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fiendishartist2 · 11 months

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web avatar jon thoughts i will probably never do anything with:

-joins with the rest of the archival staff-> is brought on (instead of martin) by elias in order to mark sasha with the web, since she didn't have the encounter with mr. spider

-sasha is the archivist now, tim and martin are still archival assistants

-no encounter with the spiral-> no one is replaced by the not-them. smth happens with the web instead (sasha's first mark alongside prentiss+the corruption) and is "resolved" by jon

-jon is antagonistic throughout the first 2 seasons and plays a role similarly to helen (friendly but should not be trusted. hes manipulating them all to do what he wants). he is not in cahoots with jonah (he quite dislikes the man, thinks he takes too much pleasure in ruining the lives of others. at least jon is a mostly neutral party) and does not help in getting sasha marked by the other fears. his involvement with introducing them all to the web is to establish more power for his fear in the archives

-in the third season, however, jon starts to turn his attitude around, esp after leitner's death. he uses his power of manipulation to keep sasha in hiding + help with the investigation. he does not stop puppeting them all in the background, but uses it more to keep them all safe, and less for his own gain

-specifically helps with preventing the unknowing, partially bc he doesnt want the spiral to take over and partitally bc he cares about his friends

-sasha goes through it like canon jon, has a similar relationship to tim as jon did to martin

-jon and martin are still involved, however their relationship prior to s3 is kind of manufactured. jon does and says exactly what they all want to hear to get in their good graces, and it works especially well on martin. s3 onwards features them getting to actually know each other as jon loosens up on messing with their personal lives and focuses on protecting the archives

-daisy and basira are unchanged, however daisy takes a dislike to jon as well as sasha (bloodlust in sasha's case and disgust in jon's. idk if she would want to kill jon too bc his fear manifests much more subtly than sasha's, but i think she would hate him more. maybe that would be reason enough at this point ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯) and basira is more willing to work with jon than she is of sasha. at this point, she is effectively being used by daisy and i dont think she would be able to notice the same behavior in jon

-melanie is unchanged, she still hates being there and gets marked by the slaughter

-tim hates jon even more than in canon-> thinks hes a little creep almost from the beginning and doesnt trust a word he says. finds him much too similar to the spiral and the distortion, 2 fears he has a particular hatred of

-the unknowing team is now comprised of: tim, sasha, melanie, basira and at home are: daisy, jon, and martin. jon weasles his way out of going bc he doesn't like to get directly involved in situations. staying home is much more appealing to him. also, he wants to fuck with elias just as much as martin does. daisy stays (despite wanting to go with basira) bc she wants to kill jon

-martin's confession is left out of this version bc jon is there. however, elias does get martin to stop- not with his insecurity regarding his mother, but with his insecurity regarding jon. he successfully plants a seed of doubt in martin about jon's true intentions, when he brings attention to all of his actions throughout the show (some of which, martin has witnessed and tried to ignore bc he didn't want to face them)

-sasha still goes into a coma, tim still dies (not without apologising to sasha, even if she never hears it bc the unknowing is happening), melanie gets thrown into the buried, basira returns home, daisy is stuggling with the hunt (much like melanie and the slaughter) martin retreats into the lonely, now convinced that all of his friends are dead and the rest cannot be trusted. they successfully get elias arrested and peter lukas takes over running the institute

-jon absolutely despises peter lukas bc of his isolation approach to running the institute; if everyone is seperated, there are no connections to manipulate. bc the web is manifested so strongly throughout the archives, he still has some control, but the ppl he genuinely had relationships with are gone and its much harder to handle

-daisy fights off the flesh, but it leaves her lost to the hunt (how to resolve? maybe she learns to keep it hidden from everyone until she snaps when those monster hunters come at the end of s4. maybe basira helps her through it. melanie still gets to heal, after they take out the bullet and get her out of the archives)

-when sasha comes back, jon clings to the last remaining thread in his web of the archives, becoming her new anchor after tim's death. when she goes into the coffin, he is the one who places all of the recorders on top it and wills her back home, melanie in tow

-at this point, jon has given up any malicious intent he had, as hes seen elias's plan unfurl and works to prevent it (like annabel cane, he knows smth is up). he wants to counter-manipulate everyone into not allowing the apocalypse to happen, basically

-which means he needs to get martin out of the lonely asap. martin joins peter now, not bc he does believe in the extinction, but bc there is nothing else for him in his life and he needs a way to detatch himself from jon, who he thinks has been lying to them all the whole time (finds out hes an avatar of the web some time during sasha's coma). jon manages to convince him their relationship is not entirely built on lies with sasha's help and prevents lukas from taking martin into the tunnels + to the panopticon. they leave just as the hunters arrive

-sasha still escapes into the tunnels (she Knows lukas is down there and potentially elias?) + eviserates peter lukas <3 finds elias

-daisy goes hunter mode and kills julia montauk, basira escapes into the tunnels, daisy hot on her heels after also killing trevor. she meets up with sasha and elias

-like in s5 w georgie + melanie, basira has been finding ways to get rid of the archives altogether, eventually stumbling upon whatever gas thing allows them to blow that shit up in the last episode. in her rage about daisy's decline (as well as her promise to daisy) and everything shes had to do for elias in the past season, she successfully blows up the building, trapping herself, elias, jonah (body), and daisy inside. idk whether sasha should bite the dust or not...... maybe it wouldn't be satisfying, but i think the nature of her character is to not survive and leave you mourning her lol

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smallestclowninthecircus · 3 years

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Ok yall I'm listening to tma for the first time and im gonna record my thoughts here.

I dont even know if this is worth posting but im going to do it anyways. I listened to episodes 1-40 in 3 days, I believe that's the first season.

ep 1: this is v good so far idk not much to say

ep 2: are all of these gonna have somebody named jon? thats the name of the dude speaking right?

ep 3: design with lines and a square in the middle? gotta be real that just sounds like a spider web. (isnt there an entity or wtvr called The Web? i think?) also are we just gonna brush over whatever thing shoved her into the street bruh

ep 4: the eye! That's a thing I remember seeing posts about

ep 6: worms? Worms!! "This story is concerning" arent they all?? who the heck is Jane prentiss uh oh

ep 7: so I'm guessing this is one of the entities we hear about?

ep 8: fractals feel like a Web thing idk its just vibes. this box sounds like a Web thing too- oop yeah spiders

ep 9: ik the hand with the eye on it is significant cuz i see it in fanart but im not sure what it means.

ep 11: web go brrr

ep 12: eyes!! In ep 4 the poem mentions smth about hearing right? AYO look at me makin connections Jared Keay (keye?) baybeeee. Beholding is a thing!

ep 15: I think theres an entity called The Dark but I'm not sure if im just making that up

ep 17: is it jorgen shitener or wtvr his name is again. IT IS!

ep 16: web time

ep 18: sus smells. Is it Eye time?

ep 19: oh!! this is connected to the other one! woah!

ep 21: this feels a lot like the cave diving one so far. was that a squish noise i heard at the end? worms? doesnt he have worm scars from whatever thing?

ep 22: martin voice reveal!! pogchamp! oh wow ok i knew the worms were gonna be somewhat important but not this important oh boy.

ep 23: oh god please no not the books. is this related to the graveyard thing from mist? jw 1279 (doesnt jw mean jehovah's witness) ffFUC KING KEAY

ep 29: i wonder if gerard keay (as ive learned his name is spelled) is one of those immortal death thingies. he does seem to show up a bunch but somehow i doubt it

ep 30: The Slaughter time? Meat! like the upstairs neighbor one!

ep 31: he mispronounced Appalachia >:( aw hell naw this is some Most Dangerous Game shit. this has The Slaughter vibes

ep 32: Prentiss oh boy. worms go brr. beholding is such a specific word i feel like i have to write it down ever time i hear it. spiders again. I still havent figured out which entity prentiss is related with. "you rob it of it's fear" "i dont know why the hive chose me" Is there an entity called the hive? i wouldnt be surprised but i cant remember hearing about it. Nicholas says worms are related to The Corruption

ep 33: "trying not to think about eachother" sean kelly o no re u gonna die. yeah im with jon on this one theres not rlly any supernatural stuff happening. probably they sacrificed him to keep something ? at bay (heh)

ep 34: i dont have to talk about how weird John Doe is right? v sus. The cracking noise is them giving themselves bones right. Apple? spiders? awww teeth i tried to call it. Teeth like the trash bag episode!

ep 35: passages: as in from a book? please no god not litener tell me it isnt so- GODDAMMIT OH WAIT JARED ITS HIM THAT LITTLE SHIT 13 passages + the one they came from. Weirdly wet, probably covered in blood. Bone! from the book that jared has! that's where he got his fuckner book. pages with web, figure in the darkness (anglerfish) stranger who means him harm, smth abt heat idk lightless flame go brr. eww the wormsss.

ep 36: buzzing? like in Hive? this sounds like a worms thing, perhaps the person who gave the statement got infected, thats why she was washing/ itching her hand? lighter?? hold on jared had one and the guy who got killed by the crime dude had one. spiderweb design go brr web go brr

interesting note cuz i cant remember which episode this came up in. In one of the past episodes tim was talking about some mistakes in the recordings. jon doesnt seem like the type of person to just not care about mistakes. he's gotten obsessed with these recordings like others get obsessed with the web etc

ep 37: They have the table? hmm... is this gonna be some fairy ring stuff. oh boy more burning. iron oh boy fae shit. milk bottle? this all sounds like witch shit i gotta be honest. rain water? yeah this feels like witchy things lol. dont tell me he opened one of the bottles. istg. he messed with some witch's spell jar and now he's cursed. is it a photo of his "predecessor" AYO IT ISS I CALLED IT

ep 38: books at lease we know they wont be involved but they couldve been. how come no one but jon ever calls the design a spiderweb? he has a migrane from the design? (idk if it is a guy but i always use he/him in my head cuz jon does) hopefully that means he wont be influenced? idk. oh dear a person is gonna disappear arent they. is david gonna go missing. is the speaker gonna go missing? spider oh no jon. oh no worms oh fuck

ep 39: oh dear this is quite unfortunate. LMAO he just asked if martin was a ghost im losing my shit. AYY TIM. fucking sasha is gonna get brainwashed by the web istg. I think that's a new voice but i cant tell im not v good at determining different voices. is it prentiss?

ep 40: "my eyes are up here but yknow, theyre not." LMAO how come those worms were slow (tim's statement) sasha sounds off. it's not her for sure. Is it like NotGraham? NotSasha? its funny she (gertrude) has such an ordinary death but that almost just causes more questions. If she didnt die due to a supernatural thing then it's something scarier, a person. (ayy me n jon said like the exact same thing) "they'll have to kill me first" oh god oh fuck foreshadowing

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