#censorship is always bad

[grisen06]

#ao3 #this is abt #ai art #ai writing #removing that from ex. ao3 will just cause ai fics to be harder to know theyre ai and risk real fics being removed #Censor #censorship #censorship is always bad

[unrealisticlea]

I know buddie is canon because in my homophobic country they change almost all their dialogues and they like to play this game called “how many times can we fit the word FRIEND in a conversation before it gets weird”.

“he’s hanging out with his Buck-> he’s hanging out with his FRIEND Buck”

“you said it, brotha” -> “you said it, FRIEND”

“when you sued the department did you stop to think what it would do to us”-> “did you stop to think what it would do to other people?” (Like who????)

Eddie and Buck both call Chris “buddy” but when Eddie says it they translate it to “sweetie” and when Buck says it they translate it to “FRIEND/Christopher”. When Oliver says him “Chris”, no he didn’t. He said “Christopher”, are you deaf. (they really really don’t want you to see any kind of parental relationship between Buck and Chris. Here gay couples can’t adopt children. I’m connecting the dots)

“There’s no one in the one I trust with my son more than you”-> “I’m giving you my son because there’s no one in the world I trust more than you” (yeah, okay, this turned out gayer)

I can’t wait to see what they’re gonna do with “go get them, cowboy”. my guess is it’s just gonna be “good luck, FRIEND!”

#can’t wait to see what they with 6x13 too they’ll just have to cut 1/3 of the episode #yeah censorship is always bad #but I like thinking it drove the dubbing director insane #he reads the name “buck” and “Eddie” on a scene and he immediate starts sweating #buddie #911 fox

[shoechoe]

reading the invader zim comics you can tell they absolutely love the fact that they're allowed to have blood now

#invader zim #IZ wanted to have blood in it so bad but the show was never allowed to #(i've always felt like IZ fans overblow how ''dark'' the show really is. but that is partially due to network censorship #-you can find a lot of the writers & vasquez talk about how much the scripts were messed with and changed to be more lighthearted #-and you can really feel at times watching the show that IZ wanted to be more edgy than it ended up being #i think its core problem is that it really didn't belong on nickelodeon at all... but i digress) #i'm on volume 4 and i found the first few volumes kind of... obnoxious with the (as much as i hate to say it. Bad) pop culture references #but that one panel with dib in parody-minecraft getting ripped apart by zombies and bleeding out genuinely kind of shocked me #minecraft doesn't even have blood in it. tf?

[aeide-thea]

thinking abt (1) that post abt how most censorship is preemptive self-censorship¹ (2) bras²

⸻ ¹ wow, tumblr search actually worked for once??? ² i do understand and respect that for many people bras serve an actual structural function wrt support/comfort! however, for many other people (hi!) they do not, at least in everyday non-sports contexts, and that's the set of concerns i'm speaking to here.

#i mean for me personally it's also like. sometimes/often/always i don't want to have visible tits‚ for Gender Reasons #so rendering them more compressed & visually ignorable is a move in the right direction #but that's sort of seasonal (which sounds insane‚ but‚ idk‚ in the summer the visible body hair helps balance out the visible tits???) #so it's like. objectively very obvious that i ought to go braless more in the summer #when it would bother me less visually and dramatically increase my comfort levels #and i do‚ in the house! but like. when i go out i still feel the need to render myself Presentable and i'm mad about it #bc like. yeah it's partially a trans desire to hide my chest but like. is that actually separable from the way women are socialized #to manage their breasts to HOA-approved standard or else open themselves up to a whole gamut of inappropriate treatment. (no.) #and so it's really just like. reimposing many different shades of cisheteropatriarchy on myself simultaneously #but unfortunately the only way out is to just. accept all the bad reactions i'm living in fear of. but those DO feel bad! #as always it's like. hard when yr self-protective conditioning isn't serving you wrt being a free person #but IS a rational reaction to the hobbled reality of yr actual existence… #like. easy to say 'just ignore those worries.' and maybe i will‚ at least in the context of like. casual public appearances #but like. even if the material consequences are unlikely‚ for me‚ to be more than unpleasantly judgmental stares— #that's still a real emotional consequence that has an impact on my well-being! but so does the self-censorship. #anyway. too many tags & no novel insight. just like. sux lol #(also usually on here i omit any discussion of Tit Management Issues bc it's my space where i get to pretend not to have a body) #(but like. that's self-censorship of a kind too.) #embodiment (is violence)

[obscenicon]

sorry to my many proship (and by extension antiship) followers ig but i think shipcourse is very very silly. lets all just have fun and stop giving a shit okay?

#i just think that you cant create a cohesive or meaningful political stance out of shipping drama #and that its ridiculous to even try #you can take stances againts censorship and harassment without reducing it to just a shipping thing yk? #theres no hate in this btw i dont think anybodys evil for caring this much i just think it could be directed in a much more constructive way #also harassment is always bad 👍that includes over shipping. dont be awful to people over their weird ao3 fanfics just block & move on

[ratcandy]

i am always so hesitant to like or reblog posts about censorship because it's always a question of "did the OP write this because they actually believe in the nuance of the subject or did they write it because they really want to write/draw cp"

like especially on this site I can never tell. There'll be a totally normal post about letting authors write about whatever subjects they want so long as it's handled respectively, or clarifying that "just because you don't enjoy/are discomforted by a topic doesn't mean other people cannot write about it," which is something i totally agree with! Man i'm a horror and tragedy liker of course I believe in letting people write about horrible (yet often very real) subjects in a blunt and honest light.

but then there's a 50/50 chance that what's really going on there is that the op wants to pass off their "proship" nonsense as totally valid and normal, and . Well see That is where I do Not Agree. fundamental difference in portraying a dark subject as what it is (dark and horrible) and portraying it for romantic/erotic/glamorization purposes .

i can just hardly ever trust people on this site in particular to be Normal in that regard and it is so sad. I want to agree with ur anti-censorship post babygirl I swear I Just Cannot Trust that you don't mean it in That Way and I'm not even going to Indirectly promote that

#having a nuanced view on this subject is So Hard honestly because both ''''sides''' to this argument have their weirdos #censorship bad side has . the aformentioned freaks. and then the censorship good side is... a censorship good side. #which is always a slippery slope into yikes #can we all be normal can we all please just be normal. Please #anyway sorry for the ramble I saw a Post #clamtalk #ask to tag

[valentyn-the-mad]

Shielding people from ideas will never serve them or protect them as well as preparing them to examine the ideas they encounter and determine what to do with them.

Never seeing a knife or understanding how it works will not help someone handle one safely if they end up with one. It is far far far harder to prevent ever encountering something objectionable than to learn how to deal with it responsibly.

If someone is not allowed to talk about knives but forced to juggle them anyway, there's no safe way to express that experience, nowhere to get safety tips, no one to say there are other things to juggle.

This is an obvious metaphor but apparently it's necessary because there is a distinct difference between media portrayals of literally anything and the real deal. A picture is not a mountain.

Imagination does inform reality, reality does inform imagination, but there is a marked difference between holding a thought and doing an action. The real action that impacts real people is what matters, not playing pretend. The real person made a choice - they were not forced into it by being exposed to an idea. But maybe if we stopped trying to cut off unpleasant ideas they would have had more ways to examine the concept first and then responsibly discard it. Or not, which is still on the person and their choices and not the idea they could have been exposed to in a million different ways. Censorship doesn't actually work to protect anyone. Give people the tools to examine ideas for themselves instead.

#censorship #i know its about control #and not actually protecting anyone #painting acceptable targets is easier than swaying an informed populace to do what's best for a small handful of people without moral panic #understanding how to safely approach new things will always be more effective than hoping the bad stuff never appears

[ghoul-haunted]

I HATE IT HERE

#its been bad and its been getting worse and i knew it was going to nosedive in a nasty way with the photoshoot stuff a few years ago #but this is just. AUGH. how is it getting worse!! HOW IS IT ALWAYS GETTING WORSE #everything sucks and its not getting better!!!! screaming. SCREAMING. #wishing every censorship board and censorship apologist a very DIE ALREADY

[sigurism]

And art made tongue-tied by authority.

Shakespeare, Sonnet 66

#remember: don't think for yourself #offended by one censor for all #without the past the present will never be #erasing history will surely repeat it #and it will be much worse #life in a box is better than no life at all #shakespeare #sonnet 66 #shhhh... censorship is ugly and it's bad for you #i will always fight #arrêter la censure #stop censorship

[girderednerve]

"The process of classifying books can be somewhat inconsistent. Books usually get an initial designation from authors and publishers. Then, professional book reviewers usually weigh in with their own age-bracket recommendation, and distributors and booksellers can do the same. But ultimately, local library staff make the final call about the books they buy and where they should go.

[Co-founder of Idaho group Parents Against Bad Books, Carolyn] Harrison wants to change that process by giving parents a voice in that final decision, along with the library staff. But she says libraries are resistant to the idea.

"They've told us here that 'Oh no, you can't have parents involved. You must have experts choosing books for the children,'" Harrison says. "That makes no sense. Parents are the primary stakeholders for children."

....Others around the nation are trying another tactic.

A proposal in Washington state would require libraries to use a universal book-rating system, like the one voluntarilyused by the movie industry to designate films "G," "PG," "PG-13" and "R."

"We're not asking for anything unreasonable," says Lewis County Commissioner Sean Swope, who proposed the plan. "This is a tool to provide parents to be able to tell whether this is appropriate book for your child. I mean, that innocence, once it's gone, it's gone."

Under Swope's proposed plan, librarians would be required to rate books according to criteria that he would set."

#content warning that a library director who is vaguely defending widely challenged memoir 'all boys aren't blue' misgenders its author #which fucking sucks lmao! #i also think this article completely fails to explain the problems with the idea of a movie-rating system or its origins #it doesn't really explain what professional values librarians employ when building collections; it's pretty complex actually! #instead there's a vague 'lots of librarians are parents themselves :)' which is dogshit. anyway fun time to be a new children's librarian #the best defense it musters is quoting some idahoan veteran with 9 kids who thinks that it's bad for the government to do these ratings #i mean i do think the way publishers are trending (cf. scholastic) is probably going to end with some kind of internal self-censorship #i hate this for the record. it will diminish information access in profound & horrible ways. #but the bigger intention here as always is to destroy public goods from the local picture book collection to the public school district

[feyarcher]

I think my new personal youtube rule is going to be that I unfollow and stop watching anyone who says 'corn' instead of 'porn' or says 'shit' and then censors the back half of the word. I understand that this comes from tiktok and has been imported into youtube not wanting to promote/ put pricey ads on videos deemed "mature", but I'm a full grown adult and I feel like I'm losing my mind from this trash. And I just have to tap out of it at this point.

#im not saying anyone else should make the same choice as me here #but it is driving me up a freaking wall #these sudden audio blank spaces or weird sub in words make me do a double take to try and figure out what just happened #and then when i do realize what happened im sitting here going this video is not for 4 year olds #and it just makes me so mad #it falls somewhere between part infantilizing and part confusing and completely infuriating #and i should just stop watching creators who have chosen to make this choice because the back button always exists #and i can just use it and save myself the strife #and its not like i think i can personally get youtube to stop choosing to punish videos that don't censor WORDS #but the thing i can control is how i spend my time and what i give attention to #and if i only choose to spend my time and attention on people not playing by these stupid rules then at least i help those people #while also helping myself #its basically just an extension of why i got off twitter months ago #i cant stop the platform changes but i can choose to not spend time places where i despise the rules #and if this means that 5 years from now i am choosing to no longer spend time on the internet cause censorship across sm has gotten so bad #then fine so be it i have more books than i could read in a lifetime #allie says stuff sometimes

[wyvernne]

the sumeru archon quest???? help????????

#genshin spoilers #3.2 spoilers #they always throw the most earth shattering lore in the .5 seconds you get to talk to a character after the quest #also #nilou is gorgeous and i love her dances but #she lowkey felt so out of place when they kept shoving her randomly into the main quest #i get her purpose of like #art is an important aspect of culture and censorship is bad #but miss girl was placed so randomly among other mercenary/blood thirsty characters that it was jarring fr #but get ur bag hoyo LOL #please tell me i’m not the only one who notices how painfully often female character in genshin are purely fan service/waifu-ized #LMAO #can you tell i get sorely irritated when they keep pushing women into certain categories #look at how many of the female characters either fall into ‘overworked waifu 🥺’ or ‘unconditionally positive waifu 💞’ #it’s a lot #just because there’s a lot of female representation #doesn’t make it good representation #and we know damn well hoyo knows how to write beautiful storylines #it irks me that so many of the female characters get bland/uninteresting backstories #i go off in every survey about this lol #sorry this is a lot of complaining LMFAO the quest itself was great #anyway ignore my rant i’m tired #it was a good quest all in all #dehya was so unbelievably badass #the scene where she almost gets her arm cut off????? #slay #alhaitham is still a bitch but he’s a smart bitch ig 🙄🤚 #i just wish we would’ve seen more of candice tbh

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[mirage-coordinator]

post about how censorship is a dangerous thing, and that throwing out “what if a CHILD saw this?” about things you don’t like is parroting conservative rhetoric (because it’s true, some things are going to be uncomfortable, and will make you uncomfortable, but should not be forbidden on the grounds of that discomfort)

it’s some stupid fuckwit covertly arguing that actually, they shouldn’t have to face any criticism for posting their shitty incest fanfic under the guise of a take that any average person would think is perfectly reasonable (they’re idiots who put that shit out in public and are not immune to people pointing out Hey That’s Weird)

#roarkposting #you cannot have a goddamn conversation about censorship on this website! #people who's kneejerk reaction to discomfort is 'this should not be allowed in any form ever' #will go well yes. CONSERVATIVE censorship is bad but mine is different and only the stuff *i* don't like #and then #people who are way too into incest and adult/minor shit and think you are being mean to them for calling them a fucking weirdo about it #will think you're on THEIR side. you are NOT associated with me! #none of the 'i just like Dark Themes in fiction' crowd mean it they just think that if they call their like. fucking #harry potter incest shit 'dark fiction' that suddenly makes it Not Weird and Above Criticism #i studied literature i have read and written about some incredibly fucked up works of fiction #they are Good and they do not always spell out 'hey this form of abuse was Bad and Evil' because they don't HAVE to. gotta use ur brain #something which. ironically. these ppl do not seem interested in doing #they much prefer digging in their heels and going nuh uhhhhh you're just being Mean for No Reason #i'll die on the hill of 'if you say loser shit like puriteens you are arguing in bad faith' because it is such a stupid fucking thing to say #sorry for Poasting about this again it just frustrates me to no end because. God #i am so sick of people with awful opinions disguising their shit (BC THEY KNOW THEY R NOT IN THE RIGHT!) as something that seems #perfectly sensible and outright reasonable on the surface

[aalt-ctrl-del]

the puritans are still condemning Ao3 for hypothetical content. Meanwhile, Tiktok has influencer mother Jacquelyn Eleanor who is exploiting her real-life daughter for internet predators and creepy-creepy content.

Thank you to iNabber for censoring the minor in the video refs X.

Really, why do people get up in arms about the Ao3 business, when they need to take that energy and passion to platforms which endanger real kids and exploit minors for views? The priorities are disturbing and... don’t make an equation. It’s all a bunch of “baby takes their first standards and moral stature on an issue uwu”

And family vlogs that depend on child content or their kids, are an ongoing controversy for sites like youtube and tiktok, which use real children for engagement. France has already passed laws regarding this issue, but I feel the idea is more complicated in America (and other countries) despite “child labor laws” because it can be signed off as a source of income for the family, and has its own protections. In some situations, it can be harmless and the individuals who manage the channel do take precautions to protect children - youtube does have some sort of edit tool for a channel to protect it from registered child predators, but I don’t really know the details since it does sound complicated, and does not seem foolproof.

In regards to protecting other children from a family that is exploiting their minors (like the case of DaddyNightmareofFive) for known predatory viewership, that would then come down to the content site such as youtube or tiktok - since the site would need to take over measures when the channel management has failed. This isn’t happening currently unless the content is reported, because everyone who might report child exploitation is over on Ao3 screaming about something they read in a fantasy setting in a dystopia world, or something.

Meanwhile, neither youtube nor tiktok will do anything about the shameless controversy, because MONEY.

Don’t give me the whole, “uwu, if people are doing this bad stuff on Ao3 that I don’t agree with, then they might be more likely to do it in RL”

Girl! They are doing it “FURREAL” They are over on youtubers or Tikclocks doing it FURREAL! GET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT.

ᴰᶦˢᶜˡᵃᶦᵐᵉʳ ⁻ ᶦᵗ ᶦˢ ⁿᵒᵗᵉᵈ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᴬᵒ³ ᵐᵃʸ ⁿᵒᵗ ᵖʳᵒᵗᵉᶜᵗ ʳᵉᵃˡ ˡᶦᶠᵉ ᵖᵉᵒᵖˡᵉ ᵒʳ ᵗʰᵉᶦʳ ˡᶦᵏᵉⁿᵉˢˢᵉˢ ᶦⁿ ʷʳᶦᵗᵗᵉⁿ ᶠᵒʳᵐᵃᵗ, ᵇᵘᵗ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵃⁿ ᶦˢˢᵘᵉ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ᵃᵈᵛᵒᶜᵃᵗᵉˢ ᵒᶠ ᶜᵉⁿˢᵒʳˢʰᶦᵖ ᶜᵃⁿ ᵘⁿᵈᵉʳᵗᵃᵏᵉ ᵗᵒ ᶦⁿˢᵘʳᵉ ᶦˢ ᵃᵈᵈʳᵉˢˢᵉᵈ ᵒʳ ᵖʳᵒᵖᵉʳˡʸ ᶠᶦˣᵉᵈ, ᵃⁿᵈ ʷᶦˡˡ ᵏᵉᵉᵖ ʸᵒᵘʳ ᶜᵒᵃˡᶦᵗᶦᵒⁿ ᶠʳᵒᵐ ˡᵒᵒᵏᶦⁿᵍ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ᵇˡᵒᵒᵈʸ ˡᵘⁿᵃᵗᶦᶜˢ.

ᴵ.ᴱ., ᴮᵉᵗʷᵉᵉⁿ ᵖʳᵒᵗᵉᶜᵗᶦᵒⁿˢ ᶠᵒʳ ᶠᶦᶜᵗᶦᵒⁿᵃˡ ᶜʰᵃʳᵃᶜᵗᵉʳ ᵒʳ ᵗʰᵉ ʳᵉᵃˡ ᵖᵉʳˢᵒⁿᵃ ᵒᶠ ᵃ ᶜʳᵉᵃᵗᵒʳ, ᶠᴼᶜᵁˢ ᴼᴺ ᵀᴴᴱ ᶜᴿᴱᴬᵀᴼᴿ ᴬᴺᴰ ᴿᴱᴹᴼⱽᴬᴸ ᴼᶠ ᶜᴼᴺᵀᴱᴺᵀ ᵀᴴᴬᵀ ᴵˢ ᴴᴬᴿᴹᶠᵁᴸ ᵀᴼ ᵀᴴᴱ ᴿᴱᴬᴸ ᴬᴺᴰ ᴸᴵⱽᴵᴺᴳ ᴾᴱᴿˢᴼᴺ. ʸᴼᵁ ᶜᴬᴺ'ᵀ ᴰᴼ ᵀᴴᴱ "ᴱⱽᴱᴿʸᵀᴴᴵᴺᴳ ᴵˢ ᴮᴬᴰ ᴮᴱᶜᴬᵁˢᴱ ᴼᴺᴱ ᵀᴴᴵᴺᴳ" ᵀᴴᴱ ᵀᴼᴾᴵᶜ ᴵˢ ᵀᴼᴼ ᴮᴿᴼᴬᴰ ᴬᴺᴰ ʸᴼᵁᴿ ᴰᴱᴹᴬᴺᴰˢ ᴬᴿᴱ ᴵᴺˢᴬᴺᴱ. ᴺᴼ ᴼᴺᴱ ᵀᴬᴷᴱˢ ʸᴼᵁ ˢᴱᴿᴵᴼᵁˢᴸʸ ᴮᴱᶜᴬᵁˢᴱ ʸᴼᵁ'ᴿᴱ ᶜᴿʸᴵᴺᴳ ᴼⱽᴱᴿ ᴬ ᴳᴿᴬᴾᴴᴵᶜ ˢᵀᴼᴿʸ ᴬᴮᴼᵁᵀ ᴿᴬᴵᴺᴮᴼᵂ ᴰᴬˢᴴ.

#youtube #tiktok #archive of our own #And then lets talk about youtubes bullshit algorithm recommending the most bizarre content. #ao3 #people are always talking about how youtube is bullshit for protecting kids #yet they harp on ao3 and... not focused on task #the paradox is insane #I MUST DEFEND THE FICTIONAL CHARACTERS FROM EVIL PEOPLE WHO WOULD WRITE TERRIBLE THINGS #thats what your doing #youre giving protections and advocating for fake people #i have to throw in the disclaimer because people always come with the (this creator has graphic fics written and it makes them sad) #-SO WHY AREN'T YOU PEOPLE FLOODING AO3 ABOUT TAKING DOWN GENUINELY BAD TAKES THAT SHOULDNT BE POSTED? #if you didnt shriek about blind censorship over EVERYTHING #ao3 might be able to focus on this sort of content that shouldnt be living rent free

[mothslimes]

........

#mik talks #need to do a little tag screaming actually #ignore this #but last post reminded me of this server i used to be in #where evry tiny thing would be censored #and back then i was like okay welp i guess it makes sense because theres so many young people in there #but imma be so real #i think censorship and excessive trigger warnings do more harm than good #life sucks #theres bad aspects to life #you cant censor away the human condition!!!!!! and thinking you can is just gonna disappoint you #most people are not gonna coddle you #and theres a flip side to this!!! which is that this censorship is harmful to the ones being censored too #like me for example #im extremely hyperactive and talkative and like to overshare right #and it always gets me in trouble with moderators in these sort of communities simply because i dont do well with strict rules #i can never follow them #so if the rules are genuinely stuff like 'youre not allowed to mention death' and then like 100 of those it gets so easy to lose track #i constantly had to recehck the rules channel it was exhausting #and then id get told off for everything but majorly #mods were not kind nor patient with me. they would abuse their power. it was genuinely sadistic #for a positivity server everything was constantly centered around telling each other off #and the worst thing is that the same rules wouldnt be the same for everyone like. fi they liked a person theyd make exceptions for them #which was even more frustrating to my brain #i will never forget that one time i was reprimanded for venting about my dad not coming to my graduation because he forgot the date #(because i guess it just wasnt that important to him) #like. not even any sympathy from the mods. only 4 fucking messages telling me to delete the vent #like????? #genuinely pop psychology has fucked with peoples brains majorly it has fried so many braincells #in what fucking universe is that an acceptable thing to do to a person. its cruel. it was all cruelty. it was surveillance culture

[aro-lover]

i do wish there was more of a community for selfshiping that's just . neutral on the whole shipping debate. like i just dont care really

#tbh my stance is more like. i dont think sharing art like that makes you a bad person i think theres a lot more nuance than that #do as you will with yourself i think the answer is almost always more options not more censorship. ddde makes perfect sense to me #someone who makes a knife to cook (or even to hurt themself) isnt at fault when a kid hurts themself #especially if they put it in a drawer labeled 'knives' with a childproof lock. yeah it still sucks but nobody has to be blamed #all that said its almost never fun to hang out with people who make incest a part of their identity #esp as a fickin person i really cant fully vibe with 'take it easy its just a drawing'