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kirain · 26 days
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Fuck Wulbren Bongle
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No, because literally everyone approves if you call Wulbren a prick. Even Wyll approves. Wyll, who hates nearly every choice of unnecessary confrontation. He sees eye to eye with Astarion on this decision, too. Divided by pretty much everything, united in their hatred for Wulbren. That selfish little wannabe terrorist has truly brought the fanbase together in ways I don't think any of us expected. People sympathise with Gortash, Orin, Ketheric—hell, I've even seen people sympathise with Cazador when they learn about his backstory—but one thing we all agree on is that Wulbren needs to be flung into a lava pit. Fuck him. Oh, and this bitch.
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Nuke them both from orbit.
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commander-krios · 3 months
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Bonus BG3 Text Post (fuck wulbren)
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mossy-rock-in-a-field · 2 months
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My Mother Plays Baldur's Gate: Part 5
Summary: My retired mom is having me play Baldur's Gate 3 on her behalf because she has trouble using controllers/keyboards but still wants to "smooch the wizard boy." She is playing a neutral chaotic good wood elf druid; this is a detailed account of her crimes. Part 1 & 2 Part 3 Part 4
Sorry for the long break! Life got super busy for a second there. We're about 30-40% of the way through Act 3, and we finished up some companion quest lines and started making some plans to kill Gortash and Orin.
Here's what happened during yesterday's game session:
Scratch gave us an iron bowl at camp. My mom assumed this was somehow plot relevant, so she had me carry it around everywhere because "we might need it." I am not allowed to sell the bowl. She is a druid and her carrying capacity is still garbage. I suffer.
She LOVES Gale’s new kiss animations. I  tasked with smooching him before we leave camp every single time. Even if I just stop by to switch out a party member, I still have to kiss him goodbye. (And pet the animals, obviously.)
We accidentally blew up Volo outside the Steel Watch foundry with a poorly-placed Ice Storm that nicked the edge of the explosive barrels. His corpse was charred and unrecognizable, and my mom was distraught. She demanded to know why I blew him up, so I reminded her that casting Ice Storm was HER idea. We saved him the second time.
Cazador accidentally won his fight several times because we kept rolling dogshit initiative and got zapped by status effects before we could move an inch. The first time Astarion got turned to paste in the ritual, my mom nearly leapt out of her seat. (“RELOAD RIGHT NOW, HONEY.”) We killed Cazador on the fifth attempt, the rotten bastard.
My mom was locked in for the Iron Throne mission. The turn limit really freaked her out, and she kept second-guessing my choices every time I made a move because she was so nervous I was wasting time. I had to gently remind her that I’ve done this mission literally dozens of times. (We got everyone out with a whole turn to spare. Pfffft.)
Got the wavemother robe. I put it on Gale because I thought my mom would love it, but she was actually horrified because he “might catch a cold.” She robe is now somewhere in the camp stash next to all the spoons, iron tongs, and rags. It will probably never be found again. 
Saved the Gondians, and Mom now rides the “fuck Wulbren Bongle” hate train. Shout-out to my boy Barcus!
After watching the conclusion of The Pale Elf quest line (Astarion did NOT ascend, thank you), my mom quietly said, “I hope that actor knows how perfect he is as Astarion. What a wonderful man.” I had the pleasure of informing her that Neil Newbon won Best Performance at the Game Awards for his role. Congrats Neil Newbon, my mom is super proud of you!
Hoping to get together with my mom again soon and make some more progress through Act III. She told me to thank you for all your kind words of support!
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glysreia · 3 months
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Second (and last) part of the Valentine's Day cards!
As with the other post, feel free to print those out for personal use~
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bg3scenarios · 2 months
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Barcus: …And that’s what happened
Tav: Well, I never met him
Tav: But me and my friends would've killed Wulbren Bongle with hammers I can tell you that much
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fresh-bungle · 30 days
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Might draw this later idk
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eliseamann · 2 months
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Dialog options I wish I had in bg3 - Part 5 „Justice for Barcus“
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I was so happy when I was able to save everybody from moonrise towers and then Wulbren ruined it completly for me!
Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4
Transcript:
Wulbren: „I said GO HOME!“
Umdòmiel/Tav: „If you don‘t want him, I‘ll take him.“
Barcus joined the Party
Karlach: „You have some new friends now, soldier!“
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dirtybg3confessions · 5 months
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Confession: I want to make Raphael, Gortash, and Wulbren cry by turning them down. I want them to BEG for my attention, i don't know where this came from.
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sleepycrawly · 2 months
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wulbren bongle is my mortal enemy.
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kirain · 2 months
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Barcus FAINTS?! 😢
He faints no matter what you say to him, and he also blames himself for Wulbren's death.
Poor little guy. I thought killing Wulbren would be the better path, but boy did I reload fast. If you don't save him, Barcus cries and falls into a deep depression, and he doesn't speak with you again either. He only responds with "hmm" when you ask to trade. Even if you're nice and try to comfort him, he simply gives you the Brilliant Retort and wallows in his sorrow.
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When I first met Wulbren I thought the same thing, but I quickly changed my mind during our second conversation; when he called Barcus "moss that clings to stone". If Wulbren actually cared and wanted to keep his friend safe, it would make sense for him to be cold to his face, but he also bad-mouths Barcus behind his back. There's no logical reason for that. In fact, it's a detriment. He actively tries to convince us Barcus is an annoyance, but if he truly cared, he'd want him to have some allies looking out for him, not enemies who'd write him off at the first sign of trouble.
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Then there's the matter of the pendant. Barcus tells us he found it in the slums of Baldur's Gate, around some thug's neck, speckled with blood. But when we meet Wulbren, he doesn't have any injuries, and he never asks about the pendant at any point. In fact, when we find him in Moonrise, he doesn't even ask if Barcus is safe, he just says he's surprised he "had the stones" to leave the city. This leads me to believe he hawked the pendant for safe passage out of Baldur's Gate, and that he doesn't care about Barcus at all. If my friend came looking for me in one of the most dangerous places on earth, I think I'd show a little concern.
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No, but I do think they were close at one point. In the Decrepit Village in the Underdark, you can find Wulbren's childhood diary, in which he expresses his desire to see Barcus again someday. Barcus left for the surface first, but I think he felt guilty about it. I also think he might've felt more for Wulbren than Wulbren felt for him, but that love was unrequited. As he grew older, Wulbren became more and more radicalized, to the point that he might've even come to resent Barcus. I don't have any evidence for that, but Barcus does tell us he's "quite popular" in Baldur's Gate. Popular, happy, successful, respected—everything the Ironhand Gnomes aren't. Everything Wulbren isn't.
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Of course, that just makes everything all the more heartbreaking. Wulbren isn't the same person Barcus remembers, but he can't see past his love for him. At least not until Act 3, when Wulbren takes his "mission" too far. He's angry, racist, and desperate for validation; willing to massacre an entire group of ex-slaves for no reason other than revenge. I do sympathise with his plight, especially when you consider that gnomes are often seen as lesser, but Wulbren hates other gnomes and even threatens to kill Barcus when he tries to talk him down. Sadly, Wulbren isn't a good person, and I'm proud of Barcus for standing up to him.
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moonmunson · 4 months
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starting a "justice for barcus wroot" campaign bc he is so in love with wulbren and wulbren is too angry and full of hatred towards the gondians to see it
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fangsandfeels · 3 months
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It's probably a very unpopular opinion, but initially, I liked Wulbren when I encountered him in the game. And how couldn't I? The lad greets us with an escape plan up his sleeve and that plan includes breaking the tieflings out! A true blessing for any Tav who never intended to cooperate with the Absolute and got a headache from thinking how they would get out all of the prisoners. What Wulbren did was badass and spoke a lot about his principles and priorities.
Now, a less-then-lukewarm reunion with Barcus was something I expected because nothing could be that easy, and from what we've seen, Philomena too abandoned her girlfriend for The Idea without even bothering to break up with her. So, at that point, I had a reason to suspect that either Wulbren was a dick or he tried to keep Barcus away from whatever he was brewing so he won't get caught in the fallout (he has a propensity for getting himself in trouble, after all).
But come Act 3...
...and Wulbren is presented as an irrational, vengeful prick who refuses to look deeper into the matter. We can follow his vision and blow up the Steel Foundry without looking into it, inadvertently causing more destruction, or going against him.
However, after what I learned thanks to @y-rhywbeth2 here (hope you don't mind me tagging you) is that the reason for Wulbren's innate distaste for Gondians may lie even deeper than "they worked with the tyrant, they must pay".
Wulbren's clan follows Gaerdal Ironhand, the lawful good gnome deity. His followers are militaristic and devoted, committed to protecting the gnome community and dealing with internal and external threats.
The best defense is unswerving vigilance. Serve Gaerdal with absolute dedication and devotion. Defend and protect gnome communities against all invaders both obvious and hidden. Never cease to hone the skills of war, and take the opportunity of relative peace to pass such talents on to gnomes at large.
While Gond isn't mentioned as Gaerdal's adversary, their dogmas contradict each other. Despite being a patron of inventors and craftsmen, Gond is so dedicated to creating inventions ("wonders") and spreading them that he has no concern for safety or consequence. Gond also welcomes all alignments and approves of his followers forcing their way into power, subtly controlling leaders and destroying any opposition, so they could promote their inventions and creations. Accumulation of power and personal wealth is smiled upon.
So, Gaerdal Ironhand is all about caring for the community and taking any measures necessary to protect it - even if such threat comes from fellow gnomes, Gaedral's followers are supposed to undertake the grim duty of being the judges and doing what's necessary. If Wulbren is a dedicated follower of Gaedral, it's understandable why he has so much contempt for the Gondians: they are careless, irresponsible, so obsessed with the "can it be done?" they forget about "should it be done?" - and look at where it got them. Play stupid games, and win stupid prizes.
Of course, he would take any accusations of being too harsh as an insult - especially given that he literally lost his fellow clanspeople to protect the city.
Given all that, I wish there could have been a more complex resolution. Showing Wulbren the door minimizes the fact that he wasn't just obsessed with killing the Gondians, but also was ready to die for his people (he didn't expect anyone to save him and he was planning on saving himself and others). He organized a guerilla movement that was effective enough for Gortash to put him on the Wanted list. If Gondians started working with Gortash of their own volition (I didn't explore the game enough to find any tangible proof or content that debunks this theory), but then found themselves shackled and enslaved, that would add to his bitterness. Being treated as a local madman for fighting the threat everybody else is idiotically blind to tooth and nail affects you. Heavily. Bitterness and spite become part and parcel of your struggle and when someone tries to tell you you're being unreasonable or not kind, you snap at them - what do they know?
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean that Wulbren and Barcus should kiss and make up.
But having the option to point out to Wulbren that Barcus has been actually upholding Ironhand's ideals all this time and went to great lengths to do the right thing; make him finally acknowledge and respect his friend would have been nice.
Also, by admitting that Barcus was right, Wulbren could have seen where he was wrong or unable to see things differently - which would have prompted him to put his trust in Barcus even if he still instinctually wants to oppose and cuss him out for being so naively tolerant.
Because, I think Barcus deserves some recognition from Wulbren - even if they don't remain friends, going simply to colleagues (mostly because Barcus decides he did enough and it's time for him to stop running after Wulbren, especially now that he is safe). And also, because the entire Ironhand clan story needs more polishing, given that its premise in Act 1-2 was so interesting.
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thelikesoffinn · 4 months
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My god, everytime I'm shocked at how ungrateful a cunt Wulbren actually is.
Barcus went to hell and beyond for his sorry arse and he can't even say "thanks"? Little racist shit. Shoulda kicked his arse into the Shadow Curse when I had the chance.
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waylaid-by-enemies · 14 days
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As one of the great minds of our fandom once helped me to understand, Wulbren deserves the same time and energy we give to any other imperfect and altogether less well-intentioned character in this franchise…
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oathbreakinghearts · 2 months
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kitthenameless · 2 months
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Spoilers for Wulbren and Barcus in Act 3.
Barcus just kicked Wulbren out of the city. Wulbren then threatened to literally murder him, so I shot Wulbren with an arrow, and now Barcus is trying to fight me?? Barcus, buddy, you gotta let Wulbren go. I'm trying to save your life here. Plus, let's be realistic for a moment. You're standing in the middle of ten of us (Party Limits Begone) and four Gondians, you have 20 HP, I don't think you're gonna win this fight.
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