wasn’t raised religious, tho my mom was raised catholic--she wanted my sister and i to come to god on our own terms in our own time instead of being brainwashed by a church since babyhood. so far it just made us very secular. but i’ve had jewish, christian, muslim friends, and never disrespect anyone’s spiritual beliefs. i do preach separation of church and state and hold the political views that come with that, but i believe in freedom to express religion as long as it doesn’t infringe on another human’s rights.

but when it goes past otherkin...people identifying as animals, plants, and galaxies, that doesn’t harm anything--but when it comes to fictionkin and factkin it makes me very uncomfortable.

it feels extremely like theft of intellectual property and theft of identity. factkin, i have never actually seen a person identifying as, just people having “discourse” over, so i dont know if its even real but if it is...i dont even know if i have to argue against it, it’s literally pretending to be another person who is alive?? and is themselves. it’s way beyond wrong to pretend to actually be a famous person, and it is NOT a healthy coping mechanism. it could actually really scare or harm that person they’re pretending to be.

fictionkin is something i have seen a LOT and have friends who id that way, so that’s i guess the big topic here. no problem with otherkin, no one i know is factkin, but fictionkin....

i understand where it would come in as a coping mechanism, i really do. i can relate. i have characters that i’m very attached to, that i relate to very much, that i look up to and want to emulate. some of them i even feel unreasonably possessive over, like “well that’s my favorite character, they can’t be your favorite character if they’re already mine” which probably comes in to play with fictionkin feeling like they ARE the character so nobody else can be the character.

but the thing is, i can’t help but to feel like it’s intellectual property being stolen. it’s one thing to roleplay, to say “hey i know i dont own this character but i’m gonna pretend to be them and explore different scenarios.” the same for cosplaying or writing fanfiction and making fan art. using characters somebody else created to INSPIRE your own art is all fun and games as long as you dont claim to own any of the copyrighted materials.

claiming to BE the fictional character is totally claiming to own it. not legally obviously, i don’t think any fictionkin think they legally have rights to their kin, but definitely a huge mark of ownership to say “This is Me.”

they didn’t create that character. they didn’t spend hours, days, months, pouring their heart soul sweat blood and tears into bringing that character to life. the writer/artist did. when you write, you put literally all of yourself into your characters. every bit of it comes from your thoughts, your unique worldview, the things you’ve seen and learned all mixed together and spat out in a new form. it all comes from the mind of the character’s creator. in a way, their characters are each, them, or have their blood running through their metaphorical veins.

i am PASSIONATE about writing.

claiming to BE that character, that a writer put so much of themselves into, is almost like claiming to be that writer too. at least like carving out a piece of their mind and saying “this is mine, it came from my life in another universe. it doesn’t belong to you. it’s not a unique pattern of emotions and ideas and creativity that you spent years developing. it’s just me from another universe, what a coincidence, right?”

it’s so offensive to steal another person’s hard work like that. and tumblr--tumblr--is supposed to be this place where people care about art theft and crediting the owners matters? and that makes me very, very uncomfortable as an aspiring writer who has my own original characters developing in my head.

important side note: i dont think you can say that fictionkin doesnt actually hurt anyone the way factkin obviously would. i have seen personal accounts from people on tumblr that said people were tagging their ocs/self portraits as kin, or telling them that they were kin with their ocs and they were writing the story wrong in some way, and they were very distressed by it.

so. i have never said anything because i dont want to hurt anyones feelings and i dont want to lose friends, but i also have to be honest and say what i believe if i want to respect myself as a person. so that’s what i believe.

and i don’t think it’s a necessary course of action to cut off ties with someone because they dont believe in fictionkin. its like stopping being friends with someone because they have a different religion than you. i’ve had christian, jewish and muslim friends and as i said, i’m non-religious.

i understand that maybe identifying as a character is more tied with your personal identity than your religious identity, so it’s natural you would feel like people should accept that that character is part of your personality--but please understand that i can accept that there are aspects of all those characters in you and that you relate to them, without expecting me to believe that infinite universes AND reincarnation across those universes exist, which is more than any of my religious friends have asked of me. (ie no one has tried to convert me to their personal spiritual beliefs)

so that said, idk if anyone read all of this, but if you want to stop being my friend over it i wont try to make you change your mind. if youre uncomfortable talking to me after this, its fine and i wont push it. i gave my reasoning for why im willing to stay friends and put our different beliefs aside so know that youre always welcome in my life if you want to be, but i wont force you if you dont.

the next one is worse. stay tuned.

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