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villainsandvictimsalliance · 10 months

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Idk what to tell to the people who still don't get that although is okay to teach kids the rules to live in a society (like respect others or don't kill or whatever), Kotaro Shimura, Enji Todoroki and Toga's parents didn't care as much for society rules as they care for the rules that made them feel okay at home.

Which in the end caused the main villain trio to reject authority and society and turn into violence, since they did try to use words as kids and were royally ignored.

Tenko, Touya and Toga tried very hard to be good kids, but in their parents conception it was not enough 'cause they couldn't repress some of their needs: they wanted their dads and moms to accept them as they were, to accept who they wanted to be, to accept the way they expressed love and accept the way they interacted with their surroundings.

In Tenko's case, Kotaro was unable to accept his kid desire to become a hero. His could be the worst case in bnha, given the violence of his tragedy and how misfortune (maybe even something else) played on it ending so badly. Tomura himself said that house rejected his very identity, even tho Hana tried to support him in secret and Nao stood up for him, little too late. For what we saw of him as a child, his only defect as a son was wanting to be a pro-hero, dream that got him beaten up for, grounded in a rather cruelly manner. Kotaro's trauma turned him into an irrational man, his hatred for heroes was both the build up and the catalysis of the tragedy that ended the lives of the people he loved the most.

Tenko didn't become a villain because he was an evil kid. He became a villain because AFO wanting it so and because Kotaro inculcated in him such extreme hatred.

In Touya's case, it's a bit more complicated. I don't believe Enji's obsession was completely evil in nature, although his actions were truly selfish and it became later abusive, when his desperation blinded him to the point he was unable to understand how bad he has turned out to be. Like in Tenko's case, the mother is at fault only in yhe sense that their lack of intervention allowed the situation to escalate 'til they couldn't prevent it anymore. Touya's case differentiates itself in the fact that he was older than Tenko, his behavior declining over the years into extreme violence, unlike the way Tenko exploded in murder glee when Kotaro hit him one last time.

The lack of proper attention from both Enji and Rei allowed Touya's behavior to become a tragedy. Their negligence, Enji's focus on his work and Shouto (as a project not a son) and Rei's role of a caretaker yet not a mother, combined with the incapacity of Natsuo and Fuyumi to understand what Touya was going through (really, only Shouto could, but at that point Touya hated him too much and Shouto was way too young)... Well, it didn't end well for a kid that didn't want help anymore but attention on his own terms. He was tired of adapting, the same way Tenko rebelled in his insistence of acting the hero way.

The same house rule ( YOU CANNOT BE A HERO ) sent them both to AFO's hands, one way or another. They were kids who couldn't act the way their dads wanted, so fuck them I guess.

That part is compatible to Toga's case. Kinda.

Toga's parents are by far the most twisted of the bunch, which is a lot to say considering that Kotaro hit his kids and Enji even hit his wife. Yet, without having to touch a single hair of their little girl, they inflicted damage so deep she preferred to become a runaway criminal than to stay at home one more day.

At least Kotaro and Enji valued at some level Tenko and Touya's existence. Toga's parents didn't care about her at all. She was as good as a broken doll, an imperfect piece of their furniture, something they wish wasn't related to them at all. Enji was at least worry about his son and he loved him at some degree, the same way Kotaro worry over Tenko was born out of his fear of losing his family. Nothing of it excuses what they do and let it be said that Enji and Kotaro did saw Touya and Tenko as monsters at some point (when Touya tried to kill Shouto and on his Dabi era, when Tenko killed his family and turned to Kotaro). Yet it doesn't compare to the way Toga's parents immediately erased her from their lives, even denying any affiliation. They sent her to that therapy like a car needing to be repaired. She was a sign of status, she was an object that they failed to produce, she was an aberration and a freak, she deserved to be put down.

From the three od them, Toga was the one who struggled the most to fit in socially, not to society standards tho. To her parents.

If all these parents had cared for their kids more than they cared for his own stupid rules maybe things would have been different. But that's the core of their problems, they don't need the whole world to accept them, they need to treat the internalized traumas their parents left them with, the self-hatred and the feeling of inadequacy and the need for acceptance (of themselves) and recognition.

That's why Toga, Izuku and Shouto are the key for their recovery. Acting as mirrors, they are meant to provide the closure the villain trio desperately need. It's not just a sibling or a nemesis bond, but a recognition of the self through the other situation.

If they can accept themselves and correct their ways and get free from their parents absurd rules, if they can move past the child need for their parents validation, maybe they can finally exist in a less painful way.

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greenhappyseed · 10 months

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Thinking again about how parents play such a major role in MHA and how they shape the trajectory of their children’s lives. I feel like the Shimuras and Todorokis are pretty obvious, but I was thinking of how Inko was devastated and told Izuku she was sorry when he got his quirkless diagnosis. She believed Izuku’s diagnosis ended his dreams (because that’s how hero society worked) and she was sad for her boy. But he kept dreaming anyway, and she didn’t try to squash it. She may not have believed he could succeed at becoming a Pro Hero, but she didn’t ban his hero obsession either. Inko certainly fears for Izuku’s wellbeing more than Izuku, yet she doesn’t deny Izuku his inner world or his humanity.

Then you have the Aoyamas, who went to AFO to get their son a quirk so he wouldn’t be “different.” Aoyama himself says his parents fretted more over this than he did. His parents pushed him to conform, and so he dreamed of fitting in and giving back to the family and society that accepted him. But AFO denied him that dream. The quirk that his parents wanted him to have so badly also put Aoyama under AFO’s thumb. In his head, Aoyama wanted to be a a selfless hero. In reality, he behaved like a criminal — he couldn’t escape his parents’ fears he was different and was bound to AFO.

Now we have the Togas, who also insist on their daughter not being “different.” They push Himiko to mask her desires and hide her quirk, fearing society would deem her a monster. (It seems they would prefer if she was quirkless.) Once again we have parents fretting more than their child and not letting their child simply exist. In her head, Himiko wanted to be full of love. In reality, she behaved like a serial killer because she never learned healthy expression — she was confined by her parents’ fears she was a monster.

#bnha spoilers #mha spoilers #bnha 392 #mha 392 #inko midoriya #izuku midoriya #Deku #yuga aoyama #himiko toga #bnha #mha #my hero academia #boku no hero academia

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pikahlua · 10 months

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MHA Chapter 392 spoilers translations

This week’s initial tentative super rough/literal translations under the cut.

1-2 私の何を知ってるの⁉︎ わたしのなにをしってるの⁉︎ watashi no nani wo shitteru no!? “What do you know about me!?”

tagline 1 大軍にのまれ！たいぐんにのまれ！ taigun ni nomare! Swallowed by a giant army!

tagline 2 No.392 ヴィラン名　　堀越耕平ナンバー392 ヴィランめい　　ほりこしこうへい NANBAA 392 VIRAN mei Horikoshi Kouhei No. 392 Villain Name Kouhei Horikoshi

3 フロッピーーー‼︎ FUROPPII--!! “Froppy--!!”

4 奥渡島のダメージでオクトじまのダメージで OKUTO jima no DAMEEJI de The damage I got at Octo Island,

5 くっ…うまく捌けなかった…！くっ…うまくさばけなかった…！ gu...umaku sabakenakatta...! ggh...I didn’t handle it well...!

1 何一つ不自由なんかなかったくせになにひとつふじゆうなんかなかったくせに nani hitotsu fujiyuu nanka nakatta kuse ni “Even though you had not even one inconvenience,”

2 ルールに合ってただけのくせに‼︎ ルールにあってただけのくせに‼︎ RUURU ni atteta dake no kuse ni!! “even though you only followed the rules!!”

3 生きやすく産まれただけのくせに‼︎ いきやすくうまれただけのくせに‼︎ iki yasuku umareta dake no kuse ni!! “Even though you were born only to live easily!!” (Note: This grammar pattern sounds more accusatory than it might sound in translation. The overall message is basically: “How could someone like you, who has only ever had such an easy life, know anything about me!?”)

1 スズメを殺して血を啜ってスズメをころしてちをすすって SUZUME wo koroshite chi wo susutte You killed a sparrow to drink its blood,

2 笑ってるなんて… わらってるなんて… waratteru nante... and then you smile...

3 違うのちがうの chigau no No, it’s different.

4 お庭に落ちてたのおにわにおちてたの oniwa ni ochiteta no It had fallen in the garden.

5 ハイ矯正していきましょう"普通"にハイきょうせいしていきましょう"ふつう"に HAI kyousei shite ikimashou “futsuu” ni All right, let’s go and correct you to normal.

6 あ　ハイもうちょっと待ってくださいあ　ハイもうちょっとまってください a HAI mou chotto matte kudasai Ah, yes, please wait a little longer.

7 すぐそっち行きますすぐそっちいきます sugu socchi ikimasu I’ll be right there.

8 えっと… etto... Um...

9 ええ大丈夫ですええだいじょうぶです ee daijoubu desu Yes, it’s fine.

10 そうですね… sou desu ne... That’s right...

11 強い"個性"を持つ子にありがちな倒錯ですよつよい"こせい"をもつこにありがちなとうさくですよ tsuyoi “kosei” wo motsu ko niarigachi na tousaku desu yo It’s a perversion common to children who have strong quirks.

12 この社会ではよくあることですこのしゃかいではよくあることです kono shakai de wa yoku aru koto desu It’s a thing that happens often in this society.

13 正して消していきましょうただしてけしていきましょう tadashite keshite ikimashou Let’s go correct and erase it.

1 ヒミコちゃんの顔コワーイ！ヒミコちゃんのかおコワーイ！ HIMIKO-chan no kao KOWAAI! Himiko-chan’s face is scaaary!

2 やめなさい‼︎何をしてるのやめなさい‼︎なにをしてるの yamenasai!! nani wo shiteru no Stop it!! What are you doing?

3 まるでーー異常者だ！まるでーーいじょうしゃだ！ maru de--ijousha da! It’s like--you’re a deviant! (Note: I feel obligated to point out that the word for “deviant” also works as a word for “pervert.”)

4 普通しなさい！ふつうしなさい！ futsuu shinasai! Be normal!

5 あの子ぜんぜん話合わないんだもんあのこぜんぜんはなしあわないんだもん ano ko zenzen hanashiawanainda mon That kid just doesn’t speak on the same wavelength [as us].

1 被身子‼︎ ヒミコ‼︎ HIMIKO!! Himiko!!

2 友だちの血を吸ったって⁉︎ ともだちのちをすったって⁉︎ tomodachi no chi wo sutta tte!? You sucked your friend’s blood!?

3 違うのちがうの chigau no No, it’s different.

4 怪我してたからちうちうしたのけがしてたからちうちうしたの kega shiteta kara chiuchiu shita no I kissed it because they were injured. (Note: The onomatopoeia here for “kissed” also sounds like the one for “sucked.”)

5 普通じゃない‼︎ ふつうじゃない‼︎ futsuu ja nai!! That’s not normal!!

6 まともになりたくないのか⁉︎ matomo ni naritakunai no ka!? Don’t you want to be normal!? (Note: This word for “normal” also means “decent, upstanding.”)

7 パパ　ママ PAPA MAMA Papa, Mama.

8 わからないの　私わからないのわからないの　わたしわからないの wakaranai no watashi wakaranai no Don’t understand, I don’t understand.

9 みんな好きなノになるのガマンしてるの？みんなすきなノになるのガマンしてるの？ minna suki na NO ni naru no GAMAN shiteru no? Is everyone restraining how they want to become the ones they like?

10 なんでみんな nande minna Why won’t everyone

11 ちうちうしないの？ chiuchiu shinai no? kiss? (Note: Again, this is that same onomatopoeia that means both “kiss” and “suck.”)

12 ああ…‼︎ aa...!! Aah...!!

13 あ〜〜〜〜〜〜〜 a~~~~~~~ Aaaaaaaaah!

14 違うんだこれちがうんだこれ chigaunda kore This is so wrong.

15 もう根っこが！もうねっこが！ mou nekko ga! Her core is already--! (Note: This “core” word means literally “roots,” and it’s the same word Katsuki uses to describe what Izuku is like “at his core” in chapter 284. I also can’t remember where but I’m pretty sure someone used the same word to describe Tomura at some point this arc. Maybe Dabi too.)

16-17 人間じゃない子産んじゃった！にんげんじゃないこうんじゃった！ ningen ja nai ko unjatta! We went and gave birth to a child that isn’t human!

1 だからあなたはフタをした dakara anata wa FUTA wo shita “That’s why you covered it up.”

2 抑圧し仮面をつくったよくあつしかめんをつくった yokuatsu shi kamen wo tsukutta “You suppressed [yourself] and made a mask.”

3 自分じゃない誰かになったじぶんじゃないだれかになった jibun ja nai dare ka ni natta “You became someone other than yourself.”

1 ああ aa “Aagh!”

2 麗日ぁあああ‼︎ うららかぁあああ‼︎ Urarakaaaaa!! “Urarakaaaaa!!“

3 梅雨ちゃん！つゆちゃん！ Tsuyu-chan! “Tsuyu-chan!“

1 ケロ！ KERO! “Ribbit!”

2 違うそっちじゃなちがうそっちじゃな chigau socchi ja na “No, not over there!”

3 え e “Eh?”

4 ゲゴッ GEGO “Ribbi-cough!”

5 トガだ！ TOGA da! “That’s Toga!”

6-7 ヒーローは殲滅するヒーローはせんめつする HIIROO wa senmetsu suru “Annihilate the heroes!”

8 飛び散った血を分身が摂取してるんだ！とびちったちをぶんしんがせっしゅしてるんだ！ tobichitta chi wo bunshin ga sesshu shiterunda! “The doppelgangers are ingesting the blood that’s splattering everywhere!”

1 ウチまで… UCHI made... “Even me...”

2 この量に抗うには… このりょうにあらがうには… kono ryou ni aragau ni wa... “To oppose these numbers...”

3 全員一丸となってのチームアップが不可欠だった…！ぜんいんいちがんとなってのチームアップがふかけつだった…！ zen’in ichigan to natte no CHIIMUAPPU ga fukaketsu datta...! “it was essential for everyone to team up all together...!”

4 散らされ…欺かれるのであれば最早… ちらされ…あざむかれるのであればもはや… chirasare...azamukareru node areba mohaya... “We’ll be scattered...and deceived, so the quickest way...“

5 うわああああ‼︎ uwaaaaa!! “Waaaaah!!”

6 最早もはや mohaya The quickest way

7 止める術は… とめるすべは… tomeru sube wa... to stop her is...

1 そいつを殺せそいつをころせ soitsu wo korose Kill him!

2 殲せん sen Anni-

3 滅めつ metsu -hilate!

4 トガ…ヒミコちゃん…聞いてっトガ…ヒミコちゃん…きいてっ！ TOGA...HIMIKO-chan...kiite! “Toga...Himiko-chan...listen!”

5-6 私は…！"ルール"を守ることが… わたしは…！"ルール"をまもることが… watashi wa...! “RUURU” wo mamoru koto ga... “I...! [Thought that] following the rules...”

7 ヒーローだと思ってた…‼︎外れる事が…敵だと思ってた…！ヒーローだとおもってた…‼︎はずれることが…ヴィランだとおもってた…！ HIIROO da to omotteta...!! hazureru koto ga...VIRAN da to omotteta...! “I thought that’s what a hero is...!! I thought that deviating [from them]...is what a villain is...!”

8 でもねトガヒミコちゃん demo ne TOGA HIMIKO-chan “But you know, Himiko Toga-chan,”

9 私のお友だちは今わたしのおともだちはいま watashi no otomodachi wa ima “my friend right now,”

10 そんなルールより何よりそんなルールよりなにより sonna RUURU yori nani yori “more than the rules, more than anything,”

1-2 あなたと向き合おうとしてるあなたとむきあおうとしてる anata to mukiaou to shiteru “is trying to face you.” (Note: The word here literally means “to face, oppose, face off with, confront,” but the meaning implied here is that this confrontation is not a merely physical battle but an attempt to address Toga philosophically.)

3 それはただ殲滅するよりそれはただせんめつするより sore wa tada senmetsu suru yori “Rather than just annihilating you,”

4 ただ確保するよりただかくほするより tada kakuho suru yori “rather than securing you,”

5 困難な道だと思うこんなんなみちだとおもう konnan na michi da to omou “I think it’s the more difficult path.”

6 だから dakara “So,”

7 お茶子ちゃんのことおちゃこちゃんのこと Ochako-chan no koto “about Ochako-chan,”

8 遅くなったかもしれないけれどおそくなったかもしれないけれど osokunatta kamo shirenai kedo “maybe she was late, but”

9 少しでいいから…話を聞いて！すこしでいいから…はなしをきいて！ sukoshi de ii kara...hanashi wo kiite! “just a little is fine...listen to what she has to say!”

1 構造が違う‼︎ こうぞうがちがう‼︎ kouzou ga chigau!! Literal: “The structure is different!!” Contextual: “We’re built differently!!”

2 おまえ達が言う祝福も喜びもおまえたちがいうしゅくふくもよろこびも omaetachi ga iu shukufuku mo yorokobi mo “The blessings and joy you all speak of,”

1 私は何も感じない！わたしはなにもかんじない！ watashi wa nani mo kanjinai! “I feel none of them!”

2-3 そっちの尺度で私を可哀想な人間にするな‼︎ そっちのルールでわたしをかわいそうなにんげんにするな‼︎ socchi no RUURU (kanji: shakudo) de watashi wo kawaisou na ningen ni suruna!! “Don’t make me a pitiable person by those rules (read as: standards)!!” (Note: In an incredibly well-timed turn of events, this ask has become extremely relevant. The sentence above, in content and structure, resembles Twice’s narration directed at Hawks in chapter 266.)

4 そういやトガちゃんって souiya Toga-chan tte “Come to think of it, Toga-chan,”

5 敵名つけねえの？ヴィランめいつけねえの？ VIRAN-mei tsukenee no? “can’t you [use] a villain name?”

tagline 蘇る記憶…‼︎ よみがるきおく…‼︎ yomigaeru kioku...!! A memory revives...!!

#my hero academia leak translations #mha 392 #bnha 392 #my hero academia manga spoilers #final showdown spoilers #himiko toga #thinly-veiled allegories for direct expressions of affection #and how japan is so painfully allergic to them #the fact that toga's affection was so repulsive to society #that society so utterly failed to teach her anything about consent #THE MESSY WEB HATH BEEN WOVEN SO INTRICATELY #THAT IS _SOME SHIT_ MY DUDES

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aashi-heartfilia · 10 months

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Toga Himiko: My Hero Academia

#bnha toga #toga #himiko toga #my hero academia himiko #bnha himiko #toga himiko #mha himiko #ochako x himiko #ochatoga #togachaco #togachako #bnha 392 #bnha 393 #bnha 394 #bnha anime

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transhawks · 10 months

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I think this Toga battle is everything and I love her gay ass. That being said I think her expression of love being forbidden because of society makes for a realllly bad LGBT allegory just because her expression of love is harmful in every possible way. It’s rightfully wrong, though still tragic in the sense that she was born that way. She’s still really cool and interesting though, and we can enjoy her from afar because she’s fictional

Shit, so I want to disagree but it'll require an essay I'm already planning to write. So I'll throw out some points.

Toga's love is wrong in two aspects - one, I firmly believe Toga's love is an issue with self-hatred and her thinking she has to live as someone else to be loved. So it's a love born of denying and being denied self-love.

The other aspect is consent. Jokes aside, I've said for years Toga's story reads like a queer allegory to me because a really good "solution" to her issues could have been repressing for three more years and then, as an adult, entering consensual kink- relationships surrounding blood drinking. I know there's a sanguinarian community in Japan, and Toga would have an easy time, as a conventionally attractive girl, finding partners. But otherwise, Toga's so used to rejection for her wants that she has not even gone about asking, expecting the answer will be no.

To that point, that's an incredibly queer feeling. There's an immense amount of fear being queer and attracted to people of the same sex/gender because of the violence following some deviations. I don't have links on hand but I know there's studies done about how often women fear expressing homosexual attraction towards other women due to not wanting to come off as predators. Toga's quirks becomes an allegory for "repressing an interest you know will be rejected as deviant no matter what".

It's not just "queerness" in the wlw/sexual orientation way. Again, this is a Japanese story for Japanese story. Toga's way of expressing herself is way too forward in a society where they just say "like" to get out of saying "love" and even that is too forward because it involves directly addressing a person in a language where people avoid "you" language if they can.

It's not just the way she wants, it's the way she wants at all. Toga is a nail that sticks out in so many ways and cannot bend to society. The best (realistic) solution would have likely been waiting a few years and finding her own community but this then verges on the inability of queer youth to imagine futures for themselves (see the concept of queer temporality). If you don't see a future where you are allow the possibility of happiness, can you imagine one? Can you swallow the misery and wait it out? Many people cannot. Like I said, this is a very layered, complex topic. It deserves a serious essay from me. I'll try to write it.

#bnha 392 #asks #himiko toga #toga #bnha spoilers #meta

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